From HawksC at si.edu  Tue Feb  1 06:00:06 2022
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 11:00:06 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drying study skins after flood
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Hi Angela

Please see the attached recommendations, which are based on my experience in drying study skins after disasters/emergencies.

Cathy

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Angela Hornsby
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2022 12:18 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drying study skins after flood

External Email - Exercise Caution
Hi everyone,

I'm looking for advice on saving bird study skins, up to swan size, ranging from slightly damp to soaked through.

How much success has there been drying with fume hood, drying oven (at what temperature?), drierite, rice, other?  For larger specimens that are soaked through, is it advisable to cut them open and replace the soaked cotton?  What bird size is small enough to dry on its own vs. necessitate a cotton swap?

All hypothetical questions, of course... thanks in advance.

Angela Hornsby
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From millyl at henrystewart.co.uk  Tue Feb  1 12:50:19 2022
From: millyl at henrystewart.co.uk (Milly Louch)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 17:50:19 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Henry Stewart - Free Events,
 Webinars and Articles for the GLAM Community
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From mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu  Tue Feb  1 15:07:33 2022
From: mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu (Phillips,Molly)
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2022 20:07:33 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] iDigTRIO Biology Career Conference Virtual Mentoring
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From Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org  Wed Feb  2 16:21:52 2022
From: Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org (Kennedy-Gold, Stevie)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 21:21:52 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for (herpetology)
 specimen jars
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Hello all,

The herpetology section is looking for a reliable supplier for silicone based gaskets. We use various sized glass Le Parfait jars to house our wet (70% ethanol) specimens. We previously purchased from Philly Rubber, but I have not received any replies to my recent inquiries. I would be extremely grateful for any recommendations for reasonably priced, reliable gasket suppliers!

Thank you in advance! Responses can also be sent off-list.

Stevie

Stevie Kennedy-Gold (she/her/hers)
Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
4400 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Phone: (412) 353-4690
Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org<mailto:kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org>



Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the section has limited personnel available working onsite. As such, only return loans with prior notification. Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience.




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From couteaufin at btinternet.com  Wed Feb  2 18:08:44 2022
From: couteaufin at btinternet.com (Simon Moore)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 23:08:44 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for
 (herpetology) specimen jars
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Thanks Stevie. 

No answer from me though but I would be interested to know of suppliers and also the composition of these gaskets.

With all good wishes, Simon

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,

www.natural-history-conservation.com



> On 2 Feb 2022, at 21:21, Kennedy-Gold, Stevie <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org> wrote:
> 
> Hello all,
>  
> The herpetology section is looking for a reliable supplier for silicone based gaskets. We use various sized glass Le Parfait jars to house our wet (70% ethanol) specimens. We previously purchased from Philly Rubber, but I have not received any replies to my recent inquiries. I would be extremely grateful for any recommendations for reasonably priced, reliable gasket suppliers!
>  
> Thank you in advance! Responses can also be sent off-list.
>  
> Stevie
>  
> Stevie Kennedy-Gold (she/her/hers)
> Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
> Carnegie Museum of Natural History
> 4400 Forbes Ave.
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
> Phone: (412) 353-4690
> Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org
>  
>  
>  
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> 
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From abentley at ku.edu  Wed Feb  2 18:41:09 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2022 23:41:09 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for
 (herpetology) specimen jars
Message-ID: <024BA696-3875-432D-B78D-375ED017B8F0@ku.edu>

Stevie

We have been using buna-n durometer gaskets for our Le Parfait and other gasketed jars for some time now.  We order from Manufactured Rubber Products in Philadelphia (not sure if this is the same company you referenced) but must admit that we have not ordered in some time (we still have a large supply of various sizes).  We use these to replace the regular red rubber gaskets that do not hold up under alcohol conditions.  They function great even though we are slowly but surely moving away from gasketed jars to jars purchased from O?Berk - https://www.oberk.com/containers/glass/glass-jar.  We order 8oz, 16oz, 32oz, 64oz, half gallon and gallon jars with polypropylene/polyethylene lids as attached.

Hope that helps.  Happy to answer any further questions.

Andy

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Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of "Kennedy-Gold, Stevie" <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:47 PM
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for (herpetology) specimen jars

Hello all,

The herpetology section is looking for a reliable supplier for silicone based gaskets. We use various sized glass Le Parfait jars to house our wet (70% ethanol) specimens. We previously purchased from Philly Rubber, but I have not received any replies to my recent inquiries. I would be extremely grateful for any recommendations for reasonably priced, reliable gasket suppliers!

Thank you in advance! Responses can also be sent off-list.

Stevie

Stevie Kennedy-Gold (she/her/hers)
Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
4400 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Phone: (412) 353-4690
Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org<mailto:kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org>



Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the section has limited personnel available working onsite. As such, only return loans with prior notification. Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience.




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From Tonya.Haff at csiro.au  Thu Feb  3 01:10:25 2022
From: Tonya.Haff at csiro.au (Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace))
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 06:10:25 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for
 (herpetology) specimen jars
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Hi all,

On this topic, I am wondering if any of you have used silicone liners for jars containing specimens in ETOH/formalin? I know that silicone holds up better over time than rubber, but is it preferred over PTFE or F217, if given the choice?

Cheers,

Tonya

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: Thursday, 3 February 2022 10:41 AM
To: Kennedy-Gold, Stevie <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for (herpetology) specimen jars

Stevie

We have been using buna-n durometer gaskets for our Le Parfait and other gasketed jars for some time now.  We order from Manufactured Rubber Products in Philadelphia (not sure if this is the same company you referenced) but must admit that we have not ordered in some time (we still have a large supply of various sizes).  We use these to replace the regular red rubber gaskets that do not hold up under alcohol conditions.  They function great even though we are slowly but surely moving away from gasketed jars to jars purchased from O?Berk - https://www.oberk.com/containers/glass/glass-jar.  We order 8oz, 16oz, 32oz, 64oz, half gallon and gallon jars with polypropylene/polyethylene lids as attached.

Hope that helps.  Happy to answer any further questions.

Andy

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     V                   V                  V
Andy Bentley
Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of "Kennedy-Gold, Stevie" <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org<mailto:Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>>
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:47 PM
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for (herpetology) specimen jars

Hello all,

The herpetology section is looking for a reliable supplier for silicone based gaskets. We use various sized glass Le Parfait jars to house our wet (70% ethanol) specimens. We previously purchased from Philly Rubber, but I have not received any replies to my recent inquiries. I would be extremely grateful for any recommendations for reasonably priced, reliable gasket suppliers!

Thank you in advance! Responses can also be sent off-list.

Stevie

Stevie Kennedy-Gold (she/her/hers)
Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
4400 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Phone: (412) 353-4690
Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org<mailto:kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org>



Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the section has limited personnel available working onsite. As such, only return loans with prior notification. Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience.




The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender.
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From Bo.Delling at nrm.se  Thu Feb  3 06:14:53 2022
From: Bo.Delling at nrm.se (Bo Delling)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 11:14:53 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
Message-ID: <28b07ffccde845a4968356333ea1b004@nrm.se>

Dear all,
Up to recently we had a giant squid Architeuthis sp. in exhibition ("Liv in Vatten" = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
-Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding concentration and suitable buffer?
My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
All the best,
Bo


Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
Curator of Fishes and Herptiles

Swedish Museum of Natural History
Department of Zoology
Frescativ?gen 44
P.O. Box 50007
SE-104 05 Stockholm

Phone: +46 85195 4240

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From A.J.van_Dam at lumc.nl  Thu Feb  3 07:21:48 2022
From: A.J.van_Dam at lumc.nl (A.J.van_Dam at lumc.nl)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 12:21:48 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
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Why not transfer it to non-hazardous and non-volatile glycerin?


I have been involved as consultant in two projects in London and Perth to exhibit in glycerin a 4 meter long marlin and a 5 meter long megamouth shark. I am frequently travelling to Stockholm and we could plan a meeting to talk more about it at your convenience.


This recently published paper in Collection Forum might be of iinterest:

<https://meridian.allenpress.com/collection-forum/article/34/1/118/472750/Finding-A-Cure-for-Hazardous-Collections-The-Road>https://meridian.allenpress.com/collection-forum/article/34/1/118/472750/Finding-A-Cure-for-Hazardous-Collections-The-Road



Kind regards,


Dries

Andries J. van Dam<http://www.linkedin.com/in/andriesvandam> | curator-conservator

Anatomical Museum<https://www.lumc.nl/onderwijs/over-ons/anatomisch-museum/?setlanguage=English&setcountry=en> | Leiden University Medical Center | Building 3 (V3-32)
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Van: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> namens Bo Delling <Bo.Delling at nrm.se>
Verzonden: donderdag 3 februari 2022 12:14:53
Aan: 'nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu'
Onderwerp: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol

Dear all,
Up to recently we had a giant squid Architeuthis sp. in exhibition (?Liv in Vatten? = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
-Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding concentration and suitable buffer?
My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
All the best,
Bo


Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
Curator of Fishes and Herptiles

Swedish Museum of Natural History
Department of Zoology
Frescativ?gen 44
P.O. Box 50007
SE-104 05 Stockholm

Phone: +46 85195 4240

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From info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de  Thu Feb  3 07:53:10 2022
From: info at naturhistorische-konservierung.de (Fabian Neisskenwirth)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 09:53:10 -0300
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for
 (herpetology) specimen jars
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Dear Stevie,


I would recommend you to ask some plastics or rubber manufacturing 
company if they can cut you a big batch with specific sizes. When I 
worked in the Ruhr Museum in Essen I ordered a little batch of 150 
gaskets made of fluorine rubber which is very resistant to both ethanol 
an formaldehyde fumes (see attachment). The nice thing about letting 
them be made by the company was that I could customize the size, the 
material and all necessary characteristics. Usually the plastics come as 
long rolls in different strengths, so the rubber manufacturer just cut 
the rings out of the rubber "sheet". Ask some rubber manufacturers about 
companies that could help, that's how I got through.


About the material:

There is a wide span of materials which are much better that silicone if 
you want to contain ethanol. Silicone is permeable to ethanol. If you 
are topping-up regularly, it should work fine, but the ethanol will 
evaporate with time. Rubbers like EPDM or the Buna-O (which is NBR) that 
Andy talked about are much more suitable for ethanol. The problem with 
fluorine rubber (beside its price) is that it is very hard (arround 
70-75? Shore) so its not very elastic, still it has worked out very well.


To Tonya?s question:

The same counts for the liners, silicone is in this case very resistant 
to formaldehyde fumes, but I have not seen pure silicone cap liners 
anywhere and it will let ethanol escape at some point. The GLS 80 jars 
from Duran have a new special cap with a silicone/PTFE coated liners 
that work incredibly good, but they only fit on that jars: 
https://www.dwk.com/duran-pure-gls-80-screw-cap

Since Duran makes very good borosilicate jars, I would strongly 
recommend to have this in mind. At a certain amount, it would be 
possible to manufacture some batch of jars without any filling markers. 
As I was informed 3 years ago.


Hope this helps, all best to both of you!


Am 03.02.22 um 03:10 schrieb Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace):
>
> Hi all,
>
> On this topic, I am wondering if any of you have used silicone liners 
> for jars containing specimens in ETOH/formalin? I know that silicone 
> holds up better over time than rubber, but is it preferred over PTFE 
> or F217, if given the choice?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tonya
>
> *From:*Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of 
> *Bentley, Andrew Charles
> *Sent:* Thursday, 3 February 2022 10:41 AM
> *To:* Kennedy-Gold, Stevie <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>; 
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for 
> (herpetology) specimen jars
>
> Stevie
>
> We have been using buna-n durometer gaskets for our Le Parfait and 
> other gasketed jars for some time now.? We order from Manufactured 
> Rubber Products in Philadelphia (not sure if this is the same company 
> you referenced) but must admit that we have not ordered in some time 
> (we still have a large supply of various sizes).? We use these to 
> replace the regular red rubber gaskets that do not hold up under 
> alcohol conditions.? They function great even though we are slowly but 
> surely moving away from gasketed jars to jars purchased from O?Berk - 
> https://www.oberk.com/containers/glass/glass-jar.? We order 8oz, 16oz, 
> 32oz, 64oz, half gallon and gallon jars with 
> polypropylene/polyethylene lids as attached.
>
> Hope that helps.? Happy to answer any further questions.
>
> Andy
>
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>
> Andy Bentley
>
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>
> University of Kansas
>
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu <mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu 
> <http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>
>
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>
> *From: *Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of 
> "Kennedy-Gold, Stevie" <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>
> *Date: *Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:47 PM
> *To: *"nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *[Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for 
> (herpetology) specimen jars
>
> Hello all,
>
> The herpetology section is looking for a reliable supplier for 
> silicone based gaskets. We use various sized glass Le Parfait jars to 
> house our wet (70% ethanol) specimens. We previously purchased from 
> Philly Rubber, but I have not received any replies to my recent 
> inquiries. I would be extremely grateful for any recommendations for 
> reasonably priced, reliable gasket suppliers!
>
> Thank you in advance! Responses can also be sent off-list.
>
> Stevie
>
> *//*
>
> *Stevie Kennedy-Gold*(she/her/hers)
>
> Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
>
> Carnegie Museum of Natural History
>
> 4400 Forbes Ave.
>
> Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>
> Phone: (412) 353-4690
>
> Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org//
>
> Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the section has limited 
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From EAshe at museum.ie  Thu Feb  3 08:52:24 2022
From: EAshe at museum.ie (Ashe, Eimear)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 13:52:24 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] bird skin storage
Message-ID: <36BD508C3181C94582DC29861FF833EE5FC490C7@NMCB-MLBX-SRV01.internal.museum.ie>

Hi all,

Would anyone like to share how they store their bird skin collection? Images or links to websites/blogs are welcome! Any pros/cons of the system you have chosen?

Our collection is currently in old wooden drawers with glass lids, and inserted into wooden carcasses with doors. We're considering updating to make them safer, more accessible, and make better use of the small space we have.

Kind regards,

Eimear


Eimear Ashe,
Documentation Officer (Natural History),
Registration Department,
National Museum of Ireland - Collections Resource Centre,
Balheary Road,
Swords,
Co. Dublin,
Ireland.
K67 VR88

T: +353-1-8970069


https://www.museum.ie/en-IE/Museums/Decorative-Arts-History/Exhibitions/Studio-State
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From Dee.Stubbs-Lee at nbm-mnb.ca  Thu Feb  3 09:04:13 2022
From: Dee.Stubbs-Lee at nbm-mnb.ca (Dee Stubbs-Lee)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 14:04:13 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?
Message-ID: <63fb994f0b954196b3e16c0b3de86d52@NBMEX01.NBM.local>

Apologies for cross posting.

A colleague in our Geology and Palaeontology section has asked my opinion on a new product that has come to his attention that is being marketed as preventing or correcting pyrite disease (www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop<https://www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop>). As my experience with mineralogical collections is quite limited, I would like to get thoughts from colleagues on the listserv about the product's suitability for use with pyritic materials in museum mineralogical collections, particularly where both environmental control in collections storage and laboratory ventilation are sub-optimal.

Thank you,
Dee


Dee A. Stubbs-Lee, MA, CAPC
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada

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From nmonaghan at museum.ie  Thu Feb  3 09:16:36 2022
From: nmonaghan at museum.ie (Monaghan, Nigel)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 14:16:36 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?
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References: <63fb994f0b954196b3e16c0b3de86d52@NBMEX01.NBM.local>
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Dee

This is in use since 1984 for treating pyrite decay in fossils and their matrix, and can be very effective. https://www.palass.org/publications/palaeontology-journal/archive/27/2/article_pp421-424

It is a brand name for monoethanolaminethioglycollate (we call it ET for short in our museum!). Highly alkaline and corrosive, check safety sheets and read up using more recent publications before using. It is supplied at 40% and used at around 4% in solvents or as a poultice. It turns purple when it has reacted with the pyrite breakdown products. Multiple applications will see paler purple and eventually clear, indicating you work is done. Washing out pyrite decay products is often followed by consolidation to retain physical integrity of the specimen.

Nigel

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Dee Stubbs-Lee
Sent: Thursday 3 February 2022 14:04
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?

Apologies for cross posting.

A colleague in our Geology and Palaeontology section has asked my opinion on a new product that has come to his attention that is being marketed as preventing or correcting pyrite disease (www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop<https://www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop>). As my experience with mineralogical collections is quite limited, I would like to get thoughts from colleagues on the listserv about the product's suitability for use with pyritic materials in museum mineralogical collections, particularly where both environmental control in collections storage and laboratory ventilation are sub-optimal.

Thank you,
Dee


Dee A. Stubbs-Lee, MA, CAPC
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada

(506) 643-2341


https://www.museum.ie/en-IE/Museums/Decorative-Arts-History/Exhibitions/Studio-State
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From Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org  Thu Feb  3 10:08:45 2022
From: Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org (Kennedy-Gold, Stevie)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 15:08:45 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for
 (herpetology) specimen jars
In-Reply-To: <024BA696-3875-432D-B78D-375ED017B8F0@ku.edu>
References: <024BA696-3875-432D-B78D-375ED017B8F0@ku.edu>
Message-ID: <BYAPR02MB5301EAFA37F2104645BF32B1FD289@BYAPR02MB5301.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Hi again,

I should have clarified? we too use buna-n gaskets, and our last purchase was in 2017 from Manufactured Rubber Products (aka Philly Rubber). Unfortunately, their product page appears broken online, and they haven?t replied to both emails and phone calls. If others have had recent luck getting in touch with them, do let me know!

I do want to (eventually) switch to the O?Berk style jar. That will be a slow acquisition though. Thank you Andy for sending that supplier along ? it?s nice to know of a tried-and-true supplier!

For others following this thread, another member reach out and recommended Buna-n rubber gaskets from either Potomac Rubber Company (301-336-7400) or Raleigh Rubber and Gasket (919-781-6817).

Please keep the recommendations coming! Thank you.

Stevie

Stevie Kennedy-Gold (she/her/hers)
Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
4400 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Phone: (412) 353-4690
Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org<mailto:kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org>



Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the section has limited personnel available working onsite. As such, only return loans with prior notification. Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience.

From: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2022 6:41 PM
To: Kennedy-Gold, Stevie <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for (herpetology) specimen jars

Stevie

We have been using buna-n durometer gaskets for our Le Parfait and other gasketed jars for some time now.  We order from Manufactured Rubber Products in Philadelphia (not sure if this is the same company you referenced) but must admit that we have not ordered in some time (we still have a large supply of various sizes).  We use these to replace the regular red rubber gaskets that do not hold up under alcohol conditions.  They function great even though we are slowly but surely moving away from gasketed jars to jars purchased from O?Berk - https://www.oberk.com/containers/glass/glass-jar<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fwww.oberk.com%2fcontainers%2fglass%2fglass-jar&c=E,1,BDWkaYNQk70ebHPFLGtLp7E8wbxvHaLSXZ6SQ1k_hNPyfkX-KRCPDq4UMKWdBmgz8VHXXSZRHW_MQiN0LdjKF1BozppYtq1iYCEXlGRg0jJ44mfx&typo=1>.  We order 8oz, 16oz, 32oz, 64oz, half gallon and gallon jars with polypropylene/polyethylene lids as attached.

Hope that helps.  Happy to answer any further questions.

Andy

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Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of "Kennedy-Gold, Stevie" <Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org<mailto:Kennedy-GoldS at CarnegieMnh.Org>>
Date: Wednesday, February 2, 2022 at 3:47 PM
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Supplier for silicone based gaskets for (herpetology) specimen jars

Hello all,

The herpetology section is looking for a reliable supplier for silicone based gaskets. We use various sized glass Le Parfait jars to house our wet (70% ethanol) specimens. We previously purchased from Philly Rubber, but I have not received any replies to my recent inquiries. I would be extremely grateful for any recommendations for reasonably priced, reliable gasket suppliers!

Thank you in advance! Responses can also be sent off-list.

Stevie

Stevie Kennedy-Gold (she/her/hers)
Collection Manager of Section of Amphibians and Reptiles
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
4400 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Phone: (412) 353-4690
Email: kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org<mailto:kennedy-golds at carnegiemnh.org>



Due to the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic, the section has limited personnel available working onsite. As such, only return loans with prior notification. Thank you for your cooperation, and apologies for any inconvenience.




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From Christian.Baars at liverpoolmuseums.org.uk  Thu Feb  3 12:46:32 2022
From: Christian.Baars at liverpoolmuseums.org.uk (Baars, Christian)
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2022 17:46:32 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?
In-Reply-To: <63fb994f0b954196b3e16c0b3de86d52@NBMEX01.NBM.local>
References: <63fb994f0b954196b3e16c0b3de86d52@NBMEX01.NBM.local>
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Hi Dee,

I had not yet heard of this product but it appears to be ethanolamine thioglycolate which is based on a treatment described by Lorraine Cornish (please see reference attached). This treatment is still in use today, although alternatives exist (e.g., ammonia - please see ammonite treatment paper attached).

In this context a new publication (also attached) may provide some answers on preventing damage to mineral and other geological specimens to avoid having to subject them to treatment - although this won't save them from historic damage of course, nor resolve the issues you mention if environmental control is not currently ideal. But treating specimens and then placing them in the same poor environments has considerable resource implications.

Best regards
Christian


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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Dee Stubbs-Lee
Sent: 03 February 2022 14:04
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?

Apologies for cross posting.

A colleague in our Geology and Palaeontology section has asked my opinion on a new product that has come to his attention that is being marketed as preventing or correcting pyrite disease (www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop<https://www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop>). As my experience with mineralogical collections is quite limited, I would like to get thoughts from colleagues on the listserv about the product's suitability for use with pyritic materials in museum mineralogical collections, particularly where both environmental control in collections storage and laboratory ventilation are sub-optimal.

Thank you,
Dee


Dee A. Stubbs-Lee, MA, CAPC
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
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Canada

(506) 643-2341

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From Bo.Delling at nrm.se  Fri Feb  4 10:40:28 2022
From: Bo.Delling at nrm.se (Bo Delling)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 15:40:28 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
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Hi again,

Thank you all for detailed and interesting information on this topic. Glycerol seems to be very interesting making nice specimens for exhibitions if you have fresh specimens with nice color. I will try it in the future for some small richly coloured fish. Is it correct that if you keep the concentration at 65% you don't run in to problems with mould?

Regarding our squid(s) they aren't that nice and if we can't continue with ethanol I think we transfer selected specimen to a formalin solution after all (Jon, thank you for the publication with relevant references). James, I will check if we have any pictures and size estimates. The length of the mantel is about 1 m for both specimens. Ironically, the one we had for display is the one in worst condition (in several pieces, semi rotten I would say) collected close to Scotland around 1990 or so. The other one was collected by a shrimp trawler from Sweden in 1960 and this specimen have commonly been referred to as "the green squid" . Initially it was stored in a tank made of cupper. Nevertheless it's in much better physical condition and consequently we will continue having a giant squid on display but not the same specimen.

Cheers,

Bo


Fr?n: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> F?r Bo Delling
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?mne: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol

Dear all,
Up to recently we had a giant squid Architeuthis sp. in exhibition ("Liv in Vatten" = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
-Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding concentration and suitable buffer?
My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
All the best,
Bo


Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
Curator of Fishes and Herptiles

Swedish Museum of Natural History
Department of Zoology
Frescativ?gen 44
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From arivera at oeb.harvard.edu  Fri Feb  4 12:00:34 2022
From: arivera at oeb.harvard.edu (Rivera, Alana V)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:00:34 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Google Earth fix?
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I agree with Lisa that you can import an appropriate file into google earth (I'm a fan of https://www.nohrsc.noaa.gov/data/vector/master/cnt_us.kmz for US counties).

As many others have stated here, definitely prefer Geolocate's flexibility of overlays for accomplishing the same task with less clicks.

Cheers,
Alana Rivera
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MCZ - Malacology
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Hi Douglas,
I use KML files in Google Earth to define county boundaries. Reliable versions of these are usually available from individual state GIS portals (here's California's<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gis.data.ca.gov_datasets_CALFIRE-2DForestry-3A-3Acalifornia-2Dcounty-2Dboundaries_explore-3Flocation-3D37.246136-252C-2D119.002032-252C6.77&d=DwMFAg&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=1dUmGL6iQoWCRfCMtDquIP6bP-2E-BQPmr05PMtPcGE&m=qPlBD71uTi9C0yGQnL96dwanIgSs1rHfYrgtCkC2DZgYDbTAjsmyCN2kwes5XEZv&s=zgLsj8ZzyGuTlBP7uzWdQYdH7sd2Csy69oWiS5ZJUPQ&e=>), the US Census Bureau (available here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.census.gov_geographies_mapping-2Dfiles_time-2Dseries_geo_kml-2Dcartographic-2Dboundary-2Dfiles.html&d=DwMFAg&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=1dUmGL6iQoWCRfCMtDquIP6bP-2E-BQPmr05PMtPcGE&m=qPlBD71uTi9C0yGQnL96dwanIgSs1rHfYrgtCkC2DZgYDbTAjsmyCN2kwes5XEZv&s=h7kqKZks4xzihrwlBvOGlIN8PxFA2XCwHqDy_2qTJ48&e=>), and the FCC (here<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.fcc.gov_media_radio_us-2Dcounty-2Doverlays-2Dkml&d=DwMFAg&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=1dUmGL6iQoWCRfCMtDquIP6bP-2E-BQPmr05PMtPcGE&m=qPlBD71uTi9C0yGQnL96dwanIgSs1rHfYrgtCkC2DZgYDbTAjsmyCN2kwes5XEZv&s=82akVT3ZWnNSIkTwOOam5xjsMcUPWXoyjv1gv1yXOXE&e=>). You should be able to simply download the KML file and open it in Google Earth's desktop software, enable the layer, and click on the area within the boundaries to define the county name.  These sources also usually have state and municipality boundaries in KML format as well.

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Sent: Thursday, January 6, 2022 1:45 PM
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Google Earth fix?

Hi, all.

As part of our normal routine for georeferencing legacy material, I and
others here who work with specimen data capture use Google Earth. Much
of this activity was curtailed during the pandemic, and we're just now
getting back to some of this. It's come to my attention that - evidently
- Google Earth no longer shows the boundaries of counties in the US.

State boundaries, yes, zip code boundaries, yes, but there used to be
county boundaries and county names, and they appear to be entirely gone
now. This promises to entail a significant addition to the time required
for us to properly capture data, and in some cases will make assignment
to county impossible, when a point maps along a road that crosses a
county line (e.g., we need to data capture three points along Hwy 380
between Bingham and Carrizozo, NM, and somewhere between those towns
there is a county line between Socorro and Lincoln counties - but it's
invisible). Yes, points mapping to a town or named place are generally
fine, but points along roads often require a visual confirmation as to
which side of a county line they are on, and that can't be done if
Google Earth has permanently removed county lines from their display.

I'm sure we're not alone in having made extensive use of this feature,
and wanting to have it back. Short of a massive letter-writing campaign
to Google Earth admins, does anyone know a fix for this?

Thanks in advance,

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From A.J.van_Dam at lumc.nl  Fri Feb  4 12:08:57 2022
From: A.J.van_Dam at lumc.nl (A.J.van_Dam at lumc.nl)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:08:57 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
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Dear Bo,


Indeed, as long the glycerol concentration is at or above 65% and the humidity in your facility is kept below 70% mould cannot grow.


When will the new exiibit be ready? Would definitely pay a visit to see the result.


Succes, Dries

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Onderwerp: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol

Hi again,

Thank you all for detailed and interesting information on this topic. Glycerol seems to be very interesting making nice specimens for exhibitions if you have fresh specimens with nice color. I will try it in the future for some small richly coloured fish. Is it correct that if you keep the concentration at 65% you don?t run in to problems with mould?

Regarding our squid(s) they aren?t that nice and if we can?t continue with ethanol I think we transfer selected specimen to a formalin solution after all (Jon, thank you for the publication with relevant references). James, I will check if we have any pictures and size estimates. The length of the mantel is about 1 m for both specimens. Ironically, the one we had for display is the one in worst condition (in several pieces, semi rotten I would say) collected close to Scotland around 1990 or so. The other one was collected by a shrimp trawler from Sweden in 1960 and this specimen have commonly been referred to as ?the green squid? . Initially it was stored in a tank made of cupper. Nevertheless it?s in much better physical condition and consequently we will continue having a giant squid on display but not the same specimen.

Cheers,

Bo


Fr?n: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> F?r Bo Delling
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?mne: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol

Dear all,
Up to recently we had a giant squid Architeuthis sp. in exhibition (?Liv in Vatten? = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
-Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding concentration and suitable buffer?
My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
All the best,
Bo


Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
Curator of Fishes and Herptiles

Swedish Museum of Natural History
Department of Zoology
Frescativ?gen 44
P.O. Box 50007
SE-104 05 Stockholm

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From Christian.Baars at liverpoolmuseums.org.uk  Fri Feb  4 12:31:42 2022
From: Christian.Baars at liverpoolmuseums.org.uk (Baars, Christian)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 17:31:42 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?
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Hi Dee,

I am trying again because, apparently, my response is being held by the moderator due to exceeding the permissible file size - I had attached some references but will replace these with links now.

I had not yet heard of this product but it appears to be ethanolamine thioglycolate which is based on a treatment described by Lorraine Cornish (https://www.palass.org/sites/default/files/media/publications/palaeontology/volume_27/vol27_part2_pp421-424.pdf, ). This treatment is still in use today, although alternatives exist (e.g., ammonia - https://www.natsca.org/article/85).

In this context a new publication (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00393630.2021.2015947) may provide some answers on preventing damage to mineral and other geological specimens to avoid having to subject them to treatment - although this won't save them from historic damage of course, nor resolve the issues you mention if environmental control is not currently ideal. But treating specimens and then placing them in the same poor environments has considerable resource implications.

Best regards
Christian


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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Dee Stubbs-Lee
Sent: 03 February 2022 14:04
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] thoughts on "Pyrite Stop" product?

Apologies for cross posting.

A colleague in our Geology and Palaeontology section has asked my opinion on a new product that has come to his attention that is being marketed as preventing or correcting pyrite disease (www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop<https://www.zoicpalaeotech.co.uk/products/pyrite-stop>). As my experience with mineralogical collections is quite limited, I would like to get thoughts from colleagues on the listserv about the product's suitability for use with pyritic materials in museum mineralogical collections, particularly where both environmental control in collections storage and laboratory ventilation are sub-optimal.

Thank you,
Dee


Dee A. Stubbs-Lee, MA, CAPC
Conservator / Restauratrice
New Brunswick Museum
277 Douglas Avenue
Saint John, New Brunswick
E2K 1E5
Canada

(506) 643-2341

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From neumann at snsb.de  Fri Feb  4 12:42:43 2022
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2022 18:42:43 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
In-Reply-To: <91d21f50004b497aaba41ce212194934@nrm.se>
References: <28b07ffccde845a4968356333ea1b004@nrm.se>
 <91d21f50004b497aaba41ce212194934@nrm.se>
Message-ID: <9ae23f3d-2210-2867-d04b-1193c3acfc4c@snsb.de>

Hi Bo,

maybe a comment pointing into a slightly different direction (similar to 
what colleagues did in Berlin), as you mentioned you are planning for a 
major renovation of your exhibitions:

An alternative would be to have a cabinet that is "inaccessible" for 
visitors and equipped with necessary installations to comply with 
fire-safety regulations (like a tank in an public aquarium). Thus the 
specimen would be visible for the visitors, the container as such 
however would not be part of the publicly accessible visitor space. This 
could help to avoid transferring the specimen into a different fluid, 
potentially causing secondary conservation problems.

At the MfN in Berlin they used this alternative to make the fluid 
collections accessible and discoverable for visitors, while keeping the 
visitor and collection space simultaneously strictly separated. They 
also used this concept for a huge glass cabinet that shows a large 
diversity of collection objects on display, including fluid-preserved 
specimens.

Maybe worth a thought ...

With best wishes
Dirk


Am 04.02.2022 um 16:40 schrieb Bo Delling:
>
> Hi again,
>
> Thank you all for detailed and interesting information on this topic. 
> Glycerol seems to be very interesting making nice specimens for 
> exhibitions if you have fresh specimens with nice color. I will try it 
> in the future for some small richly coloured fish. Is it correct that 
> if you keep the concentration at 65% you don?t run in to problems with 
> mould?
>
> Regarding our squid(s) they aren?t that nice and if we can?t continue 
> with ethanol I think we transfer selected specimen to a formalin 
> solution after all (Jon, thank you for the publication with relevant 
> references). James, I will check if we have any pictures and size 
> estimates. The length of the mantel is about 1 m for both specimens. 
> Ironically, the one we had for display is the one in worst condition 
> (in several pieces, semi rotten I would say) collected close to 
> Scotland around 1990 or so. The other one was collected by a shrimp 
> trawler from Sweden in 1960 and this specimen have commonly been 
> referred to as ?the green squid? . Initially it was stored in a tank 
> made of cupper. Nevertheless it?s in much better physical condition 
> and consequently we will continue having a giant squid on display but 
> not the same specimen.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bo
>
> *Fr?n:*Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *F?r *Bo Delling
> *Skickat:* den 3 februari 2022 12:15
> *Till:* 'nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu' <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *?mne:* [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
>
> Dear all,
>
> Up to recently we had a giant squid /Architeuthis /sp/. /in exhibition 
> (?Liv in Vatten? = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an 
> aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning 
> for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from 
> scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we 
> might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea 
> that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
>
> -Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding 
> concentration and suitable buffer?
>
> My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) 
> that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them 
> now and then in the scientific collection and according to older 
> documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because 
> the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very 
> nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin 
> solution) looks like clear water.
>
> All the best,
>
> Bo
>
> Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
>
> Curator of Fishes and Herptiles
>
> Swedish Museum of Natural History
>
> Department of Zoology
>
> Frescativ?gen 44
>
> P.O. Box 50007
>
> SE-104 05 Stockholm
>
> Phone: +46 85195 4240
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. Seehttp://www.spnhc.org  for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.


-- 


Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

Postanschrift:

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Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
M?nchhausenstr. 21
81247 M?nchen

Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/

---------

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Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

postal address:

Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
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From bcarlson at ptmsc.org  Sun Feb  6 17:03:41 2022
From: bcarlson at ptmsc.org (Betsy Carlson)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 14:03:41 -0800
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Ideas for orca teeth from ethanol to dry for display?
Message-ID: <CACRwvqUc-J2e8EAz7TAnbXBcoXoKxpLVRdve8c6ft9iTD29oQw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

We have a full set of orca teeth that have been preserved in ethanol since
the female transient orca's skeleton was prepared for display in our museum
over 15 years ago. We are looking for recommendations on how to keep them
from cracking once they are removed from the ethanol, and the best way to
preserve them for future use in the exhibit. The teeth will not go into the
skeleton (there are replicas there now). But into a covered display case.
Any thoughts?

Thank you,
Betsy

---
Betsy Carlson *(she/her)*
Citizen Science Coordinator
*Port Townsend Marine Science Center*
*phone: 360-385-5582 x 301*
*532 Battery Way, Port Townsend, WA 98368*
*For a Marine Mammal Stranding call 866-767-6114 or **locally to PTMSC:
360-385-5582 x 103*

*** I work an irregular schedule and will reply as soon as possible***

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*Inspiring Conservation of the Salish Sea f**or over 35 years*

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From simmons.johne at gmail.com  Sun Feb  6 17:39:10 2022
From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 17:39:10 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Ideas for orca teeth from ethanol to dry for display?
In-Reply-To: <CACRwvqUc-J2e8EAz7TAnbXBcoXoKxpLVRdve8c6ft9iTD29oQw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CACRwvqUc-J2e8EAz7TAnbXBcoXoKxpLVRdve8c6ft9iTD29oQw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAF7GCDahXuXZwB4Tri8rgvVy-9SFugpBjwrBT7hAdci_4s0tWg@mail.gmail.com>

I strongly recommend leaving them in alcohol. I you remove them, they will
dry out, beginning with the outer layers, and as they outer layers dry and
shrink the teeth will crack. Your best option is to make a cast of the
teeth and use the cast for exhibition purpose.

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Sun, Feb 6, 2022 at 5:04 PM Betsy Carlson <bcarlson at ptmsc.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> We have a full set of orca teeth that have been preserved in ethanol since
> the female transient orca's skeleton was prepared for display in our museum
> over 15 years ago. We are looking for recommendations on how to keep them
> from cracking once they are removed from the ethanol, and the best way to
> preserve them for future use in the exhibit. The teeth will not go into the
> skeleton (there are replicas there now). But into a covered display case.
> Any thoughts?
>
> Thank you,
> Betsy
>
> ---
> Betsy Carlson *(she/her)*
> Citizen Science Coordinator
> *Port Townsend Marine Science Center*
> *phone: 360-385-5582 x 301*
> *532 Battery Way, Port Townsend, WA 98368*
> *For a Marine Mammal Stranding call 866-767-6114 or **locally to PTMSC:
> 360-385-5582 x 103*
>
> *** I work an irregular schedule and will reply as soon as possible***
>
> [image: Check out our website!] <https://ptmsc.org/>
>
> *Inspiring Conservation of the Salish Sea f**or over 35 years*
>
> www.ptmsc.org *| Follow us on** Facebook
> <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Port-Townsend-Marine-Science-Center/64955379712>*
> *!*
>
> <https://ptmsc.org/get-involved/donate>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
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> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
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From cearly at smm.org  Mon Feb  7 14:55:17 2022
From: cearly at smm.org (Catherine Early (she/her))
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 13:55:17 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] resource for shell ID
Message-ID: <CAHKLds8xt4CJuM90-UORPa+1Kp+nfsd65V==U_xcZ404atmLew@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

Some shells were donated to our Collectors' Corner
<https://new.smm.org/exhibits-experiences/collectors-corner> for
trading and we think that some of them are species of abalone that are
protected in the US, but we don't have the expertise to confirm it. Is
there a good resource for shell ID beyond what we've found on the internet
in situations like this? Or would anyone on this list be willing to look at
photos of four shells? We don't put anything protected into circulation at
the Collectors' Corner so we have plenty of donations that have sat in
limbo due to unknown restriction status and would like to not add these to
that pile if they aren't protected.

Thanks,
Catherine

<https://www.smm.org/>

*Catherine M. Early, PhD*

she/her

*Barbara Brown Chair of Ornithology*

e: cearly at smm.org

https://catherineearly.wixsite.com/home

We envision a world where everyone has the power to use science to make
lives better,
and we are committed to using STEM as a tool to advocate for justice and
equity.
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From simmons.johne at gmail.com  Mon Feb  7 16:47:15 2022
From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 16:47:15 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
In-Reply-To: <9ae23f3d-2210-2867-d04b-1193c3acfc4c@snsb.de>
References: <28b07ffccde845a4968356333ea1b004@nrm.se>
 <91d21f50004b497aaba41ce212194934@nrm.se>
 <9ae23f3d-2210-2867-d04b-1193c3acfc4c@snsb.de>
Message-ID: <CAF7GCDZ83Ca8ermuNSu_ogdzgcZp5GAVfLcBMCCLzOQTLK5peg@mail.gmail.com>

A few caveats about glycerin:

Before committing to putting a large squid in glycerin, you should test how
it will behave due to the difference in density between alcohol (0.890
g/cm3) vs. glycerin (at 100%, it is 1.26 g/cm3, though of course diluted to
60% will be a bit less). This may be important due to the density of the
specimen itself compared to the density of vertebrate specimens stored in
glycerin.

As you work on the design for the new exhibit, don't forget that due to its
density, the volume of glycerin will be a lot heavier than a similar volume
of alcohol. In a large aquarium-type exhibition this weight difference may
affect seams and seals.

Lastly, mold in the glycerin is not the only thing you have to worry
about--don't forget bacterial infestations. Using some sort of biocide as a
preventive measure may be necessary (traditionally thymol has been used,
but as Simon Moore has pointed out, you can use less dangerous chemicals
such as camphor as well). The other aspect of contamination is that if the
seal on the container is faulty so that it admits mold spores or bacteria,
in a humid environment the hygroscopic glycerin can absorb enough moisture
to overflow the container. In a previous job I had to to take care of a
collection of about 3,000 cleared-and-stained specimens stored in glycerin,
and even though there was next to no loss due to evaporation, during a
humid summer we could always count on a few containers overflowing (we had
no mold or bacterial issues becaused thymol as a biocide).

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 12:47 PM Dirk Neumann <neumann at snsb.de> wrote:

> Hi Bo,
>
> maybe a comment pointing into a slightly different direction (similar to
> what colleagues did in Berlin), as you mentioned you are planning for a
> major renovation of your exhibitions:
>
> An alternative would be to have a cabinet that is "inaccessible" for
> visitors and equipped with necessary installations to comply with
> fire-safety regulations (like a tank in an public aquarium). Thus the
> specimen would be visible for the visitors, the container as such however
> would not be part of the publicly accessible visitor space. This could help
> to avoid transferring the specimen into a different fluid, potentially
> causing secondary conservation problems.
>
> At the MfN in Berlin they used this alternative to make the fluid
> collections accessible and discoverable for visitors, while keeping the
> visitor and collection space simultaneously strictly separated. They also
> used this concept for a huge glass cabinet that shows a large diversity of
> collection objects on display, including fluid-preserved specimens.
>
> Maybe worth a thought ...
>
> With best wishes
> Dirk
>
>
> Am 04.02.2022 um 16:40 schrieb Bo Delling:
>
> Hi again,
>
>
>
> Thank you all for detailed and interesting information on this topic.
> Glycerol seems to be very interesting making nice specimens for exhibitions
> if you have fresh specimens with nice color. I will try it in the future
> for some small richly coloured fish. Is it correct that if you keep the
> concentration at 65% you don?t run in to problems with mould?
>
>
>
> Regarding our squid(s) they aren?t that nice and if we can?t continue with
> ethanol I think we transfer selected specimen to a formalin solution after
> all (Jon, thank you for the publication with relevant references). James, I
> will check if we have any pictures and size estimates. The length of the
> mantel is about 1 m for both specimens. Ironically, the one we had for
> display is the one in worst condition (in several pieces, semi rotten I
> would say) collected close to Scotland around 1990 or so. The other one was
> collected by a shrimp trawler from Sweden in 1960 and this specimen have
> commonly been referred to as ?the green squid? . Initially it was stored in
> a tank made of cupper. Nevertheless it?s in much better physical condition
> and consequently we will continue having a giant squid on display but not
> the same specimen.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Bo
>
>
>
>
>
> *Fr?n:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>
> <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *F?r *Bo Delling
> *Skickat:* den 3 februari 2022 12:15
> *Till:* 'nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu' <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *?mne:* [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
>
>
>
> Dear all,
>
> Up to recently we had a giant squid *Architeuthis *sp*. *in exhibition
> (?Liv in Vatten? = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an
> aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for
> thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch
> but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face
> problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to
> transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
>
> -Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding
> concentration and suitable buffer?
>
> My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that
> previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then
> in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol
> was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this
> old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of
> specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
>
> All the best,
>
> Bo
>
>
>
>
>
> Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
>
> Curator of Fishes and Herptiles
>
>
>
> Swedish Museum of Natural History
>
> Department of Zoology
>
> Frescativ?gen 44
>
> P.O. Box 50007
>
> SE-104 05 Stockholm
>
>
>
> Phone: +46 85195 4240
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing listNhcoll-l at mailman.yale.eduhttps://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
>
>
> --
>
>
> Dirk Neumann
>
> Tel: 089 / 8107-111
> Fax: 089 / 8107-300
> neumann(a)snsb.de
>
> Postanschrift:
>
> Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
> Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
> Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
> M?nchhausenstr. 21
> 81247 M?nchen
>
> Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
> http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/
>
> ---------
>
> Dirk Neumann
>
> Tel: +49-89-8107-111
> Fax: +49-89-8107-300
> neumann(a)snsb.de
>
> postal address:
>
> Bavarian Natural History Collections
> The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
> Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
> Muenchhausenstr. 21
> 81247 Munich (Germany)
>
> Visit our section at:
> http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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From HFarrington at cincymuseum.org  Mon Feb  7 18:50:30 2022
From: HFarrington at cincymuseum.org (Heather Farrington)
Date: Mon, 7 Feb 2022 23:50:30 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Job posting for Manager of Zoology DNA Lab and
 Collections (Cincinnati Museum Center)
Message-ID: <SJ0PR10MB58928A98A95672290FAEDF7CBC2C9@SJ0PR10MB5892.namprd10.prod.outlook.com>

The Cincinnati Museum Center in Cincinnati, OH is seeking a full-time Manager of Zoology DNA Lab and Collections.  The job description is below and also attached as a PDF.  The link for application submission can be found at https://www.cincymuseum.org/jobs/.


Job Title: Manager, Zoology DNA Lab and Collections

The statements below reflect the general details considered necessary to describe the major responsibilities of the identified position and are not to be construed as a detailed description of all the work requirements that may be inherent in the job. An asterisk (*) indicates that this is an essential function of the job as outlined in the American with Disabilities Act.
Responsibilities:
Cincinnati Museum Center (CMC) seeks a dynamic, self-motivated, detail-oriented Manager to lead scientific and public-facing work in the DNA Lab and Zoology collections.  The Manager will collect and analyze biological data in full view of the public, engage CMC guests in science communication, and help care for preserved and living collections at CMC.  We are looking for a person to work collaboratively with a variety of departments across our organization, including research and collections, exhibits, education, and philanthropy.  We are looking for someone who will embrace the diverse responsibilities of this position as opportunities to strengthen and support the museum?s mission.

DNA LAB RESPONSIBILITIES (50%):

CMC?s fully equipped DNA Lab makes science visible to guests visiting CMC?s Museum of Natural History & Science and creates engaging opportunities for onsite and digital public science communication.  The Manager will:
? Assist the Zoology Curator with maintenance and operation of CMC?s molecular genetics laboratory, including its DNA sequencers, PCR machines, frozen tissue collections, and associated equipment.
? Prepare/process research samples (from DNA extraction through sequencing)
? Analyze data and write reports
? Track inventory and order materials, reagents, and supplies
? Coordinate relevant service contracts.
? Lead and help develop genetics-based research projects in the lab
? Help train and supervise external partners, students, and interns
? Build research collaborations and partnerships with regional universities and other organizations, working to attract new Lab users and contributing to grant proposals for research funding.
? Regularly engage with the public, enhancing visitor experiences and interpreting Lab activities.

COLLECTIONS RESPONSIBILITIES (50%):

CMC?s Zoology Collections include both living and preserved collections in areas that include entomology, herpetology, ichthyology, malacology, mammalogy, and ornithology.

In living collections, the Manager will work with colleagues to:
? Help care for and manage live animals, including feeding and daily care
? Maintain enclosures
? Present animal-encounter programs.
In preserved Zoology collections, the Manager will:
? Digitize collections data
? Manage collections databases
? Prepare and conserve specimens
? Fulfill internal and external loan requests
? Prepare specimens for exhibit.
In addition, the Manager will assist with:
? Hosting visiting researchers in the collections
? Giving guided tours of collections and research areas
? Training and supervising volunteers and interns
? Contributing to grant proposals for collections funding.
Qualifications:
? Background in the biological sciences, experience working in or managing a laboratory with genetics research capability, and/or experience caring for live or preserved Zoology specimens
? Experience with museum exhibits and public engagement a plus
? Good communicators to diverse audiences
? Dynamic team member
? Passionate about working with and supporting animals
? Able to work with broad range of people
? Bachelor?s degree required; Master?s coursework or degree or equivalent work experience preferred

Working Conditions:
Must be able to lift up to 50 lbs. with assistance, climb stairs and ladders.  Weekends required.
Additional Information:
Full-time, salaried position, with range starting at $40,000 annually.  Valid driver?s license required.



Heather L. Farrington, Ph.D.
Cincinnati Museum Center
Curator, Zoology
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HFarrington at cincymuseum.org
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DNA Lab: (513) 527-6352
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From HawksC at si.edu  Tue Feb  8 05:58:11 2022
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 10:58:11 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol
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One thing to keep in mind is that glycerin is extremely hygroscopic. If you cannot obtain a excellent seal on the container, the glycerin will rapidly take up moisture from the ambient air, diluting the solution. It will also take up any contaminants in the air, no matter what their sources. It tends to become acidic as a consequence.

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of John E Simmons
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External Email - Exercise Caution
A few caveats about glycerin:

Before committing to putting a large squid in glycerin, you should test how it will behave due to the difference in density between alcohol (0.890 g/cm3) vs. glycerin (at 100%, it is 1.26 g/cm3, though of course diluted to 60% will be a bit less). This may be important due to the density of the specimen itself compared to the density of vertebrate specimens stored in glycerin.

As you work on the design for the new exhibit, don't forget that due to its density, the volume of glycerin will be a lot heavier than a similar volume of alcohol. In a large aquarium-type exhibition this weight difference may affect seams and seals.

Lastly, mold in the glycerin is not the only thing you have to worry about--don't forget bacterial infestations. Using some sort of biocide as a preventive measure may be necessary (traditionally thymol has been used, but as Simon Moore has pointed out, you can use less dangerous chemicals such as camphor as well). The other aspect of contamination is that if the seal on the container is faulty so that it admits mold spores or bacteria, in a humid environment the hygroscopic glycerin can absorb enough moisture to overflow the container. In a previous job I had to to take care of a collection of about 3,000 cleared-and-stained specimens stored in glycerin, and even though there was next to no loss due to evaporation, during a humid summer we could always count on a few containers overflowing (we had no mold or bacterial issues becaused thymol as a biocide).

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
and
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
and
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 12:47 PM Dirk Neumann <neumann at snsb.de<mailto:neumann at snsb.de>> wrote:
Hi Bo,

maybe a comment pointing into a slightly different direction (similar to what colleagues did in Berlin), as you mentioned you are planning for a major renovation of your exhibitions:

An alternative would be to have a cabinet that is "inaccessible" for visitors and equipped with necessary installations to comply with fire-safety regulations (like a tank in an public aquarium). Thus the specimen would be visible for the visitors, the container as such however would not be part of the publicly accessible visitor space. This could help to avoid transferring the specimen into a different fluid, potentially causing secondary conservation problems.

At the MfN in Berlin they used this alternative to make the fluid collections accessible and discoverable for visitors, while keeping the visitor and collection space simultaneously strictly separated. They also used this concept for a huge glass cabinet that shows a large diversity of collection objects on display, including fluid-preserved specimens.

Maybe worth a thought ...

With best wishes
Dirk


Am 04.02.2022 um 16:40 schrieb Bo Delling:
Hi again,

Thank you all for detailed and interesting information on this topic. Glycerol seems to be very interesting making nice specimens for exhibitions if you have fresh specimens with nice color. I will try it in the future for some small richly coloured fish. Is it correct that if you keep the concentration at 65% you don't run in to problems with mould?

Regarding our squid(s) they aren't that nice and if we can't continue with ethanol I think we transfer selected specimen to a formalin solution after all (Jon, thank you for the publication with relevant references). James, I will check if we have any pictures and size estimates. The length of the mantel is about 1 m for both specimens. Ironically, the one we had for display is the one in worst condition (in several pieces, semi rotten I would say) collected close to Scotland around 1990 or so. The other one was collected by a shrimp trawler from Sweden in 1960 and this specimen have commonly been referred to as "the green squid" . Initially it was stored in a tank made of cupper. Nevertheless it's in much better physical condition and consequently we will continue having a giant squid on display but not the same specimen.

Cheers,

Bo


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Dear all,
Up to recently we had a giant squid Architeuthis sp. in exhibition ("Liv in Vatten" = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
-Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding concentration and suitable buffer?
My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
All the best,
Bo


Bo Delling, PhD Ichthyology
Curator of Fishes and Herptiles

Swedish Museum of Natural History
Department of Zoology
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From cwthomp at umich.edu  Tue Feb  8 09:09:30 2022
From: cwthomp at umich.edu (Cody Thompson)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 09:09:30 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Fwd: Job: UMichigan.EvolutionZoonoticPathogens
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Colleagues:

I just wanted to share this job posting one last time!  The search
specifically targets a director of our museum biorepository, which we are
expanding into pathogens.  This initiative is part of a new partnership
between our museum collections and the Michigan Center for Infectious
Disease Threats
<https://biosciences.umich.edu/scientific-initiatives/mcidt/>.  The
application review process will begin February 15th.

Take care,
Cody

Cody W. Thompson, PhD
Mammal Collections Manager
& Assistant Research Scientist
University of Michigan
Museum of Zoology
3600 Varsity Drive
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
Office: (734) 615-2810
Fax: (734) 763-4080
Email: cwthomp at umich.edu
Website: codythompson.org

In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the UMMZ/Herbarium has limited
personnel available working onsite. No loan returns should be shipped
without prior notification, and collection visits, loan requests, gifts,
exchanges, etc. should be coordinated with the appropriate curatorial
staff. Please expect delayed responses. We apologize for any inconvenience
this may cause.


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Subject: Fwd: Job: UMichigan.EvolutionZoonoticPathogens
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Colleagues:

Please see the announcement below for a new job posting at the University
of Michigan.  The job announcement is also found in the attached PDF for
easy sharing with your friends and colleagues.

Sincerely,
Cody

Cody W. Thompson, PhD
Mammal Collections Manager
& Assistant Research Scientist
University of Michigan
Museum of Zoology
3600 Varsity Drive
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
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Begin forwarded message:

*From:* evoldir at web.rhpcs.mcmaster.ca
*Date:* January 18, 2022 at 3:26:35 AM EST
*To:* codythompson51 at yahoo.com
*Subject:* *Job: UMichigan.EvolutionZoonoticPathogens*
*Reply-To:* tyjames at umich.edu

?
Faculty Position in Ecology and Evolution of Zoonotic Pathogens
Director of Pathogen Biorepository

The Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology (EEB) and the Michigan
Center for Infectious Disease Threats (MCIDT) invite applications for a
full-time tenured or tenure-track position at the intersection of ecology,
evolution, and epidemiology of zoonotic pathogens.  The anticipated start
date will be August 29, 2022.  The successful applicant will maintain
a thriving research program and serve as the Director of a new Pathogen
Biorepository (M-PABI). M-PABI is part of the broader campus-wide MCIDT
initiative aimed at increasing capacity for, and coordination of studies
of, emerging infectious diseases at the University of Michigan. Successful
candidates will have research programs that engage a One Health approach
to understanding and predicting emergent zoonotic threats and address
disease ecology and evolution, relationships between environmental
health, host biodiversity and epidemiology, host-pathogen interactions,
and related areas. We specifically seek individuals with strengths
in developing research coordination networks, acquiring and utilizing
collections-based pathogen surveillance data, and quantitative methods
for integrating such data with models for monitoring and predicting
zoonotic emergence. Successful applicants will present a clear vision
for the role of the new biorepository in studying emerging infectious
diseases. The successful candidate, as a member of the EEB Museums,
will have opportunities for curation and research using world-class
biodiversity collections in a modern facility.

The University of Michigan is located in Ann Arbor, a vibrant community
with excellent schools and amenities, and proximity to both natural
areas and the city of Detroit.

All application materials should be submitted online through
webapps.lsa.umich.edu/Apply/EEB.  Materials should include  a
cover letter, CV, a concise (2-4 page) statement describing current
and future research plans, a statement of teaching philosophy and
experience, a statement of commitment and contributions to diversity,
equity and inclusion in academia, and contact information for three
references. Application review will begin February 15, 2022 and continue
until the position is filled or until April 15, 2022. Questions about
this search should be directed to Linda Garcia (garciall at umich.edu),
Executive Secretary.

EEB is committed to fostering diversity in its faculty, including with
respect to race, ethnicity, gender, and disability status. Women and
members of other groups underrepresented in science are particularly
encouraged to apply. The university supports the needs of dual career
couples. The University of Michigan is an equal opportunity/affirmative
action employer.  Offers for this appointment are contingent on successful
completion of a background screening.

COVID-19 vaccinations are now required for all University of Michigan
students, faculty and staff across all three campuses, including
Michigan Medicine, no later than one week before their first day of
employment. This includes those working or learning remotely.  More
information on this policy is available on the Campus Blueprint website.


Timothy James <tyjames at umich.edu>
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From rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu  Tue Feb  8 09:44:06 2022
From: rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu (Rob Robins)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 14:44:06 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection facilities
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Hi Folks,
Many modern fluid preserved collection facilities have trenches dug in the floors to contain or route a high volume spill of alcohol to a single location from where the fluid can be removed.

These trenches are typically covered with metal grates.

Said grates, no matter their specific attributes, i.e., the size and arrangement of the spaces in the grate?typically rectangular or square?induce vibration to passing specimen cart wheels. Those vibrations end up being transferred to the specimens. Sometimes rather violently.

Question for the group: What if anything is being done to reduce those vibrations in collections that have trenches?

There appears no perfect solution; e.g., temporary ?bridges? to smooth the passing of carts can be heavy, unwieldly, and inconvenient and thus likely not to gain full compliance; even the smallest permissible spaces in the grates induce substantial vibration; larger spaces can capture wheels of some carts threatening tip over, mores so the typically smaller wheels of mobile ladders, etc.

Yes, for small numbers of materials coming to and from the collection, typical use scenarios, these can be carried by most persons. But large amounts must periodically be moved and these require carts or something like carts. To say nothing of the initial transfer of an entire collection to a new facility with these trenches.

I suppose I am looking for the ?least bad? way to mitigate the effects of these grates. Full suspension carts?!? ?

Best wishes,

Rob

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>

Search the Collection:
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From ges at umich.edu  Tue Feb  8 10:00:17 2022
From: ges at umich.edu (Gregory Schneider)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 10:00:17 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
 facilities
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I recommend rolling VERY SLOWLY over the trenches. As you say, in some
areas, they cannot be avoided.
Greg Schneider
Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
Museum of Zoology
Research Museums Center
3600 Varsity Drive
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108

734 647 1927

ges at umich.edu



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On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 9:44 AM Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> Many modern fluid preserved collection facilities have trenches dug in the
> floors to contain or route a high volume spill of alcohol to a single
> location from where the fluid can be removed.
>
>
> These trenches are typically covered with metal grates.
>
>
> Said grates, no matter their specific attributes, i.e., the size and
> arrangement of the spaces in the grate?typically rectangular or
> square?induce vibration to passing specimen cart wheels. Those vibrations
> end up being transferred to the specimens. Sometimes rather violently.
>
>
>
> *Question for the group*: What if anything is being done to reduce those
> vibrations in collections that have trenches?
>
>
>
> There appears no perfect solution; e.g., temporary ?bridges? to smooth the
> passing of carts can be heavy, unwieldly, and inconvenient and thus likely
> not to gain full compliance; even the smallest permissible spaces in the
> grates induce substantial vibration; larger spaces can capture wheels of
> some carts threatening tip over, mores so the typically smaller wheels of
> mobile ladders, etc.
>
>
>
> Yes, for small numbers of materials coming to and from the collection,
> typical use scenarios, these can be carried by most persons. But large
> amounts must periodically be moved and these require carts or something
> like carts. To say nothing of the initial transfer of an entire collection
> to a new facility with these trenches.
>
>
>
> I suppose I am looking for the ?least bad? way to mitigate the effects of
> these grates. Full suspension carts?!? ?
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> Robert H. Robins
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Division of Ichthyology
>
> [image: FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
>
> Florida Museum
>
> 1659 Museum Rd.
>
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>
> Office: (352) 273-1957
>
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu
>
>
>
> Search the Collection:
>
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>
>
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
>
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From simmons.johne at gmail.com  Tue Feb  8 10:56:40 2022
From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 10:56:40 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
 facilities
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I think perhaps it is best to step back and consider what the trenches are
supposed to do, which is drain away fluid in the event of a spill. For
this, you don't need a very wide mesh in the grate. For example, the floor
drain grates in all of the doorways of the fluid facility at KU are not a
mesh, but a solid plate with slots in it so that a car with reasonable
sized wheels rolls smoothly over it. If you would like to see what the
grates look like, I wi

If you cannot get the covers changed, then perhaps you should consider
changing the wheeled carts. Pneumatic wheels provide a much smoother ride.
The wheels on most lab carts are hard and small, which as Rob pointed out
create a lot of vibration that is transferred up to the specimens on the
cart.

The solution of just carrying a few containers rather than using a bumpy
cart goes against the whole concept of moving containers safely in and out
of the collection storage area because you are far more likely to drop a
container carrying it than if it is on a smoothly moving cart. Better to
replace the cart with one with large diameter, pneumatic wheels (or at
least, soft wheels).

In my opinion, the trenches are a wrongheaded solution to the problem in
the first place. First off, the trenches assume there will be a massive
spill in the collection area. But is that likely? When we were planning the
KU facility, we worked through many of these issues with our local fire
marshal and the state fire marshal. Their worst-case scenario was that all
the jars in the facility would break at the same time and there would be a
flood of alcohol that needed to be drained away by trenches into a
containment pool beneath the building. In talking through this, they were
unable to come up with a situation in which there would be a massive spill
as we agreed to earthquake bars on the shelves. The worst-case scenario
then became tipping over a fully loaded cart, which we pointed out (1) was
highly unlikely because we proposed using carts with pneumatic wheels that
were much harder to tip; (2) that what would be spilling would be 70% ETOH,
not 96%, and that (3) the broken glass and specimens would likely get into
the trenches and clog the drains. In all of the fluid storage rooms I have
visited that have floor trenches there has been an accumulation of dust,
bits of paper, and other stuff in the trenches that has fallen through the
grates and is very difficult to remove, all of which would probably clog
the drains were they ever used.

We also equipped each floor of the facility and the lab with a spill kit,
that contained absorbent pads and booms, plastic garbage back for disposal,
gloves, safety googles, Tyvek coveralls, and shoe covers, all fit into a
five-gallon bucket so that anything from alcohol to formaldehyde spills
could be contained, the specimens rescued and the fluid absorbed, and then
the glass swept up once the floor was dry.

The original solution that was proposed would result in an accumulation of
alcohol in a closed space (the containment pool), so it was pointed out
that alcohol fumes dissipate quickly and thus it was better to deal with
spills in the collection rooms, which were well ventilated. The floor
drains were installed in the facility, but their purpose is to prevent
water from the sprinkler system from flooding into the main building,
rather than to remove vast amounts of alcohol. After discussing how quickly
the amounts of alcohol that could be spilled at once would become diluted
when going down the floor drains, the concept of the containment pool was
also dropped. I realize that the amount of alcohol considered acceptable
going down the drain will vary from one place to another, but the first
step is get a realistic estimate of how much could be spilled at once. Even
a cart tipping over is not all that much when you consider actual alcohol
volume per container (minus specimen volume), the rapid dissipation of
vapors and dilution of the alcohol when rinsed down the drain.

The least expensive solution is probably to change to more suitable carts
with better wheels for moving specimens, but ideally the grates should be
replaced with a surface that allows the carts to roll smoothly over them.

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 9:44 AM Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:

> Hi Folks,
> Many modern fluid preserved collection facilities have trenches dug in the
> floors to contain or route a high volume spill of alcohol to a single
> location from where the fluid can be removed.
>
>
> These trenches are typically covered with metal grates.
>
>
> Said grates, no matter their specific attributes, i.e., the size and
> arrangement of the spaces in the grate?typically rectangular or
> square?induce vibration to passing specimen cart wheels. Those vibrations
> end up being transferred to the specimens. Sometimes rather violently.
>
>
>
> *Question for the group*: What if anything is being done to reduce those
> vibrations in collections that have trenches?
>
>
>
> There appears no perfect solution; e.g., temporary ?bridges? to smooth the
> passing of carts can be heavy, unwieldly, and inconvenient and thus likely
> not to gain full compliance; even the smallest permissible spaces in the
> grates induce substantial vibration; larger spaces can capture wheels of
> some carts threatening tip over, mores so the typically smaller wheels of
> mobile ladders, etc.
>
>
>
> Yes, for small numbers of materials coming to and from the collection,
> typical use scenarios, these can be carried by most persons. But large
> amounts must periodically be moved and these require carts or something
> like carts. To say nothing of the initial transfer of an entire collection
> to a new facility with these trenches.
>
>
>
> I suppose I am looking for the ?least bad? way to mitigate the effects of
> these grates. Full suspension carts?!? ?
>
>
> Best wishes,
>
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> Robert H. Robins
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Division of Ichthyology
>
> [image: FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
>
> Florida Museum
>
> 1659 Museum Rd.
>
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
>
> Office: (352) 273-1957
>
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu
>
>
>
> Search the Collection:
>
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>
>
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
>
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Tue Feb  8 12:47:07 2022
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 17:47:07 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
 facilities
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I agree with John that carts with larger-diameter wheels are a good idea. You can often retro-fit existing carts with bigger wheels. They don?t need to be pneumatic as long as they have rubber tires; the diameter is the main thing. However, bear in mind that every extra inch of wheel diameter (and soft tires) makes the cart easier to tip, especially if it is loaded with heavy jars on the top. It?s best either to use a lower cart or to load things on the bottom shelf.
I think the ideal wet collection wagon is ? yes ? the Radio Flyer! It has a tall rim to stop bottles tipping, is watertight if anything leaks, has nice big wheels and a long steering handle and is reasonably priced.

https://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2017/jul/22/100-years-of-the-radio-flyer/

Paul Callomon
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates
________________________________
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From abentley at ku.edu  Tue Feb  8 13:06:32 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 18:06:32 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
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We have been using these in our wet collections for some time and they are great for transporting materials - https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Utility-Cart-with-Lipped-Metal-49Y556.  They have pneumatic wheels (pressure can be adjusted for various conditions) and a full lip around both non-slip, rubber lined shelves to prevent slipping.  They are relatively heavy and so very stable even on bumpy surfaces and roll easily without rolling on their own when unattended.  The space between shelves accommodates our largest jars and containers.

Andy

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Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
USA

Tel: (785) 864-3863
Fax: (785) 864-5335
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/>

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of "Callomon,Paul" <prc44 at drexel.edu>
Date: Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 11:48 AM
To: John Simmons <simmons.johne at gmail.com>, Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
Cc: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection facilities

I agree with John that carts with larger-diameter wheels are a good idea. You can often retro-fit existing carts with bigger wheels. They don?t need to be pneumatic as long as they have rubber tires; the diameter is the main thing. However, bear in mind that every extra inch of wheel diameter (and soft tires) makes the cart easier to tip, especially if it is loaded with heavy jars on the top. It?s best either to use a lower cart or to load things on the bottom shelf.
I think the ideal wet collection wagon is ? yes ? the Radio Flyer! It has a tall rim to stop bottles tipping, is watertight if anything leaks, has nice big wheels and a long steering handle and is reasonably priced.

https://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2017/jul/22/100-years-of-the-radio-flyer/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spokesman.com%2Fgalleries%2F2017%2Fjul%2F22%2F100-years-of-the-radio-flyer%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C402828d515b64fd4f6f308d9eb2b0b43%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637799393307738559%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=hBmcpUdkHtSChR58JyeFphZzuSKy9Ow6TS85hZuNUGA%3D&reserved=0>

Paul Callomon
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________________________________
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From ges at umich.edu  Tue Feb  8 13:16:48 2022
From: ges at umich.edu (Gregory Schneider)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 13:16:48 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
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That looks like the solution!
Greg Schneider
Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
Museum of Zoology
Research Museums Center
3600 Varsity Drive
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108

734 647 1927

ges at umich.edu



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www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html


On Tue, Feb 8, 2022 at 1:06 PM Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
wrote:

> We have been using these in our wet collections for some time and they are
> great for transporting materials -
> https://www.grainger.com/product/GRAINGER-APPROVED-Utility-Cart-with-Lipped-Metal-49Y556.
> They have pneumatic wheels (pressure can be adjusted for various
> conditions) and a full lip around both non-slip, rubber lined shelves to
> prevent slipping.  They are relatively heavy and so very stable even on
> bumpy surfaces and roll easily without rolling on their own when
> unattended.  The space between shelves accommodates our largest jars and
> containers.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>
>
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>
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>
> Andy Bentley
>
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
>
> University of Kansas
>
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
>
> USA
>
>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
>
>
>
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>
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> *From: *Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of
> "Callomon,Paul" <prc44 at drexel.edu>
> *Date: *Tuesday, February 8, 2022 at 11:48 AM
> *To: *John Simmons <simmons.johne at gmail.com>, Rob Robins <
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
> *Cc: *"nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject: *Re: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
> facilities
>
>
>
> I agree with John that carts with larger-diameter wheels are a good idea.
> You can often retro-fit existing carts with bigger wheels. They don?t need
> to be pneumatic as long as they have rubber tires; the diameter is the main
> thing. However, bear in mind that every extra inch of wheel diameter (and
> soft tires) makes the cart easier to tip, especially if it is loaded with
> heavy jars on the top. It?s best either to use a lower cart or to load
> things on the bottom shelf.
>
> I think the ideal wet collection wagon is ? yes ? the Radio Flyer! It has
> a tall rim to stop bottles tipping, is watertight if anything leaks, has
> nice big wheels and a long steering handle and is reasonably priced.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2017/jul/22/100-years-of-the-radio-flyer/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.spokesman.com%2Fgalleries%2F2017%2Fjul%2F22%2F100-years-of-the-radio-flyer%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C402828d515b64fd4f6f308d9eb2b0b43%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637799393307738559%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000&sdata=hBmcpUdkHtSChR58JyeFphZzuSKy9Ow6TS85hZuNUGA%3D&reserved=0>
>
>
>
> Paul Callomon
>
> Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates
> ------------------------------
>
> *Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University*
>
> 1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA
> *prc44 at drexel.edu <prc44 at drexel.edu> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170*
>
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From skhuber at vims.edu  Tue Feb  8 14:54:53 2022
From: skhuber at vims.edu (Sarah K. Huber)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 19:54:53 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] ASIH Spiritus Award
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Award Announcement from the American Society of Ichthyologists and Herpetologists

Nominations are being solicited for the Spiritus Award. The Spiritus Award is presented annually by the ASIH to recognize excellence in service and support of natural history collections of fishes, amphibians, and reptiles. In 2022, it will be presented to an ichthyologist.

Nominations may be made by any ichthyologist or herpetologist and should be submitted by 1 March 2022 for the nominee to be eligible for the 2022 award. Nominations will be effective for three award cycles over a five-year period (due to alternation between disciplines). Committee members are not eligible for nomination while serving on the committee and for one year following.

Nominations must include the name, current address, and recent CV of the nominee, and a letter of support expressing the nominee's qualifications (nominator is encouraged to solicit and submit additional letters of support). A complete nomination package greatly helps the committee in their evaluation of the nominees.

To qualify, a nominee must not have been a previous recipient of the Spiritus Award, must be an active member of ASIH, and must have an established record of exceptional management, curation, and/or administration of natural history collection(s) of fishes, amphibians, and/or reptiles. Accomplishments worthy of consideration should include one or more of the following:
An active career in collection management and stewardship;
Development of best practices and resources such as institutional and online databases that have significantly advanced the management, curation, and dissemination of data associated with natural history collections;
Restoration and/or significant growth of existing collections;
Successful advocacy for natural history collections in academia, public outreach, conservation, professional service, policy-making, and/or funding.

Email nominations to Sarah K. Huber, Chair (skhuber at vims.edu<mailto:skhuber at vims.edu>).


Sarah K. Huber, Ph.D. (she/her)
Curatorial Associate, VIMS Nunnally Ichthyology Collection
Office 804.684.7104 | Collection 804.684.7285
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From neumann at snsb.de  Tue Feb  8 15:55:58 2022
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Tue, 8 Feb 2022 21:55:58 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Grate covered trenches in alcohol collection
 facilities
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Hi Rob and all,

we don't have such trenches, but a slightly uneven floor and uneven door 
sills. Be careful with pneumatic (larger) rubber tires; as John pointed 
out fully loaded, heavy carts can deform the tires, especially if the 
payload remains on the cart, e.g. over night, the tires might be 
deformed, even if inflated to the max. The same applies to some full 
rubber wheels. We replaced wheels again and equipped our cart with 
larger fixed rollers for heavy loads. The steel centre and the rather 
sturdy and slim rubber hoop surely to not support the smooth wheeling, 
but these wheels are a fair compromise.

In the Brussels collection they have deep trenched tiles on the floors 
in the collection space, carts in the old carts in the collection 
(surely also form the 1930ies) have very large steel wheels with rubber 
hoops. They run rather smoothly, which is because of the large wheels.

Hope this helps
Dirk



Am 08.02.2022 um 18:47 schrieb Callomon,Paul:
>
> I agree with John that carts with larger-diameter wheels are a good 
> idea. You can often retro-fit existing carts with bigger wheels. They 
> don?t need to be pneumatic as long as they have rubber tires; the 
> diameter is the main thing. However, bear in mind that every extra 
> inch of wheel diameter (and soft tires) makes the cart easier to tip, 
> especially if it is loaded with heavy jars on the top. It?s best 
> either to use a lower cart or to load things on the bottom shelf.
>
> I think the ideal wet collection wagon is ? yes ? the Radio Flyer! It 
> has a tall rim to stop bottles tipping, is watertight if anything 
> leaks, has nice big wheels and a long steering handle and is 
> reasonably priced.
>
> https://www.spokesman.com/galleries/2017/jul/22/100-years-of-the-radio-flyer/
>
> Paul Callomon
>
> Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates//
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University***
>
> 1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA
> /prc44 at drexel.edu <mailto:prc44 at drexel.edu> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 
> 215-299-1170/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. Seehttp://www.spnhc.org  for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.


-- 


Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

Postanschrift:

Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
M?nchhausenstr. 21
81247 M?nchen

Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/

---------

Dirk Neumann

Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

postal address:

Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
Muenchhausenstr. 21
81247 Munich (Germany)

Visit our section at:
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From HawksC at si.edu  Wed Feb  9 10:23:00 2022
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 15:23:00 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Contracting Opportunity: Smithsonian National Museum
 of Natural History, Global Genome Biodiversity Network Secretariat Office
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From: Barker, Katharine B. <BarkerK at si.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, February 9, 2022 10:20 AM
To: Barker, Katharine B. <BarkerK at si.edu>
Subject: Contracting Opportunity: Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History, Global Genome Biodiversity Network Secretariat Office

Hello Colleagues,

The Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History is seeking an independent contractor to provide administrative and project management support to the Global Genome Biodiversity Network<https://www.ggbn.org/ggbn_portal/> General Secretariat Office for all GGBN activities.  The contract period is for 12 months with options to extend.


The Global Genome Biodiversity Network is an international network of 99 institutions from 35 countries that share an interest in long-term preservation of genomic samples representing the diversity of non-human life on Earth. GGBN provides a platform for biodiversity biobanks from across the world to:
*         Collaborate to ensure consistent quality standards for DNA and tissue collections,
*         Improve best practices for the preservation and use of such collections and
*         Harmonize exchange and use of material in accordance with national and international legislation and conventions.

The Global Genome Biodiversity Network provides its members with the primary benefit of making their DNA and tissue collections discoverable for research through a networked community of biodiversity biobanks. In doing so, GGBN provides trusted and transparent access to genomic samples for all, through an access and benefit sharing framework.

Qualified individuals are invited to review the attached Request for Quotes (RFQ) and Statement of Work (SOW) for specifics. Details on what to include in the quote package and how to submit it are available in the RFQ.

Responses are due Monday, February 28th, 8am EST. Applicants should register as a federal contractor in the System for Award Management (SAM)<https://sam.gov/> concurrently to responding to the RFQ.

Please forward this announcement to any qualified candidates who might be interested. Feel free to contact me if there are any questions.

Thank you,

Katie Barker


Katharine B. Barker

ADCS Senior Science Program Administrator (Detail)

Program Manager, Global Genome Initiative and Global Genome Biodiversity Network

w 202.633.2460  c 202.286.1390  e barkerk at si.edu<mailto:barkerk at si.edu>




SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION

NATIONAL MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY

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From BarkerK at si.edu  Wed Feb  9 10:20:05 2022
From: BarkerK at si.edu (Barker, Katharine B.)
Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2022 15:20:05 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Contracting Opportunity: Smithsonian National Museum of
 Natural History, Global Genome Biodiversity Network Secretariat Office
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Hello Colleagues,

The Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History is seeking an independent contractor to provide administrative and project management support to the Global Genome Biodiversity Network<https://www.ggbn.org/ggbn_portal/> General Secretariat Office for all GGBN activities.  The contract period is for 12 months with options to extend.


The Global Genome Biodiversity Network is an international network of 99 institutions from 35 countries that share an interest in long-term preservation of genomic samples representing the diversity of non-human life on Earth. GGBN provides a platform for biodiversity biobanks from across the world to:

  *   Collaborate to ensure consistent quality standards for DNA and tissue collections,
  *   Improve best practices for the preservation and use of such collections and
  *   Harmonize exchange and use of material in accordance with national and international legislation and conventions.

The Global Genome Biodiversity Network provides its members with the primary benefit of making their DNA and tissue collections discoverable for research through a networked community of biodiversity biobanks. In doing so, GGBN provides trusted and transparent access to genomic samples for all, through an access and benefit sharing framework.

Qualified individuals are invited to review the attached Request for Quotes (RFQ) and Statement of Work (SOW) for specifics. Details on what to include in the quote package and how to submit it are available in the RFQ.

Responses are due Monday, February 28th, 8am EST. Applicants should register as a federal contractor in the System for Award Management (SAM)<https://sam.gov/> concurrently to responding to the RFQ.

Please forward this announcement to any qualified candidates who might be interested. Feel free to contact me if there are any questions.

Thank you,

Katie Barker


Katharine B. Barker

ADCS Senior Science Program Administrator (Detail)

Program Manager, Global Genome Initiative and Global Genome Biodiversity Network

w 202.633.2460  c 202.286.1390  e barkerk at si.edu



SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTION

NATIONAL MUSEUM OF NATURAL HISTORY

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From bethanypalumbo at gmail.com  Thu Feb 10 08:52:07 2022
From: bethanypalumbo at gmail.com (Bethany Palumbo)
Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2022 14:52:07 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Guidance for putting hazardous minerals on display
Message-ID: <CAPVvR4QEHeWeERkttKGRh0crCbNKaHgoNBbFubHsD+1UP+zx3g@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,

We are currently designing a mineral heavy exhibition for the new Natural
History Museum of Denmark and need some advice regarding the display of
potentially hazardous minerals.

I was wondering if anyone in our community has written or knows of any
guidelines on this particular issue? If anyone can recommend case makers
who have this specific knowledge, that would also be so helpful.

Your advice and guidance as always is greatly appreciated,

With many thanks,
B

p.s. We will also be looking for hire 2 Natural History Conservators to
start in June for a 2 year contract- more info to follow soon!

-- 
Bethany Palumbo, ACR
Head of Conservation Unit

Statens Naturhistoriske Museum
Universitetsparken 15, 2100 K?benhavn



Twitter | @bethany_bug
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From neumann at snsb.de  Sat Feb 12 12:46:24 2022
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2022 18:46:24 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Job position technical staff fish collection Munich
Message-ID: <f542b09a-1d48-2efe-76a8-da16683d9e92@snsb.de>

Preparator - Ichthyology (f/m/d) State Zoological Collection Munich
(link to job offer in German language) 
<https://snsb.de/praeparatorin-ichthyologie/>

The State Natural History Collections of Bavaria (SNSB) is a 
non-university research and educational institution with six state 
natural history collections in the fields of zoology, botany, geology 
and paleontology, mineralogy, anthropology and paleoanatomy, as well as 
eight foam museums in Munich, Bamberg, Bayreuth, Eichst?tt and 
N?rdlingen and the Botanical Garden Munich, with a total of 
approximately 280 employees.

At the Munich State Zoological Collection, we are looking to recruit a

Preparator (Zoology, Ichthyology) (f/m/d)
full time, unlimited

We are looking for an excellent staff member for the section 
ichthyology, who can complement and relieve the section leader. The fish 
collection of the ZSM comprises about 40,000 specimens (lots), mostly 
alcohol preparations, plus tissue and DNA samples.

Your responsibilities:

  *  ??? Coordinating, maintaining and documenting the collection,
    including entering, issuing and loaning tissue specimens.
  *  ??? Processing of new arrivals: Preservation and transfer into the
    collection
  *  ??? Supervision of the digital X-ray machine and its users
  *  ??? Introduction of users (students, interns, scientific guests) to
    the collection
  *  ??? Digitization: photography, x-ray, documentation and database
    connection
  *  ??? Assisting and conducting research projects in the ichthyology
    section.


Required Qualification:

  *  ??? Completed training as a technical preparation assistant or
    comparable training or work experience.
  *  ??? Basic knowledge in scientific collection work and zoological
    systematics
  *  ??? Confident handling of Excel and Access applications
  *  ??? Basic knowledge of creating, documenting and editing image
    documents
  *  ??? Solid knowledge of English


Desirable Competencies:

  *  ??? A structured, meticulous, independent and service-oriented
    approach to work.
  *  ??? Good communication skills, ability to work in a team,
    organizational talent
  *  ??? Sense of responsibility for the value of unique collection material
  *  ??? Willingness to learn the Diversity Workbench database software
  *  ??? Expertise in the field of ichthyology (e.g., fisheries
    collection methods or aquatics)


We offer:

  *  ??? an interesting and versatile research and support task with
    room to maneuver and future perspectives
  *  ??? a versatile job in the public service in the center of Munich,
    as well as all advantages of an employment in the service of the
    Free State of Bavaria
  *  ??? flexible working hours
  *  ??? remuneration according to the collective agreement of the
    federal states (TV-L) pay group 8


We look forward to receiving your informative and complete application 
documents (digital) with a letter of motivation, curriculum vitae, list 
of publications (maximum five selected publications) and references by 
31.03.2022 at the latest at personal at snsb.de. For questions regarding 
the content, please contact Dr. Ulrich Schliewen schliewen at snsb.de. For 
questions regarding the procedure or application process, please contact 
Ms. Susann Windisch personal at snsb.de.

Severely disabled applicants will be given preference if their 
suitability is otherwise essentially equal. In order to achieve equality 
between women and men, there is a particular interest in applications 
from women.

The position is part-time, provided that job sharing ensures that the 
task can be performed on a full-time basis.

Please note that application documents will be destroyed and not 
returned after the procedure has been completed. Travel expenses for the 
journey to a possible job interview will not be covered.


Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)

******************************************************************


  Pr?parator/in ? Ichthyologie (w/m/d) Zoologische Staatssammlung
  M?nchen <https://snsb.de/praeparatorin-ichthyologie/>

Die Staatlichen Naturwissenschaftlichen Sammlungen Bayerns (SNSB) sind 
eine au?eruniversit?re Forschungs- und Bildungsinstitution mit sechs 
naturkundlichen Staatssammlungen der Fachrichtungen Zoologie, Botanik, 
Geologie und Pal?ontologie, Mineralogie, Anthropologie und 
Pal?oanatomie, sowie acht Schaumuseen in M?nchen, Bamberg, Bayreuth, 
Eichst?tt und N?rdlingen und dem Botanischen Garten M?nchen, mit 
insgesamt ca. 280 Mitarbeitenden.

Im Bereich der Zoologischen Staatssammlung M?nchen suchen wir zum 1. 
Juni 2022 eine/einen

*Pr?parator/in (Zoologie, Ichthyologie) (w/m/d)
in Vollzeit, unbefristet*

Wir suchen eine/n exzellente/n Mitarbeiter/in f?r die Sektion 
?Ichthyologie?, der/die den Sektionsleiter erg?nzt und entlasten kann. 
Die Fischsammlung der ZSM umfasst ca. 40.000 Proben (Lots), meist 
Alkoholpr?parate, hinzu kommen Gewebe- und DNA-Proben.

*Ihr Aufgabengebiet:*

  * Koordination, Pflege und Dokumentation der Sammlung inklusive
    Einpflege, Ausgabe und Ausleihe von Gewebeproben
  * Bearbeitung von Neueing?ngen: Konservierung und ?berf?hrung in den
    Sammlungsbestand
  * Betreuung des digitalen R?ntgenger?tes und dessen Nutzer*Innen
  * Einweisung von Nutzer*Innen (Studierende, Praktikant*Innen,
    wissenschaftliche G?ste) in die Sammlung
  * Digitalisierung: Fotografie, R?ntgen, Dokumentation und
    Datenbankanbindung
  * Mithilfe und Durchf?hrung von Forschungsprojekten in der Sektion
    Ichthyologie

*Vorausgesetzte Qualifikation:*

  * Abgeschlossene Ausbildung zur pr?parationstechnischen Assistent*in
    oder vergleichbare Ausbildung bzw. Berufserfahrung
  * Grundkenntnisse in wissenschaftlicher Sammlungsarbeit und
    zoologischer Systematik
  * Sicherer Umgang mit Excel- und Access-Anwendungen
  * Grundkenntnisse in der Erstellung, Dokumentation und Bearbeitung von
    Bilddokumenten
  * Solide Englischkenntnisse

*W?nschenswerte Kompetenzen:*

  * Eine strukturierte, sorgf?ltige, eigenst?ndige und
    service-orientierte Arbeitsweise
  * Gute Kommunikationsf?higkeit, Teamf?higkeit, Organisationstalent
  * Verantwortungsbewusstsein f?r den Wert von einzigartigem
    Sammlungsmaterial
  * Bereitschaft zum Einlernen in die Datenbank-Software ?Diversity
    Workbench?
  * Fachwissen im Bereich der Ichthyologie (z.B. fischereiliche
    Erfassungsmethoden oder Aquaristik)

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Postanschrift:

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---------

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Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
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postal address:

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From Genevieve.Anderegg at colorado.edu  Mon Feb 14 11:55:37 2022
From: Genevieve.Anderegg at colorado.edu (Genevieve Anderegg)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 09:55:37 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?
Message-ID: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>

Happy Monday everyone,
I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my
masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for
visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online
"collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual visitor can
see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage space and
get specimen information. The example that inspired me is from UAMs Virtual
Herbarium Tour (https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081), where
you can click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet, and
click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with information on that
specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel for the
actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific specimens
without just linking to a database portal that is not as accessible to the
public.

Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections
visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a
product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as a
snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and accessed. Of
course this kind of virtual resource would not be feasible for an entire
collection, but I think it's very intriguing and useful for visualizing a
specific portion of a collection.
Thank you!

Genevieve Anderegg
-- 
University of Colorado Boulder
Museum and Field Studies MS
CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab
she/her/hers
612-876-8138
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From ges at umich.edu  Mon Feb 14 12:58:45 2022
From: ges at umich.edu (Gregory Schneider)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 12:58:45 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?
In-Reply-To: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAM2LXeV87LjgU0YbWFDYpzdDdPVDULZVrUWVye7oGGMyJL3OHw@mail.gmail.com>

I suggest checking out some of our Digital Library's collections such as
our predator / prey collection, Primary Types,  and our radiograph
collection.  They can be accessed via our wepage:

https://lsa.umich.edu/ummz/herps/collections.html

[image: image.png]


Greg Schneider
Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
Museum of Zoology
Research Museums Center
3600 Varsity Drive
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108

734 647 1927

ges at umich.edu



[image: Description: Description: logocolor]

www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html


On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 11:56 AM Genevieve Anderegg <
Genevieve.Anderegg at colorado.edu> wrote:

> Happy Monday everyone,
> I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my
> masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for
> visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online
> "collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual visitor can
> see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage space and
> get specimen information. The example that inspired me is from UAMs Virtual
> Herbarium Tour (https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081),
> where you can click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet,
> and click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with information on
> that specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel for the
> actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific specimens
> without just linking to a database portal that is not as accessible to the
> public.
>
> Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections
> visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a
> product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as a
> snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and accessed. Of
> course this kind of virtual resource would not be feasible for an entire
> collection, but I think it's very intriguing and useful for visualizing a
> specific portion of a collection.
> Thank you!
>
> Genevieve Anderegg
> --
> University of Colorado Boulder
> Museum and Field Studies MS
> CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab
> she/her/hers
> 612-876-8138
>
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> Nhcoll-l mailing list
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> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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From neumann at snsb.de  Mon Feb 14 13:50:35 2022
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 19:50:35 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?
In-Reply-To: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5b206c66-9c32-e4f9-6881-3fa9526d0a50@snsb.de>

Hi Genevieve,

in the grand exhibition hall in the National Museum in Edinburgh they 
have (had?) an very interesting concept to display the specimens: 
visitors need to match voices with corresponding animals. It was really 
interesting to see how many people got trapped (=stayed) and engaged.

Might be worth checking if such a concept can be transferred into the 
virtual space (should be doable); the specimen information would then be 
a plus, while the trigger to attract the curiosity of the visitors is 
entirely different from how we usually attract our audience.

There are some similarities with the board game Wingspan: you can learn 
A LOT about North American bird life, but this information sneaks into 
the game from behind.

Hope this helps
Dirk


Am 14.02.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Genevieve Anderegg:
> Happy Monday everyone,
> I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my 
> masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for 
> visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online 
> "collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual?visitor 
> can see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage 
> space and get specimen information. The example that inspired me is 
> from UAMs Virtual Herbarium Tour 
> (https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081), where you?can 
> click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet, and 
> click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with?information on 
> that specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel 
> for the actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific 
> specimens without just linking to a database portal that is not as 
> accessible to the public.
>
> Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections 
> visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a 
> product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as 
> a snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and 
> accessed. Of course this kind of virtual resource would not be 
> feasible for an entire collection, but I think it's very intriguing 
> and useful for visualizing a specific portion of a collection.
> Thank you!
>
> Genevieve Anderegg
> -- 
> University of Colorado Boulder
> Museum and Field Studies MS
> CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab
> she/her/hers
> 612-876-8138
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
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> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. Seehttp://www.spnhc.org  for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.


-- 


Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

Postanschrift:

Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
M?nchhausenstr. 21
81247 M?nchen

Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/

---------

Dirk Neumann

Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

postal address:

Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
Muenchhausenstr. 21
81247 Munich (Germany)

Visit our section at:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/
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From dyanega at gmail.com  Mon Feb 14 20:02:33 2022
From: dyanega at gmail.com (Douglas Yanega)
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2022 17:02:33 -0800
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label
Message-ID: <dfbac7c8-203f-8c5e-ad3e-26d10da26ef4@gmail.com>

While curating today, I came across a fair-sized series of specimens 
with one of those locality labels that make you pull out your hair. It 
typifies most of the worst of this sort of label, in its combination of 
useless vagueness (the only recognizable place name is the country) and 
hopeless specificity (it gives the name of a privately-held property, 
rather than a town or some other place name that would appear on a map).

To wit:

ZAMBIA

?Amorotis Farm"

15.ii.1972, S.C. Cruickshank

Host: on citrus

Don't bother Googling; either the farm name is badly misspelled, or it 
is no longer extant, and has never been recorded in a document that is 
on the web. There is also a Mr. S.A. Cruickshank who works with farmers 
in Zambia, but that's a different person entirely.

It's not crucial for us to know more precisely (for genetic work, just 
Zambia is probably sufficient), but it seems a shame to have the 
*potential* to know exactly where these specimens are from but be 
compelled to exclude them from georeferencing (a point with an error 
radius of 700 kilometers is really more likely to confuse people than be 
helpful, as so few people check error radii when consulting online records).

A disproportionate number of the specimen records of this general nature 
in our collection are from ranches or farms, from many different 
countries, and even within the US. They are, not surprisingly, almost 
impossible to track down once they change hands or go defunct (e.g. "6 
mi W Stanton Ranch HQ, Santa Cruz Island", which is not helpful when the 
ranch was a few miles in diameter and the few buildings were razed or 
repurposed decades ago), and not always trivial to locate even if still 
operating.

Asking here is a long shot, but I'd also be curious as to any tricks 
people might know for this type of locality (ranches and farms), even if 
it doesn't solve this particular case. I do know, and make frequent use 
of, the Fuzzy Gazetteer (http://isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/), 
but that's more useful for mistranscriptions or bad handwritten labels. 
For those of you unfamiliar with it, it's a very helpful tool.

Thanks,

-- 
Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
              https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html
   "There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness
         is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82
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From j.beccaloni at nhm.ac.uk  Tue Feb 15 07:02:16 2022
From: j.beccaloni at nhm.ac.uk (Jan Beccaloni)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:02:16 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label
In-Reply-To: <dfbac7c8-203f-8c5e-ad3e-26d10da26ef4@gmail.com>
References: <dfbac7c8-203f-8c5e-ad3e-26d10da26ef4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <LO2P265MB110114CBDD452B191D73442BAB349@LO2P265MB1101.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

HI Doug,

I feel your pain, particularly when I come upon labels which only say 'India'..........

Jan

Janet Beccaloni MA, BA Hons.
Senior Curator
Chelicerata (Arachnida, Xiphosura, Pycnogonida), Myriapoda, Tardigrada & Onychophora
Division of Invertebrates
Department of Life Sciences
The Natural History Museum
Cromwell Road
London SW7 5BD
0207 942 5309


From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Douglas Yanega
Sent: 15 February 2022 01:03
To: nhcoll <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label


While curating today, I came across a fair-sized series of specimens with one of those locality labels that make you pull out your hair. It typifies most of the worst of this sort of label, in its combination of useless vagueness (the only recognizable place name is the country) and hopeless specificity (it gives the name of a privately-held property, rather than a town or some other place name that would appear on a map).

To wit:

ZAMBIA

"Amorotis Farm"

15.ii.1972, S.C. Cruickshank

Host: on citrus

Don't bother Googling; either the farm name is badly misspelled, or it is no longer extant, and has never been recorded in a document that is on the web. There is also a Mr. S.A. Cruickshank who works with farmers in Zambia, but that's a different person entirely.

It's not crucial for us to know more precisely (for genetic work, just Zambia is probably sufficient), but it seems a shame to have the potential to know exactly where these specimens are from but be compelled to exclude them from georeferencing (a point with an error radius of 700 kilometers is really more likely to confuse people than be helpful, as so few people check error radii when consulting online records).

A disproportionate number of the specimen records of this general nature in our collection are from ranches or farms, from many different countries, and even within the US. They are, not surprisingly, almost impossible to track down once they change hands or go defunct (e.g. "6 mi W Stanton Ranch HQ, Santa Cruz Island", which is not helpful when the ranch was a few miles in diameter and the few buildings were razed or repurposed decades ago), and not always trivial to locate even if still operating.

Asking here is a long shot, but I'd also be curious as to any tricks people might know for this type of locality (ranches and farms), even if it doesn't solve this particular case. I do know, and make frequent use of, the Fuzzy Gazetteer (http://isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/), but that's more useful for mistranscriptions or bad handwritten labels. For those of you unfamiliar with it, it's a very helpful tool.

Thanks,

--

Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum

Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega

phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)

             https://uk01.l.antigena.com/l/fjizo8nVfZviouqi4CXJjC6Cii_13MBd5NC_R3KlbaMvcey-jsLP_~jc1lyIvHX4Pz9n4DgTe2sZ_9FyHq7DcYPN~dLG3i8fmGn1I_52NksHk3eAbndvHAsIrMKkvzwXbd2Z6~woXj-~jzVj-kj

  "There are some enterprises in which a careful disorderliness

        is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82
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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Tue Feb 15 07:51:19 2022
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 12:51:19 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label
In-Reply-To: <dfbac7c8-203f-8c5e-ad3e-26d10da26ef4@gmail.com>
References: <dfbac7c8-203f-8c5e-ad3e-26d10da26ef4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BL0PR01MB5220621C7A5649363DE1EF14C3349@BL0PR01MB5220.prod.exchangelabs.com>

I've scored some good leads to obscure/outdated/colloquial place names and place/people collocations from newspapers.com, though you'll need a subscription to see the details. A remarkable number of English-language newspapers from non-English-speaking countries are now online, which can help with (for example) anglicized Chinese and Pacific place names. Obituaries in local newspapers can be a gold mine, as they often bring together a person's name and the places they once lived for the first and only time in print and thus online.

Paul Callomon
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates
________________________________
Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University
1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA
prc44 at drexel.edu<mailto:prc44 at drexel.edu> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170



From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Douglas Yanega
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 8:03 PM
To: nhcoll <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label


External.

While curating today, I came across a fair-sized series of specimens with one of those locality labels that make you pull out your hair. It typifies most of the worst of this sort of label, in its combination of useless vagueness (the only recognizable place name is the country) and hopeless specificity (it gives the name of a privately-held property, rather than a town or some other place name that would appear on a map).

To wit:

ZAMBIA

"Amorotis Farm"

15.ii.1972, S.C. Cruickshank

Host: on citrus

Don't bother Googling; either the farm name is badly misspelled, or it is no longer extant, and has never been recorded in a document that is on the web. There is also a Mr. S.A. Cruickshank who works with farmers in Zambia, but that's a different person entirely.

It's not crucial for us to know more precisely (for genetic work, just Zambia is probably sufficient), but it seems a shame to have the potential to know exactly where these specimens are from but be compelled to exclude them from georeferencing (a point with an error radius of 700 kilometers is really more likely to confuse people than be helpful, as so few people check error radii when consulting online records).

A disproportionate number of the specimen records of this general nature in our collection are from ranches or farms, from many different countries, and even within the US. They are, not surprisingly, almost impossible to track down once they change hands or go defunct (e.g. "6 mi W Stanton Ranch HQ, Santa Cruz Island", which is not helpful when the ranch was a few miles in diameter and the few buildings were razed or repurposed decades ago), and not always trivial to locate even if still operating.

Asking here is a long shot, but I'd also be curious as to any tricks people might know for this type of locality (ranches and farms), even if it doesn't solve this particular case. I do know, and make frequent use of, the Fuzzy Gazetteer (http://isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fisodp.hof-university.de%2Ffuzzyg%2Fquery%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7Cfb76d3125f064e97f3c108d9f01edd8d%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C1%7C637804837664913299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=RII%2FGhIDj9gDfkO6Mxfj2zMrQV71rleaoCg12I3VGb4%3D&reserved=0>), but that's more useful for mistranscriptions or bad handwritten labels. For those of you unfamiliar with it, it's a very helpful tool.

Thanks,

--

Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum

Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega

phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)

             https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffaculty.ucr.edu%2F~heraty%2Fyanega.html&data=04%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7Cfb76d3125f064e97f3c108d9f01edd8d%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C1%7C637804837665069548%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xxK%2B0qyDzAlrHoJA%2BMzNiTlNjabcNm3cy2%2BgoyuoMlU%3D&reserved=0>

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From cassidyk at wsu.edu  Tue Feb 15 14:46:23 2022
From: cassidyk at wsu.edu (Cassidy, Kelly Michela)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 19:46:23 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label
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I feel your pain. Sometimes, with a lot of creative googling, I can make a pretty good guess, sometimes it?s hopeless.

IF the collector did a lot of collecting, and your collection is already computerized, you can sometimes figure out, or narrow down, the location by looking at his/her entire set of collecting locales. If it?s an old date, and the collector collected something else with a more specific location on the same date, you can reasonably assume he/she couldn?t have traveled very far in one day on bad roads with the transportation options available at the time. Sometimes, you can find mention of the ranch or farm or whatever on a different specimen, but with more specific location data.

One of the early Directors at our museum was W. T. Shaw, who did a lot of collecting in alpine and subalpine areas in Washington. He would sometimes give a collecting location like ?Mt Rainier?, or ?Mt. Baker? or some other description that could include a lot of territory. I hate to put the georefencing point on the center of a mountain. Like you said, the uncertainty radius is often ignored and it looks like the creature was collected at 14,000 feet on rock and ice. However, if Shaw had collected several other species in the same week, all from the vicinity of the same glacier or creek, it?s probably safe to assume that in 1918, he wasn?t zipping from one side of the mountain to the other and back again in a single day. It can even be helpful to go out on Vernet and look for a collector if he/she was someone who would contribute to multiple museums or some of the collector?s specimens had been traded among museums.

On the other hand, if the collector was a member of the public who contributed a single specimens with a location like ?Murphy?s Ranch?, you?re out of luck.

If you

Dr. Kelly M. Cassidy, Curator, Conner Museum
School of Biological Sciences
Box 644236
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-4236
509-335-3515

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Douglas Yanega
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 5:03 PM
To: nhcoll <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label


While curating today, I came across a fair-sized series of specimens with one of those locality labels that make you pull out your hair. It typifies most of the worst of this sort of label, in its combination of useless vagueness (the only recognizable place name is the country) and hopeless specificity (it gives the name of a privately-held property, rather than a town or some other place name that would appear on a map).

To wit:

ZAMBIA

?Amorotis Farm"

15.ii.1972, S.C. Cruickshank

Host: on citrus

Don't bother Googling; either the farm name is badly misspelled, or it is no longer extant, and has never been recorded in a document that is on the web. There is also a Mr. S.A. Cruickshank who works with farmers in Zambia, but that's a different person entirely.

It's not crucial for us to know more precisely (for genetic work, just Zambia is probably sufficient), but it seems a shame to have the potential to know exactly where these specimens are from but be compelled to exclude them from georeferencing (a point with an error radius of 700 kilometers is really more likely to confuse people than be helpful, as so few people check error radii when consulting online records).

A disproportionate number of the specimen records of this general nature in our collection are from ranches or farms, from many different countries, and even within the US. They are, not surprisingly, almost impossible to track down once they change hands or go defunct (e.g. "6 mi W Stanton Ranch HQ, Santa Cruz Island", which is not helpful when the ranch was a few miles in diameter and the few buildings were razed or repurposed decades ago), and not always trivial to locate even if still operating.

Asking here is a long shot, but I'd also be curious as to any tricks people might know for this type of locality (ranches and farms), even if it doesn't solve this particular case. I do know, and make frequent use of, the Fuzzy Gazetteer (http://isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/__;!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!9XlhvRt9rMuqBNnB102Lz0Bhpdp3VoRWiDMkeTykYsLkdNbtXtWWvYUULrVd-8o$>), but that's more useful for mistranscriptions or bad handwritten labels. For those of you unfamiliar with it, it's a very helpful tool.

Thanks,

--

Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum

Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega

phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)

             https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/faculty.ucr.edu/*heraty/yanega.html__;fg!!JmPEgBY0HMszNaDT!9XlhvRt9rMuqBNnB102Lz0Bhpdp3VoRWiDMkeTykYsLkdNbtXtWWvYUUio0HEVU$>

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From neumann at snsb.de  Tue Feb 15 15:46:05 2022
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2022 21:46:05 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label
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Interesting to know that in the northeaster-most corner of Bavaria, in 
Hof (also called Bavarian-Siberia because of the cold winters), they 
developed such a nice tool; thanks for sharing, Doug!

Also a good source for old(er) place names are the historic maps that 
are provided online by the University of Texas, Austin: 
https://maps.lib.utexas.edu/maps/index.html
Larger farms, settlements or missionary stations can be found in them 
for some countries (occasionally, local spellings can be a bit 
'flexible'); but it's good to know in which areas of a country you 
should search to restrict the area you need to look up. Always good to 
check plausibility of results from old maps with modern spellings 
offered on other web resources, and to note the original source of 
information in the remarks field or similar in the database, so that the 
source is clear (and traceable).

Hope this is useful
Dirk

Am 15.02.2022 um 13:51 schrieb Callomon,Paul:
>
> I?ve scored some good leads to obscure/outdated/colloquial place names 
> and place/people collocations from newspapers.com, though you?ll need 
> a subscription to see the details. A remarkable number of 
> English-language newspapers from non-English-speaking countries are 
> now online, which can help with (for example) anglicized Chinese and 
> Pacific place names. Obituaries in local newspapers can be a gold 
> mine, as they often bring together a person?s name and the places they 
> once lived for the first and only time in print and thus online.
>
> Paul Callomon
>
> Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates//
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *Academy of Natural Sciences of Drexel University***
>
> 1900 Benjamin Franklin Parkway, Philadelphia PA 19103-1195, USA
> /prc44 at drexel.edu <mailto:prc44 at drexel.edu> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 
> 215-299-1170/
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of 
> *Douglas Yanega
> *Sent:* Monday, February 14, 2022 8:03 PM
> *To:* nhcoll <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] difficult locality label
>
> *External.*
>
> While curating today, I came across a fair-sized series of specimens 
> with one of those locality labels that make you pull out your hair. It 
> typifies most of the worst of this sort of label, in its combination 
> of useless vagueness (the only recognizable place name is the country) 
> and hopeless specificity (it gives the name of a privately-held 
> property, rather than a town or some other place name that would 
> appear on a map).
>
> To wit:
>
> ZAMBIA
>
> ?Amorotis Farm"
>
> 15.ii.1972, S.C. Cruickshank
>
> Host: on citrus
>
> Don't bother Googling; either the farm name is badly misspelled, or it 
> is no longer extant, and has never been recorded in a document that is 
> on the web. There is also a Mr. S.A. Cruickshank who works with 
> farmers in Zambia, but that's a different person entirely.
>
> It's not crucial for us to know more precisely (for genetic work, just 
> Zambia is probably sufficient), but it seems a shame to have the 
> *potential* to know exactly where these specimens are from but be 
> compelled to exclude them from georeferencing (a point with an error 
> radius of 700 kilometers is really more likely to confuse people than 
> be helpful, as so few people check error radii when consulting online 
> records).
>
> A disproportionate number of the specimen records of this general 
> nature in our collection are from ranches or farms, from many 
> different countries, and even within the US. They are, not 
> surprisingly, almost impossible to track down once they change hands 
> or go defunct (e.g. "6 mi W Stanton Ranch HQ, Santa Cruz Island", 
> which is not helpful when the ranch was a few miles in diameter and 
> the few buildings were razed or repurposed decades ago), and not 
> always trivial to locate even if still operating.
>
> Asking here is a long shot, but I'd also be curious as to any tricks 
> people might know for this type of locality (ranches and farms), even 
> if it doesn't solve this particular case. I do know, and make frequent 
> use of, the Fuzzy Gazetteer 
> (http://isodp.hof-university.de/fuzzyg/query/ 
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fisodp.hof-university.de%2Ffuzzyg%2Fquery%2F&data=04%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7Cfb76d3125f064e97f3c108d9f01edd8d%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C1%7C637804837664913299%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=RII%2FGhIDj9gDfkO6Mxfj2zMrQV71rleaoCg12I3VGb4%3D&reserved=0>), 
> but that's more useful for mistranscriptions or bad handwritten 
> labels. For those of you unfamiliar with it, it's a very helpful tool.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -- 
> Doug Yanega????? Dept. of Entomology?????? Entomology Research Museum
> Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314???? skype: dyanega
> phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
>               https://faculty.ucr.edu/~heraty/yanega.html  <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ffaculty.ucr.edu%2F~heraty%2Fyanega.html&data=04%7C01%7Cprc44%40drexel.edu%7Cfb76d3125f064e97f3c108d9f01edd8d%7C3664e6fa47bd45a696708c4f080f8ca6%7C0%7C1%7C637804837665069548%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=xxK%2B0qyDzAlrHoJA%2BMzNiTlNjabcNm3cy2%2BgoyuoMlU%3D&reserved=0>
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>  ??????? is the true method" - Herman Melville, Moby Dick, Chap. 82
>
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From c.e.smith at pgr.reading.ac.uk  Wed Feb 16 04:08:44 2022
From: c.e.smith at pgr.reading.ac.uk (Claire Smith)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 09:08:44 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Greenfix as a long term storage medium?
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Do any of you use Greenfix as a long-term storage medium in your fluid collections?
We have a grand total of ten specimens stored in Greenfix since 2014, two of which have almost completely evaporated. (They're very small, <50ml.) We're just debating the benefits of topping them up, versus switching them into Ethanol.

We're also wondering about Greenfix's effects on tissues - we have a specimen which is used for teaching a couple of times a year, which needs to remain pliable, as it's a deer leg used to demonstrate working musculature. It's currently stored in formalin, which means we have to wash and re-fix it every time it's used. We'd like to transfer it into a safer fluid for handling, and were wondering whether Greenfix would be suitable for this?

If anybody has any advice on the subject, we'd be very grateful!
Many thanks,
Claire Smith & Caitlin Walton
Cole Museum of Zoology
University of Reading
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From: mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu (Phillips,Molly)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 14:00:44 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] iDigBio Summer Internship Program
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Please help us spread the word about the iDigBio Summer Internship Program!

The iDigBio Summer Internship Program (iDB-SIP) is an NSF-funded activity geared towards providing authentic research opportunities in natural history collections for undergraduates. These internships will provide funding for undergraduate students from accredited institutions to work within a partnering natural history collection (see below for our 2022 partners) over an 8-week period during the summer of 2022. Interns will be expected to help with the digitization, curation, and research efforts in their lab, with options to complete their own research project. Interns will participate in virtual and in-person meet-ups with their cohort to build professional skills including, but not limited to: grant writing, scientific poster designs, and scientific writing throughout their cohort year (April - December 2022). Interns will also receive funding to attend a professional meeting in 2023 to disseminate their research and experience to the greater science community. Interns will also have the option to participate as peer mentors for subsequent cohorts.

Our partnering Institutions for 2022 are:

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2. Field Museum, Chicago, IL

3. University of California Museum of Paleontology, Berkeley, CA

4. University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, MI

Although we have funding for stipends and conference travel we do not have housing or relocation funding, so please be mindful of logistics as you apply!

The application period is now open and will close on March 11, 2022, 11:59pm ET. Find more details about the participating collections and apply here: https://www.idigbio.org/content/idigbio-natural-history-collections-summer-internship-2022

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From couteaufin at btinternet.com  Wed Feb 16 10:28:22 2022
From: couteaufin at btinternet.com (Simon Moore)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 15:28:22 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Greenfix as a long term storage medium?
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I have never used Greenfix which is a glyoxal-based fixative but I am unsure of whether it brings about a fixation reaction - chemical change so that protein molecules are more stabilised.  If so, then a transfer to alcohol should do no harm in theory. 

For the deer leg I would advise a glycol / phenoxyethanol-based preservative, there are several at least and that will solve the problem of flexibility.  

Wait until there have been more responses from those who may have used Greenfix. 

With all good wishes, Simon

Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS, ACR
Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,

www.natural-history-conservation.com




> On 16 Feb 2022, at 09:08, Claire Smith <c.e.smith at pgr.reading.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
> Do any of you use Greenfix as a long-term storage medium in your fluid collections?
> We have a grand total of ten specimens stored in Greenfix since 2014, two of which have almost completely evaporated. (They?re very small, <50ml.) We?re just debating the benefits of topping them up, versus switching them into Ethanol.
>  
> We?re also wondering about Greenfix?s effects on tissues ? we have a specimen which is used for teaching a couple of times a year, which needs to remain pliable, as it?s a deer leg used to demonstrate working musculature. It?s currently stored in formalin, which means we have to wash and re-fix it every time it?s used. We?d like to transfer it into a safer fluid for handling, and were wondering whether Greenfix would be suitable for this?
>  
> If anybody has any advice on the subject, we?d be very grateful!
> Many thanks, 
> Claire Smith & Caitlin Walton
> Cole Museum of Zoology
> University of Reading
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From dlpaul at illinois.edu  Wed Feb 16 17:25:49 2022
From: dlpaul at illinois.edu (Deborah Paul)
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022 16:25:49 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] TIME SENSITIVE Re: The Biodiversity Informatics
 Landscape - this Survey Needs You
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Dearest SPNHC Folks,

RE: ONLY 5 DAYS left to share your insights! The Biodiversity 
Informatics Landscape Survey? -- Needs Your Experience
Survey Link https://tinyurl.com/biodiversity2022

Please, if you have thoughts about the #biodiversity #informatics 
landscape from your personal collections perspective, our survey awaits.
- what courses and curricula exist?
- what content needs to be in the ideal courses?
- who needs biodiversity informatics skills and knowledge?
- where are these being taught?

Our survey has only 5 days left. We're well over 100 responses now -- 
we'd like to get over 200! Please help us by adding your input so our 
data pile has your experiences included. Help us understand the current 
professional development going on around biodiversity informatics from 
your particular sphere.

Many thanks to all of you who've shared your input so far.

In anticipation,

Debbie, et al on behalf of our BioInfo Interest Group


On 2022-01-24 9:30 AM, Deborah Paul wrote:
> Dear SPNHC Folks,
>
> Please help our community illuminate ?biodiversity informatics??what 
> does it mean, what core set of competencies does it represent, and who 
> should be teaching it? Please share your knowledge and experience with 
> this topic in a20-minute survey 
> <https://tinyurl.com/biodiversity2022>. We expect to synthesize the 
> results in a paper with recommendations for training our existing and 
> rising workforce in biodiversity research, conservation, and 
> management. We appreciate and value your willingness to share your 
> thoughts.
>
> The survey closes on 21 February 2022. Survey Link 
> https://tinyurl.com/biodiversity2022 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tinyurl.com/biodiversity2022__;!!DZ3fjg!ucZUi7S6WW3Jh5bAHNAXT-euMcXNl-aSGd2WJ_j9_Hfaxsn2MjkabH_WRfvKAPSD7A$> 
>
>
> With gratitude,
>
> Deborah Paul on behalf of our BioInfo Interest Group
>
> /Please excuse the multiple cross-postings (we look forward to a 
> worldwide response)/ 

-- 
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- Species File Group (INHS), University of Illinois
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From mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu  Thu Feb 17 12:22:10 2022
From: mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu (Phillips,Molly)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 17:22:10 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] iDigTRIO Biology Career Conference Next Week!
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Florida Museum of Natural History
University of Florida
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From voraghl at gmail.com  Thu Feb 17 17:11:33 2022
From: voraghl at gmail.com (Sebastien Enault)
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2022 23:11:33 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Spermwhale skeleton/water damage
Message-ID: <CABi6RTtWG38HF3C_N_=O0N8PuuiSvQQnWfPnd2KoyxuNu1oM-w@mail.gmail.com>

Dear all,
A museum we've been working with suffered water damage a couple of months
ago. Among the damaged collections is a disarticulated spermwhale skeleton,
and some bones spent several days completely submerged in dirty water from
the nearby river. Since then the water was drained and the bones dried but
they exhibit extensive staining. We have no experience with this kind of
issue, but I offered to ask around here, see if anyone had a similar
experience or could provide some insights as to what would the best course
of action be (if anything should be done at all). Only thing we suggested
was to wait until the weather gets warmer/sunnier, rinse the bones with
clean water and air dry them in sunlight.
Attached are a couple of pictures of the bones in question.
Thanks all in advance,
Sebastien Enault
======================
Sebastien Enault, PhD
www.kraniata.com
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From Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee  Fri Feb 18 09:38:29 2022
From: Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee (Lennart Lennuk)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:38:29 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?
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References: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>
 <5b206c66-9c32-e4f9-6881-3fa9526d0a50@snsb.de>
Message-ID: <c6416218e05f448198e4136821163e50@loodusmuuseum.ee>

Hi Genevieve,

I would reccomend to look into Yale Peabody Museum explore at home and Smithsonian 3D digitization:
https://peabody.yale.edu/at-home
https://3d.si.edu/?utm_source=siedu&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=promo

Also the featherbase is quite good example where you can take measurements by clkicking ?measure feathers? on the
Bottom of feathersheets.
https://www.featherbase.info/

Best regards,
Lennart Lennuk



From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 8:51 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?

Hi Genevieve,

in the grand exhibition hall in the National Museum in Edinburgh they have (had?) an very interesting concept to display the specimens: visitors need to match voices with corresponding animals. It was really interesting to see how many people got trapped (=stayed) and engaged.

Might be worth checking if such a concept can be transferred into the virtual space (should be doable); the specimen information would then be a plus, while the trigger to attract the curiosity of the visitors is entirely different from how we usually attract our audience.

There are some similarities with the board game Wingspan: you can learn A LOT about North American bird life, but this information sneaks into the game from behind.

Hope this helps
Dirk


Am 14.02.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Genevieve Anderegg:
Happy Monday everyone,
I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online "collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual visitor can see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage space and get specimen information. The example that inspired me is from UAMs Virtual Herbarium Tour (https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081), where you can click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet, and click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with information on that specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel for the actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific specimens without just linking to a database portal that is not as accessible to the public.

Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as a snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and accessed. Of course this kind of virtual resource would not be feasible for an entire collection, but I think it's very intriguing and useful for visualizing a specific portion of a collection.
Thank you!

Genevieve Anderegg
--
University of Colorado Boulder
Museum and Field Studies MS
CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab
she/her/hers
612-876-8138





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From zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu  Fri Feb 18 14:22:05 2022
From: zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu (Randall, Zachary)
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2022 19:22:05 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?
In-Reply-To: <c6416218e05f448198e4136821163e50@loodusmuuseum.ee>
References: <CANk0z51tdJkWFWTRpF81-+ZB7Z987bak3n9g1UEiOZ=M=TTO_g@mail.gmail.com>
 <5b206c66-9c32-e4f9-6881-3fa9526d0a50@snsb.de>
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Hi Genevieve,

Another excellent platform for visualizing collections which I haven?t seen mentioned yet is Sketchfab. You can easily host your 3D objects on this site and link to most virtual galleries/museum sites. It?s very accessible and user friendly.

We?re big fans of it here at the Florida Museum. Here?s an example of our growing photogrammetry collection: https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum

Best,
Zach
--
Zachary S. Randall
Digital Imaging Manager
Florida Museum of Natural History
1659 Museum Road, Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
(352) 273-1958 | zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu>

https://zachrandall.weebly.com/
www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/digital-lab/<http://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/digital-lab/>
https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum


From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:38 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?

[External Email]
Hi Genevieve,

I would reccomend to look into Yale Peabody Museum explore at home and Smithsonian 3D digitization:
https://peabody.yale.edu/at-home<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__peabody.yale.edu_at-2Dhome&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=KQpZ8Ip442vq3jhYS5DwwT_o4TZlf-aV88m9JjoWWYU&e=>
https://3d.si.edu/?utm_source=siedu&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=promo<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__3d.si.edu_-3Futm-5Fsource-3Dsiedu-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dreferral-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dpromo&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=b7PMpO5ATLzRD3Mu0ZI4LUzOqvswD6WFre7v6IsoOCk&e=>

Also the featherbase is quite good example where you can take measurements by clkicking ?measure feathers? on the
Bottom of feathersheets.
https://www.featherbase.info/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.featherbase.info_&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=cx4n9CmvHonlqNT-fAsx8nOHDssQoIboxw-1F695APM&e=>

Best regards,
Lennart Lennuk



From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 8:51 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?

Hi Genevieve,

in the grand exhibition hall in the National Museum in Edinburgh they have (had?) an very interesting concept to display the specimens: visitors need to match voices with corresponding animals. It was really interesting to see how many people got trapped (=stayed) and engaged.

Might be worth checking if such a concept can be transferred into the virtual space (should be doable); the specimen information would then be a plus, while the trigger to attract the curiosity of the visitors is entirely different from how we usually attract our audience.

There are some similarities with the board game Wingspan: you can learn A LOT about North American bird life, but this information sneaks into the game from behind.

Hope this helps
Dirk


Am 14.02.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Genevieve Anderegg:
Happy Monday everyone,
I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online "collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual visitor can see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage space and get specimen information. The example that inspired me is from UAMs Virtual Herbarium Tour (https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.thinglink.com_scene_1406090479749038081&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=_m--DN7ChqC1MlFUKAj2-24IG4peU8EZwYRcJ3-9VxY&e=>), where you can click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet, and click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with information on that specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel for the actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific specimens without just linking to a database portal that is not as accessible to the public.

Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as a snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and accessed. Of course this kind of virtual resource would not be feasible for an entire collection, but I think it's very intriguing and useful for visualizing a specific portion of a collection.
Thank you!

Genevieve Anderegg
--
University of Colorado Boulder
Museum and Field Studies MS
CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab
she/her/hers
612-876-8138



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neumann(a)snsb.de

Postanschrift:

Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung M?nchen
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Storage
M?nchhausenstr. 21
81247 M?nchen

Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.zsm.mwn.de_sektion_ichthyologie-2Dhome_&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=BZXfGN9bW5QPUD79tZkiqaaCF_MVlsO-4WFe7Vzp8vw&e=>

---------

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Tel: +49-89-8107-111
Fax: +49-89-8107-300
neumann(a)snsb.de

postal address:

Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
Muenchhausenstr. 21
81247 Munich (Germany)

Visit our section at:
http://www.zsm.mwn.de/sektion/ichthyologie-home/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.zsm.mwn.de_sektion_ichthyologie-2Dhome_&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=BZXfGN9bW5QPUD79tZkiqaaCF_MVlsO-4WFe7Vzp8vw&e=>
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From chadwick at swau.edu  Sat Feb 19 14:41:29 2022
From: chadwick at swau.edu (Art Chadwick)
Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2022 19:41:29 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] EXTERNAL:Re: Visualizing collections for online
 public viewing?
Message-ID: <a74b561b-f629-4945-a173-8121a1a959b5@email.android.com>

Our online museum has several features that might be of interest, including nearly 5000 downloadsble and printable 3dvr images of dinosaur bones and other fossils. The url is https://fossil.swau.edu .

On Feb 18, 2022 11:22 AM, "Randall, Zachary" <zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu> wrote:

Hi Genevieve,



Another excellent platform for visualizing collections which I haven?t seen mentioned yet is Sketchfab. You can easily host your 3D objects on this site and link to most virtual galleries/museum sites. It?s very accessible and user friendly.



We?re big fans of it here at the Florida Museum. Here?s an example of our growing photogrammetry collection: https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum



Best,

Zach

--

Zachary S. Randall

Digital Imaging Manager

Florida Museum of Natural History

1659 Museum Road, Gainesville, FL 32611-7800

(352) 273-1958 | zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu>



https://zachrandall.weebly.com/

www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/digital-lab/<http://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/digital-lab/>

https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum





From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:38 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?



[External Email]

Hi Genevieve,



I would reccomend to look into Yale Peabody Museum explore at home and Smithsonian 3D digitization:

https://peabody.yale.edu/at-home<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__peabody.yale.edu_at-2Dhome&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=KQpZ8Ip442vq3jhYS5DwwT_o4TZlf-aV88m9JjoWWYU&e=>

https://3d.si.edu/?utm_source=siedu&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=promo<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__3d.si.edu_-3Futm-5Fsource-3Dsiedu-26utm-5Fmedium-3Dreferral-26utm-5Fcampaign-3Dpromo&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=b7PMpO5ATLzRD3Mu0ZI4LUzOqvswD6WFre7v6IsoOCk&e=>



Also the featherbase is quite good example where you can take measurements by clkicking ?measure feathers? on the

Bottom of feathersheets.

https://www.featherbase.info/<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.featherbase.info_&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=cx4n9CmvHonlqNT-fAsx8nOHDssQoIboxw-1F695APM&e=>



Best regards,
Lennart Lennuk







From: Nhcoll-l [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 8:51 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?



Hi Genevieve,



in the grand exhibition hall in the National Museum in Edinburgh they have (had?) an very interesting concept to display the specimens: visitors need to match voices with corresponding animals. It was really interesting to see how many people got trapped (=stayed) and engaged.



Might be worth checking if such a concept can be transferred into the virtual space (should be doable); the specimen information would then be a plus, while the trigger to attract the curiosity of the visitors is entirely different from how we usually attract our audience.



There are some similarities with the board game Wingspan: you can learn A LOT about North American bird life, but this information sneaks into the game from behind.



Hope this helps

Dirk





Am 14.02.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Genevieve Anderegg:

Happy Monday everyone,

I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online "collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual visitor can see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage space and get specimen information. The example that inspired me is from UAMs Virtual Herbarium Tour (https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.thinglink.com_scene_1406090479749038081&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=_m--DN7ChqC1MlFUKAj2-24IG4peU8EZwYRcJ3-9VxY&e=>), where you can click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet, and click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with information on that specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel for the actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific specimens without just linking to a database portal that is not as accessible to the public.



Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as a snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and accessed. Of course this kind of virtual resource would not be feasible for an entire collection, but I think it's very intriguing and useful for visualizing a specific portion of a collection.

Thank you!



Genevieve Anderegg

--

University of Colorado Boulder

Museum and Field Studies MS

CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab

she/her/hers

612-876-8138





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From mhg.santos15 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 21 07:37:18 2022
From: mhg.santos15 at gmail.com (Helena Santos)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 12:37:18 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Survey - Master's Thesis in Conservation and Restoration
Message-ID: <CANfa0Y78X8pJk+xLdJ+bG2=PjDF6S-1ZSXWcKXHa0A5=osHOOA@mail.gmail.com>

Good morning,

I am developing a survey as part of my Master?s Thesis in Conservation and
Restoration at NOVA School of Science and Technology - FCT NOVA, in
Portugal, which focuses on the study of the *taxidermy collection of
terrestrial mammals with skin and fur* from the Science Museum of the
University of Coimbra.
The purpose of this survey is to understand whether other conservators who
work with these collections are faced with the same problems that I have
encountered, and what solutions they have found to resolve them. For this
reason, this questionnaire is especially aimed at *conservators*, although
it is *open to other professionals* who might take care of the collections,
if there is no conservator working in the institution, so in that case I
ask that the e-mail be forwarded to the person best suited to respond.

This survey will take about 10 minutos and I will be accepting responses
until March 7th: https://forms.gle/obRUDWCfkyryZ8ff7

Best regards,
Helena Santos
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From garymotz at indiana.edu  Mon Feb 21 09:03:11 2022
From: garymotz at indiana.edu (Motz, Gary)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 14:03:11 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?
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Hi Genevieve et al.,

 

Here at Indiana University, we?ve been making virtual tours of our collections spaces available for a while, but we?ve recently begun experimenting with adding more collections objects-related content into the Matterport scanned space. Take a look at some of our relevant examples, below, or a gallery of all of our virtual tours here <https://showcase.avl.iu.edu/projects>  (search for ?Matterport?).

 

The IU Bicentennial Bus traveling exhibit <https://my.matterport.com/show/?m=L4VL15Qoh2e>  (lots of linked content for individual objects, including Sketchfab embeds)

The IU Paleontology Collection <https://my.matterport.com/models/4FXijnxaBcJ?section=media> 

The Center for Ray Bradbury Studies <https://my.matterport.com/models/2ds5iarQnk3?section=media> 

?or even, virtual walking tours of our historic limestone architecture <https://matmerce.pages.iu.edu/CampusLimestoneTour/index.html>  on campus!

 

Enjoy and feel free to contact me off-list with any questions. 

 

Cheers,

Gary



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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Randall, Zachary
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 2:22 PM
To: Lennart Lennuk <Lennart.Lennuk at loodusmuuseum.ee>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?

 

Hi Genevieve,

 

Another excellent platform for visualizing collections which I haven?t seen mentioned yet is Sketchfab. You can easily host your 3D objects on this site and link to most virtual galleries/museum sites. It?s very accessible and user friendly. 

 

We?re big fans of it here at the Florida Museum. Here?s an example of our growing photogrammetry collection: https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum

 

Best,

Zach

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Digital Imaging Manager 

Florida Museum of Natural History 

1659 Museum Road, Gainesville, FL 32611-7800 

(352) 273-1958 |  <mailto:zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu> zrandall at flmnh.ufl.edu    

 

 <https://zachrandall.weebly.com/> https://zachrandall.weebly.com/

 <http://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/digital-lab/> www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/digital-lab/

 <https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum> https://sketchfab.com/FloridaMuseum

 

 

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> > On Behalf Of Lennart Lennuk
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2022 9:38 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> 
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?

 


[External Email] 

Hi Genevieve,

 

I would reccomend to look into Yale Peabody Museum explore at home and Smithsonian 3D digitization:

 <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__peabody.yale.edu_at-2Dhome&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=KQpZ8Ip442vq3jhYS5DwwT_o4TZlf-aV88m9JjoWWYU&e=> https://peabody.yale.edu/at-home

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Also the featherbase is quite good example where you can take measurements by clkicking ?measure feathers? on the

Bottom of feathersheets.

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Best regards,
Lennart Lennuk

 

 

 

From: Nhcoll-l [ <mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu] On Behalf Of Dirk Neumann
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2022 8:51 PM
To:  <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Visualizing collections for online public viewing?

 

Hi Genevieve,

 

in the grand exhibition hall in the National Museum in Edinburgh they have (had?) an very interesting concept to display the specimens: visitors need to match voices with corresponding animals. It was really interesting to see how many people got trapped (=stayed) and engaged.

 

Might be worth checking if such a concept can be transferred into the virtual space (should be doable); the specimen information would then be a plus, while the trigger to attract the curiosity of the visitors is entirely different from how we usually attract our audience.

 

There are some similarities with the board game Wingspan: you can learn A LOT about North American bird life, but this information sneaks into the game from behind.

 

Hope this helps

Dirk

 

 

Am 14.02.2022 um 17:55 schrieb Genevieve Anderegg:

Happy Monday everyone, 

I'm doing a project on the visualization of zoology collections for my masters in museum studies, specifically on online public resources for visualizing collections. I'm interested in the intersection of online "collections tours" and database web portals, where a virtual visitor can see interactive visuals of collections objects and the storage space and get specimen information. The example that inspired me is from UAMs Virtual Herbarium Tour ( <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.thinglink.com_scene_1406090479749038081&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=BsjUEaAzErVnOJA4kXSO_g&m=nZkklGjK_vHdsFk_tBbq6jmuF6NZFQ9of4umeqjR2EO6Ddd6NDRMSgkKCvFuJO7y&s=_m--DN7ChqC1MlFUKAj2-24IG4peU8EZwYRcJ3-9VxY&e=> https://www.thinglink.com/scene/1406090479749038081), where you can click on Caryophyllales and then see a visual of the cabinet, and click again to bring up a specific herbarium sheet with information on that specific specimen. I love this example because it gives a feel for the actual collections space and can teach visitors about specific specimens without just linking to a database portal that is not as accessible to the public.

 

Would anyone happen to have other examples of this kind of collections visualization, or platforms that might be ideal for creating such a product? I'll be doing my project on one cabinet in our collection as a snapshot for the public to see how specimens are stored and accessed. Of course this kind of virtual resource would not be feasible for an entire collection, but I think it's very intriguing and useful for visualizing a specific portion of a collection. 

Thank you!

 

Genevieve Anderegg

-- 

University of Colorado Boulder

Museum and Field Studies MS

CUMNH Vertebrate Collections, McCain Lab

she/her/hers

612-876-8138

 

 

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From ildiko at zoology.ubc.ca  Mon Feb 21 20:18:09 2022
From: ildiko at zoology.ubc.ca (ildiko szabo)
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 17:18:09 -0800
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Survey - Master's Thesis in Conservation and
 Restoration
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FYI

I could not open your doc.  My google doc is not working.  
Others might be having the same difficulty - do you have another similar way of sending your survey?  ildiko
- - -
Ildiko Szabo
Collections Curator
Cowan Tetrapod Collection
UBC Beaty Biodiversity Museum
2212 Main Mall, Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z4
ildiko at zoology.ubc.ca
office: 604-822-4665
cell:    604-781-5717
https://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~ildiko/
Fellow, American Ornithology Society 

Note: My position is 50%. Emails will be answered Wed-Fri. On campus Thurdays and Fridays. 

> On Feb 21, 2022, at 4:37 AM, Helena Santos <mhg.santos15 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> [CAUTION: Non-UBC Email]
> Good morning,
> 
> I am developing a survey as part of my Master?s Thesis in Conservation and Restoration at NOVA School of Science and Technology - FCT NOVA, in Portugal, which focuses on the study of the taxidermy collection of terrestrial mammals with skin and fur from the Science Museum of the University of Coimbra.
> The purpose of this survey is to understand whether other conservators who work with these collections are faced with the same problems that I have encountered, and what solutions they have found to resolve them. For this reason, this questionnaire is especially aimed at conservators, although it is open to other professionals who might take care of the collections, if there is no conservator working in the institution, so in that case I ask that the e-mail be forwarded to the person best suited to respond.
> 
> This survey will take about 10 minutos and I will be accepting responses until March 7th: https://forms.gle/obRUDWCfkyryZ8ff7 <https://forms.gle/obRUDWCfkyryZ8ff7>
> 
> Best regards,
> Helena Santos
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From mhg.santos15 at gmail.com  Tue Feb 22 07:08:20 2022
From: mhg.santos15 at gmail.com (Helena Santos)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 12:08:20 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Survey - Master's Thesis in Conservation and
 Restoration
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Dear Ildiko, thank you so much for bringing this to my attention, and also
for your interest! The only solution I could find is to send you the
questions in a Word document, in case you don't mind answering in this
format.


Kind regards,
Helena Santos


ildiko szabo <ildiko at zoology.ubc.ca> escreveu no dia ter?a, 22/02/2022 ?(s)
01:18:

> FYI
>
> I could not open your doc.  My google doc is not working.
> Others might be having the same difficulty - do you have another similar
> way of sending your survey?  ildiko
> - - -
> Ildiko Szabo
> Collections Curator
> Cowan Tetrapod Collection
> UBC Beaty Biodiversity Museum
> 2212 Main Mall, Vancouver, BC V6T 1Z4
> ildiko at zoology.ubc.ca
> office: 604-822-4665
> cell:    604-781-5717
> https://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~ildiko/
> Fellow, American Ornithology Society
>
> Note: My position is 50%. Emails will be answered Wed-Fri. On campus
> Thurdays and Fridays.
>
> On Feb 21, 2022, at 4:37 AM, Helena Santos <mhg.santos15 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [*CAUTION:* Non-UBC Email]
> Good morning,
>
> I am developing a survey as part of my Master?s Thesis in Conservation and
> Restoration at NOVA School of Science and Technology - FCT NOVA, in
> Portugal, which focuses on the study of the *taxidermy collection of
> terrestrial mammals with skin and fur* from the Science Museum of the
> University of Coimbra.
> The purpose of this survey is to understand whether other conservators who
> work with these collections are faced with the same problems that I have
> encountered, and what solutions they have found to resolve them. For this
> reason, this questionnaire is especially aimed at *conservators*,
> although it is *open to other professionals* who might take care of the
> collections, if there is no conservator working in the institution, so in
> that case I ask that the e-mail be forwarded to the person best suited to
> respond.
>
> This survey will take about 10 minutos and I will be accepting responses
> until March 7th: https://forms.gle/obRUDWCfkyryZ8ff7
>
> Best regards,
> Helena Santos
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> Nhcoll-l mailing list
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> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
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From armbrjw at auburn.edu  Tue Feb 22 11:45:41 2022
From: armbrjw at auburn.edu (Jonathan Armbruster)
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2022 16:45:41 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Job Ad: Curator (Collection Manager) of Terrestrial
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Curator (Collection Manager) of Terrestrial Invertebrates

The Auburn University Museum of Natural History (AUMNH) is seeking a Curator (Collection Manager) for its Terrestrial Invertebrate Collection. The successful candidate will have curatorial experience in insects or other arthropods. Our collections are currently strong in Alabama insects. Duties of the collection manager will include sorting and identifying collections, maintaining existing collections, processing loans of materials, and maintaining the computer database. The candidate should be familiar with database programs, particularly Specify, and be committed to the open presentation of collections data on the internet. The candidate will be expected to contribute to AUMNH outreach and education efforts.  For more information on the AUMNH, please visit: http://www.aumnh.auburn.edu

Minimum Qualifications

The minimum qualifications are a Bachelor's degree from an accredited institution in Biological Sciences or a related discipline. The successful candidate will have knowledge of a wide variety of terrestrial arthropod collections. Knowledge of fundamental concepts, practices and procedures in the procurement and maintenance of collections for exhibition is also required.

Desired Qualifications

Desired qualifications include: A MS or PhD in biology or related field is desired.

Evaluation of applications will begin 14 March 2022, and will continue until a suitable applicant is found. For more information and to apply, visit: https://www.auemployment.com/postings/27712. Submit a cover letter (including a statement describing curatorial experience), CV, and names and contact information of three references. If you have any questions, please contact Dr. Jonathan W. Armbruster, Director AUMNH, Department of Biological Sciences, 101 Life Sciences, Auburn University, AL 36849, Armbrjw at auburn.edu<mailto:Armbrjw at auburn.edu>. 334-844-9261. Auburn University is an equal opportunity/affirmative action employer and actively seeks applications from qualified women and minority candidates.



Jonathan W. Armbruster
Director and Curator of Fishes, Auburn University Museum of Natural History
Professor, Department of Biological Sciences
101 Life Sciences Building
Auburn, AL 36849
334-844-9261

Office: 131 Biodiversity Learning Center (M. White Smith)


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From Tonya.Haff at csiro.au  Thu Feb 24 22:22:44 2022
From: Tonya.Haff at csiro.au (Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace))
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 03:22:44 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] specimens in glycerol
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Hello all,

I am wondering if any of you would give me your thoughts on what the best way to keep very small soft parts (I'm thinking bat bacula and bird tongues) that have been stored in very small vials in glycerol. I would like to store them together in larger jars filled with preservation fluid, with wadding instead of lids on each vial, both for space reasons and to prevent evaporation (the glycerol is pretty good but I have found a few that have dried out). My feeling is that if I do this, the preservation fluid should remain glycerol, but as I haven't done this before I thought I'd ask. Is there reason to switch the preservation fluid to something else, like 70% ETOH (which would involve changing the fluid in each vial), or is it ok to simply top the larger jar with glycerol? Any thoughts appreciated.

Cheers,

Tonya

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Dr. Tonya M. Haff
Collection Manager
Australian National Wildlife Collection
CSIRO

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From simmons.johne at gmail.com  Thu Feb 24 22:58:29 2022
From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 22:58:29 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] specimens in glycerol
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If the specimens have been in glycerol for a long time and are in good
condition, there is no reason to change them. Switching soft tissues to
alcohol will cause some dehydration and shrinkage, so I recommend keeping
them in glycerol.

My preference is to get smooth-sided vials (commonly called shell vials)
and use polyester fiber to make the plugs, rather than cotton. The
advantages of polyester are that it does not absorb grease like cotton
does, does not yellow with age, and it has better regain (meaning it does
not become permanently compressed like cotton does). You can find polyester
fiber for sale in fabric stores, it is used as pillow stuffing.

Do not put so many vials in the jar that it is hard to find the one you
want, and include a label listing all of the vials. Use a good screw-top
glass jar with a flexible polypropylene lid and the system will work well.

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 10:22 PM Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace) <
Tonya.Haff at csiro.au> wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I am wondering if any of you would give me your thoughts on what the best
> way to keep very small soft parts (I?m thinking bat bacula and bird
> tongues) that have been stored in very small vials in glycerol. I would
> like to store them together in larger jars filled with preservation fluid,
> with wadding instead of lids on each vial, both for space reasons and to
> prevent evaporation (the glycerol is pretty good but I have found a few
> that have dried out). My feeling is that if I do this, the preservation
> fluid should remain glycerol, but as I haven?t done this before I thought
> I?d ask. Is there reason to switch the preservation fluid to something
> else, like 70% ETOH (which would involve changing the fluid in each vial),
> or is it ok to simply top the larger jar with glycerol? Any thoughts
> appreciated.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Tonya
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> Dr. Tonya M. Haff
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Australian National Wildlife Collection
>
> CSIRO
>
>
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>
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> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
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From lawrence.gall at yale.edu  Sat Feb 26 14:57:49 2022
From: lawrence.gall at yale.edu (Gall, Lawrence)
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2022 19:57:49 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Moths of North America (MONA) fascicles now available as
 PDFs
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With apologies in advance for cross-posting.

The Wedge Entomological Research Foundation is pleased to offer PDFs of the Moths of North America (MONA) fascicles for download at http://wedgefoundation.org/publications_paypal.asp  All PDFs for fascicles published prior to 2015 are free, whereas PDFs for the four most recent fascicles (9.4 Eucosma, 2015; 9.5 Pelochrista, 2017; 22.1A Notodontidae, 2018; 25.4 Noctuidae, 2020) can be purchased at a 50 percent discount compared to the corresponding print versions.  For additional information please contact the Wedge Foundation's Managing Director, Kelly Richers (kerichers at wuesd.org<mailto:kerichers at wuesd.org>).  Best, Larry

- - -

Lawrence F. Gall, Ph.D.
Head, Computer Systems Office & Entomology Collections Manager

Yale Peabody Museum of Natural History, 170 Whitney Avenue,

New Haven, Connecticut, USA 06511; phone 203-432-9892

http://www.peabody.yale.edu<http://www.peabody.yale.edu/>  https://orcid.org/0000-0003-0690-0969

If urgent call or text my cell: 203-246-1952

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From sarah.taylor at uconn.edu  Mon Feb 28 09:32:38 2022
From: sarah.taylor at uconn.edu (Taylor, Sarah)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:32:38 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated collections?
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Good morning all,

A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on how to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly skins, some taxidermy mounts). He's not interested in individual values for each piece, but a big picture "lump sum." I'm sure this has come up on the listserve before, but I haven't been able to locate it. If anyone has ideas or can point me in the direction of a resource to send to my colleague, I'd really appreciate it! I have no appraisal skills myself - and I'm a botanist - so I'm at a total loss on my end.

Cheers,
Sarah

-----------------------------------------------------------------

Sarah Taylor, PhD


Collections Manager, CONN

George Safford Torrey Herbarium
Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
University of Connecticut
75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
U.S.A.

P: 860.486.1889
F: 860.486.4320
http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/

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From ges at umich.edu  Mon Feb 28 09:53:35 2022
From: ges at umich.edu (Gregory Schneider)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 09:53:35 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated
 collections?
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I think the donor needs to consult with their own outside appraiser. It
might be a conflict of interest for someone at your University to be
involved with that.
Greg Schneider
Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
Museum of Zoology
Research Museums Center
3600 Varsity Drive
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108

734 647 1927

ges at umich.edu



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www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html


On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 9:33 AM Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu>
wrote:

> Good morning all,
>
>
>
> A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on how
> to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly skins, some
> taxidermy mounts). He?s not interested in individual values for each piece,
> but a big picture ?lump sum.? I?m sure this has come up on the listserve
> before, but I haven?t been able to locate it. If anyone has ideas or can
> point me in the direction of a resource to send to my colleague, I?d really
> appreciate it! I have no appraisal skills myself ? and I?m a botanist ? so
> I?m at a total loss on my end.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>
>
> Collections Manager, CONN
>
> George Safford Torrey Herbarium
> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
> *University of Connecticut*
> 75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
> Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
> U.S.A.
>
> P: 860.486.1889
> F: 860.486.4320
> http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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From EAshe at museum.ie  Mon Feb 28 09:57:21 2022
From: EAshe at museum.ie (Ashe, Eimear)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 14:57:21 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] transfer of title for field-collection NH specimens
Message-ID: <36BD508C3181C94582DC29861FF833EE5FC4C5F7@NMCB-MLBX-SRV01.internal.museum.ie>

Dear colleagues,

Just wondering, do your institutions complete Transfer of Title forms (or an equivalent legal form) for field-collected natural history specimens?

The National Museum of Ireland does this for all of its collections, but the Natural History Division are wondering at the logic of completing a Transfer of Title form when a specimen was roadkill, washed up on a beach, collected in a park etc. That is, does the finder/collector hold title to a found object in a public space (or even private space, to complicate things), and can that title be transferred to us?

I would really appreciate emails from you outlining how you manage these acquisitions, particularly if you are attempting to follow the UK Spectrum standard, as we do in the NMI.

If there are online resources relating to this issue, please do share!

Kind regards,

Eimear


Eimear Ashe,
Documentation Officer (Natural History),
Registration Department,
National Museum of Ireland - Collections Resource Centre,
Balheary Road,
Swords,
Co. Dublin,
Ireland
K67 VR88

T: +353-1-8970069


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From simmons.johne at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 10:23:27 2022
From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 10:23:27 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated
 collections?
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Greg is correct that the museum should not be involved in the appraisal or
recommend an appraiser to avoid any appearance of a conflict of interest.

You can tell the donor that there are several ways to estimate value for
the specimens. The obvious way is to find an appraiser who specializes in
natural history collections (the Smithsonian has a list of recognized
appraisal organizations at https://www.si.edu/faqs/appraisals). Other ways
to estimate value include checking auction sites and Ebay and such places
for prices of similar objects (it is surprising how many natural history
specimens are sold that way), or to calculate the cost of duplicating the
collection (even though one can't really duplicate a natural history
collection because specimens are a record of the occurrence of species at
particular times and places)--the costs of travel, obtaining permits, field
work, preparation, etc.

Remember that the donor will have to either make these inquiries or hire
someone not connected to the museum to make the inquiries.

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 9:32 AM Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu>
wrote:

> Good morning all,
>
>
>
> A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on how
> to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly skins, some
> taxidermy mounts). He?s not interested in individual values for each piece,
> but a big picture ?lump sum.? I?m sure this has come up on the listserve
> before, but I haven?t been able to locate it. If anyone has ideas or can
> point me in the direction of a resource to send to my colleague, I?d really
> appreciate it! I have no appraisal skills myself ? and I?m a botanist ? so
> I?m at a total loss on my end.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Sarah
>
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>
>
> Collections Manager, CONN
>
> George Safford Torrey Herbarium
> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
> *University of Connecticut*
> 75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
> Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
> U.S.A.
>
> P: 860.486.1889
> F: 860.486.4320
> http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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From ajlinn at alaska.edu  Mon Feb 28 10:29:30 2022
From: ajlinn at alaska.edu (Angela Linn)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 06:29:30 -0900
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated
 collections?
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The way our museum handles insurance values on our collections in order to report to our central risk management department is to think about the replacement value. If you had to go out and mount an expedition to re-collect those materials what might it cost per item. Cultural materials and many earth science specimens have fair market values so you can look at public auction sites to get a sense of what those items are selling for.

And yes, this is only for insurance values. Museums are prohibited by the IRS to place appraisal values on collections for donors (due to some unethical situations in the ?70s). If a donor asks for an appraisal you can direct them to the American Society of Appraisers (https://www.appraisers.org/) to find someone nearby.  

Good luck!
Angela

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 28, 2022, at 5:53 AM, Gregory Schneider <ges at umich.edu> wrote:
> 
> ?
> I think the donor needs to consult with their own outside appraiser. It might be a conflict of interest for someone at your University to be involved with that.
> Greg Schneider
> Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
> Museum of Zoology
> Research Museums Center
> 3600 Varsity Drive
> University of Michigan
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
> 734 647 1927 
> ges at umich.edu
>  
> 
> www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 9:33 AM Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu> wrote:
>> Good morning all,
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on how to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly skins, some taxidermy mounts). He?s not interested in individual values for each piece, but a big picture ?lump sum.? I?m sure this has come up on the listserve before, but I haven?t been able to locate it. If anyone has ideas or can point me in the direction of a resource to send to my colleague, I?d really appreciate it! I have no appraisal skills myself ? and I?m a botanist ? so I?m at a total loss on my end.
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Sarah
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>> 
>> 
>> Collections Manager, CONN
>> 
>> George Safford Torrey Herbarium
>> Department of Ecology and Evolutionary Biology
>> University of Connecticut
>> 75 North Eagleville Road, Unit 3043
>> Storrs, Connecticut 06269-3043
>> U.S.A.
>> 
>> P: 860.486.1889
>> F: 860.486.4320 
>> http://bgbaseserver.eeb.uconn.edu/
>> 
>>  
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nhcoll-l mailing list
>> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
>> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
>> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
>> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
>> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
>> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
> _______________________________________________
> Nhcoll-l mailing list
> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
> 
> _______________________________________________
> NHCOLL-L is brought to you by the Society for the Preservation of
> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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From Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov  Mon Feb 28 12:59:42 2022
From: Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov (Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS])
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:59:42 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] transfer of title for field-collection NH specimens
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I would be very interested in hearing your replies as well. My institution (the New Jersey State Museum) is multi-disciplinary and the Fine Arts side always pushes for Deeds of Gift (our transfer of title form) for every object, and for donor credit lines for everything we use on an exhibition. I had to explain the concept of exhibit props to them. They are currently in power, for lack of a better way of saying it, and it is rather infuriating to deal with that for Natural History specimens that were field collected legally in public land for which management does not require collecting permits.
For example, there are county parks that freely permit the public to collect fossils within their sites. When a donor brings a fossil collected in such localities, we just have them sign the deed of gift, but if one of us staff scientists collect on Museum time, it becomes a problem-we collected it for the museum and were funded by the museum to do so, so we don't hold title, and because the park publicly and freely permits collection there as a standing policy, there is no one individual recognized as an authority to sign anything over.
Then there are insects collected on museum grounds, for another example. Does the collector own them? Does the Museum? Does the State's department of Treasury? All these legal issues and protocols are well and good when you deal on Fine Arts and purchase or accept 10 paintings a year, but when you're getting hundreds of specimens in (as you do in Natural History) it is quite a burden.

I'm most interested to learn how others deal with this, whether in the UK, Europe, elsewhere, or particularly in the USA.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
USA

Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us<mailto:Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us>
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Dear colleagues,

Just wondering, do your institutions complete Transfer of Title forms (or an equivalent legal form) for field-collected natural history specimens?

The National Museum of Ireland does this for all of its collections, but the Natural History Division are wondering at the logic of completing a Transfer of Title form when a specimen was roadkill, washed up on a beach, collected in a park etc. That is, does the finder/collector hold title to a found object in a public space (or even private space, to complicate things), and can that title be transferred to us?

I would really appreciate emails from you outlining how you manage these acquisitions, particularly if you are attempting to follow the UK Spectrum standard, as we do in the NMI.

If there are online resources relating to this issue, please do share!

Kind regards,

Eimear


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From christopher.tacker at naturalsciences.org  Mon Feb 28 13:50:46 2022
From: christopher.tacker at naturalsciences.org (Tacker, Christopher)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 18:50:46 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] [External] Advice on estimating the value of donated
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Everyone has offered good advice here.

Apart from conflicts of interest, the one that does the appraisal stands to get involved with the state or federal tax enforcement. If the appraisal is called into question, that represents a nearly limitless time sink in hearings or in court.

We tell donors that we will work with whatever appraiser they designate. We still get offers of "I'll donate this if you'll get me an appraisal for X amount of money." That's a big "no, thank you."

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A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice on how to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly skins, some taxidermy mounts). He?s not interested in individual values for each piece, but a big picture ?lump sum.? I?m sure this has come up on the listserve before, but I haven?t been able to locate it. If anyone has ideas or can point me in the direction of a resource to send to my colleague, I?d really appreciate it! I have no appraisal skills myself ? and I?m a botanist ? so I?m at a total loss on my end.



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From lzamorac at asu.edu  Mon Feb 28 13:46:42 2022
From: lzamorac at asu.edu (Luisa Zamora Chavez)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 11:46:42 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
Message-ID: <CAKFg09etoCF5izhy5r740Jd-JA9e-9+ncB5cf8mk5GrU2i_bqA@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to
our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears
to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid
they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol.

I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of
preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more
stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break.
We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of
preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can
safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have
included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly
appreciated!

Kind regards,
Luisa


-- 
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Pronouns: she/they
Research Technician
Arizona State University Biocollections
Lzamorac at asu.edu
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From couteaufin at btinternet.com  Mon Feb 28 14:30:42 2022
From: couteaufin at btinternet.com (Simon Moore)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:30:42 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
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Hi Luisa 

You will need a blade to cut away the tape and an old fashioned type corkscrew to remove the bungs. 
To test the fluid get some Schiff reagent to test for presence of formaldehyde. Extract a few drops of fluid in a beaker add a drop or two of Schiff and if it goes pink or magenta then it?s formalin if not then it?s likely alcohol 
However the snakes look well preserved and unfaded, so I would question the need to rehouse them. 

With all good wishes, Simon Moore. 
Sent from my iPhone


> On 28 Feb 2022, at 19:06, Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hello all,
> 
> I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol. 
> 
> I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break. We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly appreciated!  
> 
> Kind regards,
> Luisa
> 
> 
> -- 
> Luisa Zamora Chavez 
> Pronouns: she/they
> Research Technician
> Arizona State University Biocollections
> Lzamorac at asu.edu
> 602-737-8357
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From kdubroff at nhmu.utah.edu  Mon Feb 28 14:47:30 2022
From: kdubroff at nhmu.utah.edu (KAREN DUBROFF)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 19:47:30 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Seeking IPM Advice
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Dear all,

We recently accepted a transfer of a large taxidermy specimen and its case (see attached photo of the case). We were able to place the specimen in our isolation freezer, however, the case is too large to fit and cannot be sufficiently disassembled. Our exhibits team would like to keep the case for display at the museum. Unfortunately, the case was part of a display in a non-museum setting for well over a decade, which is concerning from an IPM perspective, specifically with the completely sealed, presumably hollow, base.

I'm thus coming to you for advice and recommendations regarding pest mitigation for the case.

Many thanks in advance,
Karen

Karen DuBroff
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Natural History Museum of Utah
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University of Utah
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From simmons.johne at gmail.com  Mon Feb 28 15:00:22 2022
From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 15:00:22 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
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This technique was published in Turtox News 15(10:129 in October of 1937 in
an anonymous short article with the title "A method of displaying snakes."
The article includes a photograph of a rack holding a number of long tubes
with preserved snakes stretched out in them, sent in by "Professor John M.
Frazier of the State Teachers College, Hattiesburg Mississippi." Prof.
Frazier reported that "The snakes are injected with formalin-alcohol
preservative and are hardened instraight and extended position. They are
then inserted in the glass tubes, the ends of which are sealed with cork or
rubber stoppers and coated with paraffin after the tubes have been
completely filled with the preserving solution."

There were several "formalin-alcohol preservative" mixtures that were
popular at the time, the idea being that you could reduce the two-steps of
fixation and preservation into one. These mixtures were not successful
because the chemical actions of the formaldehyde and alcohol interfered
with each other, resulting in uneven preservation as tissues were
dehydrated. For example, one mixture called for 95ml of 70% ETOH and 5 ml
of formaldehyde; another for 50 parts alcohol, 5 parts formaldehyde, and 45
parts water. It may also refer to what was more commonly called FAA, which
was formaldehyde, alcohol, and acetic acid.

You cannot tell just by looking what solution the specimens are in, but I
expect it is alcohol due to the discoloration (formaldehyde does not
extract lipids as readily as alcohol). However, I would handle these as if
they did contain formaldehyde and take appropriate precautions until you
are sure. The problem with re-housing the specimens will be that they are
going to be very stiff and it will be difficult to coil them up without
damaging them. If they are not leaking, and you do not need to remove the
specimens for examination, I would leave them as they are but house the
tubes in a way that will reduce the chance of breakage, such as in a box or
tray with half-rounds of cardboard to keep them from rolling or touching
each other. They are an excellent example of an old technique that was
rather quaint.

Any idea when the specimens were preserved?

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:02 PM Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to
> our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears
> to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid
> they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol.
>
> I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of
> preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more
> stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break.
> We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of
> preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can
> safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have
> included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly
> appreciated!
>
> Kind regards,
> Luisa
>
>
> --
> *Luisa Zamora Chavez *
> Pronouns: she/they
> Research Technician
> Arizona State University Biocollections
> Lzamorac at asu.edu
> 602-737-8357
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> Nhcoll-l mailing list
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>
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From abentley at ku.edu  Mon Feb 28 15:09:13 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 20:09:13 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
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I agree with John that these specimens will be difficult to house in any other way (in jars) due to their shape and fixation - unless they were only preserved in alcohol and can be manipulated (coiled).

For storage I would think the best option would be to get a block of ethafoam and using a hot wire or tool, create channels into which the tubes could be placed that will protect them from damage or breakage.  The ethafoam block could be placed into a drawer in a cabinet to protect from other agents of deterioration.

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of John E Simmons
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:00 PM
To: Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes

This technique was published in Turtox News 15(10:129 in October of 1937 in an anonymous short article with the title "A method of displaying snakes." The article includes a photograph of a rack holding a number of long tubes with preserved snakes stretched out in them, sent in by "Professor John M. Frazier of the State Teachers College, Hattiesburg Mississippi." Prof. Frazier reported that "The snakes are injected with formalin-alcohol preservative and are hardened instraight and extended position. They are then inserted in the glass tubes, the ends of which are sealed with cork or rubber stoppers and coated with paraffin after the tubes have been completely filled with the preserving solution."

There were several "formalin-alcohol preservative" mixtures that were popular at the time, the idea being that you could reduce the two-steps of fixation and preservation into one. These mixtures were not successful because the chemical actions of the formaldehyde and alcohol interfered with each other, resulting in uneven preservation as tissues were dehydrated. For example, one mixture called for 95ml of 70% ETOH and 5 ml of formaldehyde; another for 50 parts alcohol, 5 parts formaldehyde, and 45 parts water. It may also refer to what was more commonly called FAA, which was formaldehyde, alcohol, and acetic acid.

You cannot tell just by looking what solution the specimens are in, but I expect it is alcohol due to the discoloration (formaldehyde does not extract lipids as readily as alcohol). However, I would handle these as if they did contain formaldehyde and take appropriate precautions until you are sure. The problem with re-housing the specimens will be that they are going to be very stiff and it will be difficult to coil them up without damaging them. If they are not leaking, and you do not need to remove the specimens for examination, I would leave them as they are but house the tubes in a way that will reduce the chance of breakage, such as in a box or tray with half-rounds of cardboard to keep them from rolling or touching each other. They are an excellent example of an old technique that was rather quaint.

Any idea when the specimens were preserved?

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
and
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
and
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:02 PM Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu<mailto:lzamorac at asu.edu>> wrote:
Hello all,

I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol.

I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break. We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Luisa


--
Luisa Zamora Chavez
Pronouns: she/they
Research Technician
Arizona State University Biocollections
Lzamorac at asu.edu<mailto:Lzamorac at asu.edu>
602-737-8357
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From prc44 at drexel.edu  Mon Feb 28 15:47:28 2022
From: prc44 at drexel.edu (Callomon,Paul)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 20:47:28 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
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I?d be really careful trying to get those bungs out. The rubber tends to harden and weld itself to the glass. My recommendation would be to stand just the bung end of the tube in hot water for a few seconds, then hold the tube in a towel and try to twist the bung using a plumber?s wrench or channel-lock pliers. With any luck it will turn and twist out. Pulling directly is less likely to work, as there isn?t enough to pull on.
If the bung really will not budge, wrap the end of the tube in masking tape and gently crack it with a hammer.


Paul Callomon
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Simon Moore
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:31 PM
To: Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu>
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes


External.
Hi Luisa

You will need a blade to cut away the tape and an old fashioned type corkscrew to remove the bungs.
To test the fluid get some Schiff reagent to test for presence of formaldehyde. Extract a few drops of fluid in a beaker add a drop or two of Schiff and if it goes pink or magenta then it?s formalin if not then it?s likely alcohol
However the snakes look well preserved and unfaded, so I would question the need to rehouse them.

With all good wishes, Simon Moore.
Sent from my iPhone



On 28 Feb 2022, at 19:06, Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu<mailto:lzamorac at asu.edu>> wrote:
?
Hello all,

I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol.

I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break. We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Luisa


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From AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org  Mon Feb 28 15:54:02 2022
From: AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org (Anderson, Gretchen)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 20:54:02 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Seeking IPM Advice
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Hi Karen,

It is a lovely case. I can see why you want to keep it.  Do you see any pest evidence in the case or on the taxidermy?


I recommend that you clean it- inside and out - as best as you can.  Make sure that you clean the interior, getting into all of the crevices.  If you can remove the deck, remove it and clean it.  Use soft brushes and a vacuum cleaner (preferably a HEPA vacuum). Clean under it.  Examine it closely with a flashlight.  Close it up and put a trap (sticky trap/monitor) inside and under it.  Check the traps over the next few months.  A thorough cleaning should make the case useful and pest free.

Good luck!
Gretchen

Gretchen Anderson
Conservator
Carnegie Museum of Natural History
(Preferred  pronouns: she/her)
AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org<mailto:AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org>
Mobile: 412-420-9083




From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of KAREN DUBROFF
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:48 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Seeking IPM Advice

Dear all,

We recently accepted a transfer of a large taxidermy specimen and its case (see attached photo of the case). We were able to place the specimen in our isolation freezer, however, the case is too large to fit and cannot be sufficiently disassembled. Our exhibits team would like to keep the case for display at the museum. Unfortunately, the case was part of a display in a non-museum setting for well over a decade, which is concerning from an IPM perspective, specifically with the completely sealed, presumably hollow, base.

I'm thus coming to you for advice and recommendations regarding pest mitigation for the case.

Many thanks in advance,
Karen

Karen DuBroff
Associate Registrar, Loans and Exhibitions
Pronouns: she, her, hers

Natural History Museum of Utah
(801) 587-5774
University of Utah
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108




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Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 21:14:43 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
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The few I had were impossible to get open without breaking.  I think the latter suggestion by Paul will probably be the solution, unless you are really fortunate.

Good luck!

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Callomon,Paul
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To: Simon Moore <couteaufin at btinternet.com>; Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu>
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes

I?d be really careful trying to get those bungs out. The rubber tends to harden and weld itself to the glass. My recommendation would be to stand just the bung end of the tube in hot water for a few seconds, then hold the tube in a towel and try to twist the bung using a plumber?s wrench or channel-lock pliers. With any luck it will turn and twist out. Pulling directly is less likely to work, as there isn?t enough to pull on.
If the bung really will not budge, wrap the end of the tube in masking tape and gently crack it with a hammer.


Paul Callomon
Collection Manager, Malacology and General Invertebrates
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Simon Moore
Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:31 PM
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External.
Hi Luisa

You will need a blade to cut away the tape and an old fashioned type corkscrew to remove the bungs.
To test the fluid get some Schiff reagent to test for presence of formaldehyde. Extract a few drops of fluid in a beaker add a drop or two of Schiff and if it goes pink or magenta then it?s formalin if not then it?s likely alcohol
However the snakes look well preserved and unfaded, so I would question the need to rehouse them.

With all good wishes, Simon Moore.
Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Feb 2022, at 19:06, Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu<mailto:lzamorac at asu.edu>> wrote:
?
Hello all,

I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol.

I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break. We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly appreciated!

Kind regards,
Luisa


--
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Pronouns: she/they
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Arizona State University Biocollections
Lzamorac at asu.edu<mailto:Lzamorac at asu.edu>
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From neumann at snsb.de  Mon Feb 28 16:28:56 2022
From: neumann at snsb.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 22:28:56 +0100
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Seeking IPM Advice
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Hi Karen,

in Europe, several companies have specialised offering gentle heat 
treatment to valuable cultural objects to treat pests by using static 
warm-air chambers; more details can be found, e.g., here: 
https://www.thermolignum.com/en/home.html.

Used this method when treating the invested wood of our historic house 
(floorboards, beams),works quite well. Another option would be carbon 
dioxide treatment of the entrie cabinet: 
https://museumpests.net/solutions-controlled-atmospherecarbon-dioxide-treatment/

It might be worth checking if there are companies or other museums that 
operate such devices in your vicinity, e.g. to treat historic (invested) 
furniture or similarly large museum objects. Here in Munich, our museum 
offers such services to other museums and collections. Thus it might be 
worth searching.

Hope this helps
Dirk


Am 28.02.2022 um 21:54 schrieb Anderson, Gretchen:
>
> Hi Karen,
>
> It is a lovely case. I can see why you want to keep it. ?Do you see 
> any pest evidence in the case or on the taxidermy?
>
> I recommend that you clean it- inside and out ? as best as you can.? 
> Make sure that you clean the interior, getting into all of the 
> crevices.? If you can remove the deck, remove it and clean it.? Use 
> soft brushes and a vacuum cleaner (preferably a HEPA vacuum). Clean 
> under it. Examine it closely with a flashlight.? Close it up and put a 
> trap (sticky trap/monitor) inside and under it.? Check the traps over 
> the next few months.? A thorough cleaning should make the case useful 
> and pest free.
>
> Good luck!
> Gretchen
>
> *Gretchen Anderson***
>
> Conservator
>
> Carnegie Museum of Natural History
>
> (Preferred pronouns: she/her)
>
> AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org <mailto:AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org>
>
> Mobile: 412-420-9083
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of 
> *KAREN DUBROFF
> *Sent:* Monday, February 28, 2022 2:48 PM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Seeking IPM Advice
>
> Dear all,
>
> We recently accepted a transfer of a large taxidermy specimen and its 
> case (see attached photo of the case). We were able to place the 
> specimen in our isolation freezer, however, the case is too large to 
> fit and cannot be sufficiently disassembled. Our exhibits team would 
> like to keep the case for display at the museum. Unfortunately, the 
> case was part of a display in a non-museum setting for well over a 
> decade, which is concerning from an IPM perspective, specifically with 
> the completely sealed, presumably hollow, base.
>
> I?m thus coming to you for advice and recommendations regarding pest 
> mitigation for the case.
>
> Many thanks in advance,
>
> Karen
>
> Karen DuBroff
>
> Associate Registrar, Loans and Exhibitions
>
> Pronouns: she, her, hers
>
> Natural History Museum of Utah
>
> (801) 587-5774
>
> University of Utah
>
> 301 Wakara Way
>
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
>
>
>
>
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From jbandjb at live.com  Mon Feb 28 16:54:32 2022
From: jbandjb at live.com (James Bryant)
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All good tips. Geographically-speaking, where was the case previously? When you?re cleaning per Gretchen?s advice, look carefully for any traces of powdery wood dust, or tiny holes smaller than a pinhead. If there turns out to be a wood infestation, that could require the kind of treatments Dirk has mentioned.

Glad to hear you?re working to conserve both the mount and the original casework!

James Bryant
SOJOURN Science - Nature - Education
Santa Fe, NM
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> On Feb 28, 2022, at 2:28 PM, Dirk Neumann <neumann at snsb.de> wrote:
> 
> Hi Karen,
> 
> in Europe, several companies have specialised offering gentle heat treatment to valuable cultural objects to treat pests by using static warm-air chambers; more details can be found, e.g., here:https://www.thermolignum.com/en/home.html <https://www.thermolignum.com/en/home.html>.
> 
> Used this method when treating the invested wood of our historic house (floorboards, beams),works quite well. Another option would be carbon dioxide treatment of the entrie cabinet: https://museumpests.net/solutions-controlled-atmospherecarbon-dioxide-treatment/ <https://museumpests.net/solutions-controlled-atmospherecarbon-dioxide-treatment/>
> 
> It might be worth checking if there are companies or other museums that operate such devices in your vicinity, e.g. to treat historic (invested) furniture or similarly large museum objects. Here in Munich, our museum offers such services to other museums and collections. Thus it might be worth searching.
> 
> Hope this helps
> Dirk
> 
> 
> Am 28.02.2022 um 21:54 schrieb Anderson, Gretchen:
>> Hi Karen, 
>>  
>> It is a lovely case. I can see why you want to keep it.  Do you see any pest evidence in the case or on the taxidermy?
>>  
>>  
>> I recommend that you clean it- inside and out ? as best as you can.  Make sure that you clean the interior, getting into all of the crevices.  If you can remove the deck, remove it and clean it.  Use soft brushes and a vacuum cleaner (preferably a HEPA vacuum). Clean under it.  Examine it closely with a flashlight.  Close it up and put a trap (sticky trap/monitor) inside and under it.  Check the traps over the next few months.  A thorough cleaning should make the case useful and pest free.
>>  
>> Good luck!
>> Gretchen 
>>  
>> Gretchen Anderson
>> Conservator
>> Carnegie Museum of Natural History
>> (Preferred  pronouns: she/her)
>> AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org <mailto:AndersonG at CarnegieMNH.Org>
>> Mobile: 412-420-9083
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> <mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of KAREN DUBROFF
>> Sent: Monday, February 28, 2022 2:48 PM
>> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Seeking IPM Advice
>>  
>> Dear all, 
>>  
>> We recently accepted a transfer of a large taxidermy specimen and its case (see attached photo of the case). We were able to place the specimen in our isolation freezer, however, the case is too large to fit and cannot be sufficiently disassembled. Our exhibits team would like to keep the case for display at the museum. Unfortunately, the case was part of a display in a non-museum setting for well over a decade, which is concerning from an IPM perspective, specifically with the completely sealed, presumably hollow, base.
>>  
>> I?m thus coming to you for advice and recommendations regarding pest mitigation for the case.
>>  
>> Many thanks in advance,
>> Karen
>>  
>> Karen DuBroff
>> Associate Registrar, Loans and Exhibitions
>> Pronouns: she, her, hers
>>  
>> Natural History Museum of Utah
>> (801) 587-5774
>> University of Utah
>> 301 Wakara Way
>> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The information contained in this message and/or attachments is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any system and destroy any copies. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. 
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>> Natural History Collections (SPNHC), an international society whose
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>> natural history collections to ensure their continuing value to
>> society. See http://www.spnhc.org <http://www.spnhc.org/> for membership information.
>> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
> 
> -- 
> <33HzVI8grXpeg8w6.png>
> 
> 
> Dirk Neumann
> 
> Tel: 089 / 8107-111
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> neumann(a)snsb.de <http://snsb.de/>
> 
> Postanschrift:
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> M?nchhausenstr. 21
> 81247 M?nchen
> 
> Besuchen Sie unsere Sammlung:
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> 
> ---------
> 
> Dirk Neumann
> 
> Tel: +49-89-8107-111
> Fax: +49-89-8107-300
> neumann(a)snsb.de <http://snsb.de/>
> 
> postal address:
> 
> Bavarian Natural History Collections
> The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
> Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Storage
> Muenchhausenstr. 21
> 81247 Munich (Germany)
> 
> Visit our section at:
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From: jbandjb at live.com (James Bryant)
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Turtox! Fascinating, John. I agree that it would be useful to know how old these preparations might be. If they?ve remained stable this long, I can?t imagine there are many other reasons to disturb them.

Perhaps I?ve just not recalling things, but are there any instrumental methods to analyze the content of solutions used in fluid collections without disturbing the containers?

James Bryant
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> On Feb 28, 2022, at 1:00 PM, John E Simmons <simmons.johne at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This technique was published in Turtox News 15(10:129 in October of 1937 in an anonymous short article with the title "A method of displaying snakes." The article includes a photograph of a rack holding a number of long tubes with preserved snakes stretched out in them, sent in by "Professor John M. Frazier of the State Teachers College, Hattiesburg Mississippi." Prof. Frazier reported that "The snakes are injected with formalin-alcohol preservative and are hardened instraight and extended position. They are then inserted in the glass tubes, the ends of which are sealed with cork or rubber stoppers and coated with paraffin after the tubes have been completely filled with the preserving solution."
> 
> There were several "formalin-alcohol preservative" mixtures that were popular at the time, the idea being that you could reduce the two-steps of fixation and preservation into one. These mixtures were not successful because the chemical actions of the formaldehyde and alcohol interfered with each other, resulting in uneven preservation as tissues were dehydrated. For example, one mixture called for 95ml of 70% ETOH and 5 ml of formaldehyde; another for 50 parts alcohol, 5 parts formaldehyde, and 45 parts water. It may also refer to what was more commonly called FAA, which was formaldehyde, alcohol, and acetic acid.
> 
> You cannot tell just by looking what solution the specimens are in, but I expect it is alcohol due to the discoloration (formaldehyde does not extract lipids as readily as alcohol). However, I would handle these as if they did contain formaldehyde and take appropriate precautions until you are sure. The problem with re-housing the specimens will be that they are going to be very stiff and it will be difficult to coil them up without damaging them. If they are not leaking, and you do not need to remove the specimens for examination, I would leave them as they are but house the tubes in a way that will reduce the chance of breakage, such as in a box or tray with half-rounds of cardboard to keep them from rolling or touching each other. They are an excellent example of an old technique that was rather quaint.
> 
> Any idea when the specimens were preserved?
> 
> --John
> 
> John E. Simmons
> Writer and Museum Consultant
> Museologica
> and
> Associate Curator of Collections
> Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
> Penn State University
> and
> Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
> Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima
> 
> 
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:02 PM Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu <mailto:lzamorac at asu.edu>> wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol. 
> 
> I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break. We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly appreciated!  
> 
> Kind regards,
> Luisa
> 
> 
> -- 
> Luisa Zamora Chavez 
> Pronouns: she/they
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> Arizona State University Biocollections
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From: simmons.johne at gmail.com (John E Simmons)
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2022 17:06:56 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on removing specimens from glass tubes
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A recent paper has reported on the use of Raman spectrometry for this
purpose, but you need the right lab equipment to do use it. Sophie Cersoy
demonstrated the technique for us in Paris during the 2018 fluid collection
conference, and her paper is now available:

S. Cersoy, V. Rouchon, O. Belhadj, J. Cuisin, and M. Herbin. 2020.
Noninvasive fluid identification: potential of micro-Raman
spectroscopy. *Collection
Forum* 34(1):53-72

--John

John E. Simmons
Writer and Museum Consultant
Museologica
*and*
Associate Curator of Collections
Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
Penn State University
*and*
Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima


On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 5:00 PM James Bryant <jbandjb at live.com> wrote:

> Turtox! Fascinating, John. I agree that it would be useful to know how old
> these preparations might be. If they?ve remained stable this long, I can?t
> imagine there are many other reasons to disturb them.
>
> Perhaps I?ve just not recalling things, but are there any instrumental
> methods to analyze the content of solutions used in fluid collections
> without disturbing the containers?
>
> James Bryant
> SOJOURN Science - Nature - Education
> Santa Fe, NM
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-bryant-0598a940/
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2022, at 1:00 PM, John E Simmons <simmons.johne at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> This technique was published in Turtox News 15(10:129 in October of 1937
> in an anonymous short article with the title "A method of displaying
> snakes." The article includes a photograph of a rack holding a number of
> long tubes with preserved snakes stretched out in them, sent in by
> "Professor John M. Frazier of the State Teachers College, Hattiesburg
> Mississippi." Prof. Frazier reported that "The snakes are injected with
> formalin-alcohol preservative and are hardened instraight and extended
> position. They are then inserted in the glass tubes, the ends of which are
> sealed with cork or rubber stoppers and coated with paraffin after the
> tubes have been completely filled with the preserving solution."
>
> There were several "formalin-alcohol preservative" mixtures that were
> popular at the time, the idea being that you could reduce the two-steps of
> fixation and preservation into one. These mixtures were not successful
> because the chemical actions of the formaldehyde and alcohol interfered
> with each other, resulting in uneven preservation as tissues were
> dehydrated. For example, one mixture called for 95ml of 70% ETOH and 5 ml
> of formaldehyde; another for 50 parts alcohol, 5 parts formaldehyde, and 45
> parts water. It may also refer to what was more commonly called FAA, which
> was formaldehyde, alcohol, and acetic acid.
>
> You cannot tell just by looking what solution the specimens are in, but I
> expect it is alcohol due to the discoloration (formaldehyde does not
> extract lipids as readily as alcohol). However, I would handle these as if
> they did contain formaldehyde and take appropriate precautions until you
> are sure. The problem with re-housing the specimens will be that they are
> going to be very stiff and it will be difficult to coil them up without
> damaging them. If they are not leaking, and you do not need to remove the
> specimens for examination, I would leave them as they are but house the
> tubes in a way that will reduce the chance of breakage, such as in a box or
> tray with half-rounds of cardboard to keep them from rolling or touching
> each other. They are an excellent example of an old technique that was
> rather quaint.
>
> Any idea when the specimens were preserved?
>
> --John
>
> John E. Simmons
> Writer and Museum Consultant
> Museologica
> *and*
> Associate Curator of Collections
> Earth and Mineral Science Museum & Art Gallery
> Penn State University
> *and*
> Investigador Asociado, Departamento de Ornitologia
> Museo de Historia Natural, Universidad Nacional Mayor de San Marcos, Lima
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 2:02 PM Luisa Zamora Chavez <lzamorac at asu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have a few liquid-preserved snakes in glass tubes that were donated to
>> our collections sometime ago. The tubes are sealed shut using what appears
>> to be plastic corks, tape, and sealant. We're not sure if the liquid
>> they're in is formalin or something other than ethanol.
>>
>> I am wondering if anyone has had any experience with this sort of
>> preservation and any advice on how to transfer the specimens to a more
>> stable mode? We'd like to keep some of them but fear the tubes might break.
>> We are unsure of what liquid is typically used for this type of
>> preservation and would like to be as prepared as possible so we can
>> safely remove them from the tubes (if that is at all possible). I have
>> included some pictures of the specimens for reference. Any help is greatly
>> appreciated!
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Luisa
>>
>>
>> --
>> *Luisa Zamora Chavez *
>> Pronouns: she/they
>> Research Technician
>> Arizona State University Biocollections
>> Lzamorac at asu.edu
>> 602-737-8357
>> _______________________________________________
>> Nhcoll-l mailing list
>> Nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>> https://mailman.yale.edu/mailman/listinfo/nhcoll-l
>>
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>> mission is to improve the preservation, conservation and management of
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>> society. See http://www.spnhc.org for membership information.
>> Advertising on NH-COLL-L is inappropriate.
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