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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They _<i><span style='font-style:italic'>should</span></i>_
be but they aren’t. Particularly not when the mainstream press
consistently refer to them all as japanimation and the public face of anime in </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>North America</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> are 30+ year old cosplayers.
The otaku movement and the fansubbers have had a huge impact in
generating a niche audience for a lot of great animation from </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Japan</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> but the public face of
that community now has an awful lot to do with the glass ceiling anime releases
have. Nobody in the list I mentioned, or any other worthwhile directors,
will break through in </span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>North America</span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> in any meaningful way as long as the media and the masses equate
their work with Pokemon and cosplay. It’ll never happen.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’d kind of like to see a Kieslowski
attempt at Commando, though. That’d be fun.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Todd.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> tetsuwan@comcast.net
[mailto:tetsuwan@comcast.net] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, September 28, 2006
2:26 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: Anime and genre</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>The "anime" tag only does a disservice to the directors you
mention if the word is interpreted in its Western common parlance. "Anime"
really value neutral, however, it has come to mean a variety of things to a
variety of people. A feature length film is a feature length film, animated or
not. Gatekeepers (critics, web masters ;)) are able, or should be, to make
distinctions between sen to chihiro and Pokemon as well as they are able to
make distinctions between Trois Coleurs and Commando.</span></font></p>
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12.0pt'>--<br>
Mark <br>
http://dorknation.wordpress.com</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>-------------- Original message -------------- <br>
From: "Todd Brown" <todd@twitchfilm.com> <br>
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> I think there are certainly distinctions within anime and a lot that <br>
> certainly doesn't stand up to cinema standards - though you could say the <br>
> exact same thing about a huge number of films - but there are also a
growing <br>
> number of animation directors in Japan who are increasingly ill-served by <br>
> having the anime tag applied. Mamoru Oshii, Satoshi Kon, Hayao Miyazaki, <br>
> Masaaki Yuasa among others are all legitimate auteurs in their own right
who <br>
> are not accorded the respect they deserve because they are forced into the
<br>
> otaku ghetto. <br>
> <br>
> Todd. <br>
> <br>
> > -----Original Message----- <br>
> > From: Brian Ruh [mailto:brianruh@yahoo.com] <br>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2006 9:28 AM <br>
&! gt; > ; To: KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu <br>
> > Subject: Anime and genre <br>
> > <br>
> > --- Lewis Cook <LCOQC@EARTHLINK.NET>wrote: <br>
> > > <br>
> > > 1. No idea how others on the list think about this - I don't
have an <br>
> > > interest in theoretical debates about genre per se - but I don't
<br>
> > > consider anime to be of the same basic genre as 'movies.' <br>
> > <br>
> > I know that you say above that you're not interested in genre
debates, <br>
> > but I just have to ask -- why is "anime" separated from
"movies" in <br>
> > your estimation? (Of course, not all anime is experienced in a cinema
<br>
> > setting, so that might be one good reason.) And do you consider anime
<br>
> > to be a genre? <br>
> > <br>
> > I'm curious about such perceptions of anime and how it's thought
about <br>
> > and categorized. I'm interested to hear what others might think about
<br>
> ! > th is as well. <br>
> > <br>
> > == Brian <br>
> > <br>
> > Brian's Essential Reading: <br>
> > Book: http://www.oshiibook.com <br>
> > Research: http://www.animeresearch.com <br>
> > <br>
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> <br>
> </span></font></p>
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