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Remember the Passenger Pigeon. Once there were billions of them.<BR> <BR>Roger Kuhlman<br> <BR><div><div id="SkyDrivePlaceholder"></div>> From: monarch@saber.net<br>> Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:56:37 -0800<br>> To: leps-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>> Subject: Re: [Leps-l] [leps-talk] Monarch Armageddon<br>> <br>> On Feb 13, 2013, at 9:00 AM, Chuck Vaughn wrote:<br>> <br>> > I remember Paul has documented that a small number of<br>> > west coast Monarchs overwinter in eucalyptus trees at<br>> > Sky West golf coarse in Hayward.<br>> <br>> Yep and I've been gradually accumulating videos of monarchs<br>> overwintering in planted stands of eucalyptus or pine trees<br>> on golf courses, cemeteries and city parks in the ultra urbanized<br>> areas of California. Examples:<br>> <br>> San Leandro Marina Golf Course Nov. 15, 2011:<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=77NIWVT9fHA<br>> <br>> Chuck Corica Golf Course Dec. 18, 2011:<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdLm-Gr5A9E<br>> <br>> New Park Mall, Newark, Calif. Dec. 25, 2011:<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KyPnYopCnY<br>> <br>> Albany Hill, Albany, Calif. Dec. 25, 2011:<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdtARyqj9xc<br>> <br>> Morro Bay Golf Course Feb. 5, 2012:<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX70cjtX29k<br>> <br>> A cemetery in San Luis Obispo Feb 4, 2012<br>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrEBTFAlEdw<br>> <br>> > It seems to me that the Monarch migration, instead of being<br>> > a fragile phenomenon, must be a robust phenomenon or<br>> > else it wouldn't have survived for so long.<br>> <br>> Yep, just look at what happened in Australia,<br>> New Zealand, Spain and Portugal in the late 1800's.<br>> Humans inadvertently (via the emerging steam ship<br>> industry) introduced milkweeds from places like South <br>> Africa and these milkweeds flourished along roadsides <br>> and on farmland. Then at the same time humans inadvertently <br>> introduced very small numbers of monarchs from North America. <br>> Then almost overnight the monarch migration and overwintering<br>> phenomenon sprang up in multiple areas of those countries <br>> and the butterflies overwinter in city parks, cemeteries, clumps<br>> of trees on farmland, etc. just as they do in California: <br>> http://www.monarch.org.nz/monarch/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/photo1.jpg<br>> <br>> Paul Cherubini<br>> El Dorado, Calif.<br>> _______________________________________________<br>> Leps-l mailing list<br>> Leps-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>> http://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/leps-l<br></div>                                            </div></body>
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