[NHCOLL-L:5037] Re: Fwd: EU shipments

Tue Oct 26 04:46:34 EDT 2010

One clarification: I was not implying in any way that you should lie to  
customs. Following the law, we file our USFWS declarations with the correct  
species names and include approved copies of these and copies of all loan  
forms with all correct species names.
But on the actually Fed Ex way bill and Fed Ex commercial shipping  
declaration, we do not write the species names. We say the "Scientific  
Samples" there, with the country of origin and the number of samples.

Thanks
Carol

> Sorry Carol, your answer is in parts misleading and incorrect.

> For species protection issues, the statement "scientific samples"
> as description of goods in most of the commercial invoices issues in US
> Museums is insufficient for customs clearance; there are alone
> more then 800 protected snakes under CITES (excluding the in parts
> stricter European animal protection regulations). We need the
> scientific name (at least to familiy level for undetermined species) to
> facilitate the import regarding animal harmonised protection
> legislation of EC memberstates.

> Concerning vet regulations:

> The European veterinarian legislation is not harmonised, leading to a
> different implementation of the European laws in the single member
> states. Currently, a comprehensive amendment is discussed in Brussels,
> which stipulates in the current version the inspection of all animal
> from the class insecta and arachnida. We (CETAF & SPNHC) are
> lobbying against that with pretty good success at the moment, but there
> is no final decision so far.

> What is clear already now, that we will need to improve our shipping
> docs / the documentation of the specimens shipped. A common standard
> for shipping docs was recommended in previous postings.

> The assumption that your parcels with lizards sent to Germany would
> include living specimens might be due to lacking information regarding
> fixation and preservation of the specimens included. This information
> in vital for vets clearance and needs to be included on any commercial
> invoice or shipping dos.

> *********

> Greg,

> regarding your specimens for Spain, please adjust the text from the
> attached shipping docs for your needs without changing the meaning of
> the text much. You need to include the following information to
> facilitate import and customs (animal protection issues) and vets
> clearance:

> Include the scientific names either on the shipping doc, or better
> refer to an attached loan form (which makes clear, that the specimens
> included are state property)

> Update the preservation/fixation information if necessary.

> Change the Country of origin to (United States of America) if the
> specimens sent are from your collection; if you return specimens on
> loan, it should be Spain (EC specimens returned to a EC memberstate are
> not subject for inspection under the current legislation - if
> inspected, costs can be claimed)

> Please omit the information in the table of the shipping doc, as all
> information in there is ZSM specific.

> All the best

> Dirk

> Am 25.10.2010 20:22, schrieb Carol Spencer:

> Hi Greg,

> We have sent items to Finland and Greece
> very recently and these did not require any vet statements. Besides the
> correct labeling for ethanol, we labeled everything "Scientific
> samples" and never say anything like "Lizards", Salamanders etc. We did
> have something come back from Germany a while ago because they thought
> it was a live lizard. And we did have a problem with vet labels for
> China, but we sent some more documentation and our researchers were
> able to get the tissues.

> I am sending some specimens to Spain in a week, so would be interested
> to hear from anyone about that.

> Cheers,

> Carol

> On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 8:46 AM,
> Watkins-Colwell, Gregory gregory.watkins-colwell at yale.edu>
> wrote:

> I am about to ship some snake specimens to
> Spain. I recall
> that not long ago somebody said that EU shipments via FedEx now require
> some
> sort of veterinary statement. Is this still the case?

> Greg

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