[Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 52, Issue 4
Mandy Reid
Mandy.Reid at austmus.gov.au
Thu Aug 11 19:47:21 EDT 2016
For what its worth, I wouldn’t clean them out because the material might be useful for DNA. Or, at least keep the residue (which will, of course contain bacterial DNA as well).
Cheers
Mandy Reid
Australian Museum
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> 1. Cleaning out shells (Karen Morton)
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> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:44:05 +0000
> From: Karen Morton <Karen.Morton at perotmuseum.org>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
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> Does anyone have any advice for the best way to clean out old shells? We received a donation of fossils and marine shells, and we are discovering that many of the shells are not exactly empty of their former residents.
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> We have already run everything through our freezer to make sure there weren't any live pests included, so now we just need to try to get the contents out of the shells. They don't smell too wonderful!
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> Thank you.
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> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 17:51:32 +0000
> From: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44 at drexel.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
> To: Karen Morton <Karen.Morton at perotmuseum.org>,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
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> Soak in warm water for a few hours, then use a water-pik or a thin hoze nozzle to blast out the remains. Do this in a sink or tub of water and keep the shell and the nozzle submerged. Wear old clothes. Cancel any dates that evening.
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> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Morton
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:44 PM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
>
> Dear List Members,
>
> Does anyone have any advice for the best way to clean out old shells? We received a donation of fossils and marine shells, and we are discovering that many of the shells are not exactly empty of their former residents.
>
> We have already run everything through our freezer to make sure there weren't any live pests included, so now we just need to try to get the contents out of the shells. They don't smell too wonderful!
>
> Thank you.
>
> Sincerely,
> KAREN MORTON
> Collections Manager
> Perot Museum of Nature and Science
> P 214.756.5722 | karen.morton at perotmuseum.org<mailto:karen.morton at perotmuseum.org>
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> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:41:54 +0100
> From: Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
> To: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44 at drexel.edu>
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> As an add-on to Paul?s suggestion I would add some lab. surfactant to the water so that it?s about 3% concentration, this will help to rehydrate the contents and it helps if the water is at least warm. Make sure the shower is working for afterwards!
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> With all good wishes, Simon.
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> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
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> On 05 Aug 2016, at 18:51, Callomon,Paul <prc44 at drexel.edu> wrote:
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>> Soak in warm water for a few hours, then use a water-pik or a thin hoze nozzle to blast out the remains. Do this in a sink or tub of water and keep the shell and the nozzle submerged. Wear old clothes. Cancel any dates that evening.
>>
>> PC
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>> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Morton
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:44 PM
>> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
>>
>> Dear List Members,
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>> Does anyone have any advice for the best way to clean out old shells? We received a donation of fossils and marine shells, and we are discovering that many of the shells are not exactly empty of their former residents.
>>
>> We have already run everything through our freezer to make sure there weren?t any live pests included, so now we just need to try to get the contents out of the shells. They don?t smell too wonderful!
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> KAREN MORTON
>> Collections Manager
>> Perot Museum of Nature and Science
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 19:37:09 +0000
> From: "Callomon,Paul" <prc44 at drexel.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
> To: Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com>
> Cc: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
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> Lab surfactant: I use Alconox, but plain Trisodium phosphate works pretty well too.
>
> PC
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> Paul Callomon
> Collection Manager, Malacology, Invertebrate Paleontology and General Invertebrates
> ________________________________
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> From: Simon Moore [mailto:couteaufin at btinternet.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:42 PM
> To: Callomon,Paul
> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
>
> As an add-on to Paul's suggestion I would add some lab. surfactant to the water so that it's about 3% concentration, this will help to rehydrate the contents and it helps if the water is at least warm. Make sure the shower is working for afterwards!
>
> With all good wishes, Simon.
>
> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
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> On 05 Aug 2016, at 18:51, Callomon,Paul <prc44 at drexel.edu<mailto:prc44 at drexel.edu>> wrote:
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> Soak in warm water for a few hours, then use a water-pik or a thin hoze nozzle to blast out the remains. Do this in a sink or tub of water and keep the shell and the nozzle submerged. Wear old clothes. Cancel any dates that evening.
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> PC
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> From: nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Karen Morton
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 1:44 PM
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> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Cleaning out shells
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> Dear List Members,
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> Does anyone have any advice for the best way to clean out old shells? We received a donation of fossils and marine shells, and we are discovering that many of the shells are not exactly empty of their former residents.
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> We have already run everything through our freezer to make sure there weren't any live pests included, so now we just need to try to get the contents out of the shells. They don't smell too wonderful!
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> Thank you.
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> Sincerely,
> KAREN MORTON
> Collections Manager
> Perot Museum of Nature and Science
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> From: Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: Cleaning out shells
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> Hi Karen,
>
> If the shells
> or snails are not too fragile or valuable, put them in an ultrasonic
> bath. After that they are clean. Maybe the surface looks dulled after
> that.
> If you rub them quite thinly with petroleum jelly, they get a nice shine and look like freshly captured.
>
>
> I wish you success!
>
> Cheers
> Joachim
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