[NHCOLL-L:4239] Re: Coelacanth tank.... Further information

[Neumann Dirk]

To mount specimens might be a solution for public exhibitions in NH 
museums, but for research collections it would mean the loss of the 
(biological) information of the concerning specimen(s). The storage for 
over 20 years in large plastic barrels left many of our sharks and rays 
and kind of compressed wound up chunk in which specimens from different 
stations were lumped together identified only by small labels squeezed 
into their mouths (which many lost). Not to mention the poor alcohol 
quality after years of oil escaping from the specimens ...

To store them lot-wise sorted according stations even in large glass 
containers is maybe a (expensive) luxury, but for the specimens (and for 
a research collection) one of the best solutions.

Dirk




O'Brien, Mark schrieb:
> Wouldn’t it be far more economical to just have a museums display 
> expert make a mold of the actual specimen and recreate it in a molded 
> material, painted so as to look like the real thing? It’s done all the 
> time in museums, and objects can be better exhibited without the worry 
> of preservatives and loss of the actual specimen. It’s done all the 
> time for bones and fossils. I see no clear reason why it cannot apply 
> to a Coelacanth.
>
> Mark
>
>
> On 03/11/2009 11:56 AM, "Neumann Dirk" <Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de> wrote:
>
>     Hi Nicola,
>
>     we had similar problems with storing large deep sea sharks. (up to 120
>     cm length). Try to find a company specialised in producing chemical
>     glassware components (such as dessicators, condensers, etc.). For
>     production of our large glass containers (up to 1200 mm hight and
>     diameter of 250 mm), Schott Duran glass tubes (borosilicate glass) are
>     used, which are available up to an diameter of 250 mm. Glasses
>     made from
>     these glass tubes look like a big beaker closed with a flat grounded
>     glass pane on a surface grinding. With this technique, glasses of all
>     sizes are possible, avoiding bottle necks and cracking plastic liners.
>
>     Price for large glasses like this are approx. 500,- EUR (local
>     provider
>     here in Munich)
>     Find below the homepage of our German provider so you get an idea,
>     there
>     should be similar companies in the UK. The homepage is in German,
>     sorry.
>     Click on the 4th square in the upper first row to display the glass
>     tubes ...
>     http://www.ggm-glastechnik.de/1280/start1280.htm
>
>     Hope this helps
>
>     Dirk
>
>
>
>
>
>
>     Nicola Newton schrieb:
>     > Hello everyone,
>     > Thanks to those who have responded to my request for help
>     concerning a tank for my coelacanth. However, what I forgot to say
>     is that the fish will be on display so a stainless steel holding
>     vessel isn't really appropriate. I would like to purchase a glass
>     tank that is preferably moulded form glass. If anyone has any
>     thoughts about this they would be gratefully received.
>     > Best wishes
>     > Nicola
>     >
>     > Nicola Newton BSc Zoology(Hons), MA
>     > Curatorial Assistant for Biology
>     > Great North Museum:Hancock
>     > 3-4 Claremont Terrace
>     > Newcastle university
>     > Newcastle upon Tyne
>     > NE2 4AE
>     >
>     > tel: 0191 2228867
>     > email - nicola.newton at newcastle.ac.uk
>     >
>     > The Great North Museum : Hancock is managed by Tyne and Wear
>     Museums on behalf of Newcastle University.
>     >
>     > You can Be Part of It and help make a Great Big difference to our
>     work at the Great North Museum by making a donation now. To find
>     out more, please visit
>     www.twmuseums.org.uk/greatnorthmuseum/bepartofit
>     >
>     > Find out about the latest highlights from the Tyne & Wear Museums
>     exhibitions and events programme by subscribing to our new
>     podcast: www.twmuseums.org.uk/podcasts
>     >
>     > Leader of the North East Regional Museums Hub
>     >
>     > Our mission is to help people determine their place in the world
>     and define their identities, so enhancing their self-respect and
>     respect for others.
>     >
>     > Find out more at: www.twmuseums.org.uk
>     >
>     >
>     >
>
>
>     --
>     Dirk Neumann
>
>     Tel: 089 / 8107-111
>     Fax: 089 / 8107-300
>     email: Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de
>
>     Postanschrift:
>
>     Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
>     Zoologische Staatssammlung München
>     Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Labor
>     Münchhausenstr. 21
>     81247 München
>
>     Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
>     http://www.zsm.mwn.de/ich/
>
>     ---------
>
>     Dirk Neumann
>
>     Tel: +49-89-8107-111
>     Fax: +49-89-8107-300
>     email: Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de
>
>     postal address:
>
>     Bavarian Natural History Collections
>     The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
>     Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Lab
>     Muenchhausenstr. 21
>     81247 Munich (Germany)
>
>     Visit our section at:
>     http://www.zsm.mwn.de/ich/
>
>
>
> ===================================
> Mark F. O'Brien, Collection Manager
> UMMZ Insect Division, 1109 Geddes Avenue
> University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1079
> 734-647-2199 fax: 734-763-4080
> ===================================
>


-- 
Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
email: Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de

Postanschrift:

Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung München
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Labor
Münchhausenstr. 21
81247 München

Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/ich/

---------

Dirk Neumann

Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
email: Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de

postal address:

Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Lab
Muenchhausenstr. 21
81247 Munich (Germany)

Visit our section at:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/ich/