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<body class='hmmessage'><div dir='ltr'><br id="FontBreak">I think you've hit upon an interesting point, Sten.<div>Very few venues in Europe now are capable of projecting 35mm, having torn out all their projectors to be replaced with 35mm (even such an important archive as the Imperial War Museum in London no longer has the facilities to project from film), and even those places that can tend to be <span style="font-size: 12pt;">increasingly </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">discouraging programmers from showing prints (in this recent interview I did with Mirai Mizue, he mentions the struggle he had persuading Berlin Film Festival to screen his new film WONDER from 35mm: </span><a href="http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/interviews/free-anime-mizue-mirai-wizard-blobs-blocks" target="_blank" style="font-size: 12pt;">http://www.bfi.org.uk/news-opinion/sight-sound-magazine/interviews/free-anime-mizue-mirai-wizard-blobs-blocks</a><span style="font-size: 12pt;">)</span></div><div><br></div><div>But the other crucial aspect is that no Japanese studio is going to spend the money digitising films unless they actively want to promote particular directors or titles - so for example the Kinoshita retro at FilmEx a few years back seemed primarily an excuse to get this director back in the limelight again. Meanwhile Kurosawa and Ozu continue to be popular internationally, so there's an ongoing process of digitally "restoring" these works. And there was that digital restoration of JIGOKUMON a few years back which seemed motivated by the idea of getting this historically very important work back into the international eye.</div><div><br></div><div>However, two things strike me is that firstly Kadokawa don't really seem very interested in making Daiei's back catalogue available for overseas viewers, nor particularly knowledgeable about what they have. Secondly, someone whose word I would trust in the international sales wing of a major Japanese studio pointed out that under Japanese copyright law, with Mizoguchi dead now for over 50 years, his films are effectively public domain. So the money you are spending is really licensing the physical carrier medium of the films rather than the creative contents of the films themselves. If you can get hold of a print, you shouldn't have to pay Kadokawa, Kokusai Hoei, Shochiku or whoever just for licensing fees,. But if you want access a print, you will have to pay them for the print rental.</div><div><br></div><div>Now whether this is true, I can't guarantee, but it has interesting implications for what is selected for digital "restoration" to be made available for international festivals or retrospectives, therefore radically re-shaping the canon<span style="font-size: 12pt;">. If there's no money to be made from Mizoguchi's films, then no one will go to the bother of making them available in the way Shochiku did with Kinoshita's films. </span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt;">One suggestion though- you could screen from Bluray from the films Masters of Cinema have made available, and with most European cinemas only equipped with 2K projectors anyway, there would be no less quality than a DCP. In this instance, you'd be paying Eureka, I guess, for using their materials.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse:collapse;color:rgb(34, 34, 34);"><div><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);"><div><br></div><div><font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"><br></font></div></span></div><div style="font-size:13px;"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="Tahoma"><b><i><a href="http://www.creepinggarden.com/" target="_blank">The Creeping Garden</a> </i>- A Real-Life Science-Fiction Story about Slime Moulds and the People Who Work With them. </b></font><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-family:Tahoma;"><b>Currently in production, directed by Tim Grabham and Jasper Sharp. </b></span></div><div style="font-size:13px;"><font class="ecxApple-style-span" face="Tahoma"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><b style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:13px;"><i>The </i></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt;"><b style="font-style:italic;">Historical Dictionary of Japanese Cinema </b>(2011)</span><span style="font-family:Tahoma;font-size:10pt;"> </span><span class="ecxApple-style-span" style="font-family:Tahoma;">is out now from <a href="https://rowman.com/ISBN/9780810857957" target="_blank">Scarecrow Press</a></span></div><font face="Tahoma" size="2" style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size:10pt;"><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"><div><br></div></span></span><span style="font-size:13px;"><b><i>Midnight Eye - Visions of Japanese cinema</i></b><br><font class="ecxApple-style-span" size="2"><a href="http://www.midnighteye.com" target="_blank">http://www.midnighteye.com<br></a></font><br></span></font><font face="Tahoma" style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial, sans-serif;"></font></span><br><br><div><hr id="stopSpelling">Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2014 13:35:00 +0300<br>From: sten@niijanaa.net<br>To: kinejapan@lists.service.ohio-state.edu; quentin.turnour@nfsa.gov.au<br>CC: kinejapan-bounces+quentin.turnour=nfsa.gov.au@lists.service.ohio-state.edu<br>Subject: Re: [KineJapan] Holder of Mizoguchi rights<br><br><style><!--
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--></style><div id="ecxbloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);line-height:auto;">Hello all,</div><div id="ecxbloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);line-height:auto;">many thanks for your suggestions regarding the rights - Ill contact Kadokawa and Shochiku once the lineup has been verified.</div><div id="ecxbloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);line-height:auto;"><br></div><div id="ecxbloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);line-height:auto;">As to difficulties with NFC and in response to Mark and Quentin - the biggest issue lies in the fact that since most of cinemas in Europe are now digitised to DCP projection, there is a scarce of venues which can show</div><div id="ecxbloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);line-height:auto;">35mm, especially from the two-turret system as required by NFC to preserve the prints. Both print handling difficulties with platter based projection, and attractiveness of the venues (as filmotheques tend to cater to older audiences or fans) </div> <div class="ecxbloop_sign" id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960"><span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px;"></span>-- <div><div style="font-family:helvetica;line-height:normal;">Sten-Kristian Saluveer </div><div style="font-family:helvetica;line-height:normal;">Creative Director / Partner</div><div style="font-family:helvetica;line-height:normal;">Niijanaa Films</div>ph Japan + 818044345242</div><div>ph Europe +3725165242</div><div>sten@niijanaa.net</div><div>Skype: stenskype</div><div>www.niijanaa.net<br></div><span></span></div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign"><br></div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign">And of course, we all know the reluctance of Japanese distributors to digitalise the films even if there is a demand from market / fest circuit.</div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign"><br></div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign">With best wishes,</div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign">Sten</div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign"><br></div><div id="ecxbloop_sign_1401705075030056960" class="ecxbloop_sign"><span style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px;"></span>-- <br>Sten-Kristian Saluveer<br><span>Sent with Airmail</span></div> <br><p style="color:#000;">On 2 Jun 2014 at 10:12:58, Quentin Turnour (<a href="mailto:quentin.turnour@nfsa.gov.au">quentin.turnour@nfsa.gov.au</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote class="ecxclean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<font size="3" face="Arial">I probably don't want to revive
the last debate here about the NFC's openness to access requests -
the mention of their name seems to get a few amongst our community
a little itchy - but getting prints out of the Japan Foundation is
now harder than the NFC. The JF no longer typically consider
one-off print loans of their 35mm titles and access is normally
only in packages and as part of their annual funding
processes. You're only work around might be a good contact in a
local Embassy or Consulate willing to arrange a
loan.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3" face="Arial">You will find that sourcing prints from
most European archival sources (and I know there are quite a few
good sources in European archives and cinematheques) won't be cheap
either. As well Kadokawa's licensing fee (probably at least
USD600 per screening), most European archives will ask their own
access fees, with the BFI's starting at UKS100. Sadly its the
costs of doing retrospective screening business; we at the NFSA in
Australia have a few Mizoguchi prints and would also ask at least
AUD200 in addition to the licensing arrangement - with your
only work-around maybe being if you have the patronage of a FIAF
affliated archive who will allow you to waive the access fee. Also
remember that most film archives will place restrictions on how you
can project the prints. And in IHMO not a few of the continental
archives can be just as hard to contact as the NFC (or are even
harder to crack).</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3" face="Arial">Janus films have Nth American rights a
number of Mizoguchis, but are unlikely to let them out beyond the
US and Canada.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3" face="Arial">Remember also that some of Mizoguchi's
key films were produced for at least released by other companies
beside Daiei. From memory OHARU was made for Shintoho (does Kokusai
Hoei now have their rights?) whilst, UTAMARO, 47 RONIN THE
STORY OF THE LAST CHRYSANTHEMUMS and a few other titles for
Shochiku.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif"> </font><br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Best wishes</font><br>
<br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Quentin Turnour, Manager, Arc
Canberra Cinema Programs,</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">National Film and Sound Archive of
Australia,</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">quentin.turnour@nfsa.gov.au</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Fax: +61 2 6249 8159</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Ph +61 2 6248 2054</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">Mob: + 61 4 428
368908</font><br>
<font size="2" face="sans-serif">[Please note that I am often
absent Mondays]</font><br>
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<font size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif">From:
</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Rob
Smith <robixsmash@gmail.com></font><br>
<font size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif">To:
</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Japanese
Cinema Discussion Forum
<kinejapan@lists.service.ohio-state.edu>,</font><br>
<font size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif">Date:
</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">02/06/2014 04:24 PM</font><br>
<font size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif">Subject:
</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">Re:
[KineJapan] Holder of Mizoguchi rights</font><br>
<font size="1" color="#5F5F5F" face="sans-serif">Sent by:
</font><font size="1" face="sans-serif">kinejapan-bounces+quentin.turnour=nfsa.gov.au@lists.service.ohio-state.edu</font><br>
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<font size="3">The museum of the moving image in New York has a
Mizoguchi retrospective going on right now. Perhaps their
programmer might be able to help.</font>
<a href="http://www.movingimage.us/films/2014/05/02/detail/mizoguchi/" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>http://www.movingimage.us/films/2014/05/02/detail/mizoguchi/</u></font></a><BR>
<font size="3">On Jun 2, 2014 2:22 AM, "Eija Niskanen"
<</font><a href="mailto:eija@helsinkicineaasia.fi"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>eija@helsinkicineaasia.fi</u></font></a><font size="3">> wrote:</font><br>
<font size="3">Hi!<br></font><br>
<font size="3">Finnish Audio-Visual Institute (former Finnish Film
Archive) has screened several Mizoguchi classics during the past
years - I subbed some of them into Finnish). You could contact them
to ask the print sources and they might even hold a print or
two.<br></font><br>
<a href="http://www.kavi.fi/" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>www.kavi.fi</u></font></a><font size="3"><br></font><br>
<font size="3">Eija</font><br>
<font size="3"><br></font><br>
<font size="3">2014-06-02 8:47 GMT+03:00 Mark Roberts
<</font><a href="mailto:mroberts37@mail-central.com" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>mroberts37@mail-central.com</u></font></a><font size="3">>:</font><br>
<font size="3">Dear Sten,</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">Others can add more detail, but I believe most
everything in the former Daiei catalog now belongs to
Kadokawa.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">I understand your reservations about the NFC. They
no longer seem interested in working with festivals.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">Have you considered the Japan Foundation as a
source?</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">Best Regards,</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">Mark Roberts</font><br>
<font size="3">Research Fellow, UTCP</font><br>
<a href="http://utcp.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/members/data/mark_roberts/index_en.php" target="_blank"><font size="3" color="blue"><u>http://utcp.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp/members/data/mark_roberts/index_en.php</u></font></a><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<font size="3">On Jun 2, 2014, at 2:40 PM, Sten-Kristian Saluveer
(Gmail) wrote:</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">Dear Kinejapaners,</font><br>
<font size="3">I hope you'd be able to help with a small help
request.</font><br>
<font size="3">Namely, I am asked to help a colleague from the
Baltics with a small retrospective of Mizoguchi and wonder if
someone could point me to the Japanese rightsholder.</font><br>
<font size="3">As far as I remember the latter films of his were
Daiei, but I'm not sure if his catalog was transferred to Kadokawa
later.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">By any chance are there good quality prints in BFI
or other European archives as I fear dealing with NFC and their
print fees and procedures could be a bit too much for the
organizers.</font><br>
<br>
<font size="3">With many thanks in advance </font><br>
<font size="3">Sten Saluveer </font><br>
<font size="3">—<br>
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