<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks, Roger. No, I wish…<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Nothing that would indicate decisively what theatre, what year, etc. Here’s the paragraph that goes before, which mentions films from the early 20s. I might be able to look at what played at some specific theatres, should I really really choose to go down that rabbithole and can spend a LOT of time in the library via ILL…but was hoping it was at least mildly familiar to someone out there? I already posted on Domitor and asked a couple of people who research around this field of early silents/mixed media performance, and no leads...</div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-indent:.5in"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">My
brother <span style="background:lightgrey;mso-highlight:lightgrey" class="">was closely
associated with</span> Tokugawa Musei. My brother chose to follow the path of
the <i class="">benshi</i>, and he became fairly famous under the stage name Suda
Teimei.</span><sup class=""><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class=""> </span></sup><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">He worked in Tokyo until right before the
talkie era, and he chose foreign films as his specialty, when there were
theatres that booked really good foreign films. The theatre where my brother
worked as a <i class="">benshi</i>, the Kanda Cinema Palace, was one such theatre, and Tokugawa
Musei’s T</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;
color:#222222;background:white" class="">ō</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class="">y</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:#222222;background:
white" class="">ō</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Garamond, serif;" class=""> Palace was especially renowned. The modern <i class="">benshi</i>
of that time were different than traditional <i class="">benshi</i> because they were
expected to cover all the different roles of presentation—from skillful
explanations of foreign film content and performing, to program selection, to
advertisement. Their posters, too, were great, very inventive—. For example,
when they did <i class="">Doctor Mabuse</i>, the title characters read from bottom to
top. And with <i class="">Blood and Sand</i> (1922, Fred Niblo), at first glance the
poster seemed to be a sheet of pure red, but if you looked closely, you could
make out the small characters “blood” and “sand.” [draft]</span></p></div></blockquote><div class="">
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Anne, alas, I've only got a question on your question 1.</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Is there anything in the context that would say the film in question is definitely Japanese, or the reverse ??</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false" class="">Roger<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>
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On Sunday, 28 August 2022 at 23:49:51 BST, Anne McKnight via KineJapan <<a href="mailto:kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu" class="">kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu</a>> wrote:
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<div class=""><div id="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657" class=""><div class="">Hi everyone~<div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">As some of you know, I have been working on a translation project involving Kurosawa Akira’s <u class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">taidans</u> and essays. I’ve run into a couple of references that have stumped me—one on a silent film narrated by Tokugawa Musei, and one on a debate he, apparently, got into with a JCP member at some unspecified time.</div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">I would be curious if either of these items ring any bells…IDs or larger contexts.</div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">a) here is the passage in a Kurosawa essay (or, more precisely, his daughter’s ventriloquization of his voice from memoirs, conversations, ephemera, etc.). Does this sound vaguely familiar? It is always possible it is a mis-remembered account, of course…though the gothic and perhaps Expressionist scent is strong...</div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0px;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><p style="text-indent:0.5in;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657" lang="EN-US">Musei-san, like other <i class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">benshi</i>, was in charge of coordinating the accompaniment as well as the narration of the film. For instance, this is how one film went. A drunken guy approaches the sumptuous house of a wealthy man, carrying another man, and asks if the rich man will let the man on his back [?] spend the night, and leaves him. Musei doesn’t say a peep during that part, no accompaniment whatsoever. As time passes, the man keeps not waking up, and just as the rich man waves his hands [?] to revive the man he thinks is sleeping, Musei suddenly lets out a scream—kyaaa~~: the tragic cry of the man who discovers that the body lying underfoot belongs to his own son. Then the accompaniment suddenly begins, and the scene switches over to a lively carnival. Musei’s staging was incredibly skillful. I learned a lot from these productions, and spectators were really trained to watch films by Musei-san’s way of looking at things. For movie fans, Musei-san played the role of a guide. That’s just the kind of ideal movie theatre I want to create. (This is kind of long and I think the English description can suffice.)</span></p></div></blockquote><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">b) Kurosawa (him, actually, this time) makes reference to some sort of debate he got into with a JCP person. The essay is 1993, so it could have been at any point in the middle or late 20th century, though for obvious reasons, probably closer to the 50s-70s than the 1993 date of this essay. This one almost sounds like it might be related to JCP debates after people abandoned socialist realism—people like Abe Kobo or Hanada Kiyoteru. Does this “dispute” seem familiar to anyone, from film, art, or general debates about art and politics?</div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0px;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657" lang="EN-US">At one
time in Tokyo, the Japanese Communist Party had a lot of clout, and there was a
split between artists and <a class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">artisans</a></span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657" lang="EN-US">. There was one person who insisted that he was an
artist, not an artisan, and I butted heads with him many times. In my view, the
very idea that you could skip over the craft of being an artisan to just
declare yourself an artist is ridiculous.</span></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Garamond, serif;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657" lang="EN-US"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></span></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><font class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657" face="Garamond, serif"><span style="font-size:14.666666984558105px;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">一時、東京でも共産党が牛耳ってた時代があるけれども、そのときに、アルティストとアルチザン、つまり芸術家と職人というのでね、「俺は</span></font></div><span style="font-family:Garamond, serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">アルティストだ、</span><span style="font-family:Garamond, serif;font-size:14.666666984558105px;" class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">アルチザンじゃない」という人がいて、僕はすごくやり合ったんです。職人を突き抜けて芸術になるんであって、職人ではない芸術家なんてないんだ、と。</span></blockquote><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">If anything occurs to you, by way of intuitions or resemblances, I would love to hear about it. Thanks for any leads!</div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"><br class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657"></div><div class="ydp6e401646yiv4576213657">Anne</div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">KineJapan mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:KineJapan@mailman.yale.edu" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">KineJapan@mailman.yale.edu</a><br class=""><a href="https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/kinejapan" rel="nofollow" target="_blank" class="">https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/kinejapan</a><br class=""></div>
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