[Nhcoll-l] "Zip-lock" food storage bags

Dirk Neumann dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
Tue Feb 27 02:12:56 EST 2018


Maybe some pictures help:

Inflight Cargo Fire UPS, Philadelphia, USA: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.ntsb.gov_investigations_AccidentReports_Reports_AAR0707.pdf&d=DwID-g&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=ZAC922-mliAhZOH7IzzlcFmySxIz3uNnOnknobIUmA4&s=6LUivgJpelJZv1XBmpDeREcEy_n-2wEDpgLixbil73I&e=
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__aviation-2Dsafety.net_database_record.php-3Fid-3D20060208-2D0-26lang-3Dde&d=DwID-g&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=ZAC922-mliAhZOH7IzzlcFmySxIz3uNnOnknobIUmA4&s=pJ7VgBjjjB31JiRCfBhc_LIz2PGSoOF86rjRosWpi-U&e=


I was working for UPS air operations at that time and luckily the 
Philadelphia crew managed to land safely and to escape.
Those colleagues on their way to Cologne/Bonn (Germany) were less lucky: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_UPS-5FAirlines-5FFlight-5F6&d=DwID-g&c=cjytLXgP8ixuoHflwc-poQ&r=LpYc_Z_iN1KRw0hheb3x6-8MJUMu482qfHowpGYJqwc&m=ZAC922-mliAhZOH7IzzlcFmySxIz3uNnOnknobIUmA4&s=eaugBWrYdRdqPTqZX2SEOXDEIs01cA3td15nyisLf9g&e=

Be sure that the shipper of the parcel causing the fire was traced.

The ICAO/IATA exemptions will be revoked, if repeated non-compliance is 
observed an recorded, regardless how compliant the majority is.

It should be in our vital interest to inform our colleagues to meet the 
regulations. There is good reasons, why they are in place. The IATA A180 
exemption is not complicated at all, and I bet all institutions are able 
to afford at least a household bag sealer.

Please spread the word and try to reach those, /who have been doing it 
like that /[using zip-lock bags etc.] /for ages./ We shouldn't loose 
ICAO/IATA alleviations because of uninformed few.

Once revoked, it will be very unlikely to get exempted again, which will 
dramatically increase costs for institutions for dangerous goods 
shipping and IATA certifications and yearly requalification of staff. 
All those who once went through a IATA certification process know what 
this means.

All the best
Dirk
(Co-Chair of the SPNHC Legs & Regs committee)




Am 26.02.2018 um 22:41 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
>
> All of this information and more is contained in the SPNHC wiki page 
> on Shipping dangerous goods.  I have been trying to consistently point 
> people at that page as a way of standardizing our best practices 
> around this issue. However, it does not get at those people who still 
> insist on doing things their own way – no matter how illegal or 
> illogical.  I am also an advocate for emailing anyone who sends 
> material incorrectly to try and improve or correct their practices.  
> If the whole community did this we would hopefully eventually attain 
> parity and get everyone doing things to correct way.
>
> Andy
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> *From:*nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu 
> [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dirk Neumann
> *Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2018 3:01 PM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] "Zip-lock" food storage bags
>
> Good idea, Jeff!
>
> Below is the brief summary on one page on how to ship alcohol 
> specimens IATA conform (A180) from our shipping workshop; please fell 
> free to share it.
>
> All the  best
> Dirk
> ********
> Printer friendly summary Special Provision A180
>
> Museum specimens such as mammals, birds, amphibians, reptiles, fish,
> insects and other invertebrates, containing small quantities of UN1170,
> UN1987 or UN1219, are not part of this regulations if following 
> packing and
> marking requirements are met:
>
> - specimens wrapped in alcohol soaked fabric or cheesecloth are heat 
> sealed in plastic bags, each
>     welding contains not more then 30 ml of free liquid (max. net 
> drained volume), or
> - loose voucher specimens or tissues packed in rigid containers (e.g. 
> plastic tubes or vials); tubes must
>        not contain more than 30ml free liquid (total volume).
> - Specimen wrappings or containers are packed and heat sealed in 
> plastic bags (1st sealing)
> - Sealed samples are packed with sufficient absorbent in plastic bags 
> and sealed again (2nd sealing)
>      ***please refrain from using vermiculite as absorbent material***
> - Sealed samples are packed with sufficient cushioning material in 
> stable packaging (drop test 1.2 m / 4 ft)
> - Complete consignment is marked legible and durable with “scientific 
> research specimens,
>        not restricted, special provision A180 applies” on same side 
> that carries address information
> - Same wording is displayed in the “Description of Goods” field if an 
> (air) waybill is issued
>
>
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> Am 26.02.2018 um 17:53 schrieb Jeff Stephenson:
>
>     Andy is correct; I would only add that we try to make others aware
>     of these regulations by emailing them instructions to meet the
>     IATA standards before they ship us new materials, and to include
>     these instructions with all outgoing loans.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Jeff
>
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>     *From:*nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
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>     [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of *Bentley,
>     Andrew Charles
>     *Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2018 9:49 AM
>     *To:* Alexandra Snyder; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>     <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
>     *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] "Zip-lock" food storage bags
>
>     I would wholeheartedly endorse this but also go a step further in
>     mentioning that the IATA regulations that govern the shipping of
>     excepted quantities of flammable liquids through IATA Special
>     Provision A180 expressly require heat sealing of both inner and
>     outer bags (or other positive closure such as screw top vial) as
>     part of their packing instructions along with maximum quantities
>     of ethanol in both inner and outer packages.  As such Zip-Lock
>     bags of any sort of tying closed bags with string or rubber bands
>     is forbidden and should not be used.
>
>     DOT regulations that govern domestic shipping require that each
>     inner and outer packaging be securely closed with wire, tape or
>     other positive means.  A Zip-Lock bag does fit that decription.
>
>     I have been informed by my contacts at DOT and IATA that if
>     packages sent by the museum community using these regulations are
>     found to be in defiance of the regulation we run the risk of
>     having these exceptions rescinded and we will be back to square
>     one of being unable to ship materials through the mail. I do not
>     want all of our years of hard work to be for naught.
>
>     Please adhere to the regulations in all aspects of shipping and
>     packing to ensure this does not happen.  More information about
>     correct shipping and packing regulations and procedures can be
>     found on the SPNHC wiki here:
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>     Thanks
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>     Andy
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>     Biodiversity Institute
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>     *From:*nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
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>     [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of
>     *Alexandra Snyder
>     *Sent:* Monday, February 26, 2018 10:31 AM
>     *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
>     *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] "Zip-lock" food storage bags
>
>     This morning, once again, I am unpacking a leaking box of
>     specimens, a loan return.   I would like to make a special appeal
>     that fluid preserved specimens NOT be shipped in zip-lock food
>     storage bags---at all---but if they are used, zip-lock bags should
>     NOT be used as an "outside bag"---i.e., the bag that must hold
>     fluid if the first bags leak.  Not sure if they still do this, but
>     carriers like USPS, UPS or FedEx used claim that they would
>     discard packages if the package was leaking fluid.
>
>     A zip-lock can be used as a first bag, to hold specimens wrapped
>     in cheesecloth or toweling,  but the _outer bag_ that holds the
>     individual collections should be a 4-mil plastic bag with a
>     _sealed_ top.  A sealed top can be accomplished using a
>     heat sealer to seal top (no folds or wrinkles) and testing
>     that seal by pressing on the bag and checking for air escape.  If
>     a heat sealer is not available, the top can be tightly twisted,
>     folded over and tied off with string (not rubber bands.)  I  have
>     successfully used this twist top seal on bags of specimens fixing
>     in formalin and transported out of the field.  Attached is a pdf
>     demonstrating the seal.
>
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>     Alexandra M Snyder, Collections Manager-Fishes
>
>     Museum of Southwestern Biology MSC03-2020
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