[Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol

Hawks, Catharine HawksC at si.edu
Tue Feb 8 05:58:11 EST 2022


One thing to keep in mind is that glycerin is extremely hygroscopic. If you cannot obtain a excellent seal on the container, the glycerin will rapidly take up moisture from the ambient air, diluting the solution. It will also take up any contaminants in the air, no matter what their sources. It tends to become acidic as a consequence.

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of John E Simmons
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Formalin in exhibition instead of ethanol

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A few caveats about glycerin:

Before committing to putting a large squid in glycerin, you should test how it will behave due to the difference in density between alcohol (0.890 g/cm3) vs. glycerin (at 100%, it is 1.26 g/cm3, though of course diluted to 60% will be a bit less). This may be important due to the density of the specimen itself compared to the density of vertebrate specimens stored in glycerin.

As you work on the design for the new exhibit, don't forget that due to its density, the volume of glycerin will be a lot heavier than a similar volume of alcohol. In a large aquarium-type exhibition this weight difference may affect seams and seals.

Lastly, mold in the glycerin is not the only thing you have to worry about--don't forget bacterial infestations. Using some sort of biocide as a preventive measure may be necessary (traditionally thymol has been used, but as Simon Moore has pointed out, you can use less dangerous chemicals such as camphor as well). The other aspect of contamination is that if the seal on the container is faulty so that it admits mold spores or bacteria, in a humid environment the hygroscopic glycerin can absorb enough moisture to overflow the container. In a previous job I had to to take care of a collection of about 3,000 cleared-and-stained specimens stored in glycerin, and even though there was next to no loss due to evaporation, during a humid summer we could always count on a few containers overflowing (we had no mold or bacterial issues becaused thymol as a biocide).

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On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 12:47 PM Dirk Neumann <neumann at snsb.de<mailto:neumann at snsb.de>> wrote:
Hi Bo,

maybe a comment pointing into a slightly different direction (similar to what colleagues did in Berlin), as you mentioned you are planning for a major renovation of your exhibitions:

An alternative would be to have a cabinet that is "inaccessible" for visitors and equipped with necessary installations to comply with fire-safety regulations (like a tank in an public aquarium). Thus the specimen would be visible for the visitors, the container as such however would not be part of the publicly accessible visitor space. This could help to avoid transferring the specimen into a different fluid, potentially causing secondary conservation problems.

At the MfN in Berlin they used this alternative to make the fluid collections accessible and discoverable for visitors, while keeping the visitor and collection space simultaneously strictly separated. They also used this concept for a huge glass cabinet that shows a large diversity of collection objects on display, including fluid-preserved specimens.

Maybe worth a thought ...

With best wishes
Dirk


Am 04.02.2022 um 16:40 schrieb Bo Delling:
Hi again,

Thank you all for detailed and interesting information on this topic. Glycerol seems to be very interesting making nice specimens for exhibitions if you have fresh specimens with nice color. I will try it in the future for some small richly coloured fish. Is it correct that if you keep the concentration at 65% you don't run in to problems with mould?

Regarding our squid(s) they aren't that nice and if we can't continue with ethanol I think we transfer selected specimen to a formalin solution after all (Jon, thank you for the publication with relevant references). James, I will check if we have any pictures and size estimates. The length of the mantel is about 1 m for both specimens. Ironically, the one we had for display is the one in worst condition (in several pieces, semi rotten I would say) collected close to Scotland around 1990 or so. The other one was collected by a shrimp trawler from Sweden in 1960 and this specimen have commonly been referred to as "the green squid" . Initially it was stored in a tank made of cupper. Nevertheless it's in much better physical condition and consequently we will continue having a giant squid on display but not the same specimen.

Cheers,

Bo


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Dear all,
Up to recently we had a giant squid Architeuthis sp. in exhibition ("Liv in Vatten" = Life in Water/Aquatic life). It was contained in an aquarium, 80% ethanol (650 liters!). For the moment, we are planning for thorough modernization, i.e. the exhibition will be rebuilt from scratch but we wish to keep the squid. It is very popular. However, we might face problems regarding fire safety regulations and one idea that came up was to transfer the specimen to weak formalin solution (1%).
-Anyone having any experience and perhaps suggestions regarding concentration and suitable buffer?
My limited experience is based on museum specimens (mainly fishes) that previously were in the old NRM exhibitions. I come across them now and then in the scientific collection and according to older documents, the ethanol was replaced with formalin around 1960 because the expense. Anyway, this old exhibition jars with specimens look very nice (except for bleaching of specimens) and the fluid (formalin solution) looks like clear water.
All the best,
Bo


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