From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Fri Oct  2 11:03:58 2020
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 15:03:58 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Insect sticky detector traps
Message-ID: <cd9c88770def41e7b27b5841ac2640eb@loodusmuuseum.ee>

Hi!

I started using sticky traps to etect pests in collection and exhibition.
I wonder how long will those last before I have to Exchange them.
At the moment I am testing two of them for crawling insects and one for flying:
https://www.preservationequipment.com/Catalogue/Disaster-Cleaning/Insect-Pest-Traps/insect-monitor-Window-Trap
https://www.preservationequipment.com/Catalogue/Disaster-Cleaning/Insect-Pest-Traps/Insect-Sticky-Detector-Trap
https://www.preservationequipment.com/Catalogue/Disaster-Cleaning/Insect-Pest-Traps/Fabric-Insect-Trap-2

Best!
Lennart
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From glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu  Fri Oct  2 12:12:13 2020
From: glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu (Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2020 16:12:13 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Insect sticky detector traps
In-Reply-To: <cd9c88770def41e7b27b5841ac2640eb@loodusmuuseum.ee>
References: <cd9c88770def41e7b27b5841ac2640eb@loodusmuuseum.ee>
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Hello Lennart,

As long as they are sticky you are ok. I recommend in our institution we change every 6 months for sticky traps with no pheromones/food lures as by then the glue has often started to melt or they are too dusty. We also change them more frequently if there are a number of pests or if they are dusty. Too many insects in the traps can attract and be food for other insects.

Another good resource on pest management in museums is https://museumpests.net/ and the email list similar to this called the Pestlist.

Best wishes,
Genevieve

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Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
Senior Curatorial Technician
Harvard University Herbaria
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 11:04 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Insect sticky detector traps

Hi!

I started using sticky traps to etect pests in collection and exhibition.
I wonder how long will those last before I have to Exchange them.
At the moment I am testing two of them for crawling insects and one for flying:
https://www.preservationequipment.com/Catalogue/Disaster-Cleaning/Insect-Pest-Traps/insect-monitor-Window-Trap<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.preservationequipment.com_Catalogue_Disaster-2DCleaning_Insect-2DPest-2DTraps_insect-2Dmonitor-2DWindow-2DTrap&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=AW8-eJC6jk1AZx5rwIEfZrpbhOsV4eMkKMPYbk4P7Dk&s=vfb_U9kKFbKLozivF8B6cx0shXSSPo18eTD08oY0Y-8&e=>
https://www.preservationequipment.com/Catalogue/Disaster-Cleaning/Insect-Pest-Traps/Insect-Sticky-Detector-Trap<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.preservationequipment.com_Catalogue_Disaster-2DCleaning_Insect-2DPest-2DTraps_Insect-2DSticky-2DDetector-2DTrap&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=AW8-eJC6jk1AZx5rwIEfZrpbhOsV4eMkKMPYbk4P7Dk&s=Xj0o1drnsdOOTra6UQ8lLamGsnmzc0EC0AJVp5vCHms&e=>
https://www.preservationequipment.com/Catalogue/Disaster-Cleaning/Insect-Pest-Traps/Fabric-Insect-Trap-2<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.preservationequipment.com_Catalogue_Disaster-2DCleaning_Insect-2DPest-2DTraps_Fabric-2DInsect-2DTrap-2D2&d=DwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=AW8-eJC6jk1AZx5rwIEfZrpbhOsV4eMkKMPYbk4P7Dk&s=ohDQ8gSbSogpi_eFZSAlU7PvEG5F318_8uV5ckRx6NA&e=>

Best!
Lennart
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From liathappleton at gmail.com  Sun Oct  4 21:14:23 2020
From: liathappleton at gmail.com (Liath Appleton)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2020 20:14:23 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] SPNHC Connection fall newsletter is online
Message-ID: <CAEf=rq9+VHWcUafE6r=uSmYUSnwaiQq_GVRr-i3OVDTinxiUtg@mail.gmail.com>

The fall edition of the SPNHC Connection newsletter is available online.
Log in at spnhc.org and go to
https://spnhc.org/resources/?fwp_resources=newsletter

The SPNHC Connection newsletter is published twice a year. It contains
reports from the Society?s officers and committees, news items, and other
articles of general interest to the membership.

You must be logged in as an active member to view the link. If you aren't
an active member, why not? Go to spnhc.org and join us today!

Liath Appleton
Collections Manager
Non-Vertebrate Paleontology Lab
University of Texas at Austin
Bldg PRC122 - campus mail code R8500
10100 Burnet Road
Austin, TX 78758

SPNHC Connection Editor (newsletter at spnhc.org)
SPNHC Web Manager (webmaster at spnhc.org)
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From emily.braker at colorado.edu  Mon Oct  5 12:29:15 2020
From: emily.braker at colorado.edu (Emily M. Braker)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 16:29:15 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] October 13th Arctos Webinar - New Collections Onboarding
Message-ID: <DM5PR03MB3292118BDC2B5302FEF16B9EE00C0@DM5PR03MB3292.namprd03.prod.outlook.com>

Please join us for an Arctos webinar on the new collections onboarding process.

Abstract: Joining the Arctos Community means meeting new collaborators, learning new skills, and a lot of data clean-up. Whether you joined five years ago, last week, plan to join soon, or want to help mentor new members, this webinar will help explain the process we have set up to help new members of the Arctos Community get their collections up and running. Learn why we use GitHub, how to best get help, who has the answers and where to find documentation. Onboarding never really ends, even our most senior community members are adding new types of collections data. The process that we use for onboarding extends into daily Arctos Community life, so the practices that you pick up during onboarding can serve you well into the future. Hope to see everyone at this webinar!

Presenter: Teresa Mayfield-Meyer, New Mexico Museum of Natural History & Science

When:  Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:00pm ET

Where: https://cuboulder.zoom.us/j/97020047644

Can't Make It?: View archived recordings here https://arctosdb.org/learn/webinars/<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1uQiH59boCAICH7bYditYArQ7fftxegaeEsgJDD0lqlu_TAZYM9aNu4NAstdhE6JTxX9tAgAOnPttFYQleGT3g8HU7OCYTt7YEal59EZDPH7xY6B-XgKUAqq1XX8tzNc7ajryJ5T_MZT6Fid4hzAaHreIpe6iO_1SVwTivraL61PwCRiNV_t23LxxRgTnzZWrP8wc2o9hvKEty_2U20CaEnliceylR9-goVopZSERd8_urMPXEEnnk6pWxCf26jE-Lrx9OHdSKb2KsIxewqmNVtlVS_yFuR3Vjrc984TxA5jrzMdn7i-g_tzkaMaWCt21jHv5qB8-Zx5xdYvO4OQlpK7WgV3QfrYAdBfpaNm34Pz2Ot_p0ialCnSf8MfMi3HBJ84Rer6kEjQCUxF4hnQusxDHxKp6hidjdId_HvHeUDBywIcfez42JzW-2GSV220UCME-qeNnAgTX0De39qfWEA/https%3A%2F%2Farctosdb.org%2Flearn%2Fwebinars%2F>

Emily Braker
Vertebrate Collections Manager, Zoology Section
University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
265 UCB, Bruce Curtis Building
Boulder, CO 80309-0218
Phone: 303-492-8466
http://www.colorado.edu/cumuseum/research-collections/vertebrates

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From info at arcsinfo.org  Mon Oct  5 21:00:00 2020
From: info at arcsinfo.org (ARCS)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 21:00:00 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] #ARCSchat Mid-Career Perspectives October 6 at 1pm ET &
 Database Blues Webinar November 4 Registration Now Open ARCS Update Vol 5 |
 Update 17
Message-ID: <CACgsus6WiFMuKarcFwWyirgx1DZxxQjkW3ds9+QGj=-ExB+3VA@mail.gmail.com>

***#ARCSchat October 6 at 1:00 p.m. ET: Career Perspectives Mid-Career
Professionals***
In order to better understand how we move forward with our careers,
sometimes we have to look back. AND, sometimes, we also have to look
sideways. Consequently, #ARCSchat in October would like to unveil a new
series this season called "Career Perspectives" where we hold a roundtable
discussion with our professional colleagues about their own careers at
various stages: emerging museum professionals, mid-career, and late-career.

On October 6 at 1:00 p.m. ET, we begin with three mid-career professionals,
representing different types of collections from different parts of the
world, about how they got into the field, what their expectations were at
the beginning, and what their expectations are now and going forward.

Join the chat live here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/AssociationofRegistrarsandCollectionsSpecialists

Joining us will be:
-Kaia Black: Special Projects and Programs Manager at the National Portrait
Gallery in Washington, D.C.
-Jen Kaines: Head of Collection Services at Royal Armouries, Leeds, UK
-Chakira Santiago: Chief Registrar at the Museum of History, Anthropology,
and Art at the University of Puerto Rico, San Juan.

Additionally, we are always looking for you to share your interesting
collections stories with us for the podcast-only segment "A Day in the
Life". Submit a recording (recording on your phone is fine) of your unique
collections experience to:
info at arcsinfo.org or call 847-440-4294 and leave a message with your story.

Tell us:
1. Who you are
2. Where you work (or worked at the time of the story)
3. Your unique experience

***Webinar Database Blues: An Action Plan for Selection and Implementation
of a New CMS - Registration Now Open!***
Does the mere thought of opening your current database program give you
chills? Are you tired of creating your own little hacks to make your system
?work? the way you need it to? Have you longed for a new and upgraded CMS,
but worry your management will balk at the mere mention of such change?
Please join us for a webinar focused exclusively on selecting and
implementing a new database for museum collections. On November 4 at 1:00
p.m. ET, museum expert and consultant Rachael Cristine Woody will cover how
to identify CMS needs, how to create CMS specifications, how to test and
vet potential CMS options, and how to ?sell? getting a new CMS to your boss.

Fees:
Members: $25.00
Non-Members: $35.00

Register Here-
http://www.arcsinfo.org/news-events/event/1330/0/arcs-database-blues-an-action-plan-for-selection-and-implementation-of-a-new-cms

***Webinar Registration Giveaway***
ARCS is also excited to announce another free giveaway to all active
members of ARCS! This month we are giving away one free registration to our
upcoming webinar, ARCS Database Blues on November 4, 2020 at 1:00 p.m. ET.

To register for the giveaway, please log-in to your ARCSInfo.org account
and, after confirming or updating your membership profile, click on the
?Enter Here to Win a Free Webinar Registration!? button that appears on the
Manage Your Profile Page.

Registrations must be submitted by October 30, 2020.

Questions? Contact info at arcsinfo.org.

Enter to win here-http://www.arcsinfo.org/membership/manage-your-profile

***ARCS Conference Materials - Public Access Extended Through October 31,
2020***
ARCS is pleased to announce that public free access to conference materials
has been extended through October 31, 2020.

2019 Philadelphia Presentations and Recordings-
http://www.arcsinfo.org/programs/2019-conference/presentations-and-recordings
2017 Vancouver Presentation and Recordings-
http://www.arcsinfo.org/programs/2017-vancouver-conference/presentations-and-audio-recordings
2015 News Orleans Presentations and Recordings -
http://www.arcsinfo.org/programs/2015-conference/presentations-and-audio-recordings

Normally a benefit for being a member of ARCS and originally opened back in
March, public access will continue through the end of the month for our
community to learn and enjoy.
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From bthiers at nybg.org  Tue Oct  6 10:01:46 2020
From: bthiers at nybg.org (Thiers, Barbara)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 14:01:46 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Submit your nominations for SPNHC Awards!
Message-ID: <BLAPR22MB21323CF9643936C73A44C65CCF0D0@BLAPR22MB2132.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

The SPNHC Recognition and Grants Committee invites nominations for the following:

The Carolyn L. Rose Award - Our Society's highest honor, given to a practitioner (SPNHC membership not required) whose work and efforts have promoted the values and objectives of the Society.  Nominations should include a letter of nomination, a current curriculum vitae and letters of recommendation.

The President's Award --  Presented to a member or former member of SPNHC whose activities have furthered the objectives of the Society through outstanding committee work, prolonged officer roles or promotion of activities of the Society. Nominations should include a letter of nomination, a current curriculum vitae and letters of recommendation.

Honorary Membership --  Can be conferred by Council in recognition of outstanding contributions to natural history collections or to the Society.  Honorary Members has all the rights and privileges of regular members.

The Vendor Recognition Award -- Is presented to commercial entities to recognize long-term support of the Society and/or the Society's annual meetings.  Nominations  should include a letter of recommendation highlighting evidence of contributions.

Questions and nominations should be directed to the Chair of the Recognition and Grants Committee, Barbara M. Thiers (bthiers at nybg.org<mailto:bthiers at nybg.org>) and must be submitted by 15 November 2020.

Dr. Barbara M. Thiers
Vice President
Patricia K. Holmgren Director of the William and Lynda Steere Herbarium
Curator of Bryophytes
Editor, Index Herbariorum
President-Elect, American Society of Plant Taxonomists
New York Botanical Garden
Bronx, NY 10458-5126
bthiers at nybg.org<mailto:bthiers at nybg.org>
718-817-8626

Download:
The World's Herbaria 2019<http://sweetgum.nybg.org/science/docs/The_Worlds_Herbaria_2019.pdf> (Index Herbariorum annual report)
Index Herbariorum Registration Form
<http://sweetgum.nybg.org/science/docs/IH_Registration_Form_2017.docx>Index Herbariorum Registration Form Example<http://sweetgum.nybg.org/science/docs/IH_Registration_Form_2017_Example.docx>


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From PALMERL at si.edu  Tue Oct  6 14:44:06 2020
From: PALMERL at si.edu (Palmer, Lisa)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 18:44:06 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: HENTF members: Reach out re: Hurricane Delta
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fyi

From: Foley, Lori <lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 6, 2020 2:38 PM

Please share this important message with your colleagues and constituents in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida!

HENTF members,

As you know, Hurricane Delta is on the move. Now is the time to reach out to your colleagues and members in the Gulf states that could be impacted - Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida - to remind them that preparations should be underway.


According to the National Hurricane Center, there is an increasing likelihood of life-threatening storm surge and dangerous hurricane-force winds, especially along the coasts of Louisiana and Mississippi, beginning on Friday. Residents in these areas should ensure they have their hurricane plan in place and monitor updates to the Delta forecast.

And the same applies to cultural institutions and arts organizations.

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Preparedness tips for cultural stewards - in Word and as a PDF - are available here<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fculturalrescue.si.edu%2Fhentf%2Fresources%2Ffederal-resources-cultural-stewards-and-emergency-managers%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087159771&sdata=%2Fdmeec3oY8ZBlviCjbxL1v1lD4Dw0SysX7YylcHX3E8%3D&reserved=0> from the Heritage Emergency National Task Force. These tips can also be found on the HENTF dashboard<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffema.connectsolutions.com%2Fhentf%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087159771&sdata=EbD7Mu7QeXprzAMLa7DpFLABzRlpiJihXhtTypQJulI%3D&reserved=0>, which will furnish key messages and graphics from the National Hurricane Center through the weekend. However, for the most up-to-date information, HENTF encourages you and your constituents to:

  *   Track the storm via the National Hurricane Center, http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhc.noaa.gov%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087169767&sdata=6TPiQWISN0ec4TlZd3p8TkwU7QNTykRqUHEXb23wLfM%3D&reserved=0>.
  *   Monitor products issued by your local National Weather Service forecast office <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.weather.gov%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087169767&sdata=TJx3UEs2FtPQI4TkvnaG9P%2BCQ7poJxjOrN%2F%2FgJnLEmo%3D&reserved=0> for storm.
  *   Monitor information via your state emergency management agency/public safety office<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhs.gov%2Fstate-homeland-security-and-emergency-services&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087169767&sdata=aIY9AHAHnF2nir1BJYnDyKxBf06LcpJf517X%2FJ4dEkk%3D&reserved=0>.
  *   Keep this 24/7 hotline number handy: 202.661.8068. The National Heritage Responders, a team of trained conservators and collections care professionals, are available 24/7 to provide advice.
  *   Download FEMA fact sheets "After the Flood: Advice for Salvaging Damaged Family Treasures" and "Salvaging Water-Damaged Family Valuables and Heirlooms," available at https://www.fema.gov/media-collection/heritage-emergency-national-task-force<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fema.gov%2Fmedia-collection%2Fheritage-emergency-national-task-force&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087179764&sdata=BgJ5PQZzCWwQoZLb9YJGbwdDl%2FanDZV9ffXzE3U2NZs%3D&reserved=0>.

Thank you for encouraging your members and constituents to prepare.

With appreciation,
Lori

Lori Foley
Coordinator | Heritage Emergency National Task Force
Office of Environmental Planning & Historic Preservation
Federal Insurance and Mitigation Administration
Mobile: (202) 826-6303
lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov<mailto:lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov>
culturalrescue.si.edu/hentf<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fculturalrescue.si.edu%2Fhentf%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087179764&sdata=qCsQt7%2BHn4f2FAdrqhW4XMqWMPYTqDueT1ivrq0anBw%3D&reserved=0>

Federal Emergency Management Agency
fema.gov<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fema.gov%2F&data=02%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C94026bf14c4348f3e44d08d86a27037b%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376063087189760&sdata=DEu8K99NVq1YC1VL83nC4OHk0wPyLsWbLq2n6TLtH0U%3D&reserved=0>
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From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Wed Oct  7 03:28:41 2020
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 07:28:41 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections
Message-ID: <f686a452ee3d40a2af2c7647b1f4baac@loodusmuuseum.ee>

Hi!

Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection ? is it safe for stuffed collections?
I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can taxidermist use and what to avoid?

Best regards!

Lennart Lennuk
Head of zoology
Estonian Museum of Natural History
+372 6603404, 56569916



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From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Wed Oct  7 05:32:58 2020
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 09:32:58 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] polypropylen glycol use in fluid-preserving
Message-ID: <1d1f2ad8799f4e3cabf2e00081717285@loodusmuuseum.ee>

Dear fluid-preserving specialists,

Our entomoloogist brought me a bat that had been trapped into insect trap.
He uses polypropylen glycol for the traps. I found it has quite the same properties that ethanol in this paper:
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/eea.12876

What should I do with this bat ? put it into polypropylen glycol or wash it in ethanol with washing steps until reaching 70% and preserve it in ethanol?


Best regards!

Lennart Lennuk
Head of zoology
Estonian Museum of Natural History
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From Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de  Wed Oct  7 05:40:25 2020
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Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2020 11:40:25 +0200
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Hi Lennart,

it is surely  not really dangerous (for the objects and the people) -
but it probably not durable for a long time.
After 20 ... 30 years it becomes soft and crumbly.

It is not for eternity - but our collections should be.

Cheers
Joachim




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of the Martin-Luther-University
- Entomological Collection -

Domplatz 4
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Germany

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Fax:  +49 345 - 55 27 248
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    Hi!
 
 Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection
? is it safe for stuffed collections?
 I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can
taxidermist use and what to avoid?
  
 Best regards!
  
 Lennart Lennuk
 Head of zoology
 Estonian Museum of Natural History
 +372 6603404, 56569916
  
  
  
 
   
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From couteaufin at btinternet.com  Wed Oct  7 09:25:16 2020
From: couteaufin at btinternet.com (Simon Moore)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 14:25:16 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed
 collections
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Yes, I have found the same thing - foxes with legs that contain just the armature wire as the polyurethane has literally crumbled away over the years.

With all good wishes, Simon.

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian, 



www.natural-history-conservation.com 




> On 7 Oct 2020, at 10:40, Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Lennart,
> 
> it is surely  not really dangerous (for the objects and the people) - but it probably not durable for a long time.
> After 20 ... 30 years it becomes soft and crumbly.
> 
> It is not for eternity - but our collections should be.
> 
> Cheers
> Joachim
> 
> 
> 
> --  
> Joachim Haendel
>                                                         
> Center of Natural SciencesCollections
> of the Martin-Luther-University
> - Entomological Collection -
> 
> Domplatz 4
> D-06099 Halle (Saale)
> Germany
> 
> Phone:  +49 345 - 55 26 447
> Fax:  +49 345 - 55 27 248
> Email: joachim.haendel at zns.uni-halle.de
> 
> 
> 
> >>> Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> 07.10.20 9.29 Uhr >>>
> Hi!
> 
> Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection ? is it safe for stuffed collections?
> I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can taxidermist use and what to avoid?
>  
> Best regards!
>  
> Lennart Lennuk
> Head of zoology
> Estonian Museum of Natural History
> +372 6603404, 56569916
>  
>  
>  
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From HawksC at si.edu  Wed Oct  7 10:11:01 2020
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 14:11:01 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed
 collections
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Primary ingredients in any polyurethane are isocyanates, which are known human carcinogens. They are part of what is off-gassed as the plastic cures. The urethane monomers in the plastic can also be hazardous if inhaled, ingested, or absorbed through skin, so could pose risks when the material deteriorates. 

Cathy

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To: Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections

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Yes, I have found the same thing - foxes with legs that contain just the armature wire as the polyurethane has literally crumbled away over the years.

With all good wishes, Simon.

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,



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> On 7 Oct 2020, at 10:40, Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Lennart,
>
> it is surely  not really dangerous (for the objects and the people) - but it probably not durable for a long time.
> After 20 ... 30 years it becomes soft and crumbly.
>
> It is not for eternity - but our collections should be.
>
> Cheers
> Joachim
>
>
>
> --
> Joachim Haendel
>
> Center of Natural SciencesCollections
> of the Martin-Luther-University
> - Entomological Collection -
>
> Domplatz 4
> D-06099 Halle (Saale)
> Germany
>
> Phone:  +49 345 - 55 26 447
> Fax:  +49 345 - 55 27 248
> Email: joachim.haendel at zns.uni-halle.de
>
>
>
> >>> Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> 07.10.20 9.29 Uhr 
> >>> >>>
> Hi!
>
> Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection ? is it safe for stuffed collections?
> I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can taxidermist use and what to avoid?
>
> Best regards!
>
> Lennart Lennuk
> Head of zoology
> Estonian Museum of Natural History
> +372 6603404, 56569916
>
>
>
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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Wed Oct  7 10:34:13 2020
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 14:34:13 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed
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Our experience with various urethane foams in donated collections is that they either crumble to dust, become sticky resins, or both. They certainly aren't as durable in taxidermy as things like horsehair or excelsior, which have the advantage of being as natural as the hides and horns. 


Paul Callomon MSc
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates

Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia
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From HawksC at si.edu  Wed Oct  7 10:49:15 2020
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-----Original Message-----
From: Giere, Peter <Peter.Giere at mfn.berlin> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 10:38 AM
To: Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu>
Subject: WG: [EXT] Re: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections

External Email - Exercise Caution

Hi Cathy,

I just saw your contribution  towards the discussion on the use of polyurethanes in taxidermy on NHCOll-l. Our preparators for the exhibitions use the same thing -- they told me, they are aware of the problems, when I approached them regarding the use of plastics and the longevity of specimens...

Now, speaking of plastics, I am part of an organising committee for an online conference on plastic conservation and management in museum collections

https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.museumfuernaturkunde.berlin%2Fde%2Fmuseum%2Fveranstaltungen%2Fvirtual-conference-plastics-peril&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chawksc%40si.edu%7C2784f2fb2a844e4c7a0f08d86acea7e3%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376783425487762&amp;sdata=6ukQ9hXlB2loFbtgeh%2Fv%2B4JllVuhkIsKqFt84hufYMI%3D&amp;reserved=0
 

This is not so much a problem for natural history collections but a much greater problem in cultural history collections, but we are facing big challenges if many boxes, liners or what have you fail at the same time. Thus, I will provide a case study of natural history collections on this conference.

I tried to have the announcement posted on NHColl, but I did not notice it being sent around. So here it is for you again, maybe you are interested?

With all the best wishes,

Peter
Here's the announcement:

+++++please excuse cross posting+++++

Dear colleague,

Plastics are found in museum collections in many different forms and for numerous purposes.

Due to the nature of these polymers, their life span is very limited, resulting in conservation challenges especially in the long term preservation of collection objects.

Addressing this topic, the University of Cambridge Museums and the Leibniz Research Museums Deutsches Museum, Deutsches Bergbau Museum and Museum f?r Naturkunde Berlin are pleased to announce a joint conference:

"Plastics in Peril: Focus on Conservation of Polymeric Materials in Cultural Heritage"

held online November 16-19, 2020 (https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.museumfuernaturkunde.berlin%2Fde%2Fmuseum%2Fveranstaltungen%2Fvirtual-conference-plastics-peril&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chawksc%40si.edu%7C2784f2fb2a844e4c7a0f08d86acea7e3%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376783425497723&amp;sdata=Qo1yA3uogwEAhmQODKI%2BNFU0Xe7cErjfTO6dkC0kL3o%3D&amp;reserved=0).

The conference will discuss real-life approaches to caring for plastics in our museums, focusing on practical solutions and on sharing experiences.

Please find attached the flyer and programme of this conference with more information.

Registration is free (https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsurvey.naturkundemuseum-berlin.de%2Fen%2Fplastics_in_peril_reg&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chawksc%40si.edu%7C2784f2fb2a844e4c7a0f08d86acea7e3%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376783425497723&amp;sdata=aqYuhWxqpiamWJiKhofLrQ2%2F0aCYxOM0SQjkDveSrxo%3D&amp;reserved=0).

We look forward to seeing you at the conference and kindly ask you help us disseminating this event within your network.

The Plastics Crew



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Dr. Peter Giere
Head, Centre of Collections
Curator of the Embryological Collection
Museum f?r Naturkunde
Leibniz Institute for Evolution and Biodiversity Science

NEW CONTACT DATA:
phone:  +49-(0)30-889140-8703
fax:    +49-(0)30-889140-8868
e-mail:         peter.giere(at)mfn.berlin
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10115 Berlin
Germany
Schatzmeister, Deutsche Gesellschaft f?r S?ugetierkunde Treasurer, German Society for Mammalian Biology
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-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] Im Auftrag von Hawks, Catharine
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2020 16:11
An: Simon Moore; Joachim H?ndel
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu; Lennart Lennuk
Betreff: [EXT] Re: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections

Primary ingredients in any polyurethane are isocyanates, which are known human carcinogens. They are part of what is off-gassed as the plastic cures. The urethane monomers in the plastic can also be hazardous if inhaled, ingested, or absorbed through skin, so could pose risks when the material deteriorates.

Cathy

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:25 AM
To: Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de>
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu; Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections

External Email - Exercise Caution

Yes, I have found the same thing - foxes with legs that contain just the armature wire as the polyurethane has literally crumbled away over the years.

With all good wishes, Simon.

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,



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> On 7 Oct 2020, at 10:40, Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Lennart,
>
> it is surely  not really dangerous (for the objects and the people) - but it probably not durable for a long time.
> After 20 ... 30 years it becomes soft and crumbly.
>
> It is not for eternity - but our collections should be.
>
> Cheers
> Joachim
>
>
>
> --
> Joachim Haendel
>
> Center of Natural SciencesCollections
> of the Martin-Luther-University
> - Entomological Collection -
>
> Domplatz 4
> D-06099 Halle (Saale)
> Germany
>
> Phone:  +49 345 - 55 26 447
> Fax:  +49 345 - 55 27 248
> Email: joachim.haendel at zns.uni-halle.de
>
>
>
> >>> Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> 07.10.20 9.29 Uhr
> >>> >>>
> Hi!
>
> Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection ? is it safe for stuffed collections?
> I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can taxidermist use and what to avoid?
>
> Best regards!
>
> Lennart Lennuk
> Head of zoology
> Estonian Museum of Natural History
> +372 6603404, 56569916
>
>
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From AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org  Thu Oct  8 13:27:52 2020
From: AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org (Anderson, Gretchen)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 17:27:52 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed
 collections
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Polyurethane deteriorates over time

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> On Oct 7, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu> wrote:
>
> ?Primary ingredients in any polyurethane are isocyanates, which are known human carcinogens. They are part of what is off-gassed as the plastic cures. The urethane monomers in the plastic can also be hazardous if inhaled, ingested, or absorbed through skin, so could pose risks when the material deteriorates.
>
> Cathy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Simon Moore
> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:25 AM
> To: Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de>
> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu; Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections
>
> External Email - Exercise Caution
>
> Yes, I have found the same thing - foxes with legs that contain just the armature wire as the polyurethane has literally crumbled away over the years.
>
> With all good wishes, Simon.
>
> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>> On 7 Oct 2020, at 10:40, Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Lennart,
>>
>> it is surely  not really dangerous (for the objects and the people) - but it probably not durable for a long time.
>> After 20 ... 30 years it becomes soft and crumbly.
>>
>> It is not for eternity - but our collections should be.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Joachim
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Joachim Haendel
>>
>> Center of Natural SciencesCollections
>> of the Martin-Luther-University
>> - Entomological Collection -
>>
>> Domplatz 4
>> D-06099 Halle (Saale)
>> Germany
>>
>> Phone:  +49 345 - 55 26 447
>> Fax:  +49 345 - 55 27 248
>> Email: joachim.haendel at zns.uni-halle.de
>>
>>
>>
>>>>> Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> 07.10.20 9.29 Uhr
>>>>>>>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection ? is it safe for stuffed collections?
>> I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can taxidermist use and what to avoid?
>>
>> Best regards!
>>
>> Lennart Lennuk
>> Head of zoology
>> Estonian Museum of Natural History
>> +372 6603404, 56569916
>>
>>
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From AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org  Thu Oct  8 13:30:44 2020
From: AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org (Anderson, Gretchen)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 17:30:44 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed
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Polyurethane is not stable, and as mentioned by several others on this post it will degrade and crumble in as little as 10 years. Not a recommended material.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 8, 2020, at 12:27 PM, Anderson, Gretchen <AndersonG at carnegiemnh.org> wrote:
>
> ?Polyurethane deteriorates over time
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 7, 2020, at 9:11 AM, Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu> wrote:
>>
>> ?Primary ingredients in any polyurethane are isocyanates, which are known human carcinogens. They are part of what is off-gassed as the plastic cures. The urethane monomers in the plastic can also be hazardous if inhaled, ingested, or absorbed through skin, so could pose risks when the material deteriorates.
>>
>> Cathy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Simon Moore
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 9:25 AM
>> To: Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de>
>> Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu; Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee>
>> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Antw: is polyurethane hazardous for stuffed collections
>>
>> External Email - Exercise Caution
>>
>> Yes, I have found the same thing - foxes with legs that contain just the armature wire as the polyurethane has literally crumbled away over the years.
>>
>> With all good wishes, Simon.
>>
>> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
>> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
>>
>>
>>
>> https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.natural-history-conservation.com%2F&amp;data=02%7C01%7Chawksc%40si.edu%7Ce7ab19ceb3eb491abe6b08d86ac4736e%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637376739272740544&amp;sdata=L%2ByTrLyzPxOdc4ME2td5m0c8aqsT8xuRJ5R5Jcz6u7w%3D&amp;reserved=0
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>>
>>
>>
>>>> On 7 Oct 2020, at 10:40, Joachim H?ndel <Joachim.Haendel at zns.uni-halle.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Lennart,
>>>
>>> it is surely  not really dangerous (for the objects and the people) - but it probably not durable for a long time.
>>> After 20 ... 30 years it becomes soft and crumbly.
>>>
>>> It is not for eternity - but our collections should be.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Joachim
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Joachim Haendel
>>>
>>> Center of Natural SciencesCollections
>>> of the Martin-Luther-University
>>> - Entomological Collection -
>>>
>>> Domplatz 4
>>> D-06099 Halle (Saale)
>>> Germany
>>>
>>> Phone:  +49 345 - 55 26 447
>>> Fax:  +49 345 - 55 27 248
>>> Email: joachim.haendel at zns.uni-halle.de
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>> Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> 07.10.20 9.29 Uhr
>>>>>>>>>
>>> Hi!
>>>
>>> Taxidermists have used polyurethane to stuff mammal and bird collection ? is it safe for stuffed collections?
>>> I read that it can give off acidic vapors (formaldehyde). What can taxidermist use and what to avoid?
>>>
>>> Best regards!
>>>
>>> Lennart Lennuk
>>> Head of zoology
>>> Estonian Museum of Natural History
>>> +372 6603404, 56569916
>>>
>>>
>>>
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From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Fri Oct  9 04:58:21 2020
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 08:58:21 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] safety cabinet fot chemicals
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Hi!

Is it okt o but safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. to fluid-preserved collection room?

Head!
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From couteaufin at btinternet.com  Fri Oct  9 05:02:48 2020
From: couteaufin at btinternet.com (Simon Moore)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 10:02:48 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] safety cabinet fot chemicals
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Hmm,
Didn?t quite understand the message but I presume that you?re asking about needing a safety cabinet to store formaldehyde and alcohol? This depends on your country?s regulations for storage of these fluids. In the UK we are required to store fluids that are carcinogenic / mutagenic / flammable / corrosive / toxic &c inside a special metal and lockable cabinet that has been painted with corrosion-resistant paint.

With all good wishes, Simon.

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian, 



www.natural-history-conservation.com 




> On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:58, Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
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> Is it okt o but safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. to fluid-preserved collection room?
>  
> Head!
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From amast at bio.fsu.edu  Fri Oct  9 15:22:14 2020
From: amast at bio.fsu.edu (Austin Mast)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 19:22:14 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Share your thoughts: Citizen Science Hour for
 Biodiversity Collections
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We are pleased to announce the development of a new, twice monthly event: Citizen Science Hour for Biodiversity Collections.

The goal of the event is to catalyze excellence in all forms of citizen science involving biodiversity collections by scheduling engaging speakers on high priority topics with time for group discussion.  The biodiversity collections community includes those organizations (natural history museums, universities, field stations, government agencies, etc.) curating such resources as insects on pins, plants on sheets, fish in jars, and fossils in drawers.  Topics could include online engagement tools, ethical considerations, the future of the field, data validation, resources from citizen science associations, citizen science in formal education settings, and much more.

All participants are welcomed, whatever their location on Earth, institutional setting, career stage, or credentials.  However, speakers will be asked to pitch their talk to an audience that has some affiliation with, or deep interest in, biodiversity collections.  And talks and conversations are likely to be in English.

Register your interest and express your priorities and preferences for this event at https://forms.gle/MsQgyQ2xfTtjJTxQ6

While completing the survey you can express an interest in joining the organizing committee. The event is being initiated by iDigBio, the US National Science Foundation's National Resource for Advancing Digitization of Biodiversity Collections.

And feel free to share this announcement with others.

With best regards,

Austin Mast (Florida State University) and Libby Elwood (University of Florida), co-organizers

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From neumann at snsb.de  Sat Oct 10 08:20:04 2020
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 14:20:04 +0200
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] safety cabinet fot chemicals
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Dear Lennart,

concur with Simon that the intention of your question remains a bit 
unclear, perhaps you could give us a bit more content?

Simonis right that storage of regulated chemicals usually requires 
specifically safety rated storage furniture; for the storage of jars in 
fluid storage, there are pros and cons regarding storage inside such 
cabinets (e.g. just to mention microclimats that may build up inside 
cabinets or more staff time needs to be considered for regular 
monitoring intervals) - so this really is wide field with a multitude of 
possible answers.

With best wishes
Dirk


Am 09.10.2020 um 11:02 schrieb Simon Moore:
> Hmm,
> Didn?t quite understand the message but I presume that you?re asking about needing a safety cabinet to store formaldehyde and alcohol? This depends on your country?s regulations for storage of these fluids. In the UK we are required to store fluids that are carcinogenic / mutagenic / flammable / corrosive / toxic &c inside a special metal and lockable cabinet that has been painted with corrosion-resistant paint.
>
> With all good wishes, Simon.
>
> Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
> Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,
>
>
>
> www.natural-history-conservation.com
>
>
>
>
>> On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:58, Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Is it okt o but safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. to fluid-preserved collection room?
>>   
>> Head!
>> Lennart
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From a.g.knox at abdn.ac.uk  Sat Oct 10 09:56:48 2020
From: a.g.knox at abdn.ac.uk (Knox, Dr Alan G.)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 13:56:48 +0000
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I think the actual message was probably typed a bit quickly and maybe should have read:

Is it ok to put a safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. in a fluid-preserved collection room?

I have no idea what the regulations may be in Lennart?s country, but the room is apparently already full of ethanol and formaldehyde ?

Alan

Dr Alan Knox
Emeritus Head of Museums
University of Aberdeen
King's College
Aberdeen AB24 3SW

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Dear Lennart,

concur with Simon that the intention of your question remains a bit unclear, perhaps you could give us a bit more content?

Simonis right that storage of regulated chemicals usually requires specifically safety rated storage furniture; for the storage of jars in fluid storage, there are pros and cons regarding storage inside such cabinets (e.g. just to mention microclimats that may build up inside cabinets or more staff time needs to be considered for regular monitoring intervals) - so this really is wide field with a multitude of possible answers.

With best wishes
Dirk


Am 09.10.2020 um 11:02 schrieb Simon Moore:

Hmm,

Didn?t quite understand the message but I presume that you?re asking about needing a safety cabinet to store formaldehyde and alcohol? This depends on your country?s regulations for storage of these fluids. In the UK we are required to store fluids that are carcinogenic / mutagenic / flammable / corrosive / toxic &c inside a special metal and lockable cabinet that has been painted with corrosion-resistant paint.



With all good wishes, Simon.



Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR

Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,







www.natural-history-conservation.com<http://www.natural-history-conservation.com>









On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:58, Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee><mailto:Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> wrote:



Hi!



Is it okt o but safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. to fluid-preserved collection room?



Head!

Lennart



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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Sat Oct 10 21:36:54 2020
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 2020 01:36:54 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] safety cabinet fot chemicals
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Fire codes in the USA vary by state and even by city, but in many cases a cabinet with closing doors that contains flammables, even in sealed containers, should be independently vented to the outside with an exhaust duct. This is not unreasonable: a completely sealed metal box full of acetone fumes, for example, is a bomb. If there was a fire in the building and the cabinet got hot enough for the containers inside to start leaking fumes, the eventual result would be a massive explosion.
Alcohol collection rooms are normally required to have negative-pressure exhaust ventilation so that any escaped fumes go out of the vent and not into the corridors. Jars must typically be on open racking, not in cabinets, and there has to be some kind of fire suppression setup.

Paul Callomon MSc
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External.

I think the actual message was probably typed a bit quickly and maybe should have read:



Is it ok to put a safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. in a fluid-preserved collection room?



I have no idea what the regulations may be in Lennart?s country, but the room is apparently already full of ethanol and formaldehyde ?



Alan



Dr Alan Knox

Emeritus Head of Museums

University of Aberdeen

King's College

Aberdeen AB24 3SW



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Dear Lennart,



concur with Simon that the intention of your question remains a bit unclear, perhaps you could give us a bit more content?



Simonis right that storage of regulated chemicals usually requires specifically safety rated storage furniture; for the storage of jars in fluid storage, there are pros and cons regarding storage inside such cabinets (e.g. just to mention microclimats that may build up inside cabinets or more staff time needs to be considered for regular monitoring intervals) - so this really is wide field with a multitude of possible answers.



With best wishes

Dirk





Am 09.10.2020 um 11:02 schrieb Simon Moore:

Hmm,

Didn?t quite understand the message but I presume that you?re asking about needing a safety cabinet to store formaldehyde and alcohol? This depends on your country?s regulations for storage of these fluids. In the UK we are required to store fluids that are carcinogenic / mutagenic / flammable / corrosive / toxic &c inside a special metal and lockable cabinet that has been painted with corrosion-resistant paint.



With all good wishes, Simon.



Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR

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On 9 Oct 2020, at 09:58, Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee><mailto:Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee> wrote:



Hi!



Is it okt o but safety cabinet for ethanol, formaldehyde etc. to fluid-preserved collection room?



Head!

Lennart



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From rnewberry at smm.org  Mon Oct 12 12:42:06 2020
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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Hi there,
Would you please share your preferred North American vendors for stainless
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From sweet at amnh.org  Mon Oct 12 12:56:46 2020
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 16:56:46 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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I?ve bought from

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From emily.braker at colorado.edu  Mon Oct 12 13:17:18 2020
From: emily.braker at colorado.edu (Emily M. Braker)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 17:17:18 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] REMINDER - Arctos webinar tomorrow (Oct 13) on New
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Please join us for an Arctos webinar on the new collections onboarding process.

Abstract: Joining the Arctos Community means meeting new collaborators, learning new skills, and a lot of data clean-up. Whether you joined five years ago, last week, plan to join soon, or want to help mentor new members, this webinar will help explain the process we have set up to help new members of the Arctos Community get their collections up and running. Learn why we use GitHub, how to best get help, who has the answers and where to find documentation. Onboarding never really ends, even our most senior community members are adding new types of collections data. The process that we use for onboarding extends into daily Arctos Community life, so the practices that you pick up during onboarding can serve you well into the future. Hope to see everyone at this webinar!

Presenter: Teresa Mayfield-Meyer, New Mexico Museum of Natural History & Science

When:  Tuesday, October 13, 2020 at 3:00pm ET (19:00 UTC)

Where: https://cuboulder.zoom.us/j/97020047644

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Emily Braker
Vertebrate Collections Manager, Zoology Section
University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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Rebecca

We have found that the tanks from Delta Designs are of superior quality to those from Steel Fixtures ? see attached.  Prices may be a little outdated.

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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

I?ve bought from

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Hi there,
Would you please share your preferred North American vendors for stainless steel tanks to store wet collections?
Thank you!
Rebecca
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AIBS Public Policy Report


AIBS Public Policy Report, Volume 21, Issue 21, October 12, 2020

  *   Scientific Societies Highlight Pandemic Work, Urge NSF to Continue Support
  *   Science Groups Oppose Executive Order Banning Federal Diversity Training
  *   Science Associations Urge Rigorous Assessment of Vaccine Safety, Efficacy
  *   Congress Passes Stopgap Measure, Relief Talks Resume
  *   Trump Administration Proposes New Student Visa Restrictions
  *   NSF BIO Changes Solicitations Process
  *   NASEM Webinar: Research Strategy to Examine the Taxonomy of the Red Wolf
  *   Short Takes
     *   USGS Names First Chief Scientist
     *   Experts Sought for Panel on Quantum-Enabled Sensing, Imaging for Biology
     *   NASEM Board on Life Sciences Announces Webinar Series
     *   Nominate Experts for Panel on Care and Use of Animals in Research
     *   NASEM Launches National Committee for Ocean Decade
  *   From the Federal Register

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With proper attribution to AIBS, all material from these reports may be reproduced or forwarded. AIBS staff appreciates receiving copies of materials used. If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please contact the AIBS Public Policy Manager, Jyotsna Pandey, at 202-628-1500 x 225.

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Scientific Societies Highlight Pandemic Work, Urge NSF to Continue Support

Forty-three scientific societies, including the American Institute of Biological Sciences (AIBS), have written to the National Science Foundation (NSF) to highlight the important role scientific associations have played during the COVID-19 pandemic.

?Our societies engage in an array of activities, consistent with the goals laid out in the National Science Board's Vision 2030,? the groups note.  ?As a key component of the science and engineering ecosystem, we are in a position to provide our expertise and efforts to reach broad segments of the scientific community in ways that other institutions cannot.?

The letter<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=a01ddf904d&e=6708ed45cf> lists crucial activities scientific organizations, including AIBS, have engaged in during the pandemic.  Important AIBS work highlighted include:

  *   AIBS launched ?Building More Resilient Societies and Organizations.? A discussion series where leaders from 130 scientific societies and related organizations share resources and identify strategies for tackling issues such as racism and bias in science, building more financially resilient scientific professional associations, and opportunities to deploy new communication tools to foster scientific engagement among scientists from different fields and regions.
  *   AIBS partnered with the Natural Science Collections Alliance and the Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections to conduct a series of surveys to identify the financial and human resource impacts of COVID-19 related disruptions on the scientific and educational programs of natural history museums, university natural science collections, botanical gardens, herbaria, tissue collections, living collections, and other related scientific infrastructure.
  *   AIBS is actively researching gender bias in grant peer review. Findings from this work will inform the development of best practices for increasing equity in the grant peer review processes used by funding organizations and agencies.
Furthermore, the signatories call on NSF to continue to support the valuable programming provided by scientific societies and foster a culture of innovation to meet the needs of the scientific community. ?With the proliferation of online meetings necessitated by the pandemic, we encourage NSF to seize this opportunity to support new forms of innovation in this space,? the groups urge.  ?Traditional success metrics for meetings will change, and NSF has a role to play in helping the larger scientific enterprise understand what works in this new environment. Additionally, NSF can support our efforts to promote new ways for scientists to connect across disciplines. Whereas it has traditionally been uncommon for scientists to travel to an in-person meeting outside of their discipline, the relatively low-cost investment of attending online meetings allows scientists to explore new topics and opportunities.?

Science Groups Oppose Executive Order Banning Federal Diversity Training

AIBS has endorsed a community letter urging the Trump Administration to rescind its elimination of federal employee training programs related to diversity, equity and inclusion as specified in the September 4, 2020 Memorandum for the Heads of Executive Departments and Agencies and the September 22 Executive Order on Combating Race and Sex Stereotyping.

According to the Executive Order<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=e7d9e7c1d8&e=6708ed45cf>, ?Instructors and materials teaching that men and members of certain races, as well as our most venerable institutions, are inherently sexist and racist are appearing in workplace diversity trainings across the country, even in components of the Federal Government and among Federal contractors.?  The order directs federal agencies, the uniformed services, and government contractors to end ?divisive? racial sensitivity trainings.  The order also prohibits federal grant funds to be used to promote ?race or sex stereotyping or scapegoating.?

Opposing the directive, the science groups argue<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=0608a121fe&e=6708ed45cf>, in part, ?Federal employees are an important part of the scientific community and play a crucial role in creating a diverse scientific workforce. Sensitivity training helps employees become more aware of barriers to increased diversity, motivates positive behaviors and attitudes, and improves cognitive skills. Increased diversity within the scientific workforce accelerates innovation and increases productivity, leading to greater scientific progress that provides the foundation for America?s economy, security and quality of life.?

 ?Empirical evidence shows that diverse perspectives lead to better solutions to problems, better decision-making and better outcomes,? the groups note.  ?Similarly, scientific breakthroughs and discoveries are better enabled through inclusive workplaces that allow contributions from a range of diverse perspectives.?

The community letter urges the Administration to lift the restrictions on race-related training in the Federal government ?to help create and sustain a more diverse and productive scientific community.?

Science Associations Urge Rigorous Assessment of Vaccine Safety, Efficacy

AIBS has joined fourteen other scientific societies in urging Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar and Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Commissioner Stephen Hahn to adhere to stringent scientific and medical standards while assessing the safety and efficacy of COVID-19 vaccine candidates.

The letter responds to President Trump?s claim that a COVID-19 vaccine would probably be available before Election Day.  This raised concerns about political interference in the vaccine approval process.

The scientific coalition urged<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=236bdf982e&e=6708ed45cf> FDA ?to exercise the independence and scientific rigor for which the FDA is known? and warned that ?allowing a vaccine to enter the marketplace prior to a rigorous assessment of its safety and efficacy would undermine vaccine confidence in the nation, erode the public's trust in the agency, and risk the health of the American public.?

?The approval of a low-efficacy vaccine could lead to a false sense of protection, resulting in the easing of public health measures, and that will exacerbate the pandemic,? the groups note. ?Approving a vaccine without adequate testing could result in adverse impacts and worsen the already significant anti-vaccination sentiment.?

Congress Passes Stopgap Measure, Relief Talks Resume

Congress has now passed and the President has signed a continuing resolution to keep the government open in the new fiscal year (FY), which started on October 1, 2020.  The stopgap measure will allow federal science agencies to continue operating at FY 2020 budget levels. Decisions about FY 2021 appropriations bills have been deferred until December 11.

Pandemic relief negotiations between congressional Democrats and the White House restarted earlier this month, after the House of Representatives passed a pared-down version of the Heroes Act<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=999e85930c&e=6708ed45cf>.  The revised stimulus package trims $1.2 trillion from the initially proposed $3.4 trillion measure, but Republican lawmakers said the $2.2 trillion price tag was still too high.  ?We're in very near agreement on all the COVID things that matter,? said Senator Roy Blunt (R-MO).  ?What we're not in agreement on is about $1 trillion worth of other things.?

The updated Heroes Act includes $2.9 billion in emergency relief for the National Science Foundation (NSF), which is just short of the $3 billion allocated for the agency in the RISE Act<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=8709353a9b&e=6708ed45cf> ? a measure endorsed by more than 300 higher education, research, industry groups, and associations, including AIBS.  The latest House bill would allocate $2.587 billion for NSF?s Research and Related Activities and $300 million for the Education and Human Resources account.  The measure also includes $1 million for a National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine study on the current understanding of the spread of COVID?19-related disinformation on the internet and social media platforms.  Other notable provisions in the bill include:

  *   $4.7 billion for the National Institutes of Health to expand COVID-19-related research.
  *   $392 million to address coronavirus-related needs at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration.
  *   $20 million for the National Institute for Standards and Technology to support development and manufacturing of medical countermeasures and biomedical equipment and supplies to address the coronavirus.
  *   $11.9 billion for higher education institutions.
  *   $50 million for the Environmental Protection Agency to investigate links between pollution exposure and the transmission and health outcomes of coronavirus in communities that have experienced disproportionate negative health outcomes.
  *   $135 million for the Institute of Museum and Library Services to support libraries and museums with costs and expenses associated with coronavirus.
  *   $45 million for the Fish and Wildlife Service and $20 million for the National Park Service to respond to the pandemic.

Days after relief talks resumed, President Trump abruptly announced on Twitter on October 6 that he had ordered an end to relief negotiations until after the November election, rejecting the Democrats? latest proposal and calling on the Senate to instead focus their attention on confirming Judge Amy Coney Barrett to the Supreme Court.  The decision drew bipartisan criticism from lawmakers.  ?Now is not the time for the Congress to stop doing its work,? said Senator Lisa Murkowski (R-AK).  ?Alaskans desperately need relief to help mitigate both the health and economic impacts of COVID-19.?  Then on October 8, Trump announced that his Administration had once again resumed negotiations with congressional Democrats.

Disagreements persist between the White House and Congress on the price tag of the next stimulus package.  Democrats continue to resist going below $2.2 trillion.  Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin was initially willing to go up to $1.6 trillion, but on October 9, he proposed a slightly larger $1.8 trillion relief measure with additional funding for state and local governments and direct stimulus checks.  The latest White House proposal drew bipartisan opposition, with Republican lawmakers criticizing the spending as too high and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) saying that the measure did not contain enough spending for unemployment insurance, schools, states and local government, and testing.

At one point, President Trump expressed support for a stand-alone legislation to send another round of $1,200 direct payments.  That proposal has been rejected by Speaker Pelosi, who wants to pass a more comprehensive package.  Senate Republicans on the other hand do not favor a comprehensive bill.

According to news reports, prospects for the next relief measure being passed before the elections look dismal.  Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said he plans to focus on confirmation hearings for the new Supreme Court nominee over the next few weeks and indicated that Republicans will ?reengage? in relief talks after the elections.

Trump Administration Proposes New Student Visa Restrictions

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) issued a proposed rulemaking on September 25, 2020 that would impose new restrictions on international student visas.  The proposed changes would require international students to apply for a visa extension after fixed terms of two to four years.

Essentially, an expiration date would be placed on most student visas that previously lasted the duration of a student?s degree program.  Most international student visas would expire after four years, while some students, depending on their country of origin, would have to apply for an extension after two years ? specifically students born in countries on the State Sponsor of Terrorism List, including Iran, North Korea, Sudan and Syria.  Requests for extensions of stay could be approved ?if the additional time needed is due to a compelling academic reason, documented medical illness or medical condition, or circumstance that was beyond the student?s control.?  Many in the academic community worry that the limited visa terms could make it challenging for international students to complete graduate and doctoral programs.

According to the Trump administration, these changes are necessary to increase oversight of international students and address visa fraud and overstay issues.

The proposal has received swift pushback from advocates of international students.  ?This proposed rule is set to replace a proven, flexible policy that has served international students and exchange visitors for decades, with one that is both complicated and burdensome,? said Esther Brimmer, Executive Director and CEO of NAFSA: Association of International Educators, according to Inside Higher Ed.  ?In a system that is already extremely complex, this rule would undoubtably create a high degree of uncertainty for international students and exchange visitors?Sadly, this proposal sends another message to immigrants, and in particular international students and exchange visitors, that their exceptional talent, work ethic, diverse perspectives, and economic contributions are not welcome in the United States.?

The scientific community is concerned that the new restrictions could weaken scientific research and undermine U.S. global leadership.  ?Science is international,? said Andrew Rosenberg, Director of the Union of Concerned Scientists. ?That's one reason why our academic setting is so strong.?

The directive was also rebuked by members of the House Science Committee.  ?The proposed rule from DHS is just the latest attempt by the Trump administration to isolate the United States? scientific and academic enterprise and lock out the global talent we need to remain a leader on the world stage,? stated House Science Committee Chairwoman Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-TX) and House Science Subcommittee on Investigations and Oversight Chairman Bill Foster (D-IL).  ?This anti-immigrant proposal serves only to antagonize students, particularly those with African and Middle Eastern nationalities, seeking to learn from and contribute to our nation?s science and research institutions.?  The lawmakers urged that the 30-day comment period be extended to allow for a serious review and discussion of proposed rule?s impacts.

DHS will be accepting public comments<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=8ae2e97db1&e=6708ed45cf> on the proposed rulemaking until October 26, 2020.

NSF BIO Changes Solicitations Process

The National Science Foundation?s (NSF) Biological Sciences Directorate (BIO) has announced changes to their program solicitation process, specifically the migration of BIO?s ?no-deadline? solicitations from FastLane to Research.gov.

BIO will require<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=3d74669658&e=6708ed45cf> submission of full proposals via Research.gov or Grants.gov for program solicitations that have no deadlines in the Division of Environmental Biology (DEB), the Division of Integrative Organismal Systems (IOS), the Division of Molecular and Cellular Biosciences (MCB), and in the Research Resources Cluster of the Division of Biological Infrastructure (DBI).

According to BIO Assistant Director Joanne Tornow, the migration of these solicitations to Research.gov is the first step in an NSF-wide effort to modernize their proposal submission and review systems.  The new system is intended to improve user experience while reducing administrative burdens.  ?We expect that new solicitations for the affected programs will be published in the coming weeks and that the migration of those solicitations to Research.gov will be effective 90 days after the new solicitations are published,? stated Tornow.

NSF will be holding a series of BIO-wide virtual office hours, where the research community can learn more from BIO program officers about the migration and overall modernization efforts.  The virtual office hours will occur on Monday, October 19 at 11 AM EDT; Tuesday October 20 at 10 AM EDT; Wednesday, October 21 at 1 PM EDT; and Thursday, October 22 at 3 PM EDT.  Members of the community are invited to register for these sessions at https://www.nsf.gov/events/event_summ.jsp?cntn_id=301092&org=BIO<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=b50de3a445&e=6708ed45cf>.

NASEM Webinar: Research Strategy to Examine the Taxonomy of the Red Wolf

The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine (NASEM) is releasing a new report on the research strategy for the red wolf (Canis rufus) taxonomy to determine the classification of currently unidentified canid populations in southeastern United States.  The independent study was requested by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service.  This report builds on a 2019 NASEM report<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=e2b701bc28&e=6708ed45cf> that found that red wolves constituted a taxonomically species distinct from the extant gray wolves and coyotes.

A report release webinar will be held on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 at 1:00 PM EDT.  Dr. Joseph Travis, Past President of AIBS, Distinguished Professor of Biology at Florida State University, and Chair of the report's panel, will present the report's findings and conclusions.

Register at: https://nasem.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_vYjEGxFPTcCTY8sJ9pBX2w?mc_cid=6177c5dcd9&mc_eid=a271cda812<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=fab8e4567c&e=6708ed45cf>

Short Takes

  *   The U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) has appointed environmental researcher Dr. Geoffrey Plumlee to the agency's newly established position of Chief Scientist.  Plumlee previously served as Senior Science Advisor to the USGS Director and Associate Director for Environmental Health.  He has a bachelor?s degree in geology from the University of New Mexico and earned his Ph.D. in geochemistry from Harvard University. ?USGS has such a wide range of expertise and addresses such a broad range of complex science topics, no one individual can provide expert guidance on it all,? noted a USGS spokesperson, according to E&E News. ?The Chief Scientist must be able to seek, integrate and interpret expert input from many different sources within and outside the USGS.? According to the spokesperson, ?the position of chief scientist was added to align the USGS with other science and technology organizations that have similar Chief Technology Officer or Chief Scientist positions.?
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From sweet at amnh.org  Mon Oct 12 14:36:08 2020
From: sweet at amnh.org (Paul R Sweet)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:36:08 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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 <428BD739-AC0D-4E9F-B6A9-8B45F7D4852A@amnh.org>,
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Andy

Curious to know what issues you had with the Steel Fixtures tanks? So far I?ve been happy with ours.

Paul

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Oct 12, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu> wrote:

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EXTERNAL SENDER

Rebecca

We have found that the tanks from Delta Designs are of superior quality to those from Steel Fixtures ? see attached.  Prices may be a little outdated.

Andy

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Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org>
Date: Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM
To: Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>
Cc: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

I?ve bought from

Roger Emperley
sales at steelfixture.com<mailto:sales at steelfixture.com>
1-800-342-9180<tel:1-800-342-9180>
www.steelfixture.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steelfixture.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C649b7a95cc1446a8959b08d86edb0a0a%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637381234919563379&sdata=I%2FwPR6Y7o20rDuE4s1fVgIkiGP5nbq2wkc5mmz%2Fy6vk%3D&reserved=0>

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org> wrote:
EXTERNAL SENDER

Hi there,
Would you please share your preferred North American vendors for stainless steel tanks to store wet collections?
Thank you!
Rebecca
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From abentley at ku.edu  Mon Oct 12 14:41:21 2020
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:41:21 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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 <428BD739-AC0D-4E9F-B6A9-8B45F7D4852A@amnh.org>
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Paul

I will temper my comments with the caveat that we have not ordered from them in some time (years) due to the issues we found.  Maybe things have changed.  There were three main issues that we encountered at the time ? inferior clasps that kept coming loose from the tank over time, buckling in the sidewalls of the large 36? tanks and issues with dolly wheels and decks failing, rusting and not rolling well.  It was not every tank but we had issues with enough to make us consider a switch to Delta.  We have had no similar issues with their tanks.

Andy

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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>

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From: Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org>
Date: Monday, October 12, 2020 at 1:36 PM
To: Andrew Bentley <abentley at ku.edu>
Cc: Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

Andy

Curious to know what issues you had with the Steel Fixtures tanks? So far I?ve been happy with ours.

Paul
Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941


On Oct 12, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu> wrote:
EXTERNAL SENDER

Rebecca

We have found that the tanks from Delta Designs are of superior quality to those from Steel Fixtures ? see attached.  Prices may be a little outdated.

Andy

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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org>
Date: Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM
To: Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>
Cc: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

I?ve bought from

Roger Emperley
sales at steelfixture.com<mailto:sales at steelfixture.com>
1-800-342-9180<tel:1-800-342-9180>
www.steelfixture.com<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steelfixture.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C3052be11dfa84f5ba97008d86eddb287%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637381245753733346&sdata=wTThV0cyIWCvMSoE%2FI81NxX6%2B0RY%2FkSra9OZdZQEibo%3D&reserved=0>

Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941



On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org> wrote:
EXTERNAL SENDER

Hi there,
Would you please share your preferred North American vendors for stainless steel tanks to store wet collections?
Thank you!
Rebecca
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From sweet at amnh.org  Mon Oct 12 14:57:19 2020
From: sweet at amnh.org (Paul R Sweet)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 18:57:19 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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Thanks for the info. I will take a look and see how mine are faring.



From: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2020 2:41 PM
To: Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org>
Cc: Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>; NHCOLL-L <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

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Paul

I will temper my comments with the caveat that we have not ordered from them in some time (years) due to the issues we found.  Maybe things have changed.  There were three main issues that we encountered at the time ? inferior clasps that kept coming loose from the tank over time, buckling in the sidewalls of the large 36? tanks and issues with dolly wheels and decks failing, rusting and not rolling well.  It was not every tank but we had issues with enough to make us consider a switch to Delta.  We have had no similar issues with their tanks.

Andy

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Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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From: Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org<mailto:sweet at amnh.org>>
Date: Monday, October 12, 2020 at 1:36 PM
To: Andrew Bentley <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>>
Cc: Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org<mailto:rnewberry at smm.org>>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

Andy

Curious to know what issues you had with the Steel Fixtures tanks? So far I?ve been happy with ours.

Paul
Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941

On Oct 12, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>> wrote:
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Rebecca

We have found that the tanks from Delta Designs are of superior quality to those from Steel Fixtures ? see attached.  Prices may be a little outdated.

Andy

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org<mailto:sweet at amnh.org>>
Date: Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM
To: Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org<mailto:rnewberry at smm.org>>
Cc: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections

I?ve bought from

Roger Emperley
sales at steelfixture.com<mailto:sales at steelfixture.com>
1-800-342-9180<tel:1-800-342-9180>
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Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob 718 757 5941


On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org<mailto:rnewberry at smm.org>> wrote:
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Hi there,
Would you please share your preferred North American vendors for stainless steel tanks to store wet collections?
Thank you!
Rebecca
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From rnewberry at smm.org  Mon Oct 12 15:46:44 2020
From: rnewberry at smm.org (Rebecca Newberry)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2020 14:46:44 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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Thanks, everyone! This is very helpful.
Rebecca
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On Mon, Oct 12, 2020 at 1:57 PM Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the info. I will take a look and see how mine are faring.
>
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> *From:* Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 12, 2020 2:41 PM
> *To:* Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org>
> *Cc:* Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>; NHCOLL-L <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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> *EXTERNAL SENDER*
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> Paul
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> I will temper my comments with the caveat that we have not ordered from
> them in some time (years) due to the issues we found.  Maybe things have
> changed.  There were three main issues that we encountered at the time ?
> inferior clasps that kept coming loose from the tank over time, buckling in
> the sidewalls of the large 36? tanks and issues with dolly wheels and decks
> failing, rusting and not rolling well.  It was not every tank but we had
> issues with enough to make us consider a switch to Delta.  We have had no
> similar issues with their tanks.
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> Andy
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> Biodiversity Institute
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> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
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> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
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> *From: *Paul R Sweet <sweet at amnh.org>
> *Date: *Monday, October 12, 2020 at 1:36 PM
> *To: *Andrew Bentley <abentley at ku.edu>
> *Cc: *Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
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> Andy
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>
> Curious to know what issues you had with the Steel Fixtures tanks? So far
> I?ve been happy with ours.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob
> 718 757 5941
>
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
> wrote:
>
> *EXTERNAL SENDER*
>
>
>
> Rebecca
>
>
>
> We have found that the tanks from Delta Designs are of superior quality to
> those from Steel Fixtures ? see attached.  Prices may be a little
> outdated.
>
>
>
> Andy
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> Andy Bentley
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> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>
> University of Kansas
>
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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> *From: *Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Paul R
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> *Date: *Monday, October 12, 2020 at 11:57 AM
> *To: *Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org>
> *Cc: *"nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [Nhcoll-l] Stainless steel tanks for wet collections
>
>
>
> I?ve bought from
>
>
>
> Roger Emperley
> sales at steelfixture.com
> 1-800-342-9180
> www.steelfixture.com
> <https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.steelfixture.com%2F&data=02%7C01%7Csweet%40amnh.org%7C0fd00fadd75142f9c04608d86ede6e08%7Cbe0003e8c6b9496883aeb34586974b76%7C0%7C0%7C637381248893449030&sdata=EI7RQoEQSHq4fKInu45Imma64CGu%2BL%2BZ969XfSfZB48%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
> Paul Sweet | Department of Ornithology | American Museum of Natural
> History | Central Park West @ 79th St | NY 10024 | Tel 212 769 5780 | Mob
> 718 757 5941
>
>
>
> On Oct 12, 2020, at 12:48 PM, Rebecca Newberry <rnewberry at smm.org> wrote:
>
> *EXTERNAL SENDER*
>
>
>
> Hi there,
>
> Would you please share your preferred North American vendors for stainless
> steel tanks to store wet collections?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Rebecca
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From prandiraptor at gmail.com  Tue Oct 13 13:40:53 2020
From: prandiraptor at gmail.com (Nicole Neu-Yagle)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 11:40:53 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Pest control q- Shiny Spider Beetles
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Hello,



I am curious if any other collections have experienced the presence of the
pest colloquially known as the ?shiny spider beetle? (genus *Gibbium*), and
if so, how they have been managed and if it was successful or not.

It has been suggested to us by Terminix that these beetles are coming from
our drains, which may be true as we have only witnessed and caught the
adult forms of this creature, with no specific concentrated source. The
general recommendation that I?ve received so far, for eradication of spider
beetles, is to remove the food source. But in this case I do not know if
this will be possible. We have tried one soapy flush of our drains but it
has not made a very noticeable impact.



Best,

Nicole Neu-Yagle
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From bwatts at brit.org  Tue Oct 13 14:31:18 2020
From: bwatts at brit.org (Brandy Watts)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 18:31:18 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] New Collection Lens Linnean Society Interview and a
 Botany Story from the Mountains of China
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Dear All,

I?m very pleased to share with you two new pieces from BRIT Library?s Collection Lens and Botany Stories series.

Collection Lens
Gina Douglas, Honorary Archivist of the Linnean Society of London, discusses her many fruitful and enriching years with the Linnean Society and the wonderful collections that she has worked with during her tenure.
http://www.brit.org/collections-lens/gina-douglas-linnean-society-london

Botany Stories
From the mountains of China, comes a botany story in search of Mertensia (Bluebells), of the Boraginaceae family. Through the summer of 2010, botanist Mare Nazaire Ph.D. of California Botanic Garden (RSA) conducted numerous field collecting trips throughout the alpine regions of China.
http://www.brit.org/botany-stories/searching-mertensia-through-mountains-china

Very best,

Brandy Watts, MLIS, MFA | Librarian | BRIT | 817.332.4441 x 271 |817.463.4102 direct | 817.332.4112 fax | BRIT.org<http://www.brit.org/> | 1700 University Dr., Fort Worth, TX 76107-3400 USA | Think Before You Print

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From rw at protectheritage.com  Tue Oct 13 16:20:49 2020
From: rw at protectheritage.com (Robert Waller)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 20:20:49 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Apologies for cross posting but seems an idea worth
 sharing widely
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If you haven't already seen it, this is a fantastic idea for lego mineral specimens that's been proposed for the LEGO IDEAS system (where individuals submit ideas and winning ideas are put into production by the company).

I'm sure you'll all agree this would be an excellent additional way to introduce minerals to a new generation.  I'm also sure many of you would want this yourselves (I certainly do!)
[Screenshot 2020-10-13 at 11.49.49.png]

But this can only happen if it gets enough votes, so if you have a way of reaching out to your own friends and communities to get them to vote on the project, please do!

https://ideas.lego.com/projects/91a8106f-11ab-47df-a2f9-b8c5151ef5f4#&gid=1&pid=4
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From dssikes at alaska.edu  Tue Oct 13 21:45:18 2020
From: dssikes at alaska.edu (Derek Sikes)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:45:18 -0800
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
Message-ID: <CAFV61VFVxzo2E-O0LGYP3sqQmgH+CubQT+WEOk7s-eom3cHcKg@mail.gmail.com>

Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



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phone: 907-474-6278
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From cjschmidt at fhsu.edu  Tue Oct 13 21:51:08 2020
From: cjschmidt at fhsu.edu (Curtis Schmidt)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 01:51:08 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Derek,

I know Dr. William Duellman, herpetologist at the University of Kansas, got in trouble several years ago for collecting numerous specimens without proper permits in Central America and bringing them back to the US. He had to publish an explanation of the "miscommunications", a public apology, and an explanation of the permitting processes in Herpetological Review as part of his punishment. I don't remember right off hand which issue, but it should be searchable. Let me know if you need help finding the issue.

Curtis


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    Zoological Collections Manager

    Sternberg Museum of Natural History


    Instructor

    Department of Biological Sciences

    Fort Hays State University


    3000 Sternberg Drive

    Hays, KS  67601

    785-650-2447 (cell)

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Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 8:45 PM
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2fwww.uaf.edu%2fmuseum%2fcollections%2fento%2f&c=E,1,rMRBv8nN-Bzj_rLIZX3uX0RXgsJg_sn8CucfdngO2UFUtPbry-nWm-thivcwiYo1p_4TNy26BCKCCFzrJfzFtgln2R2foS6pTp1Lr-6q&typo=1>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
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From Rehan.Scharenguivel at Australian.Museum  Tue Oct 13 22:49:52 2020
From: Rehan.Scharenguivel at Australian.Museum (Rehan Scharenguivel)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 02:49:52 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Pest control q- Shiny Spider Beetles
Message-ID: <MEXPR01MB09032414C56EF9F72099D8E8F2050@MEXPR01MB0903.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com>

We have had some problems with Spider beetles in the past, I have never had them infest collection material and are usually within a space as a scavenger/secondary pest.

Every time we have had them in large numbers they have been associated with a birds nest in the roof. We've usually had the beetles come from the nest through the drains into a space. If you can find the initial food source this may help with the pests. Once we removed the birds nests and found the associated pathway into the stores (ours was a combination of weakened seals/HVAC), the problem was greatly reduced, to the point where I rarely find them within our Collection spaces.

If there are no birds nests, its possible the beetles are associated with other animal activity, looking for vertebrate activity may help with the beetle problem.

Best of Luck, hopefully you find a solution!

Regards,

Rehan Scharenguivel
Collection Care Conservator | Australian Museum Research Institute
Australian Museum  1 William Street Sydney NSW 2010 Australia
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From glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu  Wed Oct 14 10:27:59 2020
From: glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu (Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:27:59 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
In-Reply-To: <CAFV61VFVxzo2E-O0LGYP3sqQmgH+CubQT+WEOk7s-eom3cHcKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFV61VFVxzo2E-O0LGYP3sqQmgH+CubQT+WEOk7s-eom3cHcKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <MN2PR07MB60624D80242207A1B7BDF5CED5050@MN2PR07MB6062.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>

There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might take some work now. Here are a few:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case
https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid


=================================================
Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
Senior Curatorial Technician
Harvard University Herbaria
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
To: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.uaf.edu_museum_collections_ento_&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=GfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A&s=OBxDUkxG0XXhRUwcAXgP0oJfTsZQvfWeFhc5Whp3B7U&e=>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.akentsoc.org_contact-5Fus&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=GfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A&s=Mz6fZzzFkBVxF4pNOrHn4Tg7DDT-BIGNgV05s7W0B08&e=>
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From rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu  Wed Oct 14 10:56:12 2020
From: rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu (Rob Robins)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:56:12 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
In-Reply-To: <MN2PR07MB60624D80242207A1B7BDF5CED5050@MN2PR07MB6062.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAFV61VFVxzo2E-O0LGYP3sqQmgH+CubQT+WEOk7s-eom3cHcKg@mail.gmail.com>
 <MN2PR07MB60624D80242207A1B7BDF5CED5050@MN2PR07MB6062.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <BN6PR22MB01136C90EE1FAB920ACBA13081050@BN6PR22MB0113.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

What?s the end game here folks?

Rob Robins

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum of Natural History
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>

Search the Collection:
http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/

Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/

[cid:image004.jpg at 01D6A218.A0A9B680]   [cid:image005.jpg at 01D6A218.A0A9B680]

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

[External Email]

There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might take some work now. Here are a few:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0&s=8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs&e=>
https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.sarasotamagazine.com_news-2Dand-2Dprofiles_2005_03_the-2Dcase-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dpurloined-2Dorchid&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0&s=OioH1xdHO_1l5A2kA2dkdK_Gekin6bXj3s8mYL1znEA&e=>


=================================================
Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
Senior Curatorial Technician
Harvard University Herbaria
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu<mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
To: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu<mailto:ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.uaf.edu_museum_collections_ento_&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=GfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A&s=OBxDUkxG0XXhRUwcAXgP0oJfTsZQvfWeFhc5Whp3B7U&e=>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.akentsoc.org_contact-5Fus&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=GfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A&s=Mz6fZzzFkBVxF4pNOrHn4Tg7DDT-BIGNgV05s7W0B08&e=>
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From abentley at ku.edu  Wed Oct 14 11:05:57 2020
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:05:57 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
In-Reply-To: <BN6PR22MB01136C90EE1FAB920ACBA13081050@BN6PR22MB0113.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
References: <CAFV61VFVxzo2E-O0LGYP3sqQmgH+CubQT+WEOk7s-eom3cHcKg@mail.gmail.com>
 <MN2PR07MB60624D80242207A1B7BDF5CED5050@MN2PR07MB6062.namprd07.prod.outlook.com>
 <BN6PR22MB01136C90EE1FAB920ACBA13081050@BN6PR22MB0113.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>
Message-ID: <7138F177-63E1-4DA7-A332-77EAA3FDE8B7@ku.edu>

Rob

I was going to ask the same question.  Why are we airing all our dirty laundry?

Derek ? what is your need for this information?

Andy

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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:56 AM
To: "'glewis-g at oeb. edu'" <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>, Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

What?s the end game here folks?

Rob Robins

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum of Natural History
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>

Search the Collection:
http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspecifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu%2Ffishes%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637382841864947475&sdata=rBKXwCCEm%2FS6SpnhXg8cwk3datSHwYscFGmnyuKPoY8%3D&reserved=0>

Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamuseum.ufl.edu%2Fgrr%2Fholdings%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637382841864947475&sdata=QPKzUOeDqrzu479pPsloZWWgjt%2BUeIlJt1f0eV%2FjXmc%3D&reserved=0>

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

[External Email]
There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might take some work now. Here are a few:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3D8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864947475&sdata=pkQJsxYK0fLzDoDZx53arLtgM2uEdFi1kp0jRHBQGdU%3D&reserved=0>
https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.sarasotamagazine.com_news-2Dand-2Dprofiles_2005_03_the-2Dcase-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dpurloined-2Dorchid%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3DOioH1xdHO_1l5A2kA2dkdK_Gekin6bXj3s8mYL1znEA%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864957432&sdata=hKB2D6giEmfrx4Aaho7qoosqfDLcGFGLAQO8xPJ%2BZfc%3D&reserved=0>


=================================================
Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
Senior Curatorial Technician
Harvard University Herbaria
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu<mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
To: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu<mailto:ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.uaf.edu_museum_collections_ento_%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DWO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ%26r%3DEYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No%26m%3DGfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A%26s%3DOBxDUkxG0XXhRUwcAXgP0oJfTsZQvfWeFhc5Whp3B7U%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864957432&sdata=wzPXZdlAYmAS1aOWbj2sv3oY%2BSBIFD%2FllesGRmr%2FTko%3D&reserved=0>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
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From AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org  Wed Oct 14 11:22:20 2020
From: AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org (Anderson, Gretchen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:22:20 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Very good question, Rob and Andy.  While I am all for transparency ? there are many situations that we probably should not openly discuss, especially if they are not resolved at this point. As Andy noted ? why air dirty laundry to the public? It will make it harder for our institutions to come to an equitable and rational solution.

Gretchen

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Rob Robins
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:56 AM
To: Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

What?s the end game here folks?

Rob Robins

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum of Natural History
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>

Search the Collection:
http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/

Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

[External Email]
There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might take some work now. Here are a few:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2furldefense.proofpoint.com%2fv2%2furl%3fu%3dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%26d%3dDwMGaQ%26c%3dsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3dMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3d8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3d8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%26e%3d&c=E,1,IHd87Uw2drIjpWG0ChXQzh1kG1II3RffrblnjBz5f5Z2k9VO1kLn04lDYRmEuAoxsQtNDysWGAPfTra_9Uvel0ZUbIl-hi7ngqg1RaldiYAdRe36Z89jyiaHIzs,&typo=1>
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=================================================
Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
Senior Curatorial Technician
Harvard University Herbaria
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu<mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
To: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu<mailto:ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
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From dssikes at alaska.edu  Wed Oct 14 12:03:22 2020
From: dssikes at alaska.edu (Derek Sikes)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 08:03:22 -0800
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
In-Reply-To: <7138F177-63E1-4DA7-A332-77EAA3FDE8B7@ku.edu>
References: <CAFV61VFVxzo2E-O0LGYP3sqQmgH+CubQT+WEOk7s-eom3cHcKg@mail.gmail.com>
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All,

Thanks for all the feedback! Sorry I didn't add that this is for a museum
studies course. The rationale is that only by knowing how things have gone
wrong can we avoid them going wrong in the future.

-Derek

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 7:05 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
wrote:

> Rob
>
>
>
> I was going to ask the same question.  Why are we airing all our dirty
> laundry?
>
>
>
> Derek ? what is your need for this information?
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
>      A  :                A  :               A  :
>
>  }<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<)))_?>
>
>      V                   V                  V
>
> Andy Bentley
>
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>
> University of Kansas
>
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
>
>
>
>      A  :                A  :                A  :
>
>  }<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<)))_?>
>
>      V                   V                   V
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Rob
> Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:56 AM
> *To: *"'glewis-g at oeb. edu'" <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>, Derek Sikes <
> dssikes at alaska.edu>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
> What?s the end game here folks?
>
>
> Rob Robins
>
>
>
> Robert H. Robins
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Division of Ichthyology
>
> [image: FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
>
> Florida Museum of Natural History
>
> 1659 Museum Rd.
>
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>
> Office: (352) 273-1957
>
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu
>
>
>
> Search the Collection:
>
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspecifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu%2Ffishes%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637382841864947475&sdata=rBKXwCCEm%2FS6SpnhXg8cwk3datSHwYscFGmnyuKPoY8%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
>
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamuseum.ufl.edu%2Fgrr%2Fholdings%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637382841864947475&sdata=QPKzUOeDqrzu479pPsloZWWgjt%2BUeIlJt1f0eV%2FjXmc%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> * On Behalf Of *Tocci,
> Genevieve Elizabeth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
> *To:* Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
> *[External Email]*
>
> There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the
> early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might
> take some work now. Here are a few:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3D8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864947475&sdata=pkQJsxYK0fLzDoDZx53arLtgM2uEdFi1kp0jRHBQGdU%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
> https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.sarasotamagazine.com_news-2Dand-2Dprofiles_2005_03_the-2Dcase-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dpurloined-2Dorchid%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3DOioH1xdHO_1l5A2kA2dkdK_Gekin6bXj3s8mYL1znEA%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864957432&sdata=hKB2D6giEmfrx4Aaho7qoosqfDLcGFGLAQO8xPJ%2BZfc%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
>
>
> =================================================
> Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
> Senior Curatorial Technician
> Harvard University Herbaria
> 22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
> Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu
>
>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Derek
> Sikes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>
>
>
> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
> Professor of Entomology
> University of Alaska Museum
>
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>
> 1962 Yukon Drive
> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>
> dssikes at alaska.edu
>
> phone: 907-474-6278
>
> FAX: 907-474-5469
> he/him/his
> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.uaf.edu_museum_collections_ento_%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DWO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ%26r%3DEYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No%26m%3DGfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A%26s%3DOBxDUkxG0XXhRUwcAXgP0oJfTsZQvfWeFhc5Whp3B7U%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864957432&sdata=wzPXZdlAYmAS1aOWbj2sv3oY%2BSBIFD%2FllesGRmr%2FTko%3D&reserved=0>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
> Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological
> Network" at
> http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us
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>


-- 

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
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From rpackaus at fhsu.edu  Wed Oct 14 12:22:02 2020
From: rpackaus at fhsu.edu (Richard Packauskas)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:22:02 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Chair position
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I am sending this out for interested parties, please pass this along.

Dr. Richard Packauskas
Professor of Biology
Dept. Biological Sciences
Associate Curator of Arthropods
Sternberg Museum
Fort Hays State University
600 Park St.
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From sarah.taylor at uconn.edu  Wed Oct 14 12:23:11 2020
From: sarah.taylor at uconn.edu (Taylor, Sarah)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:23:11 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Well, not to step on Derek?s toes or anything, but I thought his original request ? ?no need to reply with stories of misbehavior? unless it?s an already-published account involving specimens (not personnel) was the opposite of a request to ?air dirty laundry.? If an account is published, it?s already out there. Declining to discuss controversies doesn?t protect our institutions, it gives secretive, cliquish optics that blow up when they?re ?discovered.?

We have a unit in our Intro to Natural History Collections course where we specifically discuss ethical issues around collecting and museums using real examples, with identifying information withheld. It?s always a VERY lively discussion and the students come away with a much more thoughtful exploration of issues and hopefully a strong commitment to acting ethically than if we just said, ?don?t do x, y, or z, ok??

Obviously it?s fine to ask what this information is for, but I?m perplexed by the automatic suspicion around it (and apologies if I missed a post that clarified the purpose already?).

Cheers,
Sarah

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Sarah Taylor, PhD


Collections Manager, CONN

George Safford Torrey Herbarium
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
University of Connecticut
75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
U.S.A.

P: 860.486.1889
F: 860.486.4320
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From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Anderson, Gretchen
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 11:22 AM
To: Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>; Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

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Very good question, Rob and Andy.  While I am all for transparency ? there are many situations that we probably should not openly discuss, especially if they are not resolved at this point. As Andy noted ? why air dirty laundry to the public? It will make it harder for our institutions to come to an equitable and rational solution.

Gretchen

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Rob Robins
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:56 AM
To: Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu<mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>>; Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

What?s the end game here folks?

Rob Robins

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum of Natural History
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>

Search the Collection:
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

[External Email]
There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might take some work now. Here are a few:

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Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
Senior Curatorial Technician
Harvard University Herbaria
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu<mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
To: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu<mailto:ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



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Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
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Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
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From pfinkle at caspercollege.edu  Wed Oct 14 12:27:42 2020
From: pfinkle at caspercollege.edu (Patti Finkle)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 10:27:42 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Well said sarah!

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu>
wrote:

> Well, not to step on Derek?s toes or anything, but I thought his original
> request ? ?no need to reply with stories of misbehavior? unless it?s an
> already-published account involving specimens (not personnel) was the
> opposite of a request to ?air dirty laundry.? If an account is published,
> it?s already out there. Declining to discuss controversies doesn?t protect
> our institutions, it gives secretive, cliquish optics that blow up when
> they?re ?discovered.?
>
>
>
> We have a unit in our Intro to Natural History Collections course where we
> specifically discuss ethical issues around collecting and museums using
> real examples, with identifying information withheld. It?s always a VERY
> lively discussion and the students come away with a much more thoughtful
> exploration of issues and hopefully a strong commitment to acting ethically
> than if we just said, ?don?t do x, y, or z, ok??
>
>
>
> Obviously it?s fine to ask what this information is for, but I?m perplexed
> by the automatic suspicion around it (and apologies if I missed a post that
> clarified the purpose already?).
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>
>
> Collections Manager, CONN
>
> George Safford Torrey Herbarium
> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
> *University of Connecticut*
> 75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
> Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
> U.S.A.
>
> P: 860.486.1889
> F: 860.486.4320
> http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/
>
>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf Of
> *Anderson, Gretchen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 11:22 AM
> *To:* Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>; Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <
> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
> *Message sent from a system outside of UConn.*
>
>
>
> Very good question, Rob and Andy.  While I am all for transparency ? there
> are many situations that we probably should not openly discuss, especially
> if they are not resolved at this point. As Andy noted ? why air dirty
> laundry to the public? It will make it harder for our institutions to come
> to an equitable and rational solution.
>
>
> Gretchen
>
>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Rob
> Robins
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:56 AM
> *To:* Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes <
> dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
> What?s the end game here folks?
>
>
> Rob Robins
>
>
>
> Robert H. Robins
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Division of Ichthyology
>
> [image: FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
>
> Florida Museum of Natural History
>
> 1659 Museum Rd.
>
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>
> Office: (352) 273-1957
>
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu
>
>
>
> Search the Collection:
>
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
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> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
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> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamuseum.ufl.edu%2Fgrr%2Fholdings%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489567141%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BIcCtIHkSIuDLhqnx4rdv8%2B%2FvP2dimQjBleTn9EGxC0%3D&reserved=0>
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> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Tocci,
> Genevieve Elizabeth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
> *To:* Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
> *[External Email]*
>
> There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the
> early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might
> take some work now. Here are a few:
>
>
>
>
> https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkprotect.cudasvc.com%2Furl%3Fa%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252furldefense.proofpoint.com%252fv2%252furl%253fu%253dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%2526d%253dDwMGaQ%2526c%253dsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%2526r%253dMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%2526m%253d8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%2526s%253d8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%2526e%253d%26c%3DE%2C1%2CIHd87Uw2drIjpWG0ChXQzh1kG1II3RffrblnjBz5f5Z2k9VO1kLn04lDYRmEuAoxsQtNDysWGAPfTra_9Uvel0ZUbIl-hi7ngqg1RaldiYAdRe36Z89jyiaHIzs%2C%26typo%3D1&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489577102%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Rnw7H4Xnhz6VFf%2B2oHpOno3p8V3I4VIMvJLyZo1BEVk%3D&reserved=0>
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> https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid
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> =================================================
> Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
> Senior Curatorial Technician
> Harvard University Herbaria
> 22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
> Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu
>
>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Derek
> Sikes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>
>
>
> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
> Professor of Entomology
> University of Alaska Museum
>
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>
> 1962 Yukon Drive
> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>
> dssikes at alaska.edu
>
> phone: 907-474-6278
>
> FAX: 907-474-5469
> he/him/his
> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
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> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
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From asilid at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 12:43:06 2020
From: asilid at gmail.com (Derek Woller)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:43:06 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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I third what Sarah said! I also was curious about Derek's interest in such
stories, but he was quite clear about what he's looking for. And while I've
found all the tales submitted so far to be quite interesting, I do think
some haven't fit his specific request, which is what may have raised flags
in some cases. I think we can definitely learn from these situations and
this portion of Derek's course sounds particularly intriguing. I'm always a
fan of topics that engage students to critically think and actually discuss.

--
Derek A. Woller, Ph.D.
USDA Supervisory Entomologist, Rangeland Grasshopper and Mormon Cricket
Management Team
Phoenix, AZ, U.S.A.
Derek.A.Woller at usda.gov
Check out my wife's Etsy store where you can buy all sorts of neat vinyl
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Proud to be an explorer of the final biological frontier: entomology.




On Wed, Oct 14, 2020, 9:28 AM Patti Finkle <pfinkle at caspercollege.edu>
wrote:

> Well said sarah!
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, not to step on Derek?s toes or anything, but I thought his original
>> request ? ?no need to reply with stories of misbehavior? unless it?s an
>> already-published account involving specimens (not personnel) was the
>> opposite of a request to ?air dirty laundry.? If an account is published,
>> it?s already out there. Declining to discuss controversies doesn?t protect
>> our institutions, it gives secretive, cliquish optics that blow up when
>> they?re ?discovered.?
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a unit in our Intro to Natural History Collections course where
>> we specifically discuss ethical issues around collecting and museums using
>> real examples, with identifying information withheld. It?s always a VERY
>> lively discussion and the students come away with a much more thoughtful
>> exploration of issues and hopefully a strong commitment to acting ethically
>> than if we just said, ?don?t do x, y, or z, ok??
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously it?s fine to ask what this information is for, but I?m
>> perplexed by the automatic suspicion around it (and apologies if I missed a
>> post that clarified the purpose already?).
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>>
>>
>> Collections Manager, CONN
>>
>> George Safford Torrey Herbarium
>> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
>> *University of Connecticut*
>> 75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
>> Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
>> U.S.A.
>>
>> P: 860.486.1889
>> F: 860.486.4320
>> http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf
>> Of *Anderson, Gretchen
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 11:22 AM
>> *To:* Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>; Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <
>> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>;
>> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Message sent from a system outside of UConn.*
>>
>>
>>
>> Very good question, Rob and Andy.  While I am all for transparency ?
>> there are many situations that we probably should not openly discuss,
>> especially if they are not resolved at this point. As Andy noted ? why air
>> dirty laundry to the public? It will make it harder for our institutions to
>> come to an equitable and rational solution.
>>
>>
>> Gretchen
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Rob
>> Robins
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:56 AM
>> *To:* Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes
>> <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>> What?s the end game here folks?
>>
>>
>> Rob Robins
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert H. Robins
>>
>> Collection Manager
>>
>> Division of Ichthyology
>>
>> [image: FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
>>
>> Florida Museum of Natural History
>>
>> 1659 Museum Rd.
>>
>> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>>
>> Office: (352) 273-1957
>>
>> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> Search the Collection:
>>
>> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspecifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu%2Ffishes%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489567141%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sEPPRpYknAA0UWEVecorOTgk9w0M%2FEfHpFD%2FnDkntmE%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
>>
>> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamuseum.ufl.edu%2Fgrr%2Fholdings%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489567141%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BIcCtIHkSIuDLhqnx4rdv8%2B%2FvP2dimQjBleTn9EGxC0%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Tocci,
>> Genevieve Elizabeth
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
>> *To:* Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>> *[External Email]*
>>
>> There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in
>> the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles
>> might take some work now. Here are a few:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkprotect.cudasvc.com%2Furl%3Fa%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252furldefense.proofpoint.com%252fv2%252furl%253fu%253dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%2526d%253dDwMGaQ%2526c%253dsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%2526r%253dMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%2526m%253d8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%2526s%253d8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%2526e%253d%26c%3DE%2C1%2CIHd87Uw2drIjpWG0ChXQzh1kG1II3RffrblnjBz5f5Z2k9VO1kLn04lDYRmEuAoxsQtNDysWGAPfTra_9Uvel0ZUbIl-hi7ngqg1RaldiYAdRe36Z89jyiaHIzs%2C%26typo%3D1&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489577102%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Rnw7H4Xnhz6VFf%2B2oHpOno3p8V3I4VIMvJLyZo1BEVk%3D&reserved=0>
>>
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>> https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid
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>> =================================================
>> Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
>> Senior Curatorial Technician
>> Harvard University Herbaria
>> 22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
>> Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
>> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Derek
>> Sikes
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
>> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
>> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
>> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
>> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
>> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
>> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
>> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
>> Professor of Entomology
>> University of Alaska Museum
>>
>> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>>
>> 1962 Yukon Drive
>> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>>
>> dssikes at alaska.edu
>>
>> phone: 907-474-6278
>>
>> FAX: 907-474-5469
>> he/him/his
>> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
>> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
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>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
>> Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological
>> Network" at
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From bthiers at nybg.org  Wed Oct 14 12:49:26 2020
From: bthiers at nybg.org (Thiers, Barbara)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:49:26 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Digital Asset Manager at the New York Botanical Garden
 Herbarium
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Herbarium Digital Asset Manager

The Herbarium Digital Asset Manager reports to the Assistant Director of the Herbarium for Botanical Information Management and is responsible for the direction and management of the Herbarium?s Digital Imaging Center and the acquisition, management, long-term preservation, and access to the multimedia assets and associated metadata produced for the Garden?s C. V. Starr Virtual Herbarium. The position oversees the collection of 3.6 million herbarium specimen images, field photographs, and other scientific and scholarly digital materials, a collection rapidly expanding to include all 7.8 million digitized specimens and numerous other NYBG Science Division multimedia assets. The position requires knowledge of digital photography and lighting, still image post-processing methods and software, asset management within a collections management system, metadata standards, rights and usage, and digital image archiving. The position will be responsible for training and supervising imaging staff over multiple projects and refining streamlined digitization workflows.

Additionally, this position supports, through actions and conduct, NYBG?s Inclusion, Diversity, Equity and Accessibility initiatives and helps to build and maintain an inclusive organization culture throughout the institution.

The New York Botanical Garden is committed to a diverse, equitable, and inclusive work environment, and further recognizes that diversity in our workforce fosters excellence in our mission of advocating for the plants of the world. Leveraging the strong foundation of existing policies and practices, NYBG will advance diversity, equity, and inclusion through a number of institutional initiatives presented through this plan. Our aspiration is to continue to cultivate a workforce and institution that is as diverse as the communities we serve and the audiences we engage.

Specific Duties and Responsibilities:

  *   Manage the daily operation of the highly productive Digital Imaging Center and the digital assets produced therein for the Virtual Herbarium, including:
  *   Set up and maintenance of digitization equipment including multiple digital SLR cameras and lenses, lighting, scanners, and computer equipment; troubleshoot equipment and software problems; interact with vendors and technical staff.
  *   Oversee and train staff and volunteers to capture digital images of herbarium specimens and to digitize text, photographs, photographic slides, and other illustrative material; provide step-by-step instructions in operation of equipment and software; develop and update user manuals.
  *   Keep current with, refine, contribute to, and employ community best practices for efficient imaging workflows; maintain archival image quality control standards across multiple imaging stations; update digitization documentation.
  *   Manage, post-process, archive, and import to the collections management system all specimen images captured in the Digital Imaging Center, an average 20,000-60,000 per month, ?300,000-500,000/year.
  *   Manage the Virtual Herbarium digital asset archive; coordinate with the IT Department to purchase, expand, and migrate herbarium asset storage.
  *   Keep current with and employ best practices for image post-processing, archiving, usage rights and licensing, and multimedia metadata standards for biodiversity collections.
  *   Support and track status of multiple concurrent rapid digitization projects.
  *   Help prepare written text for grant proposals to funding agencies to support Virtual Herbarium digitization projects.
  *   Keep abreast of developments in digital imaging technologies, digital asset management tools, and web display applications for images and digital publishing; recommend upgrades as they apply to the Virtual Herbarium.
  *   Give presentations on NYBG digital asset management and digitization projects to visitors, donors, colleagues, and at national and international professional meetings.
  *   Ensure the Digital Imaging Center meets the needs of staff and other scientific and scholarly users in terms of quantity, quality, and type of images and data provided; fulfill Virtual Herbarium image requests.

Requirements:

  *   Demonstrated experience in digital project management, digital imaging and digital photography standards, management and long-term preservation of digital images.
  *   Experience in a museum or research library is strongly encouraged.
  *   Operating and maintaining digitization equipment, including digital SLR cameras, lighting, and scanners;
  *   Adobe Photoshop and Lightroom; Microsoft Excel and Access;
  *   Overseeing the production, post-processing, and management of large numbers of digital images;
  *   Community-based best practices for digital photography, image color management and profiling;
  *   All aspects of technical, administrative, and descriptive image metadata, including XMP, EXIF, and IPTC; familiarity with Audubon Core;
  *   Digital asset management systems and museum collections management systems, especially Axiell EMu;
  *   Training and supervising staff;
  *   Excellent verbal and written communication skills.

Preferable skills:

  *   Background in science, especially botany and taxonomy;
  *   Bulk image processing programs and general-purpose scripting languages (e.g. Perl, PowerShell, Python)

To apply, follow this link:

<https://www.nybg.org/about/work-with-us/employment/?p=job%2FoSQKdfwp>

https://www.nybg.org/about/work-with-us/employment/?p=job%2FoSQKdfwp


Dr. Barbara M. Thiers
Vice President
Patricia K. Holmgren Director
William and Lynda Steere Herbarium
The New York Botanical Garden
President, American Society of Plant Taxonomists (ASPT)
Past President, Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections (SPNHC)
Editor, Index Herbariorum
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From cgarcia at calacademy.org  Wed Oct 14 12:51:23 2020
From: cgarcia at calacademy.org (Christine Garcia)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 09:51:23 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Hi Derek,

Sounds like a very important topic to cover in a museum studies course.
Samuel George Morton's skull collection at Penn comes to mind. Gould's
critique of Morton's work and subsequent reexamination(s) by others of both
the collection and the available data are also a strong case for the
importance of maintaining and providing access to collections.

Best of luck!
Chrissy

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 9:28 AM Patti Finkle <pfinkle at caspercollege.edu>
wrote:

> Well said sarah!
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 10:23 AM Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Well, not to step on Derek?s toes or anything, but I thought his original
>> request ? ?no need to reply with stories of misbehavior? unless it?s an
>> already-published account involving specimens (not personnel) was the
>> opposite of a request to ?air dirty laundry.? If an account is published,
>> it?s already out there. Declining to discuss controversies doesn?t protect
>> our institutions, it gives secretive, cliquish optics that blow up when
>> they?re ?discovered.?
>>
>>
>>
>> We have a unit in our Intro to Natural History Collections course where
>> we specifically discuss ethical issues around collecting and museums using
>> real examples, with identifying information withheld. It?s always a VERY
>> lively discussion and the students come away with a much more thoughtful
>> exploration of issues and hopefully a strong commitment to acting ethically
>> than if we just said, ?don?t do x, y, or z, ok??
>>
>>
>>
>> Obviously it?s fine to ask what this information is for, but I?m
>> perplexed by the automatic suspicion around it (and apologies if I missed a
>> post that clarified the purpose already?).
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sarah
>>
>>
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>>
>>
>> Collections Manager, CONN
>>
>> George Safford Torrey Herbarium
>> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
>> *University of Connecticut*
>> 75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
>> Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
>> U.S.A.
>>
>> P: 860.486.1889
>> F: 860.486.4320
>> http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] *On Behalf
>> Of *Anderson, Gretchen
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 11:22 AM
>> *To:* Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>; Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <
>> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>;
>> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Message sent from a system outside of UConn.*
>>
>>
>>
>> Very good question, Rob and Andy.  While I am all for transparency ?
>> there are many situations that we probably should not openly discuss,
>> especially if they are not resolved at this point. As Andy noted ? why air
>> dirty laundry to the public? It will make it harder for our institutions to
>> come to an equitable and rational solution.
>>
>>
>> Gretchen
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Rob
>> Robins
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:56 AM
>> *To:* Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>; Derek Sikes
>> <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>> What?s the end game here folks?
>>
>>
>> Rob Robins
>>
>>
>>
>> Robert H. Robins
>>
>> Collection Manager
>>
>> Division of Ichthyology
>>
>> [image: FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
>>
>> Florida Museum of Natural History
>>
>> 1659 Museum Rd.
>>
>> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>>
>> Office: (352) 273-1957
>>
>> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> Search the Collection:
>>
>> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspecifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu%2Ffishes%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489567141%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=sEPPRpYknAA0UWEVecorOTgk9w0M%2FEfHpFD%2FnDkntmE%3D&reserved=0>
>>
>>
>>
>> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
>>
>> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamuseum.ufl.edu%2Fgrr%2Fholdings%2F&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489567141%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=%2BIcCtIHkSIuDLhqnx4rdv8%2B%2FvP2dimQjBleTn9EGxC0%3D&reserved=0>
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>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Tocci,
>> Genevieve Elizabeth
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
>> *To:* Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>> *[External Email]*
>>
>> There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in
>> the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles
>> might take some work now. Here are a few:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case
>> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Flinkprotect.cudasvc.com%2Furl%3Fa%3Dhttps%253a%252f%252furldefense.proofpoint.com%252fv2%252furl%253fu%253dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%2526d%253dDwMGaQ%2526c%253dsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%2526r%253dMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%2526m%253d8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%2526s%253d8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%2526e%253d%26c%3DE%2C1%2CIHd87Uw2drIjpWG0ChXQzh1kG1II3RffrblnjBz5f5Z2k9VO1kLn04lDYRmEuAoxsQtNDysWGAPfTra_9Uvel0ZUbIl-hi7ngqg1RaldiYAdRe36Z89jyiaHIzs%2C%26typo%3D1&data=04%7C01%7Csarah.taylor%40uconn.edu%7C9e96bb7850094a1f2e5e08d87054f5d5%7C17f1a87e2a254eaab9df9d439034b080%7C0%7C0%7C637382857489577102%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=Rnw7H4Xnhz6VFf%2B2oHpOno3p8V3I4VIMvJLyZo1BEVk%3D&reserved=0>
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>> https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid
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>>
>> =================================================
>> Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
>> Senior Curatorial Technician
>> Harvard University Herbaria
>> 22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138  U.S.A.
>> Phone: 617-495-1057  Fax: 617-495-9484
>> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Derek
>> Sikes
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
>> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
>> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
>> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
>> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
>> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
>> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
>> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Derek
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
>> Professor of Entomology
>> University of Alaska Museum
>>
>> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>>
>> 1962 Yukon Drive
>> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>>
>> dssikes at alaska.edu
>>
>> phone: 907-474-6278
>>
>> FAX: 907-474-5469
>> he/him/his
>> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
>> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
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>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>
>> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
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From neumann at snsb.de  Wed Oct 14 15:12:20 2020
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:12:20 +0200
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
In-Reply-To: <7138F177-63E1-4DA7-A332-77EAA3FDE8B7@ku.edu>
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... as Sarah said:

it surely highlights the need to evaluate - and where necessary - to 
improve our skills to manage reputational risks; for individual 
researchers, and - more important - for the institution they represent 
or with which the collaborate. This may include sending responses 
offline, where appropriate and required, to avoid exposure of 
individuals or institutions. But the cases circulated openly today 
already attracted the most possible attention, they are good examples to 
raise the awareness that action may be required already long before the 
shit hits the fan .... and not just before the very moment.

This especially, since countries like e.g? Peru (was one of the examples 
posted today) are actively searching publications to spot (potential) 
violations, or specific political stakeholders are keen to use iconic 
names e.g. in Nagoya-debates to blame collections as potential loopholes.

All these examples demonstrate the high reputational risk and the 
potentially massive damage it can cause for us and our institutions. As 
we can see from today's examples, such infringements are often 
associated with intermediaries or associated third parties and this - 
again - raises the question if we are equipped to manage such situations 
already before they occur.

All the best
Dirk

Am 14.10.2020 um 17:05 schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:
>
> Rob
>
> I was going to ask the same question.? Why are we airing all our dirty 
> laundry?
>
> Derek ? what is your need for this information?
>
> Andy
>
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>
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>
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>
> Andy Bentley
>
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>
> University of Kansas
>
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu <mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu 
> <http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>
>
> ???? A :??????????????? A? :??????????????? A? :
>
> ?}<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<)))_?>
>
> V?????????????????? V?????????????????? V
>
> *From: *Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Rob 
> Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
> *Date: *Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:56 AM
> *To: *"'glewis-g at oeb. edu'" <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>, Derek Sikes 
> <dssikes at alaska.edu>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" 
> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
> What?s the end game here folks?
>
>
> Rob Robins
>
> Robert H. Robins
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Division of Ichthyology
>
> FLMNH Fishes logo email small
>
> Florida Museum of Natural History
>
> 1659 Museum Rd.
>
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>
> Office: (352) 273-1957
>
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu <mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
>
> Search the Collection:
>
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/ 
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fspecifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu%2Ffishes%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637382841864947475&sdata=rBKXwCCEm%2FS6SpnhXg8cwk3datSHwYscFGmnyuKPoY8%3D&reserved=0>
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
>
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/ 
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.floridamuseum.ufl.edu%2Fgrr%2Fholdings%2F&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C1%7C637382841864947475&sdata=QPKzUOeDqrzu479pPsloZWWgjt%2BUeIlJt1f0eV%2FjXmc%3D&reserved=0>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of 
> *Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
> *To:* Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
> *[External Email]*
>
> There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in 
> the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the 
> articles might take some work now. Here are a few:
>
> https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case 
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3D8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864947475&sdata=pkQJsxYK0fLzDoDZx53arLtgM2uEdFi1kp0jRHBQGdU%3D&reserved=0>
>
> https://www.sarasotamagazine.com/news-and-profiles/2005/03/the-case-of-the-purloined-orchid 
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.sarasotamagazine.com_news-2Dand-2Dprofiles_2005_03_the-2Dcase-2Dof-2Dthe-2Dpurloined-2Dorchid%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3DOioH1xdHO_1l5A2kA2dkdK_Gekin6bXj3s8mYL1znEA%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864957432&sdata=hKB2D6giEmfrx4Aaho7qoosqfDLcGFGLAQO8xPJ%2BZfc%3D&reserved=0>
>
> =================================================
> Genevieve E. Tocci (she, her, hers)
> Senior Curatorial Technician
> Harvard University Herbaria
> 22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138? U.S.A.
> Phone: 617-495-1057? Fax: 617-495-9484
> glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu <mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu 
> <mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> *On Behalf Of *Derek Sikes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu <mailto:ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu>; 
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science 
> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from 
> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research 
> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>
> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the 
> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should 
> involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of 
> misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>
> Thanks!
>
> Derek
>
>
> -- 
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
> Professor of Entomology
> University of Alaska Museum
>
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>
> 1962 Yukon Drive
> Fairbanks, AK 99775-6960
>
> dssikes at alaska.edu <mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>
>
> phone: 907-474-6278
>
> FAX: 907-474-5469
> he/him/his
> University of Alaska Museum -? search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all 
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__www.uaf.edu_museum_collections_ento_%26d%3DDwMFaQ%26c%3DWO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ%26r%3DEYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No%26m%3DGfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A%26s%3DOBxDUkxG0XXhRUwcAXgP0oJfTsZQvfWeFhc5Whp3B7U%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864957432&sdata=wzPXZdlAYmAS1aOWbj2sv3oY%2BSBIFD%2FllesGRmr%2FTko%3D&reserved=0>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
> Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological 
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From acsmith777 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 14 15:29:50 2020
From: acsmith777 at gmail.com (Omega Smith)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 14:29:50 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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I know you specified *published*, so the farthest I professionally and
personally can help you with the deplorable conditions in which collections
at a certain museum were kept - conditions which I not only witnessed, but
spent a year trying to ameliorate (as a worker there I only had so much
power to give the fossil and mineral collections a safe environment,
ironically). On the other hand, I believe I stil have somewhere at least
one photograph of the black mold in one of the collections rooms and the
video I took where I took a screw out of the floor of another collection
that was extremely rusted due to recurring human waste flooding within that
room.

If you are asking for the sake of showing students what not to do, then I
would suggest we talk about it sometime. I had mentioned these collection
conditions (there are much more problems than the above) to the director at
a previous museum for which I worked and he asked if I would tell him more
about it so HE could warn students about some of the worst things that can
happen to a collection.

As far as the dirty laundry take - for that reason you will have a far
harder time finding published material on this subject than unpublished,
authoritative information. Let me know if you'd like to hear the
information I have.

Dr. Omega Smith
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From AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org  Wed Oct 14 15:41:12 2020
From: AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org (Anderson, Gretchen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:41:12 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Ok, That makes more sense. Thank you.
Gretchen

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 12:03 PM
To: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

All,

Thanks for all the feedback! Sorry I didn't add that this is for a museum studies course. The rationale is that only by knowing how things have gone wrong can we avoid them going wrong in the future.

-Derek

On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 7:05 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>> wrote:
Rob

I was going to ask the same question.  Why are we airing all our dirty laundry?

Derek ? what is your need for this information?

Andy

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>>
Date: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 at 9:56 AM
To: "'glewis-g at oeb. edu'" <glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu<mailto:glewis-g at oeb.harvard.edu>>, Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

What?s the end game here folks?

Rob Robins

Robert H. Robins
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Florida Museum of Natural History
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Office: (352) 273-1957
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Tocci, Genevieve Elizabeth
Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:28 AM
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

[External Email]
There was the orchid controversy at the Selby Botanical Garden back in the early 2000s. It was all over the news though digging up the articles might take some work now. Here are a few:

https://www.heraldtribune.com/news/20031218/selby-pleads-guilty-in-orchid-case<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__www.heraldtribune.com_news_20031218_selby-2Dpleads-2Dguilty-2Din-2Dorchid-2Dcase%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3D8o2fyOhZuXIEmPgP567F5oUJv_lO1AuwEV5LCWmfJR0%26s%3D8JJeUgYPVbG8VKd9BguLWczqoabUrAcm2m4L1FmOeNs%26e%3D&data=02%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0e55c246c4ce4a60bffc08d8705151c3%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637382841864947475&sdata=pkQJsxYK0fLzDoDZx53arLtgM2uEdFi1kp0jRHBQGdU%3D&reserved=0>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Derek Sikes
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



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phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
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From alexandriasun at ymail.com  Wed Oct 14 15:49:19 2020
From: alexandriasun at ymail.com (Alexandria Sun)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 15:49:19 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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First time responding to a thread here.

Would the loss of French herbarium specimens due to Australia?s customs policies a few years back be relevant here?

https://camd.org.au/quarantine-herbarium-destruction-protocol/ <https://camd.org.au/quarantine-herbarium-destruction-protocol/>

Alexandria Sun

alexandriasun.weebly.com


> On Oct 14, 2020, at 3:30 PM, Omega Smith <acsmith777 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I know you specified *published*, so the farthest I professionally and personally can help you with the deplorable conditions in which collections at a certain museum were kept - conditions which I not only witnessed, but spent a year trying to ameliorate (as a worker there I only had so much power to give the fossil and mineral collections a safe environment, ironically). On the other hand, I believe I stil have somewhere at least one photograph of the black mold in one of the collections rooms and the video I took where I took a screw out of the floor of another collection that was extremely rusted due to recurring human waste flooding within that room. 
> 
> If you are asking for the sake of showing students what not to do, then I would suggest we talk about it sometime. I had mentioned these collection conditions (there are much more problems than the above) to the director at a previous museum for which I worked and he asked if I would tell him more about it so HE could warn students about some of the worst things that can happen to a collection.
> 
> As far as the dirty laundry take - for that reason you will have a far harder time finding published material on this subject than unpublished, authoritative information. Let me know if you'd like to hear the information I have.
> 
> Dr. Omega Smith
> acsmith777 at gmail.com <mailto:acsmith777 at gmail.com>
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From a.g.knox at abdn.ac.uk  Wed Oct 14 15:53:07 2020
From: a.g.knox at abdn.ac.uk (Knox, Dr Alan G.)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 19:53:07 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Hi Derek

And another: not sure if there is anything you could use here as well. Bit dated now but some comments still relevant.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/280315152_Under_the_skin_the_bird_collections_of_the_Natural_History_Museum

This paper describes briefly the museum at Tring, outlines the scope and nature of the NHM bird collections and presents information about the specimens and their documentation. Attention is drawn to some of the possible sources of inaccuracy associated with museum data. Some of this information is relevant to any large collection. The curatorial comments may be of interest to staff with responsibilities for bird collections in other museums.

Alan

From: Knox, Dr Alan G.
Sent: 14 October 2020 09:17
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>
Subject: RE: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

Hi Derek

Not sure where you are trying to go with this but is this any use:

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/229670308_Richard_Meinertzhagen-a_case_of_fraud_examined

Museum collections are rich repositories of information. The specimens and the data they bear continue to provide new insights into ornithology and biological processes decades or even centuries after they were collected. The benefits to be gained from museum collections depend implicitly upon the accuracy of the information associated with the specimens and the correct interpretation of those data (Parkes 1989, Knox & Walters 1992). Collectors and dealers have often been suspected of fabricating data for a variety of reasons, but proven cases have been documented only rarely (e.g. Nicholson & Ferguson-Lees 1962). This paper examines one such case.

Alan

Dr Alan Knox
Emeritus Head of Museums
University of Aberdeen
King's College
Aberdeen AB24 3SW

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Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<http://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento/>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
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From peterar at berkeley.edu  Wed Oct 14 16:18:05 2020
From: peterar at berkeley.edu (Peter A Rauch)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 13:18:05 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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 Derek,
"Controversial" insofar as a question about security of (access to)
collections. and about ability to detect breaches of security and changes
to collection holdings; is "published"; is "detailed"; does directly
involve "taking on" specimens, so to speak.

The Feather Thief: Beauty, Obsession, and the Natural History Heist of the
Century Paperback ? Illustrated, April 23, 2019, by Kirk Wallace Johnson

Peter



> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Derek
> Sikes
> *Sent:* 14 October 2020 02:45
> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>
>
>
> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Derek
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
> Professor of Entomology
> University of Alaska Museum
>
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>
> 1962 Yukon Drive
> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>
> dssikes at alaska.edu
>
> phone: 907-474-6278
>
> FAX: 907-474-5469
> he/him/his
> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
> <http://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento/>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
> Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological
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From wpoly at calacademy.org  Wed Oct 14 16:58:03 2020
From: wpoly at calacademy.org (William Poly)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 16:58:03 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Hi Derek,

See the stories of Colonel Richard Meinertzhagen, who had been in the
British military in Africa and India and also was an ornithologist.  It
turned out he also committed much fraud concerning some of his published
bird records -- he'd steal specimens from museum collections and relabel
them as his own.  I can send some specific literature references if you
like.

Bill

*William J. Poly*

*Research Associate*

*Department of Ichthyology*

*California Academy of Sciences*

*55 Music Concourse Drive, Golden Gate Park*

*San Francisco, California 94118*

*wpoly at calacademy.org <wpoly at calacademy.org>*

*https://www.calacademy.org/scientists/ichthyology/wpoly
<https://www.calacademy.org/scientists/ichthyology/wpoly>*

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:45 PM Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu> wrote:

>
>
> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>
> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>
> Thanks!
> Derek
>
>
>
> --
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
> Professor of Entomology
> University of Alaska Museum
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
> 1962 Yukon Drive
> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>
> dssikes at alaska.edu
>
> phone: 907-474-6278
> FAX: 907-474-5469
> he/him/his
> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
> <http://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento/>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
> Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological
> Network" at
> http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us
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From Erik.Ahlander at nrm.se  Wed Oct 14 17:28:59 2020
From: Erik.Ahlander at nrm.se (=?utf-8?B?RXJpayDDhWhsYW5kZXI=?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:28:59 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Dear Derek,

This is only partly published, but may be of interest:

The Swedish Museum of Natural History, Stockholm was founded in 1819. Gustaf von Paykull donated his collection (mainly birds and insects) to the state of Sweden on the condition that a National Museum was founded. The problem was that many of the specimens was stolen by von Paykull from other Swedish collections (maybe also in Germany and France) including from the Royal Swedish Academy Sciences which institution was to administer the museum and Paykull?s collection from the beginning and the following 150 years. Paykull probably burnt all documents concerning his collection and we still struggle to understand the origin of the specimens.


Erik ?hlander
vertebrate zoology and museum history

ZOO
Swedish Museum of Natural History
PO Box 50007
SE-10405 Stockholm
Sweden
+46 0 8 5195 4118
+46 0 70 225 2716
erik.ahlander at nrm.se


Fr?n: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> F?r Derek Sikes
Skickat: den 14 oktober 2020 03:45
Till: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
?mne: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?



Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<https://url11.mailanyone.net/v1/?m=1kSVrL-0005bQ-4k&i=57e1b682&c=HItUYvgnqivBj8bOWpPZzWPQbNeh0vh3yHLRGDUuRLEKH8CaCw0c1ysqmb7xjyrPTmLR3iTJdUAwQVbOEj7iwGPn7SDJTsJ5sBGLsqyqlJ21M6f5T-u5a8XgbwfOTgh_lVVo0YM2b-PzPhL9bFzfJobM6WkPJXmL63XCzLVFzo1Obfx9Y-HMVeLIrXhWu_RBE-m342_XS_E54KDyRPF6v3Gv2ZC_Kzs-2viyZvFfigYpVpZVkqqy-KmJBV4Qi1Yh>
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Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
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From Tonya.Haff at csiro.au  Wed Oct 14 17:36:18 2020
From: Tonya.Haff at csiro.au (Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace))
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 21:36:18 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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Very interesting thread, and I also second, third, or 10th what Sarah had to say.

Chris Filardi's collecting of a Moustached Kingfisher also came to mind, though it's only published in Audubon and not a peer reviewed journal, and it was a controversy about collecting, not collections.  https://www.audubon.org/news/why-i-collected-moustached-kingfisher
[https://nas-national-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/styles/hero_mobile/s3/800px-actenoidesbougainvilleikeulemans.jpg?itok=NchgIeta]<https://www.audubon.org/news/why-i-collected-moustached-kingfisher>
Why I Collected a Moustached Kingfisher | Audubon<https://www.audubon.org/news/why-i-collected-moustached-kingfisher>
Editor's Note: Last week, we published a story detailing how researchers in Guadalcanal had found and photographed the first male Moustached Kingfisher ever recorded, then euthanized the individual bird to preserve as part of the scientific record. Many readers expressed concern at the specimen collection, so we reached out to the researcher, who explains his decision below.
www.audubon.org


There are very good reasons to still collect, but I find that the general public opinion is still quite negative, due in large part misunderstandings and preconceptions. In addition, there is often great reluctance to get in front of such potential controversy to reframe in the public perception of what collecting is today. Anyway, this is probably tangential from what you asked for Derek!

Cheers,

Tonya

________________________________
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of William Poly <wpoly at calacademy.org>
Sent: Thursday, 15 October 2020 6:58 AM
To: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>
Cc: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu <ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?

Hi Derek,

See the stories of Colonel Richard Meinertzhagen, who had been in the British military in Africa and India and also was an ornithologist.  It turned out he also committed much fraud concerning some of his published bird records -- he'd steal specimens from museum collections and relabel them as his own.  I can send some specific literature references if you like.

Bill


William J. Poly

Research Associate

Department of Ichthyology

California Academy of Sciences

55 Music Concourse Drive, Golden Gate Park

San Francisco, California 94118

wpoly at calacademy.org<mailto:wpoly at calacademy.org>

https://www.calacademy.org/scientists/ichthyology/wpoly

On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:45 PM Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>> wrote:


Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu<mailto:dssikes at alaska.edu>

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<http://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento/>
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
Society and / or sign up for the email listserv "Alaska Entomological Network" at
http://www.akentsoc.org/contact_us
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From amast at bio.fsu.edu  Wed Oct 14 18:17:38 2020
From: amast at bio.fsu.edu (Austin Mast)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:17:38 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Strategic Planning for Biodiversity Collections
Message-ID: <50B55F6C-DE9C-40F1-ADDE-BA1D42DE9585@fsu.edu>

Dear Colleagues,

iDigBio is pleased to announce a 7-week "Strategic Planning for Biodiversity Collections? online course.

Take this opportunity to introduce new purpose and excitement into your organization.  Prepare to relate your collection?s compelling vision to stakeholders and discuss long-term goals and strategies with administrators.

All collection types (insects, birds, fish, fossils, plants, etc.), collection settings (natural history museums, universities, field stations, government agencies, etc.), and locations on Earth are welcome to apply, though the scheduled time might make it difficult for people in some locations to participate.  Discussions and presentations will be in English.  If you are part of a herbarium, you might like to wait to take the ?Strategic Planning for Herbaria? course that we will offer in spring 2021 in collaboration with the Society of Herbarium Curators.  However, those from herbaria are also welcome to apply for this course, which will have a more diverse set of collections in attendance.

The ?Strategic Planning for Biodiversity Collections? course will occur on Mondays from 3:00?4:00 Eastern Time from November 2?December 14, 2020.  We anticipate that the course will require 3?5 hours of work per week, including the 1 hour in-class.  The goal is to produce a short (5?10 pages) strategic plan for each represented biodiversity collection.  Each plan will address vision, mission, stakeholders, strategies, goals, objectives, evaluation, and sustainability, among other things. The process is at least as valuable as the product, and you might find that the exercises benefit your organization in unexpected ways. We have previously worked on strategic planning with over 90 biodiversity collections.

The course will be capped at a size to ensure adequate opportunities to participate in discussions.  We are looking for creative, committed participants who can help us to build momentum for this as an annual event.  If multiple individuals from a biodiversity collection are interested in participating in the course, we ask that one formally apply and the others participate in the out-of-class exercises and brainstorming sessions.

A draft syllabus of the course is available at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XKx33ieVCBeZISqw8zg4r7iRKG6dVnsOJebmK1q4P6M/preview

To apply, please fill out this short Google Form (https://forms.gle/HK4nQUXMWCi8kqnDA) by October 26.  Admission decisions will be made shortly thereafter.

Please share this announcement with relevant communities.

With best regards,

David Jennings (iDigBio?s Project Manager) and Austin Mast (Director of iDigBio?s Digitization, Workforce Development, and Citizen Science Domain)

Austin Mast ? Professor ? Department of Biological Science ? 319 Stadium Drive ? Florida State University ? Tallahassee, FL 32306-4295 ? U.S.A. ? (850) 645-1500 ? amast at bio.fsu.edu<mailto:amast at bio.fsu.edu> ? he/him



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From mazin at qumsiyeh.org  Thu Oct 15 08:54:22 2020
From: mazin at qumsiyeh.org (Mazin Qumsiyeh)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 15:54:22 +0300
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
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In light of the discussion that ensued, I share with you an article
(attached) I wrote 30 years ago about the nature of controversies in
evolutionary biology (I argue against black and white partisanship and for
a data driven approach). May be marginally relevant to some of you :-)
1990. On the nature of controversies in evolutionary biology. Perspectives
in Biology and Medicine,  33(3):421-430.

Mazin

Mazin Qumsiyeh
Professor, Founder, and (volunteer) Director
Palestine Museum of Natural History
Palestine Institute of Biodiversity and Sustainability
Bethlehem University
Occupied Palestine
<http://qumsiyeh.org>http://palestinenature.org


>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> * On Behalf Of *Derek
> Sikes
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 13, 2020 9:45 PM
> *To:* ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
> controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
> taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
> conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.
>
>
>
> Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
> details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
> museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
> museum personnel if specimens were not involved).
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Derek
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
> Professor of Entomology
> University of Alaska Museum
>
> University of Alaska Fairbanks
>
> 1962 Yukon Drive
> Fairbanks, AK   99775-6960
>
> dssikes at alaska.edu
>
> phone: 907-474-6278
>
> FAX: 907-474-5469
> he/him/his
> University of Alaska Museum  -  search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
> http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all
> <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.uaf.edu_museum_collections_ento_&d=DwMFaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=EYdhJ0HrhAMcA2aVQ-I4N7lml00zxsXPbHYeP7843No&m=GfFWthYH2fLuNxhS4hENokOCeeRumg4P4J8rEPVCb5A&s=OBxDUkxG0XXhRUwcAXgP0oJfTsZQvfWeFhc5Whp3B7U&e=>
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From adelaide5mon at yahoo.co.uk  Fri Oct 16 09:58:22 2020
From: adelaide5mon at yahoo.co.uk (Adelaide Sallema)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 13:58:22 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Journal of entomology
References: <885153778.351702.1602856702197.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <885153778.351702.1602856702197@mail.yahoo.com>

Hi, I am Adelaide working with National Museum of Tanzania. currently I am coordinating a project on Lepidoptera pollinator and I would like to have my research paper results published in international journal. Kindly could you assist me with a list of? journals for submitting my paper? Also I am looking for one who can assist in reviewing my article or if know someone else who can assist on that.Thank you

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From dpaul at fsu.edu  Sat Oct 17 09:48:02 2020
From: dpaul at fsu.edu (Deborah Paul)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 2020 09:48:02 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Biodiversity Information Standards TDWG2020 Conference
 Starts Monday!
Message-ID: <113a6fe0-7b98-138e-ab82-4a160ce5b9d9@fsu.edu>

Greetings all! RE: data standards for biodiversity data
The Biodiversity Information Standards (TDWG) organization offers you 
free registration in Eventbrite 
<https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tdwg-2020-virtual-conference-1924-october-tickets-118881005287>to 
the virtual TDWG 2020 conference 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/>. SPNHC is a key stakeholder in 
the biodiversity data standards community. Please join us to add your 
ideas and insights to the standards,software, tools, and methods we need 
for sharing biodiversity data that will make our future selves glad. 
Conference Theme: Biodiversity Information Standards: Integrating Data 
from Local to Global Solutions, 19?23 October (depending on your time zone).

See the overview Conference Schedule 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/conference-schedule/>and detailed 
Session List <https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/session-list/>, both 
now posted for you peruse and plan for the talks, sessions, or events 
that you want to attend. Abstracts for all presentations are now 
published in TDWG Proceedings 2020 
<https://biss.pensoft.net/collection/222/>.

Did I mention Registration is Free 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/>(scroll down to "Register Now" 
button), but also required to attend live sessions?
Please be sure to have a look at our Plenary Speakers 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/session-list/>! And note we have 
3 Social Hours 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/session-list/#social%20sessions> 
in the works too.
Did you miss the September working sessions 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/#two%20weeks%20of%20tdwg%202020>? 
Catch the recorded video on TDWG?s YouTube 
<https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3k926cEitgTHn0ib9FvJHA>channel or 
choose specific sessions 
<https://www.tdwg.org/conferences/2020/working-sessions/>to catch up on, 
including an Introduction to TDWG.

Please spread the word on twitter #tdwg2020, Facebook, Instagram, etc.

Hope to see you there! Send any questions to conf-organizers at tdwg.org

from the TDWG2020 Conference Organizers PS yes these sessions are being 
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From Nicole.Volden at state.nm.us  Mon Oct 19 15:42:25 2020
From: Nicole.Volden at state.nm.us (Volden, Nicole, DCA)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 19:42:25 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
Message-ID: <ed088627f52a444e8919d65bb20b0b47@MBXCAS001.nmes.lcl>


In general, the topic of Burmese amber and whether it is ethical for museums and researchers to buy and publish on these, sometimes spectacular, specimens:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/05/fossils-burmese-amber-offer-exquisite-view-dinosaur-times-and-ethical-minefield

Nicole Volden
Geoscience Collections Manager
New Mexico Museum of Natural History and Science
1801 Mountain Road NW
Albuquerque, NM 87104
505-841-2843
nicole.volden at state.nm.us


Message: 1
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2020 17:45:18 -0800
From: Derek Sikes <dssikes at alaska.edu>
To: ECN-L at listserv.unl.edu, nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Natural history museum controversies?
Message-ID:
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Do any of you know of any *published* natural history / science
controversies in museums that are quite famous? These could range from
taking on specimens or collections that are controversial, to research
conducted by museums staff/curators that was deemed controversial, etc.

Ideally, I'd like a publication or documentary / video that has the
details. No need to reply with unpublished accounts! & These should involve
museum specimens (so no need to reply with stories of misbehaviors of
museum personnel if specimens were not involved).

Thanks!
Derek



--

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Derek S. Sikes, Curator of Insects
Professor of Entomology
University of Alaska Museum
University of Alaska Fairbanks
1962 Yukon Drive
Fairbanks, AK 99775-6960

dssikes at alaska.edu

phone: 907-474-6278
FAX: 907-474-5469
he/him/his
University of Alaska Museum - search 400,276 digitized arthropod records
http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all<http://arctos.database.museum/uam_ento_all>
<http://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento/<http://www.uaf.edu/museum/collections/ento>>
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Interested in Alaskan Entomology? Join the Alaska Entomological
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From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Thu Oct 22 07:47:48 2020
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:47:48 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] earthen plaster or clay plaster
Message-ID: <98b791aa9be14f1682e8cf492e12bb73@loodusmuuseum.ee>

Dear all

Do you have any experience about what materials use for collections rooms walls.
Is earthen plaster or clay plaster safe for collections?

Best regards!
Lennart Lennuk
Head of zoology
Estonian Museum of Natural History
+372 6603404, 56569916



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From sergio.montagud at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 08:15:41 2020
From: sergio.montagud at gmail.com (Sergio Montagud)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:15:41 +0200
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] snake moult skins collection
Message-ID: <76E47173-7E94-4FCF-BBCE-0422FAE9590A@gmail.com>

We have received a batch of snake moult skins, which are in cardboard boxes and in different positions. We would be interested in preserve all these material with a recommended protocol for Natural History collections. Can anyone recommend us a procedure?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

Sergio 

 

Sergio Montagud Alario

Museu [UV] Hist?ria Natural

Universitat de Val?ncia

e-mail: sergio.montagud at uv.es

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From gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il  Thu Oct 22 08:31:07 2020
From: gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il (Gali Beiner)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:31:07 +0300
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Shark preparation protocol
Message-ID: <CAF3y2wj85TwEyOZZDDEQj72Ty_+tqZH00cODKRCPnqitpR3taA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

We need to deal with preparation of several shark specimens - in this case,
defleshing (maceration) to receive skeletal parts. Since shark
skeletons are so special (keratin!), I'd like to ask for advice concerning
recommended maceration procedures.

I did find a publication entitled A complete protocol for the preparation
of chondrichthyan skeletal specimens (Enault et al., 2016) - I'll be happy
to receive comments and recommendations, since we need the skeletal
material to enter the collections and be used for morphological study.

Thanks,

Gali

-- 
Gali Beiner (ACR)
Conservator, Palaeontology Lab
National Natural History Collections
The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Berman Building, Edmond J. Safra campus, Givat Ram
Jerusalem 91904, Israel
Fax. 972-2-6585785
*gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il <gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il>*

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From neumann at snsb.de  Thu Oct 22 08:30:15 2020
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 14:30:15 +0200
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] earthen plaster or clay plaster
In-Reply-To: <98b791aa9be14f1682e8cf492e12bb73@loodusmuuseum.ee>
References: <98b791aa9be14f1682e8cf492e12bb73@loodusmuuseum.ee>
Message-ID: <333f9f97-9e49-a4f1-ce78-baecce2a43e7@snsb.de>

Dear Lennart,

it might be worth contacting colleagues in Berlin (Peter Bartsch); they 
installed a wall heating/cooling system that is installed within the 
plastering of the storage room walls which is covered by a clay 
rendering. This plastering is considered to balance relative air 
humidity fluctuations within the storage area.

There is a nice publication of Peter and colleagues about the planning & 
reconstruction works of the collections in Berlin, including the iconic 
East Wing with its new fluid storage; you can download the PDF here: 
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Bartsch4/publication/280555526_Bartsch_P_Quaisser_C_Giere_P_Theuer-Kock_A_Feck_N_2013_New_meets_old_-_the_requirements_and_limits_of_new_collection_facilities_at_the_Museum_fur_Naturkunde_Berlin_-_Climate_for_Collections_Standards_/links/55b8d92808ae9289a08f4b55/Bartsch-P-Quaisser-C-Giere-P-Theuer-Kock-A-Feck-N-2013-New-meets-old-the-requirements-and-limits-of-new-collection-facilities-at-the-Museum-fuer-Naturkunde-Berlin-Climate-for-Collections.pdf

The publication includes results of the monitoring they did prior and 
after the renovation works. As a result, they decided against 
installation of humidifying/dehumidifying units to control relative 
humidity within the storage area, because if such units fail, they may 
cause huge damage to collections.

Hope this helps
Dirk


Am 22.10.2020 um 13:47 schrieb Lennart Lennuk:
>
> Dear all
>
> Do you have any experience about what materials use for collections 
> rooms walls.
>
> Is earthen plaster or clay plaster safe for collections?
>
> Best regards!
>
> Lennart Lennuk
>
> Head of zoology
>
> Estonian Museum of Natural History
>
> +372 6603404, 56569916
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.


-- 


Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

Postanschrift:

Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
M?nchhausenstr. 21
81247 M?nchen

Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/

---------

Dirk Neumann

Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

postal address:

Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
Muenchhausenstr. 21
81247 Munich (Germany)

Visit our section at:
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From j at jk-conservation.com  Thu Oct 22 08:48:56 2020
From: j at jk-conservation.com (Dr Jonathan Kemp)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 23:48:56 +1100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] earthen plaster or clay plaster
In-Reply-To: <333f9f97-9e49-a4f1-ce78-baecce2a43e7@snsb.de>
References: <98b791aa9be14f1682e8cf492e12bb73@loodusmuuseum.ee>
 <333f9f97-9e49-a4f1-ce78-baecce2a43e7@snsb.de>
Message-ID: <07946ff9-37da-23ea-4257-40c77ee18d7b@jk-conservation.com>

Dear Lennart

You might want to look at some of the work and long term studies by the 
late Tim Padfield who worked extensively in this area

https://www.conservationphysics.org/

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Tim_Padfield

best

Jonathan

On 22/10/20 11:30 pm, Dirk Neumann wrote:
> Dear Lennart,
>
> it might be worth contacting colleagues in Berlin (Peter Bartsch); 
> they installed a wall heating/cooling system that is installed within 
> the plastering of the storage room walls which is covered by a clay 
> rendering. This plastering is considered to balance relative air 
> humidity fluctuations within the storage area.
>
> There is a nice publication of Peter and colleagues about the planning 
> & reconstruction works of the collections in Berlin, including the 
> iconic East Wing with its new fluid storage; you can download the PDF 
> here: 
> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Bartsch4/publication/280555526_Bartsch_P_Quaisser_C_Giere_P_Theuer-Kock_A_Feck_N_2013_New_meets_old_-_the_requirements_and_limits_of_new_collection_facilities_at_the_Museum_fur_Naturkunde_Berlin_-_Climate_for_Collections_Standards_/links/55b8d92808ae9289a08f4b55/Bartsch-P-Quaisser-C-Giere-P-Theuer-Kock-A-Feck-N-2013-New-meets-old-the-requirements-and-limits-of-new-collection-facilities-at-the-Museum-fuer-Naturkunde-Berlin-Climate-for-Collections.pdf
>
> The publication includes results of the monitoring they did prior and 
> after the renovation works. As a result, they decided against 
> installation of humidifying/dehumidifying units to control relative 
> humidity within the storage area, because if such units fail, they may 
> cause huge damage to collections.
>
> Hope this helps
> Dirk
>
>
> Am 22.10.2020 um 13:47 schrieb Lennart Lennuk:
>>
>> Dear all
>>
>> Do you have any experience about what materials use for collections 
>> rooms walls.
>>
>> Is earthen plaster or clay plaster safe for collections?
>>
>> Best regards!
>>
>> Lennart Lennuk
>>
>> Head of zoology
>>
>> Estonian Museum of Natural History
>>
>> +372 6603404, 56569916
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nhcoll-l mailing list
>> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
>> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
>> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
>> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
>> society. Seehttp://www.spnhc.org  for membership information.
>> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
>
>
> -- 
>
>
> Dirk Neumann
>
> Tel: 089 / 8107-111
> Fax: 089 / 8107-300
> neumann(a)snsb.de
>
> Postanschrift:
>
> Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
> Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
> Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
> M?nchhausenstr. 21
> 81247 M?nchen
>
> Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
> http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/
>
> ---------
>
> Dirk Neumann
>
> Tel: +49-89-8107-111
> Fax: +49-89-8107-300
> neumann(a)snsb.de
>
> postal address:
>
> Bavarian Natural History Collections
> The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
> Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
> Muenchhausenstr. 21
> 81247 Munich (Germany)
>
> Visit our section at:
> http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.

-- 
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http://jk-conservation.com

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From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Thu Oct 22 09:17:15 2020
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:17:15 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety
Message-ID: <316a2ec2989e47fbaa108551b8ee0368@loodusmuuseum.ee>

Dear all!

I have urgent question about fire safety in fluid-preserved collections.
We are planning new building for Estonian Museum of Natural History and until last week it was not considering the potential danger of ca 15 cubic meters of fluid-preserved specimens, speaking of 12 tonnes of 70-75 % ethanol.

I need some examples from the best of this world. We had meeting last week with our fire-safety specialist but he seemed to have no knowledge or skill to deal with such amount of ethanol.

Most important questions are:

a)      In case of fire, how to exit? Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?

b)      Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?
I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.
We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.
An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.


So far I have checked NPS, ConserveOGram, Collection Forum, spnhc wiki and STASHC but have not find any specific information about that:

1.         Simmons, John E. Fluid Preservation.

2.         ? Storage Concerns For Fluid-Preserved Collections. Conserve O Gram 11, 1?4 (1999).

3.         Marte, F. & Solazzo, C. The Stability of Natural History Specimens In Fluid-preserved Collections. 10.

4.         Neumann, D. & Carter, J. Baseline Standards for Fluid Collections. 47.

5.         MacLeod, I. D. Conservation of a museum megamouth shark specimen by changing its preservative from aqueous ethanol to aqueous glycerol. Collection Forum 29, 73?89 (2015).

Best regards!
Lennart Lennuk
Head of zoology
Estonian Museum of Natural History
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From gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu  Thu Oct 22 09:34:20 2020
From: gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu (Nelson,Gil)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:34:20 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Webinar Tuesday: Adapting to COVID-19: Resources for
 Natural History Collections in a New Virtual World Series
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Please join us Tuesday for the second webinar "Executing Virtual Events: Lessons learned from Digital Data & SPNHC Conference Planners" in the iDigBio series Adapting to COVID-19: Resources for Natural History Collections in a New Virtual World<https://www.idigbio.org/content/webinar-series-adapting-covid-resources-natural-history-collections-new-virtual-world>.

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iDigBio recognizes the rapid changes happening within museum communities and the efforts being made throughout the community to adapt to these changes. We hope that this webinar series can help to provide insight into how different groups and institutions are adapting to life in a quickly evolving world. All webinars will be recorded and held in Zoom.

Tuesday, August 25th at 2:00 - 3:30 ET: Executing Virtual Events: Lessons learned from Digital Data & SPNHC Conference Planners
Topics to include: Zoom, Social Media/Advertising, Audience Engagement/Managing Expectations, Day of Roles and Responsibilities, Moderators/ Tech Support, Social Engagements, Accessibility, Surveys, Meeting formats moving forward

Zoom link: https://ufl.zoom.us/j/99571640979?pwd=V0VwbDBySEtBYUptNUZ2L0RQNGh0UT09

Follow the Zoom link above to join Tuesday's webinar and please visit the webinar series page for information on the additional webinars that will be featured in this series: https://www.idigbio.org/content/webinar-series-adapting-covid-resources-natural-history-collections-new-virtual-world

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Florida Museum of Natural History
508-887-6043
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From gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu  Thu Oct 22 09:44:03 2020
From: gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu (Nelson,Gil)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 13:44:03 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Virtual Project Management, Tips and Tools
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Please join us next Tuesday, October 27th for the fourth webinar "Virtual Project Management, Tips and Tools" in the iDigBio series Adapting to COVID-19: Resources for Natural History Collections in a New Virtual World<https://www.idigbio.org/content/webinar-series-adapting-covid-resources-natural-history-collections-new-virtual-world>.

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iDigBio recognizes the rapid changes happening within museum communities and the efforts being made throughout the community to adapt to these changes. We hope that this webinar series can help to provide insight into how different groups and institutions are adapting to life in a quickly evolving world. All webinars will be recorded and held in Zoom.

October 27: Virtual Project Management, Tips and Tools
Join us for an informative webinar focused on the basics of project management followed by lessons learned from the iDigBio community through managing multi-institution digitization projects (e.g. ADBC Thematic Collections Networks).
Topics to include: organization,  project tracking, communication strategies, and compiling and preparing reports. There will also be time for Q&A at the end of the webinar.
Speakers: Diego Barroso; Project Manager TORCH TCN, BRIT, Jen Zaspel; Terrestrial Parasite Tracker Lead PI & David Jennings, Project Manager, iDigBio
Zoom link: https://ufl.zoom.us/j/99571640979?pwd=V0VwbDBySEtBYUptNUZ2L0RQNGh0UT09

Follow the Zoom link above to join Tuesday's webinar and please visit the webinar series page for information on the additional webinars that will be featured in this series: https://www.idigbio.org/content/webinar-series-adapting-covid-resources-natural-history-collections-new-virtual-world

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From neumann at snsb.de  Thu Oct 22 10:35:08 2020
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:35:08 +0200
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and
 safety
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Dear Lennart,

might be worth if you would call me - we just going through the 
renovation work of our climate control system, and fire safety was a 
major issue.

The answers to your questions depend on how your systems will be set up, 
as this determines potential fire risks in your fluid storage. The main 
question and concern should be potential ignition sources. E.g. during 
the renovation works here, they intended to install a 380v power 
connection for a flow-type heater just behind my alcohol supply for the 
collection ...

So there are different items to consider, eg. air exchange rates, 
planned temperatures in the storage area, location of switches, power 
sockets .... etc.

All the best
Dirk



Am 22.10.2020 um 15:17 schrieb Lennart Lennuk:
>
> Dear all!
>
> I have urgent question about fire safety in fluid-preserved collections.
> We are planning new building for Estonian Museum of Natural History 
> and until last week it was not considering the potential danger of ca 
> 15 cubic meters of fluid-preserved specimens, speaking of 12 tonnes of 
> 70-75 % ethanol.
>
> I need some examples from the best of this world. We had meeting last 
> week with our fire-safety specialist but he seemed to have no 
> knowledge or skill to deal with such amount of ethanol.
>
> Most important questions are:
>
> a)In case of fire, how to exit? Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are 
> out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or 
> poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?
>
> b)Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion 
> hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat 
> from collection in case of fire?
>
> I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of 
> overpressure, would mitigate some risk.
>
> We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally 
> separate from rest of the building.
>
> An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable 
> liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the 
> whole room.
>
>
> So far I have checked NPS, ConserveOGram, Collection Forum, spnhc wiki 
> and STASHC but have not find any specific information about that:
>
> 1. Simmons, John E. /Fluid Preservation/.
>
> 2. ? Storage Concerns For Fluid-Preserved Collections. /Conserve O 
> Gram/ *11*, 1?4 (1999).
>
> 3. Marte, F. & Solazzo, C. The Stability of Natural History Specimens 
> In Fluid-preserved Collections. 10.
>
> 4. Neumann, D. & Carter, J. Baseline Standards for Fluid Collections. 47.
>
> 5. MacLeod, I. D. Conservation of a museum megamouth shark specimen by 
> changing its preservative from aqueous ethanol to aqueous glycerol. 
> /Collection Forum/ *29*, 73?89 (2015).
>
>
> Best regards!
>
> Lennart Lennuk
>
> Head of zoology
>
> Estonian Museum of Natural History
>
> +372 6603404, 56569916
>
>
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From gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il  Thu Oct 22 11:27:56 2020
From: gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il (Gali Beiner)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 18:27:56 +0300
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Shark preparation protocol
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Cartillage, not keratin.... Sorry about that! Otherwise the post still
applies!

?????? ??? ??, 22 ????? 2020, 15:31, ??? Gali Beiner ?<
gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il>:

> Hi all,
>
> We need to deal with preparation of several shark specimens - in this
> case, defleshing (maceration) to receive skeletal parts. Since shark
> skeletons are so special (keratin!), I'd like to ask for advice concerning
> recommended maceration procedures.
>
> I did find a publication entitled A complete protocol for the preparation
> of chondrichthyan skeletal specimens (Enault et al., 2016) - I'll be happy
> to receive comments and recommendations, since we need the skeletal
> material to enter the collections and be used for morphological study.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gali
>
> --
> Gali Beiner (ACR)
> Conservator, Palaeontology Lab
> National Natural History Collections
> The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
> Berman Building, Edmond J. Safra campus, Givat Ram
> Jerusalem 91904, Israel
> Fax. 972-2-6585785
> *gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il <gali.beiner at mail.huji.ac.il>*
>
> *https://nnhc.huji.ac.il/?lang=en <https://nnhc.huji.ac.il/?lang=en>*
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From kleacock at sciencebuff.org  Thu Oct 22 11:42:55 2020
From: kleacock at sciencebuff.org (Kathy Leacock)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 11:42:55 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Policy for Personal Property?
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List Members,



Apologies in advance if this question has been posed before, I can?t recall
it in recent history?



   - What does your institution do about personal property housed at the
   Museum? i.e. books, equipment, etc. (non-collection/not specimens).
   - Do you have an existing policy regarding personal property?
   - Is there a distinction between collections staff/collection spaces and
   other museum offices?



Our prior practice was to submit a personal property list, but this has
become a challenge as staff remove/bring in items without updating the
list.



Thank you in advance for any assistance you can offer in this regard,

Best,

Kathy







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KATHRYN H. LEACOCK

Director of Collections | Buffalo Museum of Science, Tifft Nature Preserve

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From christopher.tacker at naturalsciences.org  Thu Oct 22 12:10:46 2020
From: christopher.tacker at naturalsciences.org (Tacker, Christopher)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:10:46 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] [External]  earthen plaster or clay plaster
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Hi,  Lennart,

How hygroscopic are the plasters, and how do they fare when they get wet?

You might want to get your geology/ mineralogy curator to do some XRD to identify the components.

Regards,
Chris Tacker

R. Chris Tacker, Ph.D., P.G.
Curator of Geology
N.C. Museum of Natural Sciences
11 West Jones Street
Raleigh, NC 27601

________________________________
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Dear all



Do you have any experience about what materials use for collections rooms walls.

Is earthen plaster or clay plaster safe for collections?



Best regards!

Lennart Lennuk

Head of zoology

Estonian Museum of Natural History

+372 6603404, 56569916






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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Thu Oct 22 12:15:42 2020
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:15:42 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] [External]  earthen plaster or clay plaster
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Bear in mind that plaster in older storage buildings can contain asbestos. This is true of most pre-war structures in the USA that were termed "fireproof" in their original specifications. The plaster is usually a mixture of gypsum and up to 60% asbestos fiber. Depending on your local regulations, you might not even be allowed to hang a hook in the wall now.
Gypsum plaster is hygroscopic. If water leaks into it, there is often a characteristic "bloom" with blistering of the paint and disintegration of the plaster. This is not especially hazardous (unless see above), but it makes a mess.

Paul Callomon MSc
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates
________________________________
Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia
1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA
prc44 at drexel.edu<mailto:prc44 at drexel.edu> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170



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Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 12:11 PM
To: Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] [External] earthen plaster or clay plaster


External.
Hi,  Lennart,
How hygroscopic are the plasters, and how do they fare when they get wet?
You might want to get your geology/ mineralogy curator to do some XRD to identify the components.
Regards,
Chris Tacker
R. Chris Tacker, Ph.D., P.G.
Curator of Geology
N.C. Museum of Natural Sciences
11 West Jones Street
Raleigh, NC 27601

________________________________
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Dear all



Do you have any experience about what materials use for collections rooms walls.

Is earthen plaster or clay plaster safe for collections?



Best regards!

Lennart Lennuk

Head of zoology

Estonian Museum of Natural History

+372 6603404, 56569916






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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Thu Oct 22 12:51:08 2020
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:51:08 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] [External]  earthen plaster or clay plaster
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Just another word on plaster: in many older buildings the wall is built of masonry (brick or block) and is first covered on the inside with a thick "scratch layer" of sand and cement. This is "keyed" or "scratched" while it is wet (scored with the point of a trowel) and then, once it has cured, a much thinner "skim layer" of gypsum plaster is applied over it to create a smooth finish. Sometimes when moisture is present the gypsum, being hygroscopic, falls off the more inert scratch layer.


Paul Callomon MSc
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates
________________________________
Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University, Philadelphia
1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA
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From HawksC at si.edu  Thu Oct 22 14:15:00 2020
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 18:15:00 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and
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In case this did not go through on the first try

From: Kilby, Michael <KILBYMI at si.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 1:48 PM
To: Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu>
Cc: blstemen at gmail.com; 'nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu' <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: RE: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety

Cathy,
I?m happy to pass along what we?ve applied and learned from creating ethanol collection storage spaces at the Smithsonian over the years.  Here is some information that may be helpful:
The Smithsonian basically has two types of ethanol collection storage spaces:

  *   Small ethanol collection storage rooms (under 500 sq. ft)
     *   These are storage rooms located within a museum
     *   These rooms adhere to the requirements for flammable liquid storage rooms in NFPA 30 (Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code)
     *   2 hour fire rated enclosure, sprinkler suppression systems, ethanol gas detection, curbing and/or trench drains



  *   The Smithsonian has a separate collections storage facility, which includes a purpose built space housing natural history specimens in approximately 500,000 gallons of ethanol (70% concentration).
     *   The space is in a building dedicated for storage and research (no assembly)
     *   Size and unique purpose of the space required a performance rather than a prescriptive code approach
     *   Fire protection design parameters developed for this space are attached (Smithsonian Fire Protection & Life Safety Design Manual, see section 7.1.F)


Responses to specific questions (in red):

  1.  In case of fire, how to exit? Refer to your local fire/life safety codes.  Smithsonian follow the Life Safety Code (NFPA 101).  Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?  Strongly recommend automatic fire suppression for ethanol storage ? with sprinklers typically being the most practical and reliable.  If this is not possible, then divide storage into separate areas, with each area fully enclosed with fire rated construction.  Drainage and/or curbing will be needed in each room to prevent spread of fluid/fire to adjacent spaces.  Size of the space should be based on maximum acceptable loss of collections ? without automatic suppression you?ll need to assume complete loss of collections within a single fire rated storage room.
  2.  Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?  Smithsonian ethanol storage spaces are considered Class 1, Division 2 atmospheres per the National Electric Code (NFPA 70).  To reduce the risk of ignition, should there be a release of ethanol, explosion proof electrical fixtures and equipment are utilized.  Risk is further mitigated by strictly limiting personnel and operations in the space.  Space is dedicated to storage.  Processing, research and other activities are not permitted in the storage rooms.  Sprinkler systems are used to control a fire, and thus the heat generated.  Spaces are also kept cool, at approximately 65 degrees F, to reduce evaporation of ethanol.
I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.  See above answer to b.
We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.  We do the same.  Return air is close to the floor.  Gas detection is provided in the space.  Upon detection of ethanol vapor from a spill, ventilation goes to 100% exhaust.
An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.  For small quantities, the use of these cabinets may be practical.   Housing collections in cabinets creates other challenges in terms of readily viewing and accessing the collection.



Hope this is helpful.  Good luck with your project!



-Michael


Michael Kilby, P.E.
Associate Director for Fire Protection
Smithsonian Institution
Office of Safety, Health and Environmental Management
600 Maryland Ave. SW  Suite 7106
Washington, DC 20013-7012
Tele. 202.633.2628<tel:202.633.2628> (o)    202-438-6697 (c)
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From: Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu<mailto:HawksC at si.edu>>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:20 AM
To: blstemen at gmail.com<mailto:blstemen at gmail.com>; Kilby, Michael <KILBYMI at si.edu<mailto:KILBYMI at si.edu>>
Subject: FW: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety

Please see below and respond if you have time.
Cathy
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:17 AM
To: steven.vandermije at naturalis.nl<mailto:steven.vandermije at naturalis.nl>; Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com<mailto:couteaufin at btinternet.com>>; Fabian.Neisskenwirth at ruhrmuseum.de<mailto:Fabian.Neisskenwirth at ruhrmuseum.de>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety

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Dear all!

I have urgent question about fire safety in fluid-preserved collections.
We are planning new building for Estonian Museum of Natural History and until last week it was not considering the potential danger of ca 15 cubic meters of fluid-preserved specimens, speaking of 12 tonnes of 70-75 % ethanol.

I need some examples from the best of this world. We had meeting last week with our fire-safety specialist but he seemed to have no knowledge or skill to deal with such amount of ethanol.
Most important questions are:

  1.  In case of fire, how to exit? Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?
  2.  Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?
I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.
We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.
An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.


So far I have checked NPS, ConserveOGram, Collection Forum, spnhc wiki and STASHC but have not find any specific information about that:

1.         Simmons, John E. Fluid Preservation.

2.         ? Storage Concerns For Fluid-Preserved Collections. Conserve O Gram 11, 1?4 (1999).

3.         Marte, F. & Solazzo, C. The Stability of Natural History Specimens In Fluid-preserved Collections. 10.

4.         Neumann, D. & Carter, J. Baseline Standards for Fluid Collections. 47.

5.         MacLeod, I. D. Conservation of a museum megamouth shark specimen by changing its preservative from aqueous ethanol to aqueous glycerol. Collection Forum 29, 73?89 (2015).

Best regards!
Lennart Lennuk
Head of zoology
Estonian Museum of Natural History
+372 6603404, 56569916




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From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:06:26 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Fwd: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and
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Catharine Hawks
________________________________
From: BLStemen <blstemen at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 6:58 PM
To: Kilby, Michael
Cc: Hawks, Catharine; nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety

External Email - Exercise Caution
Cathy, et al.

Michael?s summary is spot on! Not certain there is significantly more to add.

Best Regards,

Bryan

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Kilby, Michael <KILBYMI at si.edu> wrote:

?
Cathy,
I?m happy to pass along what we?ve applied and learned from creating ethanol collection storage spaces at the Smithsonian over the years.  Here is some information that may be helpful:
The Smithsonian basically has two types of ethanol collection storage spaces:

  *   Small ethanol collection storage rooms (under 500 sq. ft)
     *   These are storage rooms located within a museum
     *   These rooms adhere to the requirements for flammable liquid storage rooms in NFPA 30 (Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code)
     *   2 hour fire rated enclosure, sprinkler suppression systems, ethanol gas detection, curbing and/or trench drains



  *   The Smithsonian has a separate collections storage facility, which includes a purpose built space housing natural history specimens in approximately 500,000 gallons of ethanol (70% concentration).
     *   The space is in a building dedicated for storage and research (no assembly)
     *   Size and unique purpose of the space required a performance rather than a prescriptive code approach
     *   Fire protection design parameters developed for this space are attached (Smithsonian Fire Protection & Life Safety Design Manual, see section 7.1.F)


Responses to specific questions (in red):

  1.  In case of fire, how to exit? Refer to your local fire/life safety codes.  Smithsonian follow the Life Safety Code (NFPA 101).  Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?  Strongly recommend automatic fire suppression for ethanol storage ? with sprinklers typically being the most practical and reliable.  If this is not possible, then divide storage into separate areas, with each area fully enclosed with fire rated construction.  Drainage and/or curbing will be needed in each room to prevent spread of fluid/fire to adjacent spaces.  Size of the space should be based on maximum acceptable loss of collections ? without automatic suppression you?ll need to assume complete loss of collections within a single fire rated storage room.
  2.  Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?  Smithsonian ethanol storage spaces are considered Class 1, Division 2 atmospheres per the National Electric Code (NFPA 70).  To reduce the risk of ignition, should there be a release of ethanol, explosion proof electrical fixtures and equipment are utilized.  Risk is further mitigated by strictly limiting personnel and operations in the space.  Space is dedicated to storage.  Processing, research and other activities are not permitted in the storage rooms.  Sprinkler systems are used to control a fire, and thus the heat generated.  Spaces are also kept cool, at approximately 65 degrees F, to reduce evaporation of ethanol.
I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.  See above answer to b.
We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.  We do the same.  Return air is close to the floor.  Gas detection is provided in the space.  Upon detection of ethanol vapor from a spill, ventilation goes to 100% exhaust.
An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.  For small quantities, the use of these cabinets may be practical.   Housing collections in cabinets creates other challenges in terms of readily viewing and accessing the collection.



Hope this is helpful.  Good luck with your project!



-Michael


Michael Kilby, P.E.
Associate Director for Fire Protection
Smithsonian Institution
Office of Safety, Health and Environmental Management
600 Maryland Ave. SW  Suite 7106
Washington, DC 20013-7012
Tele. 202.633.2628<tel:202.633.2628> (o)    202-438-6697 (c)
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From: Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:20 AM
To: blstemen at gmail.com; Kilby, Michael <KILBYMI at si.edu>
Subject: FW: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety

Please see below and respond if you have time.
Cathy
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:17 AM
To: steven.vandermije at naturalis.nl<mailto:steven.vandermije at naturalis.nl>; Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com<mailto:couteaufin at btinternet.com>>; Fabian.Neisskenwirth at ruhrmuseum.de<mailto:Fabian.Neisskenwirth at ruhrmuseum.de>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Cc: Sander Olo <Sander.Olo at loodusmuuseum.ee<mailto:Sander.Olo at loodusmuuseum.ee>>; peeter.mauer at ajaloomuuseum.ee<mailto:peeter.mauer at ajaloomuuseum.ee>; Ulla Villem <Ulla.Villem at loodusmuuseum.ee<mailto:Ulla.Villem at loodusmuuseum.ee>>; M?rt Kose <Mart.Kose at loodusmuuseum.ee<mailto:Mart.Kose at loodusmuuseum.ee>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety

External Email - Exercise Caution
Dear all!

I have urgent question about fire safety in fluid-preserved collections.
We are planning new building for Estonian Museum of Natural History and until last week it was not considering the potential danger of ca 15 cubic meters of fluid-preserved specimens, speaking of 12 tonnes of 70-75 % ethanol.

I need some examples from the best of this world. We had meeting last week with our fire-safety specialist but he seemed to have no knowledge or skill to deal with such amount of ethanol.
Most important questions are:

  1.  In case of fire, how to exit? Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?
  2.  Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?
I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.
We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.
An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.


So far I have checked NPS, ConserveOGram, Collection Forum, spnhc wiki and STASHC but have not find any specific information about that:

1.         Simmons, John E. Fluid Preservation.

2.         ? Storage Concerns For Fluid-Preserved Collections. Conserve O Gram 11, 1?4 (1999).

3.         Marte, F. & Solazzo, C. The Stability of Natural History Specimens In Fluid-preserved Collections. 10.

4.         Neumann, D. & Carter, J. Baseline Standards for Fluid Collections. 47.

5.         MacLeod, I. D. Conservation of a museum megamouth shark specimen by changing its preservative from aqueous ethanol to aqueous glycerol. Collection Forum 29, 73?89 (2015).

Best regards!
Lennart Lennuk
Head of zoology
Estonian Museum of Natural History
+372 6603404, 56569916




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From HawksC at si.edu  Fri Oct 23 04:06:56 2020
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 08:06:56 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and
 safety
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Hi Bryan

Many thanks!!

Cathy

Sent from my iPhone
Catharine Hawks
________________________________
From: Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu>
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2020 4:06:26 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Fwd: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety


Sent from my iPhone
Catharine Hawks
________________________________
From: BLStemen <blstemen at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 6:58 PM
To: Kilby, Michael
Cc: Hawks, Catharine; nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety


External Email - Exercise Caution

Cathy, et al.

Michael?s summary is spot on! Not certain there is significantly more to add.

Best Regards,

Bryan

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 22, 2020, at 1:48 PM, Kilby, Michael <KILBYMI at si.edu> wrote:

?

Cathy,

I?m happy to pass along what we?ve applied and learned from creating ethanol collection storage spaces at the Smithsonian over the years.  Here is some information that may be helpful:

The Smithsonian basically has two types of ethanol collection storage spaces:

  *   Small ethanol collection storage rooms (under 500 sq. ft)
     *   These are storage rooms located within a museum
     *   These rooms adhere to the requirements for flammable liquid storage rooms in NFPA 30 (Flammable and Combustible Liquids Code)
     *   2 hour fire rated enclosure, sprinkler suppression systems, ethanol gas detection, curbing and/or trench drains



  *   The Smithsonian has a separate collections storage facility, which includes a purpose built space housing natural history specimens in approximately 500,000 gallons of ethanol (70% concentration).
     *   The space is in a building dedicated for storage and research (no assembly)
     *   Size and unique purpose of the space required a performance rather than a prescriptive code approach
     *   Fire protection design parameters developed for this space are attached (Smithsonian Fire Protection & Life Safety Design Manual, see section 7.1.F)



Responses to specific questions (in red):

  1.  In case of fire, how to exit? Refer to your local fire/life safety codes.  Smithsonian follow the Life Safety Code (NFPA 101).  Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?  Strongly recommend automatic fire suppression for ethanol storage ? with sprinklers typically being the most practical and reliable.  If this is not possible, then divide storage into separate areas, with each area fully enclosed with fire rated construction.  Drainage and/or curbing will be needed in each room to prevent spread of fluid/fire to adjacent spaces.  Size of the space should be based on maximum acceptable loss of collections ? without automatic suppression you?ll need to assume complete loss of collections within a single fire rated storage room.
  2.  Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?  Smithsonian ethanol storage spaces are considered Class 1, Division 2 atmospheres per the National Electric Code (NFPA 70).  To reduce the risk of ignition, should there be a release of ethanol, explosion proof electrical fixtures and equipment are utilized.  Risk is further mitigated by strictly limiting personnel and operations in the space.  Space is dedicated to storage.  Processing, research and other activities are not permitted in the storage rooms.  Sprinkler systems are used to control a fire, and thus the heat generated.  Spaces are also kept cool, at approximately 65 degrees F, to reduce evaporation of ethanol.

I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.  See above answer to b.

We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.  We do the same.  Return air is close to the floor.  Gas detection is provided in the space.  Upon detection of ethanol vapor from a spill, ventilation goes to 100% exhaust.

An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.  For small quantities, the use of these cabinets may be practical.   Housing collections in cabinets creates other challenges in terms of readily viewing and accessing the collection.



Hope this is helpful.  Good luck with your project!



-Michael



Michael Kilby, P.E.
Associate Director for Fire Protection
Smithsonian Institution
Office of Safety, Health and Environmental Management
600 Maryland Ave. SW  Suite 7106
Washington, DC 20013-7012
Tele. 202.633.2628<tel:202.633.2628> (o)    202-438-6697 (c)
kilbymi at si.edu<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttp-3A__kilbymi-40si.edu%26d%3DDwMFAg%26c%3DezHeX61fxv1UK0GsNdSebQ%26r%3D3h8VSStueUcbu_pMeeGVHP947YSGt4cIIgE99CE6WJU%26m%3DQ0TA2kUylIprYUUVpYq3hHbi7hXMQvkA-0lUKnVYC6c%26s%3D8_8Mhw9aPkV0cOasVeCmidiB7YidYSozCv4L9XM8IGY%26e%3D&data=04%7C01%7CHawksC%40si.edu%7C1783a22d7e0a43e26dd908d876de019d%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637390043176126828%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=XpaEBveeziu00nw%2BY6RMEn%2F9ZiLLBQ3VWfZVtU7GfHg%3D&reserved=0>





From: Hawks, Catharine <HawksC at si.edu>
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:20 AM
To: blstemen at gmail.com; Kilby, Michael <KILBYMI at si.edu>
Subject: FW: fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety



Please see below and respond if you have time.

Cathy

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Thursday, October 22, 2020 9:17 AM
To: steven.vandermije at naturalis.nl<mailto:steven.vandermije at naturalis.nl>; Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com<mailto:couteaufin at btinternet.com>>; Fabian.Neisskenwirth at ruhrmuseum.de<mailto:Fabian.Neisskenwirth at ruhrmuseum.de>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Cc: Sander Olo <Sander.Olo at loodusmuuseum.ee<mailto:Sander.Olo at loodusmuuseum.ee>>; peeter.mauer at ajaloomuuseum.ee<mailto:peeter.mauer at ajaloomuuseum.ee>; Ulla Villem <Ulla.Villem at loodusmuuseum.ee<mailto:Ulla.Villem at loodusmuuseum.ee>>; M?rt Kose <Mart.Kose at loodusmuuseum.ee<mailto:Mart.Kose at loodusmuuseum.ee>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] fluid-preserved collections explosion hazard and safety



External Email - Exercise Caution

Dear all!

I have urgent question about fire safety in fluid-preserved collections.
We are planning new building for Estonian Museum of Natural History and until last week it was not considering the potential danger of ca 15 cubic meters of fluid-preserved specimens, speaking of 12 tonnes of 70-75 % ethanol.

I need some examples from the best of this world. We had meeting last week with our fire-safety specialist but he seemed to have no knowledge or skill to deal with such amount of ethanol.

Most important questions are:

  1.  In case of fire, how to exit? Sprinklers and gas extinguishing are out of question. But then, if I spill a jar full of something toxic or poisonous and some fire gets loose, what then?
  2.  Do you handle your fluid-preserved collectins as an explosion hazard? How do you mitigate the risks? How do you lead out the heat from collection in case of fire?

I think a pressure valve, which just flies away in case of overpressure, would mitigate some risk.

We already have planned the ventilation to near-floor, ideally separate from rest of the building.

An alternative is to put all fluid-preserved vessels to the flammable liquid safety cabinets but this may be more expensive than secure the whole room.



So far I have checked NPS, ConserveOGram, Collection Forum, spnhc wiki and STASHC but have not find any specific information about that:

1.         Simmons, John E. Fluid Preservation.

2.         ? Storage Concerns For Fluid-Preserved Collections. Conserve O Gram 11, 1?4 (1999).

3.         Marte, F. & Solazzo, C. The Stability of Natural History Specimens In Fluid-preserved Collections. 10.

4.         Neumann, D. & Carter, J. Baseline Standards for Fluid Collections. 47.

5.         MacLeod, I. D. Conservation of a museum megamouth shark specimen by changing its preservative from aqueous ethanol to aqueous glycerol. Collection Forum 29, 73?89 (2015).

Best regards!

Lennart Lennuk

Head of zoology

Estonian Museum of Natural History

+372 6603404, 56569916









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From sulliv55 at miamioh.edu  Fri Oct 23 10:57:34 2020
From: sulliv55 at miamioh.edu (Sullivan, Steven)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 10:57:34 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Tiger rug advice
Message-ID: <CABdPs6UsAaTY2qorGkPY4bLzzOcDC65KV49+rj3duzchGY7epA@mail.gmail.com>

A community member has approached us with a vintage tiger rug in very poor
condition.  I do not intend to accept it.  The damage is extensive enough
that it is not suitable for display.  For something in this condition, I
would normally recommend destruction.  However, given its age (earlier than
1940) and species, I wonder if anyone is aware of research that could use
such a specimen?  I am aware of, and have dealt with, the various
challenges in transferring ownership of tigers, but if there is a
productive use for the specimen, I would like to help facilitate that.

I can imagine biological conservation work that uses stable isotopes or
similar methods might benefit from hairs or other small portions.  Perhaps
historical analysis, too, since the specimen seems to have been acquired as
a middle-market retail decor item, not as a hunting trophy.  The head is
excelsior, open mouth components artificial, no paws, and skinning mistakes
were repaired with leopard skin as part of mounting.  I don't think it has
any value in re-mounting, though it might have limited value in repair of a
damaged specimen.  Thanks for any leads and, of course, if anything seems
promising, USFWS will be involved before transfer of anything is initiated.

--Steve

-- 

<http://miamioh.edu/>

Steven M. Sullivan

Director | Hefner Museum of Natural History
<http://miamioh.edu/cas/academics/centers/hefner-museum/>

Miami University

100 Upham Hall

100 Bishop Circle

Oxford, OH 45056

Museum: 513-529-4617

Cell: 708-937-6253


The Museum is open to the public weekdays 9-4, free admission

*Connecting you to the nature in your neighborhood...and the world.*


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other indigenous groups, were the first stewards of this land's
biodiversity. http://miamioh.edu/diversity-inclusion/land/index.html
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From Diana.Soteropoulos at arkansas.gov  Fri Oct 23 15:51:55 2020
From: Diana.Soteropoulos at arkansas.gov (Diana Soteropoulos)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 19:51:55 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] DEADLINE EXTENDED to submit SPNHC abstract about
 digitized specimen data
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The deadline to submit abstracts for the Society of Preservation for Natural History Collections (SPNHC) conference in Jacksonville, FL on May 11-15, 2021 has been extended to Wed., November 11. If you were interested in submitting an abstract for our symposium, "Digitized specimen data use by non-academic and non-museum agencies," it's not too late!
Here's the description of our symposium:
The utility of digitized natural history specimen data extends beyond universities and public or private museums to non-academic and non-museum agencies such as state and national parks, state conservation agencies, and natural heritage programs. This symposium will cover aspects of how these agencies use digitized collections data, including finding historical distributions of (rare) species at a county-level; searching for specimens from a specified area, such as a National Park or state boundary; describing new species; and identifying areas for conservation, preservation, or restoration. While digitized data are searchable online, many agencies also build connections with academic and museum collections to access the specimens for study, deposit new specimen collections, or collaborate. Audience members should find this symposium engaging no matter the type of institution of employment, as we intend for an exchange of ideas among universities and museums with these non-museum agencies. The location of the SPNHC 2021 meeting is well-suited for many prospective presenters from state heritage programs, the U.S. National Park Service, the U.S. Forest Service, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, and the academic and museum collections which work with these groups.
If you'd like to submit an abstract, please email diana.soteropoulos at arkansas.gov<mailto:diana.soteropoulos at arkansas.gov> the following information:
Name and affiliation for each author
Email address for main presenter
An abstract of up to 500 words
A bio of up to 300 words for main presenter
Let us know if you have any questions about this symposium, and we hope to see you at SPNHC 2021!
Sincerely,

DIANA SOTEROPOULOS
Botanist / Arkansas Herbarium Digitization Coordinator

Arkansas Natural Heritage Commission
1100 North Street
Little Rock, AR 72201
diana.soteropoulos at arkansas.gov<mailto:diana.soteropoulos at arkansas.gov>
p: 501.324.9763 | f: 501.324.9618

NaturalHeritage.com<http://www.naturalheritage.com/>

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Herrick Brown - Curator
Andrew Charles Moore Herbarium (USCH)

Coker Life Science room 208
Department of Biological Sciences
University of South Carolina
Columbia, SC 29208
803-777-8175<tel:803-777-8175>
HBrown at mailbox.sc.edu<mailto:HBrown at mailbox.sc.edu>
www.herbarium.org<http://www.herbarium.org/>

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From: algain2 at icloud.com (Ali Algain)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:26:44 +0300
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] papers of herpetologist John Gasperetti
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Hello Ms. Kim, 

My name is Ali Abduldhaher Algain. My father was a friend of Mr. Gasperetti during his time in Saudi Arabia.

I?m more than interested in keeping his works safe and conveniently stored. I?m an alumnus of Yale University?s summer program and might manage to get the works stored there as well. 
If the works haven?t been taken already, I?d be glad to take them myself from Cairo as I?m visiting in January, 2021. 

Thank you so much. 
Sincerely, 
Ali.

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AIBS Public Policy Report


AIBS Public Policy Report, Volume 21, Issue 22, October 26, 2020

  *   Election Day Approaching: Remember to Vote
  *   Relief Negotiations Remain Unfruitful
  *   Report Urges Increased Investments in U.S. R&D
  *   Work Begins on National Climate Report after Concerns over Delay
  *   Trump Establishes Trillion Trees Interagency Council
  *   NSF Soliciting Future Topics for Convergence Accelerator
  *   Webinar Series: Resources for Natural History Collections in a New Virtual World
  *   Deadline Extended: NSF?s Request for Information on STEM Education
  *   Short Takes
     *   Legislation Introduced to Block Diversity Training Executive Order
     *   New Chair Appointed to EPA?s Science Advisory Board
     *   Experts Sought for Panel on Quantum-Enabled Sensing, Imaging for Biology
     *   Nominations Sought for Synthetic Biology Roundtable
     *   NASEM Webinar on Ecosystem Restoration in the Gulf
  *   From the Federal Register

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With proper attribution to AIBS, all material from these reports may be reproduced or forwarded. AIBS staff appreciates receiving copies of materials used. If you have questions, comments, or suggestions, please contact the AIBS Public Policy Manager, Jyotsna Pandey, at 202-628-1500 x 225.

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Election Day Approaching: Remember to Vote

Participate in U.S. democracy by voting on Tuesday, November 3rd.

In addition to the presidential race, all members of the House of Representatives and one-third of Senators are up for re-election.  There are also many state and local races on the ballot.

The next Congress and President must address many significant environmental and public health challenges, including impacts of the coronavirus pandemic and climate change.

Contact your state board of elections to find your polling location or to learn about early voting opportunities.

Relief Negotiations Remain Unfruitful

Negotiations continue between the White House and congressional leaders over the next emergency relief package in response to the COVID-19 pandemic, with disagreements persisting over the price tag of the measure.

Earlier in October, the House passed a $2.2 trillion package<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=ba744c0a65&e=6708ed45cf> ? a pared-down version of the $3.4 trillion Heroes Act<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=a1115408a5&e=6708ed45cf> that the chamber passed in May.  The revised proposal includes nearly $3 billion in emergency funding for the National Science Foundation as well as $11.9 billion for higher education institutions.  House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has expressed unwillingness to go below $2.2 trillion.  The White House was initially willing to go up to $1.6 trillion, but later proposed a slightly larger $1.8 trillion relief measure with additional funding for state and local governments and direct stimulus checks.  There is some Republican support for the White House proposal, but many GOP Senators criticized the spending as too high.

Last week, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) forced a vote on a $500 billion relief measure, which included $100 billion for school safety, an extension of expanded employment benefits, funds for testing and tracing, and funding for vaccine development and distribution.  The bill also included liability protections for businesses ? a provision that Democrats called a ?poison pill.?  Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) said the bill was ?not a serious attempt at pandemic relief? and just ?another attempt at giving Republicans political cover before the election.?  The bill failed to pass in the Senate.  McConnell conceded this was a messaging exercise. ?We wanted to make the point to the American people that Senate Republicans believe another package is important,? he stated.

It appears unlikely that a stimulus deal will be reached before the elections.  According to E&E News, Senator McConnell has been discouraging the White House from finalizing an agreement with the Democrats prior to Election Day.

Report Urges Increased Investments in U.S. R&D

A new report from the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, The Perils of Complacency: America at a Tipping Point in Science & Engineering, urges significant action and research funding to ensure that the United States does not lose its leadership position in innovation.

The report offers a five-year update to the Academy?s 2014 report<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=60793d60a2&e=6708ed45cf>, Restoring the Foundation: The Vital Role of Research in Preserving the American Dream, which called for annual U.S. investments in research and development (R&D) to equal 3.3 percent of gross domestic product (GDP).

?China is projected to become the world?s largest economy when measured by GDP by 2030. By 2026, the 250th anniversary of the United States, China?s strategic plan calls for it to be well on its way to becoming the unchallenged world leader in science, technology, and innovation,? reads the new report<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=bddc1f9848&e=6708ed45cf>. ?These developments are perilous for America, which today, 50 years after the Apollo 11 moon landing, is at a tipping point in R&D,? the report warns.

The report notes that the United States gained global leadership by prioritizing innovation and cautions that falling behind in science and technology R&D funding, even for a few years, can have ?grave consequences for a country?s economy, job creation, standard of living, and national security.?

The latest report reaffirms the recommendations offered in the 2014 report, including increasing federal funding for basic research at a sustained growth rate of at least 4 percent per year and appropriating U.S. R&D budgets on at least a two-year cycle, rather than annually.  In addition, the report offers new recommendations focused on strengthening U.S. STEM education and the American workforce.

?The nation?s pre-K?12 public education system has been in crisis for decades,? notes the report.  The authors call for implementing the recommendations laid out in the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine?s 2005 report, Gathering Storm, which included creating 10,000 federally funded four-year scholarships annually in STEM fields to be competitively awarded to U.S. citizens in exchange for a commitment to teach STEM in a public school for at least five years after graduating.  The authors also recommend that states ?return to, and then sustain or increase, pre-Great Recession levels of public university funding, as measured per full-time equivalent (FTE) student.?  Furthermore, the report calls for repealing the tax placed on earnings of endowments of private universities.

The report was prepared by Rice University?s Baker Institute for Public Policy and a committee comprising notable players in the U.S. innovation ecosystem, including Norman Augustine, former chairman and CEO of Lockheed Martin; Neal Lane, former director of the National Science Foundation and the Office of Science and Technology Policy; Steven Chu, former Secretary of Energy; and Bart Gordon, former chair of the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee.

Work Begins on National Climate Report after Concerns over Delay

After public outcry over a months-long delay, the Trump Administration has moved ahead with the fifth National Climate Assessment (NCA5) by soliciting nominations for authors and technical input.

The National Climate Assessment report is congressionally mandated to be prepared every four years by scientists from 13 federal agencies. The fourth installment, which was published in 2018, was written by more than 300 authors, including Federal and State government scientists as well as scientists from the private sector.  President Trump rejected the findings of the last assessment, which concluded that ?Earth?s climate is now changing faster than at any point in the history of modern civilization, primarily as a result of human activities.?

E&E News reported earlier this month that the Trump Administration was holding up progress on the next report.  Donald Wuebbles, a climate scientist at the University of Illinois and co-lead author on the first volume of the fourth National Climate Assessment, raised concerns that the Administration was late in issuing a call for authors for the report ? a key step in the developing the assessment.  ?It's not being approved to go out, so therefore they're just sitting on it. And I don't know if it's [the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration] or the White House, but somebody's sitting on it, so that's just holding up getting up the NCA 5 going,? said Wuebbles.

2020 U.S. Democratic Presidential Nominee Joe Biden also criticized the delay. ?Climate change is already here, and ignoring science won't make it go away,? stated Biden.  ?If we give the Trump Administration another four years, we'll lose irreplaceable time to combat it.?

Following reports of concerns over the delay, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) issued a Federal Register notice on October 15 on behalf of the U.S. Global Change Research Program seeking nominations for lead authors and researchers for the assessment.  The report is now expected to be published in 2023, a year later than previously planned.

Author nominations and scientific/technical inputs for NCA5 must be submitted electronically by November 14, 2020 at https://www.globalchange.gov/notices<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=c95e4dd863&e=6708ed45cf>.  More information about this solicitation can be found at: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2020-10-15/html/2020-22729.htm<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=447e3382e7&e=6708ed45cf>

Trump Establishes Trillion Trees Interagency Council

On October 16, 2020, President Trump signed an Executive Order establishing the One Trillion Trees Interagency Council and increasing U.S. involvement in the global Trillion Trees Initiative in an attempt to boost his environmental credentials ahead of the election.

The goal of the Trillion Trees Initiative, launched earlier this year at the World Economic Forum, is to plant, grow, conserve, and restore one trillion trees around the world by 2030 to sequester carbon.

According to the White House, the Order<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=142aee196f&e=6708ed45cf> ?promotes healthy and resilient forests and rangelands by actively managing them through partnerships with States, tribes, communities, non-profit organizations, and the private sector.?  The directive establishes the United States One Trillion Trees Interagency Council ? composed of representatives from 14 federal agencies ? which will be responsible for coordinating the US government?s interactions with the global initiative.

The panel will be co-chaired by Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue and Interior Secretary David Bernhardt, and will include Economic Adviser Larry Kudlow, Council on Environmental Quality Chair Mary Neumayr, Environmental Protection Agency Administrator Andrew Wheeler, and Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought.  White House Senior Adviser Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump will also serve on the council.

NSF Soliciting Future Topics for Convergence Accelerator

The National Science Foundation (NSF) has announced a Request for Information (RFI) on Future Topics for the NSF Convergence Accelerator.  With this RFI, NSF is seeking input from industry, institutions of higher education (IHEs), non-profits, government entities, and other interested parties on potential NSF Convergence Accelerator tracks for fiscal year (FY) 2022.

Proposed topics must have the potential for significant national-scale societal impact. Topic ideas may also relate to Industries of the Future (IotF) and/or NSF's Big Ideas. Ideas submitted in response to this RFI must be broad in scope to support and identify a set of challenges to complex problems that would be best addressed by multiple teams working together as a cohort.

The responses to this RFI must be submitted by November 9, 2020. More information can be found at: https://www.nsf.gov/pubs/2021/nsf21012/nsf21012.jsp<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=41dc760f49&e=6708ed45cf>

The NSF Convergence Accelerator is holding an ideation webinar on October 27, 2020 from 2:00?3:30 PM ET to bring awareness of this opportunity to accelerate NSF-funded research and discovery to further societal impact.  Join the webinar to learn about the program?s ideation process, specifically focusing on the RFI on future topics. Attendees will learn about the Convergence Accelerator?s model and fundamentals, designed to leverage a convergence approach to transition basic research and discovery into practice. To register, visit https://bit.ly/NSFCA_Oct27_RFIWebinar<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=a33a28a4da&e=6708ed45cf>

Webinar Series: Resources for Natural History Collections in a New Virtual World

Recognizing the rapid changes happening within museum communities and the efforts being made throughout the community to adapt to these changes, iDigBio is organizing a webinar series, entitled Adapting to COVID-19: Resources for Natural History Collections in a New Virtual World.  The webinar series aims to help provide insight into how different groups and institutions are adapting to life in a quickly evolving world.  AIBS, the Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections (SPNHC), and the Natural Science Collections Alliance contributed to the planning of these programs.

The next two webinars will be held on October 27 and November 18 from 2:00?3:30 PM ET. All webinars will be recorded and held in Zoom.

October 27: Virtual Project Management, Tips and Tools
This webinar will focus on the basics of project management followed by lessons learned from the iDigBio community through managing multi-institution digitization projects (e.g. ADBC Thematic Collections Networks). Topics to include: organization, project tracking, communication strategies, and compiling and preparing reports. There will also be time for Q&A at the end of the webinar.

Speakers:

  *   Diego Barroso; Project Manager TORCH TCN, BRIT
  *   Jen Zaspel; Terrestrial Parasite Tracker Lead PI
  *   David Jennings, Project Manager, iDigBio
Zoom link: https://ufl.zoom.us/j/99571640979?pwd=V0VwbDBySEtBYUptNUZ2L0RQNGh0UT09<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=f40ee4aa6f&e=6708ed45cf>

November 18: Engaging Public Participation in Collections Digitization
Learn about opportunities to use the Zooniverse platform for collections digitization, including examples of Notes from Nature related to transcription and phenology scoring projects. There will be a demo of available project management tools for NfN, followed by a higher-level explanation of the technology behind the platform that makes it all possible.

Speakers:

  *   Austin Mast; iDigBio, Florida State University
  *   Katie Pearson, Project Manager California Phenology TCN
Zoom link: https://ufl.zoom.us/j/99571640979?pwd=V0VwbDBySEtBYUptNUZ2L0RQNGh0UT09<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=7614de2096&e=6708ed45cf>

Visit the webinar series page for more information: https://www.idigbio.org/content/webinar-series-adapting-covid-resources-natural-history-collections-new-virtual-world<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=6d83059420&e=6708ed45cf>

Deadline Extended: NSF?s Request for Information on STEM Education

In coordination with the National Science and Technology Council?s (NSTC?s) Committee on STEM Education (CoSTEM) and the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy (OSTP), the National Science Foundation (NSF) is soliciting input on the implementation of the Federal STEM Education Strategic Plan, Charting a Course for Success: America?s Strategy for STEM Education.

This Request for Information (RFI) addresses changes in education systems that have been impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. Information collected from this solicitation may be used to guide future Federal STEM education resource development.

The questions included in this RFI focus on the following elements of the Federal STEM Education Strategic Plan:

  *   Future opportunities in STEM education;
  *   Develop STEM education digital resources;
  *   Increase diversity, equity, and inclusion in STEM;
  *   Engage students where disciplines converge;
  *   Develop and enrich strategic partnerships;
  *   Build computational literacy; and
  *   Community use and implementation of the Federal STEM Education Strategic Plan.

The deadline to submit comments has been extended to November 20, 2020. Comments can be submitted via email to CoSTEM at nsf.gov<mailto:CoSTEM at nsf.gov>.  Further details about this RFI can be found at https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-2020-10-22/html/2020-23443.htm<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=f900a71374&e=6708ed45cf>

Short Takes

  *   Democratic lawmakers in the House have introduced a bill (H.R. 8595<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=5a924dc09d&e=6708ed45cf>) that would nullify President Trump?s Executive Order<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=f6be8dfad0&e=6708ed45cf> on Combating Race and Sex Stereotyping that directs federal agencies, the uniformed services, and government contractors to end ?divisive? racial sensitivity trainings.  The order also prohibits federal grant funds to be used to promote ?race or sex stereotyping or scapegoating.?  The legislation, introduced by Representative Joyce Beatty (D-OH), currently has 24 co-sponsors.  ?Diverse organizations are more profitable, pose less regulatory risk and strengthen our economy,? Beatty said.  ?That is why I strongly oppose Trump's divisive attempt to cement racism as the practice and policy of the Federal government and call on all Americans to join me in this effort because this executive order is antithetical to the values we hold so dear as a nation.?
  *   Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) Administrator Andrew Wheeler announced on October 14 that Dr. John Graham, who previously led the White House Office of Information and Regulatory Affairs under President George W. Bush, will serve as the next Chairman of the agency's Science Advisory Board (SAB). Dr. Graham, a professor of public and environmental affairs at Indiana University, was first appointed to the board in 2017 by former EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt.  The SAB is charged with providing independent advice and peer review to the EPA Administrator on scientific and technical aspects of environmental issues.
  *   The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine?s Board on Life Sciences is seeking nominations of experts for a workshop on Quantum Science Concepts in Enhancing Sensing and Imaging Technologies: Applications for Biology.  This workshop will facilitate a better understanding of current and future applications of quantum-enabled sensing and imaging technologies on different fields of biology.  Six committee members from academia, government, industry, and other sectors, with expertise in biological imaging or sensing, quantum biology, biological physics, cell and molecular biology, microbiology and other relevant life, physical, and engineering fields, are sought.  The workshop committee will plan talks, panels, and discussions with the goal of bringing together experts working on state-of-the-art quantum-enabled technologies.  Nominations can be submitted<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=d4cca48786&e=6708ed45cf> until October 30, 2020.
  *   The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine is soliciting experts to serve on a Synthetic Biology Roundtable for exploring synthetic biology and the associated science, policy, and industry capabilities. The objective of the Roundtable is to improve coordination among the U.S. Army's research and development stakeholders and to increase awareness in the broader open science community of current and future capabilities.  Nominations are sought for 8?10 committee members within government, military, industry, and academia with expertise in synthetic biology science and technology, laboratory infrastructure management, policy development and administration, battlefield medicine, human performance, and biosphere ethics and regulation. Nominations will be accepted until November 2, 2020 at https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/5941980/U-S-Army-Synthetic-Biology-Roundtable<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=c3e750f8fc&e=6708ed45cf>.
  *   The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine?s (NASEM) Gulf Research Program is holding a webinar, Planning and Decision-Making Frameworks for Ecosystem Restoration, on October 29, 2020 from 12:00?1:00 PM ET.  The webinar will focus on the decision-making frameworks and implementation of ecosystem restoration and economic recovery.  Register at: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/planning-and-decision-making-frameworks-for-ecosystem-restoration-tickets-123509202349<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=401d131329&e=6708ed45cf>

From the Federal Register

The following items appeared in the Federal Register from October 12 to 23, 2020. For more information on these or other recent items, please visit the AIBS Federal Register Resource at www.aibs.org/federal-register-resource/index.html<https://aibs.us1.list-manage.com/track/click?u=a2886d199362c2554974f78af&id=df40159175&e=6708ed45cf>.

Week Ending October 23, 2020

Commerce

  *   Aquaculture Opportunity Areas

Environmental Protection Agency

  *   Public Meeting of the Great Lakes Advisory Board

Health and Human Services

  *   Meeting of the Presidential Advisory Council on HIV/AIDS
  *   National Toxicology Program Board of Scientific Counselors; Announcement of Meeting; Request for Comments
  *   Request for Information and Comments on Fostering Research Integrity and the Responsible Conduct of Research

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

  *   Information Collection: NASA STEM Better Together: For Stakeholder Success

National Science Foundation

  *   Agency Information Collection Activities: Comment Request; Awardee Reporting Requirements for the Established Program to Stimulate Competitive Research (EPSCoR) Research Infrastructure Improvement Programs
  *   Request for Information; Extension of Public Comment Period

Week Ending October 16, 2020

Commerce

  *   Request for Comment; Implementation Plan for the National Strategy for Ocean Mapping, Exploring, and Characterizing the United States Exclusive Economic Zone

Environmental Protection Agency

  *   Board of Scientific Counselors (BOSC) Safe and Sustainable Water Resources Subcommittee Meeting?October 2020; Correction
  *   Pesticide Program Dialogue Committee; Notice of Public Meeting

Executive Office of the President

  *   Executive Order?Establishing the One Trillion Trees Interagency Council

Health and Human Services

  *   Office of the Director, National Institutes of Health Notice of Meeting

Institute of Museum and Library Services

  *   Notice of Proposed Information Collection Request: Evaluation of the Reopening Archives, Libraries, and Museums (REALM) Project

Interior

  *   FY 2020 National Call for Nominations for Resource Advisory Councils

National Aeronautics and Space Administration

  *   Request for Public Nominations for Authors and Scientific/Technical Inputs and Notice of Planned Public Engagement Opportunities for the Fifth National Climate Assessment

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From asilid at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 17:51:51 2020
From: asilid at gmail.com (Derek Woller)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 14:51:51 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Entomo-L Listserv Lives Again!
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From PALMERL at si.edu  Tue Oct 27 15:59:50 2020
From: PALMERL at si.edu (Palmer, Lisa)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 19:59:50 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: HENTF Action requested: Reach out to your members
 re: Zeta
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fyi

From: Foley, Lori <lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov>
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:27 PM
Subject: HENTF Action requested: Reach out to your members re: Zeta

External Email - Exercise Caution
Dear HENTF members,

Hurricane conditions are expected by late Wednesday within portions of the Hurricane Warning area between Morgan City, Louisiana, and the Mississippi/Alabama border. Damaging winds, especially in gusts, will spread well inland across portions of southeast Mississippi and southern Alabama Wednesday night due to Zeta's fast forward speed.

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By now I hope you know the drill: Please reach out to your constituents and members and convey the following information, along with the urgency of completing preparedness plans:


  *   Check the HENTF dashboard<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffema.connectsolutions.com%2Fhentf%2F&data=04%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cc2985bfbd85b409aaf4108d87aae5514%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637394236461164735%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=56dqLFoJTECqJ0S6MOdkFETMJ5xna6vAg8WglKP2YT8%3D&reserved=0>, which contains links to preparedness tips as well as other important resources.
  *   Track the storm via the National Hurricane Center, http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nhc.noaa.gov%2F&data=04%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cc2985bfbd85b409aaf4108d87aae5514%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637394236461174695%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=4EGuVMNFD1Dbe%2B3Oh3gQPQ%2BEgfvFyf%2FcVDdQrkMubIo%3D&reserved=0>.
  *   Monitor information via your state's Emergency Management Agency; the link can be found at https://www.dhs.gov/state-homeland-security-and-emergency-services<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.dhs.gov%2Fstate-homeland-security-and-emergency-services&data=04%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cc2985bfbd85b409aaf4108d87aae5514%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637394236461174695%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=B%2Ffg%2BFsJN3mzyiyAuI%2FHmpTiIL1xpXPX9tldG6%2BMDGg%3D&reserved=0>.
  *   Keep this 24/7 hotline number handy: 202.661.8068. The National Heritage Responders, a team of trained conservators and collections care professionals, are available 24/7 to provide advice.
  *   Download FEMA fact sheets "After the Flood: Advice for Salvaging Damaged Family Treasures" and "Salvaging Water-Damaged Family Valuables and Heirlooms," available at https://www.fema.gov/media-collection/heritage-emergency-national-task-force<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.fema.gov%2Fmedia-collection%2Fheritage-emergency-national-task-force&data=04%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cc2985bfbd85b409aaf4108d87aae5514%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637394236461184648%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=v%2FVMLgKhlpvyWxWzMmqRqGFcwcROblgj5kFg1apwc7Q%3D&reserved=0>.

With thanks for your continuing engagement,
Lori

Lori Foley
Coordinator | Heritage Emergency National Task Force
Office of Environmental Planning & Historic Preservation
Federal Insurance and Mitigation Administration
Mobile: (202) 826-6303
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From PITASSYD at si.edu  Tue Oct 27 16:20:04 2020
From: PITASSYD at si.edu (Pitassy, Diane)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:20:04 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Smithsonian (NMNH),
 Division of Fishes seeks larval fish contract specialist
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National Museum of Natural History
Division of Fishes
Smithsonian Institution
Assessment Services for Division of Fishes Larval Fish Collection




The National Museum of Natural History Department of Vertebrate Zoology, Division of Fishes is seeking a contractor to assess the research quality of 20,000 larval lots in the National Fish Collection.



The National Fish Collection currently has a large collection of uninventoried material from historic expeditions and the Smithsonian Oceanographic Sorting Center that are tentatively identified as fish larvae. A significant portion of this collection has never been assessed for physical condition, data completeness, or life stage status. Before the material can be recommended for digitization and curation, we need to determine whether lots meet key benchmarks for permanent inclusion in our collection.  To complete these evaluations, the Division of Fishes is seeking a contractor to perform the following tasks (see statement of work for details):



*       Determine if lot contains larval fishes or more advanced life stages

*       Determine if current physical condition of specimens in lot qualifies as research quality

*       Determine if lot meets minimal identification levels

*       Determine if lot meets minimal locality data requirements

*       Bin materials that meet or fail benchmark criteria to into separate designated holding areas

Desirable skills:

*       Experience preserving, sorting and identifying larval fish

*       Experience with zoological museum collections

*       Experience handling fluid specimens

*       Familiarity with biological nomenclature or taxonomy

*       Ability to use Excel

*       Strong organizational and communication skills

The contractor will be responsible for providing the labor to complete all these tasks. The Smithsonian will provide access to Smithsonian-owned computers and microscopes. Should telework be required it is expected that the contractor will provide his/her own computer running the MS-Windows operating system and Microsoft Excel, must meet OCIO computer security standards if connecting remotely to NMNH network and will have an external or cloud storage to backup work . Orientation of contractor to lab space and collection areas will be provided by the Division of Fishes collection management staff. All curation and examination supplies, including forceps, trays, ethanol, and carts will be provided by the Smithsonian.

Project work to be completed at the Museum Support Center (MSC), Suitland, MD  or, as is feasible, the Natural History Building (NHB), Washington, DC during standard Division of Fishes business hours (Monday - Friday, excluding federal holidays or emergency closures, between the hours of 8:30 AM and 6:00 PM). Telework and alternate work schedules will be considered on a case by case basis. The contractor will not receive paid holidays, vacations, sick days, travel time or other SI leave benefits.


Proposals will be accepted until 5:00 PM EDT, Monday, Nov 10, 2020. Proposals will be reviewed on the basis of best value for the money. Send proposals to Diane Pitassy via e-mail at pitassyd at si.edu<mailto:pitassyd at si.edu>.  Follow the format set forth in section 4 of the RFQ (below) "Information to be submitted with quotes."

There are no benefits, tax or social security withholding associated with this contract.

The contractor must pass a background investigation before work can begin.


Diane Pitassy
Museum Specialist
Division of Fishes
Museum Support Center
4210 Silver Hill Rd
Suitland MD 20746
w 301.238.1732 |  pitassyd at si.edu<mailto:pitassyd at si.edu>

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From rinconrodriguezl at ufl.edu  Tue Oct 27 16:44:47 2020
From: rinconrodriguezl at ufl.edu (Rincon Rodriguez,Laura)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 20:44:47 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Collections Lit Club- Link of our meetup
Message-ID: <MWHPR2201MB10230B0F52D1ABB6E27EF89DCB160@MWHPR2201MB1023.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Hello everybody!

On September 29th, 2020, We had an engaging conversation between natural history and history museums about the article "Clean house to survive? Museums confront their crowded basements " by Robin Pogrebin in 2019. Hosted by Laura Rinc?n and Dieuwertje Wijsmuller.

We started our meetup with an ice breaker activity: If you were an object/specimen what would you like to be?
If I were a specimen, I would like to be a cleared and stained fish...those are gorgeous! and you?

Check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzr02rarFDk&t=1s

You are welcome to leave your comments, advice or thoughts in my Collections lit club<https://community.wearemuseums.com/>.

Thanks!
Laura Rinc?n
UF Museum Studies grad student
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From bthiers at nybg.org  Wed Oct 28 10:53:15 2020
From: bthiers at nybg.org (Thiers, Barbara)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 14:53:15 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Lead Digitizer -- William and Lynda Steere Herbarium
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If you are interested in applying for a position at the New York Botanical Garden, please go to http://www.nybg.org/employment to submit your application.

Lead Digitizer -- William and Lynda Steere Herbarium

The Lead Digitizer will facilitate the digitization of bryophyte and lichen herbarium specimens in the William and Lynda Steere Herbarium at The New York Botanical Garden (NYBG) as part of a multi-institutional NSF-funded project: Digitization TCN: Collaborative Research: Building a Global Consortium of Bryophytes and Lichens: Keystones of Cryptobiotic Communities.

Additionally, this position supports, through actions and conduct, NYBG?s Inclusion, Diversity, Equity and Accessibility initiatives and helps to build and maintain an inclusive organization culture throughout the institution. The New York Botanical Garden is committed to a diverse, equitable, and inclusive work environment, and further recognizes that diversity in our workforce fosters excellence in our mission of advocating for the plants of the world. Leveraging the strong foundation of existing policies and practices, NYBG will advance diversity, equity, and inclusion through a number of institutional initiatives presented through this plan. Our aspiration is to continue to cultivate a workforce and institution that is as diverse as the communities we serve and the audiences we engage.

Specific Duties & Responsibilities:

  *   Lead the effort to barcode, image, and transcribe collection data for 200,000 NYBG bryophyte and 50,000 lichen herbarium specimens collected worldwide.
  *   Supervise and assist in training interns and volunteers who barcode, image, and/or transcribe specimen data at NYBG for this project.
  *   Georeference NYBG bryophyte and lichen specimens.Requirements:
  *   Bachelor of Science degree required.
  *   Experience with herbarium specimen data capture and imaging procedures required, experience with packeted specimens a plus.
  *   Experience with specimen databases and digital photography is required.
  *   Familiarity with rules of botanical nomenclature.
  *   Familiarity with herbarium procedures.
  *   Must be able to work closely with others as part of a team (and be able to communicate effectively while working remotely)
  *   Familiarity with world geography.
  *   Understanding of written Spanish, Portuguese or other languages in addition to English, a plus.

POSIT I O N   A N N O U N C E M E N T#SC-1825I
If you require an accommodation for any part of the application process, please notify the Human Resources department at HR at nybg.org.

If you are interested in applying for a position at the New York Botanical Garden, please go to http://www.nybg.org/employment to submit your application.
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EOE/M/F/Disabled/VeteranDate of Posting:October 21, 202

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From WYNNA at si.edu  Wed Oct 28 15:11:38 2020
From: WYNNA at si.edu (Wynn, Addison)
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2020 19:11:38 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Allozyme homogenates at your institution
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Dear colleagues,

We have had very promising results using a target-capture based approach to sequence DNA from the frozen tissue pellets and supernatants of samples originally prepared for studies of allozyme variation many decades ago. This investigation was inspired by the large quantity of such materials that are part of Richard Highton's important collection of plethodontid salamanders, now housed at the USNM. We intend to publish a short methods note alerting the community to utility of this material that our institutions have been safeguarding for decades. In this same publication, we would also like to alert readers to the availability of equivalent material in other institutions given that it may not be easy to find this information using standard collections searches. For this we need your help! We envision a summary table listing the institution, collection, approximate quantity of homogenates available, and brief notes  (e.g., USNM; Amphibians + Reptiles; 30,000; primarily North American salamanders). We can also include a mention of collections that do not have such material to (hopefully) reduce the number of unnecessary inquiries you may receive. Thank you for your consideration in taking part in this survey (message and form<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fforms%2Fd%2Fe%2F1FAIpQLSfxwyN9w8ntRkZ9rpHozvt7AVrfYmCBtSjk6t4B9L5q37RiEg%2Fviewform%3Fusp%3Dsf_link&data=04%7C01%7CWYNNA%40si.edu%7Ce6ad1213b0cd4dfd48e708d87b6f3a96%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637395064951750669%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=QkiOGOjhS0DGMKqZfXNcG7ELwCAIkKtgPXLTJVYGXkQ%3D&reserved=0>), and we appreciate any efforts to circulate this with your colleagues!

Rayna Bell (California Academy of Sciences)
Kyle O'Connell, Addison Wynn, Kevin Mulder, and Kevin de Queiroz (National Museum of Natural History, Smithsonian Institution)


Addison Wynn
Museum Specialist
Division of Amphibians & Reptiles

ph: 202-633-0737; wynna at si.edu<mailto:wynna at si.edu>

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From pfinkle at caspercollege.edu  Thu Oct 29 16:13:14 2020
From: pfinkle at caspercollege.edu (Patti Finkle)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 14:13:14 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Online Data Bases
Message-ID: <CADOm2XqwmfK2dePqyJHvyCe936YvT7ZygYD-O1oKXdo9f_5j5Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all!

I work for a small paleontology museum and we are looking to write a grant
to get a collections assistant who will help us with our backlog, but also
help us load information into a format so that our collections will be
accessible online to researchers. What kinds of online, open access
databases do you recommend we look at or stay away from?

We currently use FileMaker Pro, but are not looking to put all of our info
online, just the basics, so going with FileMaker seems like overkill.
(Also, would you have to have FileMaker on your end to even use it? So many
questions!)

Thank you in advance for your help and advice. We are just starting out on
this project and really don't have any idea what options there are, but we
will be spending the next few weeks learning all about them. ;)

Thanks again,

Patti

-- 
Patti Wood Finkle
Director of Museums
~Tate Geological Museum
~Werner Wildlife Museum
Casper College
307-268-3026

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From abentley at ku.edu  Thu Oct 29 16:20:05 2020
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 20:20:05 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Online Data Bases
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Patti

I would suggest Specify ? www.specifysoftware.org<http://www.specifysoftware.org>.

Andy

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Patti Finkle <pfinkle at caspercollege.edu>
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2020 at 3:13 PM
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Online Data Bases

Hello all!

I work for a small paleontology museum and we are looking to write a grant to get a collections assistant who will help us with our backlog, but also help us load information into a format so that our collections will be accessible online to researchers. What kinds of online, open access databases do you recommend we look at or stay away from?

We currently use FileMaker Pro, but are not looking to put all of our info online, just the basics, so going with FileMaker seems like overkill. (Also, would you have to have FileMaker on your end to even use it? So many questions!)

Thank you in advance for your help and advice. We are just starting out on this project and really don't have any idea what options there are, but we will be spending the next few weeks learning all about them. ;)

Thanks again,

Patti

--
Patti Wood Finkle
Director of Museums
~Tate Geological Museum
~Werner Wildlife Museum
Casper College
307-268-3026

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From dyanega at gmail.com  Thu Oct 29 17:07:16 2020
From: dyanega at gmail.com (Douglas Yanega)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 14:07:16 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Online Data Bases
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On 10/29/20 1:13 PM, Patti Finkle wrote:
> Hello all!
>
> I work for a small paleontology museum and we are looking to write a 
> grant to get a collections assistant who will help us with our 
> backlog, but also help us load information into a format so that our 
> collections will be accessible online to researchers. What kinds of 
> online, open access databases do you recommend?we look at or stay away 
> from?
>
> We currently use FileMaker Pro, but are not looking to put all of our 
> info online, just the basics, so going with FileMaker seems like 
> overkill. (Also, would you have to have FileMaker on your end to even 
> use it? So many questions!)

We also use FileMaker Pro (some 600K records), and what we do to share 
data online is to run a script every day that exports a file to Dropbox, 
and that file is picked up by a data aggregator (DiscoverLife) and our 
records appear online. If your data fields are mostly 
Darwin-Core-Compliant, then it's easy for users to work with the shared 
data. It's a fairly simple procedure, and would not require you to 
obtain or learn any new software; just one very short script, and one 
click a day.

Peace,

-- 
Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
              https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html
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         is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82

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From pfinkle at caspercollege.edu  Thu Oct 29 18:51:33 2020
From: pfinkle at caspercollege.edu (Patti Finkle)
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 16:51:33 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Online Data Bases
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Message-ID: <CADOm2XrEW0oskzjrX127uuH+CZdVyT3vnu0S_4YeMrAZN0Bpkw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you everyone. These are some great replies and it is giving us lots
of places to start.

I appreciate the help!

On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 2:13 PM Patti Finkle <pfinkle at caspercollege.edu>
wrote:

> Hello all!
>
> I work for a small paleontology museum and we are looking to write a grant
> to get a collections assistant who will help us with our backlog, but also
> help us load information into a format so that our collections will be
> accessible online to researchers. What kinds of online, open access
> databases do you recommend we look at or stay away from?
>
> We currently use FileMaker Pro, but are not looking to put all of our info
> online, just the basics, so going with FileMaker seems like overkill.
> (Also, would you have to have FileMaker on your end to even use it? So many
> questions!)
>
> Thank you in advance for your help and advice. We are just starting out on
> this project and really don't have any idea what options there are, but we
> will be spending the next few weeks learning all about them. ;)
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Patti
>
> --
> Patti Wood Finkle
> Director of Museums
> ~Tate Geological Museum
> ~Werner Wildlife Museum
> Casper College
> 307-268-3026
>
> Correspondence sent to or from this email address is subject to the
> Wyoming Public Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties.
>


-- 
Patti Wood Finkle
Director of Museums
~Tate Geological Museum
~Werner Wildlife Museum
Casper College
307-268-3026

Correspondence sent to or from this email address is subject to the Wyoming
Public Records Act and may be disclosed to third parties.
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