[Nhcoll-l] jar lids
Dirk Neumann
dirk.neumann at zsm.mwn.de
Wed Feb 28 06:51:37 EST 2018
Agree with Erik- this is the easiest and most time efficient way. Would
be careful with too much underpressure in historic stopper jars, because
negative pressure puts strong physical stress especially on the glass
neck of stoppered jars. Would do this only with industry lids.
Even then, pickle jars with large opening diameters (> 10 cm) are
difficult to open if the underpressure is too high; you would then have
to lift the lid with a knife or similar to release the underpressure -
and in doing so - scratch the lid (which will then starts rusting).
All the best
Dirk
Am 28.02.2018 um 11:14 schrieb Erik Åhlander:
>
> Dear Fabian,
>
> We keep an old collection with a multitude of different kind of jars.
> Today we use mostly cheap glass jars made for food industry with twist
> off metal lids with plastic linen (excellent for ethanol, bad for
> formalin), but we have glass jars from the early 19^th century, jars
> with gaskets etc. etc.. Through keeping the temperature in the store
> rooms at least 3-4 degrees (Centigrade) lower compared with the lab,
> we reach this under-pressure without any special jar solutions. We
> have a very low evaporation from the jars now.
>
> Best wishes,
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> Hi,
>
> I’m working on a huge restauration project involving over 1000 jars
> (Ichthyology collection)that have to be resealed or replaced because
> most of them are broken. After long research and discussion whit lots
> of museum taxidermist colleagues if come to the conclusion that the
> best sealed jar is one with negative pressure, like marmalade jar. The
> negative pressure can be reached in an desiccator or a foodsealing
> machine. We are trying here at the museum to get a big vacuum-chamber
> to pressurize lots of jars at the same time.
>
> Studies of a colleague have proved that with this method there is
> almost no loss of liquid. Off course the best would be to use the boro
> silicate jars, but still this method gives good results in normal
> natrum-soda jars. Sadly the article on this subject is in german.
>
> Any suggestions or comments on the subject of vacuuming jars?
>
> Thanks,
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> *An:* Jean-Marc Gagnon; Mike Rutherford; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
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> *Betreff:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] jar lids
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> Good morning Jean-Marc, Mike & Andy!
>
> We have metal lids since the 1990ies in our collection. At the moment,
> I occasionally have to replace those which have and additional PE foil
> originally thought and introduced to improve the closure. In fact it
> traps condensates and accelerates deterioration (rusting ) of lids.
>
> As we have huge troubles with our climate control systems since
> several years (system dates back to 1985 and never worked properly,
> leading to RH shift btw. 80-30 %, yesterday I was even below 30% ..)
> and temperature shifts ranging from 16-24°C, metal lids in our
> collection are all but under stable, controlled conditions. Adding to
> this, we have the quite aggressive ketone MEK as denaturant. Still,
> the metal lids do fine, and our observations in Munich largely agree
> with observations Emily Dock made in Stockholm. (Warén, A., E.
> Dock-Åkerman, and H. Taylor. 2010. Metal-lid jars in museum
> collections? /Collection Forum/ 24(1-2):52-61.)
>
> Perhaps there is a difference in industry norms or production
> standards between North America and Europe ? I know the Steigerwald &
> Laframboise paper, but the question of taping all jars (and re-doing
> all taping once the jars are opened) is a simple cost-benefit
> question: a metal lid is less then 10 cent and replacing a lid is less
> then 5 seconds, re-doing the taping takes 1-2 minutes plus tape costs.
> We have a rather small, but heavily frequented collection, so
> replacing metal lids is the cheaper option for us.
>
> My observation is that PP-lids with PE-liners do fine up to 45 mm neck
> opening. Above that (50 mm), closures are not that good and jars show
> increased evaporation issues. So our strategy at the moment is:
> PP-lids with PE-Liners for 100ml-300 ml jars (rarely 500-1000 with 50
> mmm necks), 1200-1700 ml jars with metal lids and above only
> borosilicate with plane or ground stopper closures (typical sizes are
> 300 mm x 80 mm and 300 x 150 mm for flanged and 400 x 150 mm & 600 x
> 200 mm for stoppered).
>
> Mike's question was to replace metal lids for jars which were designed
> for metal lids. Because of the narrow threads of those jars and the
> fact that opening would be rather wide (if I understood Mike's
> question correctly), I doubt that PP-screw on lids for diameters above
> 50 mm would be a could replacement. Independent of this I definitely
> agree that replacement of entire jars (compromised metal lids in jars
> with necks up to 50 mm in diameter) with jars with PP-lids would be a
> good idea. Depending on the climatic conditions inside storage. PP
> lids with PE liners are surely a much better oxygen barrier compared
> to PVC.-lids, but still allow diffusion of oxygen. Metal lids have a
> better performance in this regard.
>
> In the end there are several trade-offs and no straight forwards
> solution, I guess.
>
> All the best
> Dirk
>
>
> Am 27.02.2018 um 21:41 schrieb Jean-Marc Gagnon:
>
> Dirk,
>
> I was a little surprised by your response, promoting metal lids as
> opposed to Polypropylene lids. We (at CMN) have not had any
> success with metal lids, even with what seems to be reasonable,
> ethanol-resistant liners. Even the metal lids designed for Mason
> Jars, commonly used for preserves in North America, will rust
> after a while.
>
> In all our fluid-preserved collections, we have been using with
> great success Polypropylene lids for decades (of course, with two
> full tread turns), along with the F217 PE liner and sealing tape
> (see Steigerwald and Laframboise (1996). TAPE APPLICATION: A JAR
> SEALING METHOD FOR REDUCING ETHANOL EVAPORATION IN FLUID-PRESERVED
> COLLECTIONS. Collection Forum Volume 12, Number 2).
>
> While we haven’t quantitatively measured that success, I can tell
> you that in our wet Mollusc Collection, prior to 2002, we would
> have many jars needing retopping after only a few years (they
> often only had the PP lids with no liner or tape). But after
> applying the standard I described above in 2002, we literally
> haven’t had to retop the ethanol in any of the jars in the past
> 15-16 years.
>
> Is it always perfect: No. But we have had very little failure in
> these lids and liners. The tape is always reapplied fresh if a jar
> needs to be open; it is relatively inexpensive (from Spectape
> Inc.) so that I not an issue.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> Jean-Marc
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> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] jar lids
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> Dear Mike,
>
> depending on the climatic conditions inside you storage area and
> the holding fluid the specimens are stored in rusting of lids can
> be a major issue of course. However, because of the narrow thread
> of twist-off jars, I am not entirely sure of the metal lids can be
> easily replaced with plastic lids. The latter usually need higher
> threads because plastic lids tend to be deformed when screwed
> tight. This is the reason why jars with plastic lids normally have
> two fully closed thread turns, compared to jars with metal lids
> which usually only have half thread turns.
>
> Moreover, plastic lids (e.g. PE or PP lids) do not form a good
> barrier against oxygen, and changing lids might increase or
> trigger oxidation issues inside jars.
>
> My advice would be to look into modern metal lids designed for
> food industry to close jars with sour ingredients (compared to
> lids for sweet stuff such as jam or honey); these usually have
> thicker liners inside which protect lids against scratching. Also
> made bad experiences with (self-designed) PE-foil inlays, an
> earlier curator introduced in our collection: the foil is no good
> barrier against compounds evaporation from holding fluids, but a
> perfect trap to hold condensates inside a tiny, highly corrosive
> atmosphere lid and foil which tends to accelerate deterioration of
> metal lids.
>
> Might be worth to check in the food sector for replacement lids or
> inquire such suppliers where to find 130mm lids.
>
> All the best
> Dirk
>
> Am 21.02.2018 um 21:57 schrieb Mike Rutherford:
>
> Hi,
>
> I’m trying to source large polypropylene screw top lids for
> some glass jars I have in my museum. The jars are wide mouthed
> and squat, making them ideal for those weird shaped specimens
> but the current lids are thin metal ones which are corroding
> badly. My previous source for lids was Carolina Biological
> Supplies but their maximum size of lid is 120mm diameter and I
> need ones of 130mm diameter.
>
> Can anyone suggest a supplier, preferably in the western
> hemisphere?
>
> Cheers,
>
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