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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">A question, because I'm not over Japanese copyright law, and haven't fully read or understood what's at<a href="https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"> https://www.cric.or.jp/english/clj/cl2.html</a> : Many countries have 1952 or so as a cut-off date for PD, as the Berne agreement makes it a date. Is NHK's use of 1953 related to that? </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">From what I know Japan has on paper pretty standard 'fair dealing' IP law, not 'fair use' (as is the USA), and also has moral rights which mean 'authors' who died after 1967 have rights for 70 years after death (and AK died in 1998, of course). This seemed to be the case from a partially-English forum on Japanese copyright law and cinema at Yamagata maybe 10 years back. Fair dealings is a tighter IP environment, which is why the US can have the Internet Archive and most other nations nothing like it. However, the additional issue often talked about here is the annoying risk-adverse legal, corporate and public-culture environment in Japan. So whatever the law says, or reforms reported (<a href="https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Media-Entertainment/Japan-to-allow-freer-sharing-of-content-with-obscure-copyrights" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Media-Entertainment/Japan-to-allow-freer-sharing-of-content-with-obscure-copyrights</a>) actually behaviour is another thing. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">In the US, IP risk-taking tends gets tested in the courts. Can anyone thing of recent Japanese legal cases where IP law boundaries related to cultural production get tested, such as with the Internet Archive's recent fight with the US publishing industry?</div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Quentin Turnour<br></div><div><br></div>
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On Thursday, 9 May 2024 at 09:26:37 am AEST, Markus Nornes via KineJapan <kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277"><div><div dir="ltr">J-Flicks on NHK World has told me something akin to what Jasper wrote. They are starting a classics bit for each episode now, and I'll be doing the first batch. They are keen on big, famous directors (Ozu again), and 1953 is their cut-off date. I find their willingness to take the public domain rule refreshing. <div><br clear="none"></div><div>But when I suggested doing pre-1953 Kurosawa they immediately said no. The family was aggressive and problematic. It isn't worth the predictable fight. </div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Markus<br clear="none"><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(136,136,136);">--- </span></div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:small;"><font face="courier new, monospace" color="#274e13"><b><img src="https://ci3.googleusercontent.com/mail-sig/AIorK4wpadRRhHYSz0N5UbUflm2YEIclCcg0bTCCBEh81fkJ8isCMwomHpMoky49pEF7xzc4MTMR-PM" data-inlineimagemanipulating="true" width="55" height="96"><br clear="none"></b></font></div><div style="font-size:small;"><font face="courier new, monospace" color="#274e13"><b>Markus Nornes</b></font></div><div style="font-size:small;"><span style="font-family:monospace;"><font style="background-color: inherit;" color="#38761d"><b>Professor of Asian Cinema</b></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0px;"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><font size="1" color="#38761d"><font face="courier new, monospace">Department of Film, Television and Media</font><span style="font-family:monospace;">, Department of Asian Languages and Cultures, Penny Stamps </span><span style="font-family:monospace;">School of Art & Design</span></font></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0px;"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"> </blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border-color: currentcolor; border-style: none; border-width: medium; padding: 0px;"><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><font face="arial, sans-serif"><b><u><span style="background-color:rgb(182,215,168);">Homepage: <a shape="rect" href="http://www-personal.umich.edu/~nornes/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener"><font color="#ffffff">http://www-personal.umich.edu/~nornes/</font></a></span><font color="#6aa84f"><br clear="none"></font></u></b></font><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace" color="#93c47d"><b>Department of Film, Television and Media<br clear="none"></b></font><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace" color="#93c47d"><b>6348 North Quad<br clear="none"></b></font><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace" color="#93c47d"><b>105 S. State Street<br clear="none"></b></font><font size="1" face="courier new, monospace" color="#93c47d"><b>Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1285</b></font></blockquote></blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div style="color:rgb(136,136,136);"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277gmail_quote"><div id="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277yqt77689" class="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277yqt7115024118"><div dir="ltr" class="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277gmail_attr">On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 6:16 AM Jasper Sharp via KineJapan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;" class="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277gmail_quote"><div class="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277msg-6231397584599980761">
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In defense of Toho, I believe they are more circumspect with publicity materials like stills for the films of Kurosawa and Honda due to issues with the estates of these directors. That aside, as with any of the major studios, if you ask for image production
permissions or access, they'll quote some outlandish fee, just because of inhouse bureaucracy and the fact they've got bigger fish to fry. I've no contact myself at Toho, but I suspect if you did try, they'd probably ignore or dismiss your request and you
are probably better off asking Kawakita instead- who in my experience have more stills for most films than the studios do themselves.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277m_-6231397584599980761divRplyFwdMsg"><font style="font-size:11pt;" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> KineJapan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kinejapan-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kinejapan-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of Miyao, Daisuke via KineJapan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> 08 May 2024 18:32<br clear="none">
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<b>Cc:</b> Miyao, Daisuke <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:dmiyao@ucsd.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">dmiyao@ucsd.edu</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [KineJapan] Stills from Tōhō</font>
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Dear Ann,</div>
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I had a similar experience. I decided not to include stills from <i>Neko to Shozo</i> in
<i>Cinema Is a Cat</i>. Too bad because they do have wonderful images! (And the film is not available on DVD, either!) I hope the things will change for the better!</div>
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Best,</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="ydpa70ce8byiv5902495277m_-6231397584599980761x_divRplyFwdMsg"><font style="font-size:11pt;" face="Calibri, sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> KineJapan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kinejapan-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kinejapan-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of Earl Jackson via KineJapan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br clear="none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 7, 2024 11:51 PM<br clear="none">
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Ann,
<div>When Victor Fan and I coedited Nang, we even had a special agent mediate contract with Toho and it was a nightmare of irrationality and</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 8, 2024 at 12:52 PM Anne McKnight via KineJapan <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">kinejapan@mailman.yale.edu</a>> wrote:<br clear="none">
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Would anyone have a contact at Tōhō for stills permissions/purchase? I’m nearing the end of a book, a long translation and essay on Kurosawa Akira, and need to get permissions for 2 stills that Kurosawa Pro does not have; they told me to inquire at Tōhō. Stills
are from 「まあだだよ」and from 「一番美しく」. It’s possible Kurosawa Pro might introduce me to the right person, but in the interest of wrapping this up, if anyone has worked with someone lately and would be comfortable with relaying the contact, either here or via personal
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