[Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens
Bentley, Andrew Charles
abentley at ku.edu
Tue Aug 13 12:16:59 EDT 2019
Nathalie
I agree with Tom. Unless you have any desires to remove DNA from any of the specimens post preservation then there is no worry with "sharing" preservative. Here at KU we use the stainless steel tanks and do not label specimens. Instead we just tie a tag to the specimen with the catalog number (and tissue number if appropriate). We try not to overfill tanks (more than about 75%) to avoid overcrowding and damage to specimens through compression. I also think that Tom's bag technique could be used to keep multiple parts of specimens together or lots of specimens as in fishes.
Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of DjanChekar, Nathalie
Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2019 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens
A tangent on this topic...
For the first time, we recently purchased stainless steel tanks for the storage of several large specimens. To optimize space and cost, we would like to store several specimens (not necessarily of the same taxa) per tank. The questions that we're struggling with are:
- Should we be concerned with several specimens "sharing" preservative? If so, how can we isolate them from one another?
- Should we be concerned about compression? If so, how do we prevent it?
- Some specimens are fragile, with loose parts, how do we protect them and keep everything together, including labels?
Thanks for your sharing your expertise and experience!
Nathalie
Nathalie Djan-Chékar - Natural History Collections Manager
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From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: August-08-19 4:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens
Numerous reasons:
1. Shipping cost for us would be exorbitant
2. Shelving - we do not have spaces that can accommodate such large (tall) jars
3. Safety - I can only imagine how unstable one of those would be in pour part of the world.
We mainly use stainless steel tanks for long term storage of large specimens.
Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:44 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens
... just out of curiosity:
the largest polycarbonate container, item 107-1222, 14,78'' x 15'' (roughly 37 x 38 cm ) costs 328.90 U$ (293,45 EUR). The borosilicate jar I recently purchased to accommodate our new black-tip reef shark measures 120 cm x 20 cm (approx. 47'' x 7,90'') and costs 291,00 EUR.
Apparently the polycarbonate containers are more expensive then high quality borosilicate jars. Why not preferring borosilicate ?
All the best
Dirk
Am 08.08.2019 um 17:03 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
Tonya
Our herpetology collection has been experimenting with these in the collection for short to medium term storage. They seal fairly well, are relatively inexpensive (and light to ship) and have the added benefit of being clear so that you can see contents and fluid levels. They come in various sizes and tack fairly well:
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Hope that helps
Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu><mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Sent: Thursday, August 8, 2019 1:47 AM
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] buckets for specimens
Hi all,
I need to order some buckets for storing larger fluid-preserved specimens in. Eventually we would like to go to stainless steel containers, but right now that's not an option.... Anyway, I am wondering if polypropylene buckets are acceptable in terms of archival quality (I realise they will eventually fail) and if not, if anyone has a better recommendation for a relatively cheap solution?
Thanks!
Tonya
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