[Nhcoll-l] Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: An observation on nomenclature
Derek Sikes
dssikes at alaska.edu
Thu Jan 21 14:40:25 EST 2021
I'll just chime in here, as a father of identical twins, that anyone who
thinks the word twin means 100% identical is incorrect.
-Derek
On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 9:18 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
wrote:
> Hi Michael
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> I agree on both counts and have indicated as much to the DiSCCCo folks. I
> too was worried that the word “twin” would and could be misconstrued and
> that the vast amount of additional information provided by the specimen
> itself would be lost or ignored. We have struggled in the past with views
> that once a specimen is digitized that the specimen can be discarded, and I
> worry that this terminology simply reinforces that obviously incorrect
> connotation.
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> I also agree that the coining of a new term for persistent identifiers
> simply muddies the water even further – unless there is something unique
> about PIDs that is not already conveyed by existing identifiers – which I
> am not sure there is. Our community has struggled with a proliferation of
> unique identifier systems and no coalescence around a single system that
> works for everyone. Adding another one to the mix I fear will not solve
> the problem but rather exacerbate it.
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> These are both great discussion threads that I think should be mentioned
> during the consultation coming up. I have copied Alex Hardisty who is more
> involved in the DiSCCCo process that developed both of these terms and may
> have more insights.
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> Thanks
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> Andy
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> Andy Bentley
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> Ichthyology Collection Manager
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> University of Kansas
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> Biodiversity Institute
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> Dyche Hall
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> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
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> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
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> USA
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> Tel: (785) 864-3863
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> Fax: (785) 864-5335
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> Email: abentley at ku.edu
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> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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> *From: *"Howe, Michael P.A." <mhowe at bgs.ac.uk>
> *Date: *Thursday, January 21, 2021 at 12:09 PM
> *To: *Andrew Bentley <abentley at ku.edu>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: An observation on
> nomenclature
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> Dear All,
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> As the exciting work that many of us have been engaged in for the past 10
> - 20 years, to digitze our collections and thereby make them more
> accessible, grows in support, complexity and achievement, I wish to offer a
> warning and a comment.
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> I believe the term "digital twin" should be avoided and replaced by
> "digital proxy", "digital surrogate" or just "digital specimen". The word
> twin implies that the digital specimen is absolutely identical to the
> physical specimen, which it is clearly not. The physical specimen can
> subjected to new forms of physical analysis and at greater resolutions, in
> a way that a digital surrogate cannot. Also, the cynic in me knows that
> before long, a hard pressed administrator will argue that if we have the
> digital twin we don't need the physical twin.
>
>
>
> I am also concerned with the use of the term PID - persistent identifiers.
> Collections have been using persistent identifiers - unique registration
> numbers - for over two hundred years (and the British Geological Survey
> since 1849). Actionable or executable persistent identifiers are a vital
> tool for linking to objects, but are a very much newer concept. It seems
> disingenuous of data scientists not to acknowledge two centuries of good
> practice (and all the hard work of curators and registrars) and instead use
> an acronym such as EPID or APID?
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> Any thoughts?
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>
> Thanks,
>
> Mike Howe
>
> Chief Curator, British Geological Survey
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> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
> *Sent:* 21 January 2021 16:09
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Consultation on Converging Digital and Extended
> Specimens: Towards a global specification for data integration
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> Dear all,
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> Over the past year several exciting conversations about the possibilities
> of digital representations of the billions of specimens currently held in
> the world’s natural history collections. Two concepts—the Digital Specimen
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fdissco.tech%2F2020%2F03%2F31%2Fwhat-is-a-digital-specimen%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C6ec2b3e9831f4ac20bb508d8be37c148%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637468493969878550%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=CwZhpBLJR%2BoOrRFWFeRuq2E8rbwENlrxgQne%2FeGUr70%3D&reserved=0>
> proposed by the Distributed System of Scientific Collections
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> (DiSSCo) in Europe and the Extended Specimen
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> emerging from the Biological Collections Network
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> (BCoN) in the United States—are now aligning towards a shared vision that
> connects all information related to a specimen, creating in effect “digital
> twins” for the materials held in scientific collections.
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> Plans for the *alliance
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> on Converging Digital and Extended Specimens: Towards a global
> specification for data integration
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.allianceforbio.org%2Fpost%2Fconverging-digital-and-extended-specimens-towards-a-global-specification-for-data-integration&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C6ec2b3e9831f4ac20bb508d8be37c148%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637468493969898535%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=lKll7hhjysiuIx55rmhrELCj72AzVFQ1dgrkEQpz0L4%3D&reserved=0> are
> progressing well.
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> Beginning in February, the consultation
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> will seek to engage the wider community on a handful of topics that have
> technical, financial, social, governance and professional implications that
> require broader discussion and consensus. The consultation aims to expand
> participation in the process, build support for further collaboration,
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> adoption and implementation.
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> GBIF, DiSCCo, iDigBio, ALA, and the Biodiversity Collections Network
> (BCoN), among others, invite you to register for one of the two virtual
> opening sessions that will be held on February 16 by following the links
> below and then to become involved in the Discourse consultation discussion
> process.
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> The GBIF community forum landing page for the consultation
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> with links to the discussion threads. Please see links on the landing page
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> The organizers are excited by the large attendance at recent related
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> Thanks
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> Andy (on behalf of BCoN)
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> Andy Bentley
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> Ichthyology Collection Manager
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> University of Kansas
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> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
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> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu
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> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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