[Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
Bentley, Andrew Charles
abentley at ku.edu
Mon May 21 12:07:05 EDT 2012
Lex
We too use the Le Parfait jars but unfortunately they have an even smaller opening and given the price of tanks nowadays, it was nice to have the 120mm gallons to house that class of specimens. The other options mentioned are decidedly more expensive and well out of the range of the budgets of most collections I know for regular specimen containers. They may be doable for a one off "special specimen" though.
Andy
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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA
Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Alexandra M Snyder
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:38 AM
To: Dirk Neumann; Monaghan, Nigel
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
For over 25 years, I have used Le Parfait French captive lid canning jars for preservation of fishes. In the US there are several distributors of these jars. The following link lists European distributors:
http://leparfait.com/list-of-outlets
Used with the white 55 Duro Buna-N rubber gaskets (US
manufacturer) instead of the orange gaskets (provided with jars), these make excellent specimen jars. The orange gaskets will hold up for a year or so but must be replaced more frequently than the Buna-N rubber gaskets. (Any residue left on the jar lid or rim from the old orange gasket must be completely removed before replacing with a new gasket.)
The size range: 0.5 liter to 3.0 liter. Our practice is to put any specimen that is too large for the 3 liter jar into the stainless steel tank system rather than trying to find jars to fit over-sized specimens.
Lex
On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:10:42 +0200
Dirk Neumann <Dirk.Neumann at zsm.mwn.de> wrote:
> ... another one would be Stoezle Oberglas; compared to the
>glass-tube-melting option, prices of both suppliers are considerably
>higher for comparable large ground stopper glasses ....
>
>
>
> Am 21.05.2012 12:03, schrieb Monaghan, Nigel:
>> Folks
>>
>> For those on the other side of the Atlantic there is a good (not
>>cheap though) supplier in the UK in Dixon Glass. They also manufacture
>>large containers from borosilicate glass.
>> http://www.dixonglass.co.uk/bespoke-glassware/
>>
>> Nigel
>>
>> Mr Nigel T. Monaghan,
>> Keeper,
>> Natural History Division,
>> National Museum of Ireland,
>> Merrion Street,
>> Dublin 2,
>> IRELAND
>>
>> nmonaghan at museum.ie
>> www.museum.ie
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
>> Sent: 18 May 2012 07:44
>> To: Watters, Jessa L.
>> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
>>
>> Dear Jessa,
>>
>> maybe I am coming up with an old idea for replacing (commercially
>> produced) glass containers posted here already before, but perhaps
>>still an alternative especially for large specimens (max. width: 300
>>mm, max.
>> [stable] hight: 1200 mm): it is possible to melt larger glass
>>container from borosilicate glass tubes (see attached - glass holds
>>two Australian lungfishes, dimensions of the glass are 250x1000 mm).
>>
>> These glass tubes are produced by Schott Duran - and as far as I know
>>- available in the US.
>>
>> Smaller glasses are possible either - we order regularly
>>130x300 mm&
>> 80x300 mm glasses from a local glassblower specialised on production
>>of chemical instruments - these range about
>>70-80 EUR including the grinded glass lids.
>>
>> For large rays we recently orderer glasses with 300x600 mm.
>>
>> Problem surely is to find a glassblower who can handle this.
>>
>> Compared to commercially produced glasses much more expensive, but
>>offers better glass quality (no weathering / corrosion like in
>>soda-lime
>> glass) and is - compared to plastic drums - still the better option.
>>I compared prices on the SPNHC meeting in Leiden with similar large
>>glass containers from Dixon glass (UK). Our price was 1/3 of the Dixon
>>price.
>> Even though Dixon offered large ground stopper glasses and "our"
>>glasses are closed "only" with grounded glass planes, this option is
>>very attractive& competitive - regarding price& dimensions of the
>>glass.
>>
>> Best regards
>> Dirk
>>
>>
>> Am 16.05.2012 23:43, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
>>> Jessa
>>>
>>> Numerous people have tried and failed to get these back into
>>>production. As far as I can tell there is no one out there who is
>>>still producing these and there is not enough volume of need from the
>>>natural history community to get them back into production. I have
>>>contacted our glass supplier (Kols Containers) and they have
>>>researched this without any luck. Only 110mm gallon jars available
>>>now...
>>>
>>> Sorry
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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>>> Andy Bentley
>>> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>>> University of Kansas
>>> Biodiversity Institute
>>> Dyche Hall
>>> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>>> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>>> USA
>>>
>>> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>>> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>>> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>>> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
>>>[mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Watters,
>>>Jessa L.
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:17 PM
>>> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?
>>>
>>> Does anyone out there have a current vendor for 1 gallon wide-mouth
>>>(120mm) glass jars? It seems that everyone I talked to hasn't
>>>purchased them for years and those companies don't produce them
>>>anymore. Any help is appreciated!
>>> Jessa
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Jessa L. Watters
>>> Collection Manager
>>> Division of Herpetology
>>> Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History University of Oklahoma
>>> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
>>> Norman, OK 73072
>>> Phone: 405-325-7771
>>> Fax: 405-325-7699
>>> jwatters at ou.edu
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>>
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> Tel: 089 / 8107-111
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> Münchhausenstr. 21
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> Dirk Neumann
>
> Tel: +49-89-8107-111
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