[Nhcoll-l] Ranking of largest collections -- HELP

[Rob Robins]

As I wrote to Mr. Kemp under separate cover, and as Carol’s update below makes clear, University-based museums are not to be discounted. (Especially one as pre-eminent and venerable as the UMMZ).

I’d also like to double-down on Carol’s comment:

“…realize some museums don't have every collection at their institution up yet on VN…”

Her statement  applies to all manner of centralized data repositories. But just as an example, The UF herp collection has, to my recollection, 273,000 specimens (I am a fish guy) and VN reports 169,000. Why the discrepancy?

We are all too busy….!

Back to it…

☺

Rob

Robert H. Robins
Senior Biologist/Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology

Florida Museum of Natural History
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From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Carol Spencer
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:05 PM
To: Christopher Kemp
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Ranking of largest collections -- HELP

And one update, UMMZ says this: 195,469 (through catalogue number UMMZ 240,000) catalogued lots representing 431,316 individual specimens

so that puts them in second!

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Carol Spencer <atrox10 at gmail.com<mailto:atrox10 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Chris
You should be able to put this together somewhat through the numbers of specimens listed on VertNet or on GBIF (or at various museum's websites, and realize some museums don't have every collection at their institution up yet on VN):  https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__portal.vertnet.org_publishers&d=AwIGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=5pJEQwWcPcyWbRqM-xcnbOqr-dChuNj_z3ns_pnytJI&s=3pCmy0z5SWMO9zMuUlnuz3y4VxpYYyAdpXqMhkxKjc8&e= <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__portal.vertnet.org_publishers&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=A6oOc9q8Cdc7hAEddUI0J1DtjGxTzxcVG4TZYS2bZt4&s=lyzK8FxyIe0tENvZpyG-d5WaK2KdQNlQM0dlvAMFMyQ&e=>

My recollection for US Herps (which is not nec. the same for all collections) is this, based on numbers of specimens for herps listed on their websites or on VN:
1) USNM - 566K
2) AMNH  > 335K
3)  KU- 335K (334,913)
4) MCZ - 324K
5) CAS- 310K
6) FMNH-285K
7) MVZ - 270K
8) UMMZ - 197K

I apologize if I missed anyone in that ranking!
You'll have to add up all the rest of the collections at these places to get the full picture.

Cheers
Carol






On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 12:50 PM, Christopher Kemp <cjkemp at gmail.com<mailto:cjkemp at gmail.com>> wrote:
Please post this to the listserv
Hi again all, I was really impressed and excited by the feedback for my project collecting examples of newly-described species with long shelf lives. It was great! (But keep them coming too.) I had another question. I don't know if this is empirically known or somewhat debatable, but I'm trying to make a list of the top 5 natural history collections in the US, and in the world. So, two lists. And I mean in terms of size, or number of specimens. Please weigh in. I'm assuming NMNH, AMNH, the Field for the US, but who's next? And in the world, I just don't know: the NMNH, the BMNH, the AMNH? I don't know. Share your thoughts. I'm at cjkemp at gmail.com<mailto:cjkemp at gmail.com>, or respond on the listserv. Thanks in advance! -- ck


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