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The piece that appeared in the New York Times is mainly advocacy for partisan Leftist Democrat positions and power. It has so much focus on extreme Rightwing crazies that is hard to take it as serious journalism. If you want promote the preservation of butterfly
numbers and diversity, you cannot let native ecosystems and natural habitats to fall victim to Human Overpopulation and Overdevelopment in America. That means for America, Illegal Immigration must be stopped entirely and excessive legal Mass Immigration restricted
to population neutral levels. Open Borders as we now have under Joe Biden is an Ecological Disgrace and an Ecological Disaster. I do not understand why so many Lepidopteran experts and enthusiasts can not appreciate these pertinent facts</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, February 7, 2022 12:54 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Quinn <entomike@gmail.com>; Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman@hotmail.com><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Leps List <leps-l@mailman.yale.edu><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Leps-l] NYTimes article on the NABA butterfly park</font>
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<div dir="auto">If I may weigh in, the NBC staff did not confront those with opposing sociopolitical views, quite the opposite. If left alone, i believe the center would wend its way along on a butterfly-substantive track. So while I agree that the list serve
should not become a shouting forum for disparate political commentaries, i also feel offended by attacks on an institution I value, and share a sense of outrage.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I will be facing this same issue viz my local butterfly club, so maybe this is a cautionary warm-up. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Thanks, I guess, for the exercise round.</div>
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<div>From: Mike Quinn <entomike@gmail.com> </div>
<div>Date: 2/7/22 11:45 AM (GMT-05:00) </div>
<div>To: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman@hotmail.com> </div>
<div>Cc: Leps List <leps-l@mailman.yale.edu> </div>
<div>Subject: Re: [Leps-l] NYTimes article on the NABA butterfly park </div>
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<div dir="auto">I appreciate the call for no politics, but this article, concerning south Texas butterfly habitat, ran on the front page of Sunday’s NYTimes so I don’t think it’s something that we as a group should ignore though individuals are more than welcome
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<div dir="auto">Mike Quinn, Austin</div>
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<div class="x_gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Feb 7, 2022 at 12:34 AM Roger Kuhlman <<a href="mailto:rkuhlman@hotmail.com">rkuhlman@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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I think all this talking about Not Following the Science and Science is the intellectual enemy only amounts to Extremist Leftist Political Propagandizing for Leftist Political Power. I find it very offensive and wish to not see it in intelligent discussions
of butterflies, their natural habitats, and ways of life. Do you think we can cool this line of politics?</div>
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on behalf of Metzler, Eric H. <<a href="mailto:MetzlerEH@si.edu">MetzlerEH@si.edu</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 6, 2022 7:37 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Mike Quinn <<a href="mailto:entomike@gmail.com">entomike@gmail.com</a>>; Leps-L <<a href="mailto:leps-l@mailman.yale.edu">leps-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>>; TXBL <<a href="mailto:TX-BUTTERFLY@listserv.uh.edu">TX-BUTTERFLY@listserv.uh.edu</a>>; TXENTO
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Leps-l] NYTimes article on the NABA butterfly park</font>
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<span style="font-family:Times,"Times New Roman",serif; font-size:large">I attribute this situation to a weird association of butterflies and science where science is the intellectual enemy.</span>
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<div style="font-family:times new roman,serif; font-size:large"><span style="font-family:Times,"Times New Roman",serif">I suggest our educational system is failing us by not ensuring students learn critical thinking. The conspiracy theorists were always there
yet remained below the surface until emboldened by the thinking of the administration between 2016 and 2020. In my department back in the 1980s one of my colleagues and close friends would return from meetings with the folks who used our research and accumulated
knowledge to teach. He would return to his office and always say "Fictitious but true." There are facts and there is the truth. Each person must decide based upon their education and indoctrination, at home, at school, socially, and church if they attend one.
In our small city of 35,000 people, 2/3 are right-wing well-meaning people, and less than 50% are vaccinated. There is one very low wattage church chat show. I regularly listen because I want to know what the 2/3 right leaning people are hearing. The stuff
that is broadcast is scary. One so-called news-on-the-hour broadcast said people should not get vaccinated for COVID because every vaccinated person dies. No doubt a true statement and reveals no critical thinking.</span></div>
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<div style="font-family:times new roman,serif; font-size:large"><span style="font-family:Times,"Times New Roman",serif">I work hard to teach my students to research and think. I touch so few students compared to the thousands of people who join the masses of
conspiracy theorists. My former neighbor, a very nice man, from across the street insisted planes from China were flying overhead daily to spread the COVID virus. Then in the next sentence he said COVID doesn't exist. Critical thinking? I think not. I recently
attended his funeral after COVID caused his death. </span><br>
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<div style="font-family:times new roman,serif; font-size:large"><span style="font-family:Times,"Times New Roman",serif">From sunny southern New Mexico.</span></div>
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<font color="#000000" face="Calibri, sans-serif" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Leps-l <<a href="mailto:leps-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">leps-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>> on behalf of Mike Quinn <<a href="mailto:entomike@gmail.com">entomike@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, February 6, 2022 4:47 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Leps-L <<a href="mailto:leps-l@mailman.yale.edu">leps-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>>; TXBL <<a href="mailto:TX-BUTTERFLY@listserv.uh.edu">TX-BUTTERFLY@listserv.uh.edu</a>>; TXENTO <<a href="mailto:TX-ENTO@listserv.uh.edu">TX-ENTO@listserv.uh.edu</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Leps-l] NYTimes article on the NABA butterfly park</font>
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<div>How the National Butterfly Center Became the Center of Online Lies - The New York Times
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