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there's a bunch I've seen,<br>
here's one from a nice group<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blog.universalsubtitles.org/2010/04/13/subtitles-and-captions-for-every-video-on-the-web/">http://blog.universalsubtitles.org/2010/04/13/subtitles-and-captions-for-every-video-on-the-web/</a><br>
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On 12/10/2010 2:39 PM, Mark Nornes wrote:
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widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; font-size: medium;">Of course,
it's a non-trivial issue, because it points us to larger
strategies. We need more comm-types on KineJapan to guide us
here. But doesn't John's experience indicate that their
thinking is exclusively local to begin with? Where other large
media companies in other parts of the world seem to be
offering content online to hook people for now, while the
strategies for extracting profit work themselves out. It just
feels like there's no long range strategy that recognizes the
way media distribution need not be territorialized so
narrowly/nationally. It's why the subs thing came up, too.?<br
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<div>Speaking of subs, did anyone hear the story on NPR where some
online software allows thousands of people to sub a film
simultaneously, wiki style? I just caught the very end, but it
sounded amazing.</div>
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<div>On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:58 AM, Junkerman John wrote:</div>
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I was going to make the same point, that NHK doesn't have
worldwide rights for some of the material in their programs.
I recently worked on an English-language version of an NHK
program where all the music had to be swapped out for public
domain music, and another (a very powerful program about the
drone war in Pakistan that really should be seen in the US)
that will only be submitted to competitions because NHK
didn't license worldwide rights to the footage.?
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<div>On Dec 10, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Adrian Wood wrote:</div>
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think we should understand NHK?s respect for 3<sup>rd</sup><span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span>party
rights which prevent their use of material
outside Japan.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Generally
it is this issue that limits exploitation.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Adrian
Wood<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri,sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Inkulla
Media<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma,sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
Tahoma,sans-serif;"><span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owner-KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">owner-KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owner-KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">mailto:owner-KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a>]<span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span><b>On
Behalf Of<span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span></b>Eija
Niskanen<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span>10
December 2010 00:55<br>
<b>To:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu">KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b><span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span>Re:
NHK on Youtube<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;"><o:p>?</o:p></div>
<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">Which
makes it virtually impossible to use Japanese
DVDs for teaching...and makes the teacher teach
rather Asian cinema than Japanese cinema - after
all, it is easy to find Hong Kong, Korean etc.
films with English subs.?<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size:
12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman',serif;">So
Japanese film companies are indirectly
supporting the spread of other Asian cinema?<o:p></o:p></div>
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New Roman',serif;">Eija<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;
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Roman',serif;">On Fri, Dec 10, 2010 at
9:51 AM, Michael Kerpan <<a
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href="mailto:mekerpan@verizon.net"
style="color: blue; text-decoration:
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif;">Aren't almost all
Japanese marketing decision of
this sort stupid these days?<br>
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I've been stunned by the virtually
total disappearance of English
subs on Japanese DVDs (even
Shochiku dropped subs on Yoji
Yamada's new film -- after
including subs for almost 10 years
on new YY films).<br>
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MEK<br>
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--- On<span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span><b>Thu,
12/9/10, Mark Nornes<span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span><i><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:amnornes@umich.edu"
target="_blank"
style="color: blue;
text-decoration: underline;">amnornes@umich.edu</a>></i></b><span
class="Apple-converted-space">?</span>wrote:<o:p></o:p></div>
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From: Mark Nornes <<a
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href="mailto:amnornes@umich.edu"
target="_blank" style="color:
blue; text-decoration:
underline;">amnornes@umich.edu</a>><br>
Subject: NHK on Youtube<br>
To: "KineJapan" <<a
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href="mailto:KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu"
target="_blank" style="color:
blue; text-decoration:
underline;">KineJapan@lists.acs.ohio-state.edu</a>><br>
Date: Thursday, December 9, 2010,
10:39 PM<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm 0cm
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif;">Mark
Schilling reports on Variety
that.....<o:p></o:p></div>
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<div style="margin: 0cm
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'Times New Roman',serif;
line-height: 12.75pt;"><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Arial,sans-serif;">NHK
Enterprises, a subsid
of pubcaster NHK that
sells and acquires
programming, is
partnering with
YouTube Japan to offer
NHK programs on the
site free of charge.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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Roman',serif;
margin-bottom: 12pt;
line-height: 12.75pt;"><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Arial,sans-serif;">The
programs on offer
include popular NHK
dramas and educational
shows.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style="margin-right:
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font-family: 'Times New
Roman',serif;
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line-height: 12.75pt;"><span
style="font-size:
10.5pt; font-family:
Arial,sans-serif;">The
service, called NHK
Program Collection,
launched on Monday
with 200 uncut shows,
as well as 30
three-minute edited
highlights from
programs, with new
content to be added
regularly. It can only
be viewed on PCs in
Japan, though it may
expand to cell phones
as well.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:
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Arial,sans-serif;">Not
offering it globally
is simply stupid.<o:p></o:p></span></div>
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--<span class="Apple-converted-space">?</span><br>
Eija Niskanen<br>
Baltic Sea - Japan Film Project<br>
Kichijoji Honcho 4-12-6? ? ? ?<span
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Musashino-shi<br>
Tokyo 180-0004<o:p></o:p></div>
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