[Nhcoll-l] ΑΠ: Advice on estimating the value of donated collections?
Battermann, Nora
battermann at snsb.de
Wed Mar 9 06:49:19 EST 2022
Dear Gavin,
thanks for your input! Would love to see the guidelines (tried to
contact you off list but my email won't go through for some reason)!
Cheers,
Nora
Am 2022-03-09 11:00, schrieb Gavin Dally:
> Hi all,
>
> In Australian museums, as there is no commercial value, we use a
> recollection cost method to value collections. Theoretically how much
> does it cost to go in the field, preserve, curate, document, store etc
> a specimen. A premium is added for remote locations and types.
>
> It has been very useful in showing administrators how valuable and
> irreplaceable the collections actually are.
>
> Let me know off-list if you would like the valuation guidelines.
>
> Cheers,
> Gavin
>
> Gavin Dally
>
> Senior Collections Manager, Natural Sciences
>
> Museum and Art Gallery of the Northern Territory
>
> magnt.net.au [1]
>
> street address: 19 Conacher St, The Gardens, Darwin, NT 0820
> Australia | postal address: GPO Box 4646, Darwin, NT 0801 Australia
>
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>
>> On 9 Mar 2022, at 6:20 pm, Battermann, Nora <battermann at snsb.de>
>> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> thanks for your replies so far. I fully agree with Maria - it would
>> be incredibly useful to establish a method for estimating the value
>> of natural history collections. Obviously, the value is
>> infinite/impossible to measure but unfortunately there are instances
>> in which we need to put a number on the value of a collection - be
>> that insurance, posting/taxes, buying/selling or, at least in
>> Germany for tax purposes, donation receipts.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>> Nora
>>
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>> Am 2022-03-09 08:11, schrieb Maria Dimaki:
>>
>>> Dear all,
>>
>>> indeed, it is a very interesting subject! The last years, I am
>>> asked
>>
>>> about the economic value of specimens or collections. Usually from
>>
>>> donators, for insurance, or other administrative reasons. My
>>> answer is
>>
>>> always that each specimen is priceless and that it is impossible
>>> to
>>
>>> define the value of a natural history museum collection in euros.
>>
>>> If the person insists, I answer that is definitely not our job to
>>
>>> “tag” a prize on specimens or collection and he should address
>>> to
>>
>>> the tax office (and I am sure that they know nothing on the
>>> subject,
>>
>>> in Greece).
>>
>>> For some time know, I believe that, we should establish a method
>>> to
>>
>>> estimate the value of Natural History Collections based on their
>>
>>> scientific, cultural and educational value, by using appropriate
>>
>>> criteria and a scoring system.
>>
>>> Best wishes
>>
>>> Maria
>>
>>> Dr. Maria Dimaki
>>
>>> Collections Manager
>>
>>> In Charge of the Department of Terrestrial Zoology
>>
>>> Goulandris Natural History Museum
>>
>>> 100, Othonos St. Kifissia, GR 145 62, Greece
>>
>>> Από: Dirk Neumann
>>
>>> Αποστολή: Τρίτη, 8 Μαρτίου 2022 7:39 μμ
>>
>>> Προς: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
>>
>>> Θέμα: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Advice on estimating the value of donated
>>
>>> collections?
>>
>>> Dear Hannu,
>>
>>> 1€ would be better; within the EU (and the single market) you
>>> have
>>
>>> no customs borders anyway, and if you need to send materials to
>>
>>> Norway, Switzerland or Iceland, 1€ would be preferable to avoid
>>
>>> import taxes. Usually, the threshold for import tax is low (until
>>> the
>>
>>> most recent amendment this year, the minor threshold value was
>>> 22€).
>>
>>> Colleagues were charged recently few cent because the declared
>>> value
>>
>>> was 5€ ...
>>
>>> With best wishes
>>
>>> Dirk
>>
>>> Am 08.03.2022 um 12:48 schrieb Hannu Saarenmaa:
>> The answer is "nil". In computer science terms that means it does
>
>>> not exist. Nil also means "infinite".
>
>>> Museum objects are irreplaceable. So there is no commercial value.
>
>>> Or something that can be insured. Natural science collections
>>> cannot
>
>>> be insured.
>
>>> My company bioshare.com regularly sends collections over the
>
>>> European Union border, for digitization, that is. While doing
>>> that,
>
>>> we have to put something in the customs forms. And to inform our
>
>>> insurance company. So we put there the value of the paper sheets
>
>>> which carry the [invaluable] herbarium sheets, or other objects.
>
>>> That currently is 28€ per specimen. Do not laugh. This is how
>>> it
>
>>> works.
>
>>> Anyway, I still prefer to report "nil" or zero value for the
>
>>> irreplaceable. If I can.
>
>>> Hannu Saarenmaa www.bioshare.com [1]
>
>>> On 2022-03-08 11:42, Battermann, Nora wrote:
>
>>> Dear all,
>
>>> I thought this a very interesting discussion but understand that
>>> it
>
>>> mainly concerned US institutions. I'd be interested to hear from
>
>>> European institutions too - how do you estimate the values of
>
>>> donated collections? I am not aware of a list of appraisers who
>
>>> specialize in natural history collections in Germany for example
>>> and
>
>>> wonder how other institutions handle acquisitions, especially
>
>>> donations.
>
>>> Greetings from sunny Munich,
>
>>> Nora
>
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>>> Dr. Nora Battermann
>
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>>> Am 2022-02-28 19:50, schrieb Tacker, Christopher:
>
>>> Everyone has offered good advice here.
>
>>> Apart from conflicts of interest, the one that does the appraisal
>
>>> stands to get involved with the state or federal tax enforcement.
>>> If
>
>>> the appraisal is called into question, that represents a nearly
>
>>> limitless time sink in hearings or in court.
>
>>> We tell donors that we will work with whatever appraiser they
>
>>> designate. We still get offers of "I'll donate this if you'll get
>>> me
>
>>> an appraisal for X amount of money." That's a big "no, thank you."
>
>>> Chris Tacker
>
>>> Chris Tacker, Ph.D., P.G.
>
>>> Research Curator of Geology
>
>>> North Carolina Museum of Natural Sciences
>
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>>> Taylor, Sarah <sarah.taylor at uconn.edu>
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>>> Good morning all,
>
>>> A colleague at a regional museum reached out to ask me for advice
>>> on
>
>>> how to estimate the value of a collection of donated birds (mostly
>
>>> skins, some taxidermy mounts). He’s not interested in individual
>
>>> values for each piece, but a big picture “lump sum.” I’m
>>> sure
>
>>> this has come up on the listserve before, but I haven’t been
>>> able
>
>>> to
>
>>> locate it. If anyone has ideas or can point me in the direction of
>>> a
>
>>> resource to send to my colleague, I’d really appreciate it! I
>>> have
>
>>> no appraisal skills myself – and I’m a botanist – so I’m
>>> at
>
>>> a
>
>>> total loss on my end.
>
>>> Cheers,
>
>>> Sarah
>
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>>> Sarah Taylor, PhD
>
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>
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>
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>
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