[NHCOLL-L:4184] Re: Large glass jars and closures

Thu Jan 29 14:49:11 EST 2009

Hi:

I can't help with suppliers of wider mouth glass pails.  In regards to 1 and
2.5 gallon jars, I recently ran across a one US gallon glass screw top jar
at WalMart made by Anchor-Hocking.  It has a 120mm opening or lid size.
Thus it has the same size opening or lid size as the one gallon jars that
are commonly used in wet collections.  These jars are squat and have an
embossed pattern on them.  The pattern is pretty neutral and seems to be for
gripping the jar rather than decoration.  The price per jar at WalMart was
less than $6 US per jar.  I would guess that quantity discounts can be found
at other venders.  The single jar that I purchased and tested for lid fit
seemed fine.  Here is the website for the jar -
http://www.anchorhocking.com/prodd_4494_cat_25_cracker_jar.html  Here is a
better picture http://www.cooking.com/products/shprodde.asp?SKU=164275 .
Contacting Anchor Hocking should be a way to get more detailed specs on the
jar as well as info on venders for volume purchases.  Anyone interested in
this jar should purchase a few and test them to make sure that the jars
perform as expected.  It is best to test.  I would not use the lids that
come with the jars but rather use the standard polypropylene lids with
polyethylene liners.

It looks like Anchor Hocking also carries the 2.5 US gallon "pickle
barrels."  I don't see specs on lid size but pickle barrels like these have
a 120mm opening or lid size.  These are embossed with barrel type markings
like straps and a bung.  However the embossing is not "jarring" and looks
perfectly acceptable in the collection. See
http://www.anchorhocking.com/prodd_4341_cat_25_barrel.html  Our only issues
with the older manufacture pickle barrels is that the two piece wire bails
have to be installed on site with pliers.  The assembler has to make sure to
securely close the open end of the one part of the bail that clamps around
the other half of the bail.  After about 20 years, some of the wood or
plastic handles that are used to cushion the hand while carrying the jar
start to split.  This is not a huge problem.  The bail stays intact but the
jar can be uncomfortable to carry long distances.  If the handle goes
completely, handles like this might work to cushion the hand -
http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/product.asp?catalog_name=USPlastic&category_name=20326&product_id=29204&cookie_test=1or
this
http://ashton-home-products-inc.amazonwebstore.com/BucketHelper/M/B000KJVYFG.htm

Sincerely,

Alan

Alan Resetar (Mr.)
Collection Manager
Division of Amphibians and Reptiles
Field Museum of Natural History
1400 S. Lake Shore Dr.
Chicago, Illinois 60605-2496 USA
1-312-665-7768 - Phone
1-312-665-7932 - Fax
aresetar at fieldmuseum.org - E-mail
Please check our collection website at
http://fm1.fieldmuseum.org/collections/search.cgi?dest=herps
Please check our reprint website at
http://www.fmnh.org/research_collections/zoology/aandr_reprints.htm

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On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Moore, Simon <simon.moore at hants.gov.uk>wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> Have you considered stainless steel tanks?  They have the advantage of
> being more robust and less vulnerable to physical knocks and if you use a
> thick glass lid then you can see the specimens and any problems that may
> occur to them.  I am always slightly apprehensive of larger containers if
> made of glass.
>
> The National Museum of Ireland use these and if you need contact details
> there, let me know.
>
>
> With all good wishes,
> Simon Moore, MIScT, FLS, ACR,
> Senior Conservator of Natural Sciences.
> Hampshire County Council
> Recreation & Heritage Department,
> Museums & Archives Service,
> Chilcomb House, Chilcomb Lane,
> Winchester SO23 8RD. UK.
> Internal  8 327 6737
> 01962 826737
> http://www.hants.gov.uk/museum/biology
>
>
>
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> From: owner-nhcoll-l at lists.yale.edu [mailto:owner-nhcoll-l at lists.yale.edu]
> On Behalf Of Neumann Dirk
> Sent: 29 January 2009 08:25
> To: christophermatthewstinson at gmail.com
> Cc: NHCOLL-L at lists.yale.edu
> Subject: [NHCOLL-L:4181] Re: Large glass jars and closures
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> similar problems here in Europe. One of the last providers of larger
> glasses for natural history collections, Stölzle Oberglas from Austria, seem
> to have stopped production of glasses with ground stoppers.
> Confronted with the situation that we had to store approx. 120 kg of deep
> sea sharks with up to 1 m length, we have been lucky in finding a company
> specialised in producing chemical glassware components (such as dessicators,
> condensers, etc.). For production of our large glass containers (up to 1200
> mm hight and diameter of 250 mm), Schott Duran glass tubes (borosilicate
> glass) are used, which are available up to an diameter of 250 mm. Glasses
> made from these glass tubes look like a big beaker closed with a flat
> grounded glass pane on a surface grinding.
> With this technique, glasses of all sizes are possible, avoiding bottle
> necks and cracking plastic liners.
>
> Pricing is comparable to "normal" ground glasses, e.g. a glass with 130 mm
> diameter and a hight of 400 mm costs ca. 75,- Eur (approx. 100,- U$).
>
> I will copy you the homepage of our German provider so you get an idea,
> surely there are similar companies in Canada as well.
> http://www.ggm-glastechnik.de/1280/start1280.htm
>
> Hope this helps
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Chris Stinson schrieb:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I was wondering if anyone could give me a source for glass jars larger
> > than 1gal, preferably 3-6gal sizes with wide mouths(130mm).  Also if
> > anyone could point me in the direction of closures for such jars -
> > ideally polypropylene with polyethylene liners.  These will be used to
> > house fluid preserved fish specimens.  If there are any ideas for
> > glass jars or other types of containers  of similar size to 5 or 6 gal
> > glass jars with wider mouths any info would also be
> > appreciated.   I have already  found some polycarbonate containers
> > from University Products but I'm not sure of their long term viability.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Chris Stinson
> > Assistant Curator
> > Beaty Biodiversity Museum, UBC
> > Vancouver, BC
> >
>
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