8/27 gail

[gail milroy]

Hi

Will you please suggest a time to sit along the shore and
watch the migration of butterflies on their way south.

Thanks.    Gail



>From: Connecticut Butterfly Assoc Lepidoptera List 
><ctleps-l at lists.yale.edu>
>To: Connecticut Butterfly Assoc Lepidoptera List <ctleps-l at lists.yale.edu>
>Subject: digest 1273
>Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:01:09 EDT
>
>
>			    CTLEPS-L Digest 1273
>
>Topics covered in this issue include:
>
>   1) Monarchs, etc.
>	by ButterflyPR at comcast.net
>   2) Pokeweed and Lepidoptera
>	by janine.bujalski at worldnet.att.net
>   3) RE: Pokeweed and Lepidoptera
>	by jhimmel at comcast.net


>From: ButterflyPR at comcast.net
>To: CTLEPS-L at lists.yale.edu (CT LEPS)
>Subject: Monarchs, etc.
>Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 16:54:21 +0000
>Message-Id: 
><082620071654.5842.46D1B03D000DFF26000016D22200734076ADAF9704009D0A9B9B9ABD at comcast.net>
>
>Yesterday I visited my mother in Westport.  Loads of Cabbage Whites, but 
>also 2-3 Red Admirals (at least one VERY worn), one Lady (didn't get a 
>close look), 3-4 adult Monarchs, 4 Monarch eggs (brought two home), and a 
>Tiger Swallowtail.
>
>Today, visited Haddam Meadows to gather milkweed for my 20+ caterpillars.  
>Saw a few Cabbage Whites, one Monarch, with a curled wing, nectaring on red 
>clover, one Peck's Skipper, about 4 early instar Monarch caterpillars, and 
>at least 20 eggs, several of which I accidentally brought home, along with 
>one hatchling.  So the Monarchs are still laying--perhaps this generation 
>will make it to Mexico.
>
>Which reminds me--more reminders will be forthcoming, but don't forget to 
>mark your calendars for the CBA Monarch Tagging at Hammonasset on Saturday 
>September 15, and the Migration Festival, which will include tagging, at 
>Lighthouse Point on Sunday September 23.
>
>Diane


>Message-Id: <200708262240.l7QMeRiP012705 at quickgr.its.yale.edu>
>Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 18:39:42 -0400
>To: CTlepslist <ctleps-l at lists.yale.edu>
>From: Janine Bujalski <janine.bujalski at worldnet.att.net>
>Subject: Pokeweed and Lepidoptera
>Mime-Version: 1.0
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
>
>
>The Long Story cut Short:
>There is a miniforest of Pokeweed growing in the backyard (in
>Hamden).  My first thought was I need to get rid of it.  Why I'm
>posting here is the Wikipedia entry re: Pokeweed says "Pokeweeds are
>used as food plants by the larvae of some Lepidoptera species
>including Giant Leopard Moth."  I don't know much about the Giant
>Leopard Moth.  Is there a reason to keep some of these plants in the
>yard?  Thanks in advance.
>
>Janine
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>The Long Story:
>A few years ago we cut down a number of trees in the yard and in
>their place a mini-forest of pokeweed has sprouted up. We've been
>preoccupied with other issues for a couple of years and during this
>time of neglect, this miniforest has become well established (some of
>it with woody stems and bush like) and is apparently invasive or at
>best prolific.
>
>I went to Science Plant Day at Lockwood Farm.  Got some unrelated
>advice mailed to me about the Leaf Miners on the Columbine
>plant.  (The columbine skipper falls into the category of diseases
>caused by nematodes, if I read the info correctly.)  There was info
>about nonchemical means to control the leafminers.  So that was good.
>
>Talked to the Weed folks at Science Plant Day.  They suggested using
>RoundUp. (I'd rather not.)  As we were talking, they spoke about the
>edible and poisonous parts of Poke Weed and a variety of other uses
>of the various parts of the plant.  As I was driving away I
>remembered a song called Poke Salad Annie.  Interesting.
>
>Before I left, I spoke with the NOFA folks and they suggested pulling
>all the Pokeweed plants up by the roots.   I liked that idea but
>there's way too much of it, way too established, given the time and
>energy available.
>
>Went to Wikipedia as a starting point from a different
>direction.  Found what is mentioned in the short of the long of it above.
>
>Spoke to my nephew who's about to go off to college (Middlebury) who
>worked parttime at Agway while he was in high school.  He suggested
>that they had a product that he thought was organic that we could
>use, but he couldn't remember the name. After doing a web search. I
>think he's referring to "BurnOut Weed Killer" -- basically acidic
>lemon and vinegar.
>
>My goals:  The pokeweed is taking over sections of the yard.  I'd
>like to either totally remove it or get it under control using
>relatively safe methods -- ie can I grow vegetables, safe to eat, in
>that same soil afterwards?
>
>My question for this forum:  As a butterfly (and secondarily moth)
>person,  is there a reason to keep some of these plants in my yard?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>Janine
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


>From: <jhimmel at comcast.net>
>To: "CTlepslist" <ctleps-l at lists.yale.edu>
>Subject: RE: Pokeweed and Lepidoptera
>Date: Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:18:29 -0400
>Message-ID: <JFELJJILCLMFAAPONDOKGEBIDLAA.jhimmel at comcast.net>
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>Bluebirds love them, but if you don't have bluebirds....
>
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>John Himmelman
>Killingworth, CT
>jhimmel at comcast.net
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>
>
>Visit my websites at:
>   www.johnhimmelman.com
>   www.connecticutmoths.com
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>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-ctleps-l at lists.yale.edu
>[mailto:owner-ctleps-l at lists.yale.edu]On Behalf Of Janine Bujalski
>Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 6:40 PM
>To: CTlepslist
>Subject: Pokeweed and Lepidoptera
>
>
>
>The Long Story cut Short:
>There is a miniforest of Pokeweed growing in the backyard (in
>Hamden).  My first thought was I need to get rid of it.  Why I'm
>posting here is the Wikipedia entry re: Pokeweed says "Pokeweeds are
>used as food plants by the larvae of some Lepidoptera species
>including Giant Leopard Moth."  I don't know much about the Giant
>Leopard Moth.  Is there a reason to keep some of these plants in the
>yard?  Thanks in advance.
>
>Janine
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>The Long Story:
>A few years ago we cut down a number of trees in the yard and in
>their place a mini-forest of pokeweed has sprouted up. We've been
>preoccupied with other issues for a couple of years and during this
>time of neglect, this miniforest has become well established (some of
>it with woody stems and bush like) and is apparently invasive or at
>best prolific.
>
>I went to Science Plant Day at Lockwood Farm.  Got some unrelated
>advice mailed to me about the Leaf Miners on the Columbine
>plant.  (The columbine skipper falls into the category of diseases
>caused by nematodes, if I read the info correctly.)  There was info
>about nonchemical means to control the leafminers.  So that was good.
>
>Talked to the Weed folks at Science Plant Day.  They suggested using
>RoundUp. (I'd rather not.)  As we were talking, they spoke about the
>edible and poisonous parts of Poke Weed and a variety of other uses
>of the various parts of the plant.  As I was driving away I
>remembered a song called Poke Salad Annie.  Interesting.
>
>Before I left, I spoke with the NOFA folks and they suggested pulling
>all the Pokeweed plants up by the roots.   I liked that idea but
>there's way too much of it, way too established, given the time and
>energy available.
>
>Went to Wikipedia as a starting point from a different
>direction.  Found what is mentioned in the short of the long of it above.
>
>Spoke to my nephew who's about to go off to college (Middlebury) who
>worked parttime at Agway while he was in high school.  He suggested
>that they had a product that he thought was organic that we could
>use, but he couldn't remember the name. After doing a web search. I
>think he's referring to "BurnOut Weed Killer" -- basically acidic
>lemon and vinegar.
>
>My goals:  The pokeweed is taking over sections of the yard.  I'd
>like to either totally remove it or get it under control using
>relatively safe methods -- ie can I grow vegetables, safe to eat, in
>that same soil afterwards?
>
>My question for this forum:  As a butterfly (and secondarily moth)
>person,  is there a reason to keep some of these plants in my yard?
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>Janine
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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