From Tonya.Haff at csiro.au  Sun May  1 19:54:23 2022
From: Tonya.Haff at csiro.au (Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace))
Date: Sun, 1 May 2022 23:54:23 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] prepping frozen herps
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Dear all,

Thank you so much for your great and detailed advice on preserving frozen herp specimens, I really appreciate it. I think we will take it on a specimen by specimen basis as to how to preserve the specimen (in spirit or as a skeleton). Thank you especially John for your very detailed and thoughtful explanations of what's going on with frozen specimens and what to look out for. It's an interesting point to note in the records that tissue is from a frozen specimen and so degraded. We tissue frozen specimen salvaged specimens all the time of other taxa (birds and mammals). We don't note it specifically in the database, but how the specimen was collected (salvaged) is noted, so the user should suspect tissue degradation. In general I believe this hasn't been a big problem for many uses requiring only short DNA fragments, although increasingly people are wanting higher quality (and greater quantity) of tissue. Anyway, thank you all so much (as usual) for your awesome feedback!

Cheers,

Tonya


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All excellent advice, I?d only add that you should also pay close attention to the defrosting process. Much like with seafood and fresh fish, you want to defrost in such a way that tissues are not frozen deep inside while the outside is already decaying by rotting or worse, drying. This can happen when defrosting in a hot water bath or leaving specimens in a fume hood overnight. We salvaged an old refrigerator for our lab for the very purpose of defrosting specimens.



cheers, Tom



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Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2022 8:31
To: Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace) <Tonya.Haff at csiro.au>
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  [EXTERNAL]

As others have mentioned, fixing and preserving frozen herps is common practice in herpetological collections. I concur with Andy that you want to be extra diligent with injecting formalin, and also making incisions to allow the formalin adequate access to internal tissues (especially for larger snakes and lizards). As soon as the specimen has started to get a little bit rigid, move it to a formalin bath and keep it in the formalin bath longer than you would for fresh material. Obviously, take tissue samples prior to formalin exposure. With a bit of extra attention during formalin exposure, the resulting specimen will be suitable for all standard research requests (including things like histological examination of gonads). The most challenging thing is to get enough formalin exposure to fully preserve the inside of the GI tract so that dissection for GI parasites isn't complicated by a decomposing gut lining, but I've found this is doable even for larger turtles and snakes as long as you thoroughly inject and move to the formalin bath quickly (I aim for starting at least a partial formalin bath within 8-12 hours).



Greg



On Tue, Apr 26, 2022 at 9:26 PM Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace) <Tonya.Haff at csiro.au<mailto:Tonya.Haff at csiro.au>> wrote:

Hello all,



I have read (in John Simmon?s book on herpetological collecting, among other places) that frozen snake and lizard specimens do not make suitable formalin-preserved specimens, and should be instead skeletonised. We have quite a few herp specimens in the freezer that we have been planning on prepping as ?pickles? (fixed in formalin and then stored in ETOH), but  I haven?t started yet because of the concern that it may not be worthwhile. I wonder if any of you could weigh in on this and tell me what your experiences have been, and whether or not you would bother preserving these specimens in spirit, or if we should just prep them as skeletons?



Thanks!



Tonya



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From cwthomp at umich.edu  Mon May  2 16:44:35 2022
From: cwthomp at umich.edu (Cody Thompson)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 16:44:35 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Special Provision A180
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Colleagues:

I recently had a package kicked back from me by UPS.  The specimens were
ethanol-preserved vouchers that were packed according to special provision
A180.  The box was also labeled as follows:

*Scientific research specimens not restricted, special provision A180
applies.*


However, UPS rejected the package for the following reason:

*Package marking says "Scientific research specimens not restricted,
special provision A180 applies", however the same information is not
presented on the thermal label.*


This is the first time I have had this problem in 9 years.  In fact, I had
another package with fluid-preserved specimens sent the next day that is
enroute to the same recipient.

Has anyone had a similar experience with UPS or any other courier?  If so,
any potential solutions would be helpful.

Thanks,
Cody

Cody W. Thompson, PhD
Mammal Collections Manager
& Assistant Research Scientist
University of Michigan
Museum of Zoology
3600 Varsity Drive
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
Office: (734) 615-2810
Fax: (734) 763-4080
Email: cwthomp at umich.edu
Website: codythompson.org

In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the UMMZ/Herbarium has limited
personnel available working onsite. No loan returns should be shipped
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staff. Please expect delayed responses. We apologize for any inconvenience
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From abentley at ku.edu  Mon May  2 18:01:40 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Mon, 2 May 2022 22:01:40 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Special Provision A180
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Cody

There is no such requirement in the dangerous good regs but that does not mean that UPS or others do not have other rules regarding labeling.  I have never had a package returned or delayed due to this in the past although we rarely send anything UPS ? usually FedEx.  I can reach out to my UPS contact to see if this is indeed something we should be doing in future and will let you know what I hear.

Andy

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Cody Thompson <cwthomp at umich.edu>
Date: Monday, May 2, 2022 at 3:45 PM
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Special Provision A180

Colleagues:

I recently had a package kicked back from me by UPS.  The specimens were ethanol-preserved vouchers that were packed according to special provision A180.  The box was also labeled as follows:
Scientific research specimens not restricted, special provision A180 applies.

However, UPS rejected the package for the following reason:
Package marking says "Scientific research specimens not restricted, special provision A180 applies", however the same information is not presented on the thermal label.

This is the first time I have had this problem in 9 years.  In fact, I had another package with fluid-preserved specimens sent the next day that is enroute to the same recipient.

Has anyone had a similar experience with UPS or any other courier?  If so, any potential solutions would be helpful.

Thanks,
Cody

Cody W. Thompson, PhD
Mammal Collections Manager
& Assistant Research Scientist
University of Michigan
Museum of Zoology
3600 Varsity Drive
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
Office: (734) 615-2810
Fax: (734) 763-4080
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From ges at umich.edu  Mon May  2 20:43:01 2022
From: ges at umich.edu (Gregory Schneider)
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Nope. Never. What did UPS say when you called them?

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 2, 2022, at 6:02 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Cody
>  
> There is no such requirement in the dangerous good regs but that does not mean that UPS or others do not have other rules regarding labeling.  I have never had a package returned or delayed due to this in the past although we rarely send anything UPS ? usually FedEx.  I can reach out to my UPS contact to see if this is indeed something we should be doing in future and will let you know what I hear.
>  
> Andy
>  
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> USA
> 
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
> Fax: (785) 864-5335 
> Email: abentley at ku.edu  
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> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Cody Thompson <cwthomp at umich.edu>
> Date: Monday, May 2, 2022 at 3:45 PM
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Special Provision A180
>  
> Colleagues:
> 
> I recently had a package kicked back from me by UPS.  The specimens were ethanol-preserved vouchers that were packed according to special provision A180.  The box was also labeled as follows:
> 
> Scientific research specimens not restricted, special provision A180 applies.
>  
> However, UPS rejected the package for the following reason:
> 
> Package marking says "Scientific research specimens not restricted, special provision A180 applies", however the same information is not presented on the thermal label.
>  
> This is the first time I have had this problem in 9 years.  In fact, I had another package with fluid-preserved specimens sent the next day that is enroute to the same recipient.
>  
> Has anyone had a similar experience with UPS or any other courier?  If so, any potential solutions would be helpful.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cody
> 
> Cody W. Thompson, PhD
> Mammal Collections Manager
> & Assistant Research Scientist
> University of Michigan
> Museum of Zoology
> 3600 Varsity Drive
> Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108
> Office: (734) 615-2810
> Fax: (734) 763-4080
> Email: cwthomp at umich.edu
> Website: codythompson.org
>  
> In response to the COVID-19 pandemic, the UMMZ/Herbarium has limited personnel available working onsite. No loan returns should be shipped without prior notification, and collection visits, loan requests, gifts, exchanges, etc. should be coordinated with the appropriate curatorial staff. Please expect delayed responses. We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.
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From emily.braker at colorado.edu  Tue May  3 10:43:47 2022
From: emily.braker at colorado.edu (Emily M. Braker)
Date: Tue, 3 May 2022 14:43:47 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Webinar (May 10) - Managing Parasite, Pathogen,
 and Host Data in Arctos
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Please join us Tuesday, May 10  for a webinar on Managing Parasite, Pathogen and Host Data in Arctos.

Presenters: Mariel Campbell, Sara Brant, Andrew Doll, Gabor Racz

Abstract: This webinar will address challenges in managing parasite collections and data in natural history collections and will review the suite of tools in the Arctos Collection Management System  (https://arctosdb.org/) that enable management and data linkage of parasites, pathogens, and hosts. One of the primary challenges to managing parasites in any museum collection management system is that parasite specimens have typically been archived in separate collections from the host specimen. Similarly, pathogen specimens, samples, and data have been collected and managed by public health and wildlife disease surveillance researchers, organizations, and databases not historically integrated with museums. Yet host specimens and associated archives managed in natural history museums provide a critical resource to validate the identification, taxonomy, collecting event, and provenance of hosts, parasites and pathogens. Parasites, pathogens, and hosts share a common collecting event, which can be tracked through assigning a unique identifier at the time of collection to follow all derivate specimens and samples as they are processed and archived in separate collections. This webinar will review Arctos tools that enable 1) sharing of collector and collecting event identifiers between parasites and hosts; 2) creation of reciprocal url-based relationships between parasites and hosts archived in the same collection, in different Arctos collections and institutions, and with external institutions and databases; 3) documenting host and parasite relationships when voucher specimens for one or the other were not preserved; 4) testing for presence of different parasites/pathogens, including the ability to document presence/absence; and 5) search and discovery of host/parasite/pathogen relationships in Arctos and through partner databases such as GloBI (https://www.globalbioticinteractions.org/).
When: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 3:00pm ET/1:00pm MT (19:00 UTC)
Where: https://cuboulder.zoom.us/j/92851568323 (passcode: arctos)

Can't Make It?: This webinar will be recorded and made available on the Arctos Youtube station: https://arctosdb.org/learn/webinars/
Best,
Emily

Emily Braker
Vertebrate Collections Manager, Zoology Section
University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
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From BarkerK at si.edu  Wed May  4 17:59:19 2022
From: BarkerK at si.edu (Barker, Katharine B.)
Date: Wed, 4 May 2022 21:59:19 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Contracting Opportunity: Genomics SharePoint Website
 Content Research,
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Dear Colleagues,

The Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History is seeking an independent contractor to provide professional, technical, non-personal services to the Smithsonian Institution, NMNH ADCS office associated with the creation of a new NMNH Genomics SharePoint website including content research, organization, and coordination. The work shall be completed within nine months of the contract start date.

The NMNH Genomics community wants to create an internal information clearinghouse and searchable portal that centralizes the fragmented knowledge base of the NMNH Genomics community. It will contain genomics community profiles, calendars of internal seminars, journal clubs and internal educational opportunities, and finally links to external workshops and resources. The aim of this site is to facilitate scientific discovery by bringing together those in the community with complimentary skill sets.
The hosted content will reside on the NMNH intranet known as Darwin at Darwin.si.edu, which is built and managed on the MS SharePoint Online platform.

This site will be managed by the office of the NMNH Associate Director for Science and Chief Scientist (ADCS) with technical and development support provided by the NMNH IT Office Web Branch.

Qualified individuals are invited to review the attached Request for Quotes (RFQ) and Statement of Work (SOW) for specifics. Details on what to include in the quote package and how to submit it are available in the RFQ.

Skill sets of qualified individuals include:

? Familiarity with genomics

? Excellent communication and organizational skills

? Ability to manage data and come up with standardized responses

? Good interpersonal skills

? Ability to motivate the community to participate

? Skilled with web content management systems and content migration strategies

? Familiar with user-focused website navigation and content organization

Responses are due Friday, June 3, at 5pm EST. Applicants should register as a federal contractor in the System for Award Management (SAM)<https://sam.gov/> concurrently to responding to the RFQ.

Please forward this announcement to any qualified candidates who might be interested. Feel free to contact me if there are any questions.

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From Tonya.Haff at csiro.au  Wed May  4 21:32:42 2022
From: Tonya.Haff at csiro.au (Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace))
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 01:32:42 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
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Hi again,

I do have one question regarding stainless steel tanks, for those of you who use them. Even the smaller ones I assume are quite heavy. Where do you store them, and how do you access them? Do you have specially ventilated areas for them, etc? Right now we try to do our work in a fume hood because of formalin fumes (some of our more historic specimens have very high formalin concentrations). I would love to know how or if people deal with this in their daily operations.

Thanks again!

Tonya

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Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 2:29 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [ExternalEmail] [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc

Hello all,

I am trying to figure out a nice solution for housing larger specimens. Right now we have them stored in either old canning jars (really rammed in, not great), or in buckets (don't seal properly and aren't archival) or drums with rubber (?) gaskets (they seem to leak when you tip them, no matter how much they are tightened). I really want a good, leak-proof or at least minimising solution, and I feel I haven't found it yet. It's really frustrating - the drums are even made for brewing, so you would think they would form a nice seal, but they don't seem to. If any of you have a solution you like for housing medium to larger specimens (and I actually mean anything over a 2L jar), or a solution for making gasketed drums work, I would love to hear it.

Thank you!

Cheers,

Tonya

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Collection Manager
Australian National Wildlife Collection
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From D.Neumann at leibniz-lib.de  Thu May  5 02:21:33 2022
From: D.Neumann at leibniz-lib.de (Dirk Neumann)
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
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Hi Tonya,

if you consider rectangular stainless steel tanks, the design of the closure of the tank needs some attention to avoid condensation-moisture to get into contact with the seal/gasket of the tank.

An inner T-shaped welding serving as drainboard keeps the seal dry and prevents deterioration. Regarding the fumes, you could consider flexible extraction arms like these https://www.nederman.com/en-au/products/capture-and-extraction-units
For the ventilation of the room where you keep the tanks one solution could be to design the entire room as a wet-lab workspace, i.e. to consider higher ventilation rates (which of cause has pros and cons). But this setup in principle is used in the tank room at the NHM in London, the USNM has chosen a similar set up. Might be worth asking the colleagues there directly, in case they wouldn't chip in to this thread.

Hope this helps
Dirk

Von: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> Im Auftrag von Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 5. Mai 2022 03:33
An: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Betreff: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc

Hi again,

I do have one question regarding stainless steel tanks, for those of you who use them. Even the smaller ones I assume are quite heavy. Where do you store them, and how do you access them? Do you have specially ventilated areas for them, etc? Right now we try to do our work in a fume hood because of formalin fumes (some of our more historic specimens have very high formalin concentrations). I would love to know how or if people deal with this in their daily operations.

Thanks again!

Tonya

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 2:29 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [ExternalEmail] [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc

Hello all,

I am trying to figure out a nice solution for housing larger specimens. Right now we have them stored in either old canning jars (really rammed in, not great), or in buckets (don't seal properly and aren't archival) or drums with rubber (?) gaskets (they seem to leak when you tip them, no matter how much they are tightened). I really want a good, leak-proof or at least minimising solution, and I feel I haven't found it yet. It's really frustrating - the drums are even made for brewing, so you would think they would form a nice seal, but they don't seem to. If any of you have a solution you like for housing medium to larger specimens (and I actually mean anything over a 2L jar), or a solution for making gasketed drums work, I would love to hear it.

Thank you!

Cheers,

Tonya

-------------------------------------------------
Dr. Tonya M. Haff
Collection Manager
Australian National Wildlife Collection
CSIRO

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From abentley at ku.edu  Thu May  5 10:21:15 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 14:21:15 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
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Tonya

The tanks we get from Delta Designs have a dolly with wheels so that the tanks can be easily moved from one location to another.  All of our tanks are stored under shelving units in our wet collection storage facility.  We can wheel them up to our wet lab for opening and specimen retrieval or can open them up "in situ" thanks to our dedicated HVAC system that removes any vapors from the air.  We will usually open them up and step away for a couple of seconds to allow for any buildup of vapors within the head space of the tank to dissipate before using the tank.

I agree that a "snorkel" unit is a great solution for a wet lab facility to effectively extract fumes from tanks but these can be expensive to install.

Andy
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Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>

Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Sent: Wednesday, May 4, 2022 8:33 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc

Hi again,

I do have one question regarding stainless steel tanks, for those of you who use them. Even the smaller ones I assume are quite heavy. Where do you store them, and how do you access them? Do you have specially ventilated areas for them, etc? Right now we try to do our work in a fume hood because of formalin fumes (some of our more historic specimens have very high formalin concentrations). I would love to know how or if people deal with this in their daily operations.

Thanks again!

Tonya

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 2:29 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [ExternalEmail] [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc

Hello all,

I am trying to figure out a nice solution for housing larger specimens. Right now we have them stored in either old canning jars (really rammed in, not great), or in buckets (don't seal properly and aren't archival) or drums with rubber (?) gaskets (they seem to leak when you tip them, no matter how much they are tightened). I really want a good, leak-proof or at least minimising solution, and I feel I haven't found it yet. It's really frustrating - the drums are even made for brewing, so you would think they would form a nice seal, but they don't seem to. If any of you have a solution you like for housing medium to larger specimens (and I actually mean anything over a 2L jar), or a solution for making gasketed drums work, I would love to hear it.

Thank you!

Cheers,

Tonya

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Dr. Tonya M. Haff
Collection Manager
Australian National Wildlife Collection
CSIRO

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From ges at umich.edu  Thu May  5 11:00:13 2022
From: ges at umich.edu (Gregory Schneider)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 11:00:13 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
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When we moved to our Research Museum Center (RMC) facility, the project
purchased 1000 stainless steel tanks, custom made for us by Great Lakes
Steel Manufacturing, (but using the Delta Design tanks as a model).  They
were, in my opinion, superior to Delta because the gasket channel and
gasket material is better and especially because the closing latches are
more heavy duty. They are stored on tank "stands" on our compact shelving
units. We use a battery operated walk behind forklift to lift them from the
shelf onto a rolling flatbed cart so they can be opened in the lab for
examination of specimens.  There is an example at the end of this youtube
video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITMJ4TNe2O8

[image: image.png]



Greg Schneider
Division of Reptiles and Amphibians
Museum of Zoology
Research Museums Center
3600 Varsity Drive
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan 48108

734 647 1927

ges at umich.edu



[image: Description: Description: logocolor]

www.ummz.lsa.umich.edu/rep_amph/index.html


On Thu, May 5, 2022 at 10:21 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
wrote:

> Tonya
>
>
>
> The tanks we get from Delta Designs have a dolly with wheels so that the
> tanks can be easily moved from one location to another.  All of our tanks
> are stored under shelving units in our wet collection storage facility.  We
> can wheel them up to our wet lab for opening and specimen retrieval or can
> open them up ?in situ? thanks to our dedicated HVAC system that removes any
> vapors from the air.  We will usually open them up and step away for a
> couple of seconds to allow for any buildup of vapors within the head space
> of the tank to dissipate before using the tank.
>
>
>
> I agree that a ?snorkel? unit is a great solution for a wet lab facility
> to effectively extract fumes from tanks but these can be expensive to
> install.
>
>
>
> Andy
>
>     A  :             A  :             A  :
>  }<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<)))_?>
>     V                V                V
> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
>
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> USA
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
> Email: abentley at ku.edu
>
> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258
>
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu
>
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>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> * On Behalf Of *Haff,
> Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 4, 2022 8:33 PM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
>
>
>
> Hi again,
>
>
>
> I do have one question regarding stainless steel tanks, for those of you
> who use them. Even the smaller ones I assume are quite heavy. Where do you
> store them, and how do you access them? Do you have specially ventilated
> areas for them, etc? Right now we try to do our work in a fume hood because
> of formalin fumes (some of our more historic specimens have very high
> formalin concentrations). I would love to know how or if people deal with
> this in their daily operations.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> Tonya
>
>
>
> *From:* Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> *On Behalf Of *Haff,
> Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 27 April 2022 2:29 PM
> *To:* nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> *Subject:* [ExternalEmail] [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>
>
> I am trying to figure out a nice solution for housing larger specimens.
> Right now we have them stored in either old canning jars (really rammed in,
> not great), or in buckets (don?t seal properly and aren?t archival) or
> drums with rubber (?) gaskets (they seem to leak when you tip them, no
> matter how much they are tightened). I really want a good, leak-proof or at
> least minimising solution, and I feel I haven?t found it yet. It?s really
> frustrating ? the drums are even made for brewing, so you would think they
> would form a nice seal, but they don?t seem to. If any of you have a
> solution you like for housing medium to larger specimens (and I actually
> mean anything over a 2L jar), or a solution for making gasketed drums work,
> I would love to hear it.
>
>
>
> Thank you!
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Tonya
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> Dr. Tonya M. Haff
>
> Collection Manager
>
> Australian National Wildlife Collection
>
> CSIRO
>
>
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From AndrewS at tepapa.govt.nz  Thu May  5 16:26:08 2022
From: AndrewS at tepapa.govt.nz (Andrew Stewart)
Date: Thu, 5 May 2022 20:26:08 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc
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Hi Tonya,

Our larger specimens are stored in fifty 250 litre stainless steel tanks (1.4 m long), and the workhorse of one hundred & twenty eight 500 litres (2.0 m long). These are secured in the room and moved into a workroom, to get specimens in & out, using a pallet jack. For the biggest specimens we have eight fixed tanks of 850 to 3300 litres. These tanks have a glycerine vent valve to release pressure when the weather changes. The room is monitored for alcohol spikes, the air is changed over. Temperature in there is held at 18C +/- 1C & 55%rh +/- 5%. The lids have a silicon gasket and are held down with eight (250 l) or 14 (500 l) catches. The volume and shape of the tanks has been driven by the fact that a majority of them hold fishes, and we have found this to be the optimal shape. These tanks are manufactured by a local metal fabrication company, Etech.

[Tank farm]

Cheers
Andrew Stewart

>><<<)o>
Assistant Curator NE (Fishes)
Museum of New Zealand
04 381 7314
027 7339363




From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Haff, Tonya (NCMI, Crace)
Sent: Wednesday, 27 April 2022 4:29 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Drums, etc

Hello all,

I am trying to figure out a nice solution for housing larger specimens. Right now we have them stored in either old canning jars (really rammed in, not great), or in buckets (don't seal properly and aren't archival) or drums with rubber (?) gaskets (they seem to leak when you tip them, no matter how much they are tightened). I really want a good, leak-proof or at least minimising solution, and I feel I haven't found it yet. It's really frustrating - the drums are even made for brewing, so you would think they would form a nice seal, but they don't seem to. If any of you have a solution you like for housing medium to larger specimens (and I actually mean anything over a 2L jar), or a solution for making gasketed drums work, I would love to hear it.

Thank you!

Cheers,

Tonya

-------------------------------------------------
Dr. Tonya M. Haff
Collection Manager
Australian National Wildlife Collection
CSIRO

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From belmakera at tauex.tau.ac.il  Mon May  9 08:35:53 2022
From: belmakera at tauex.tau.ac.il (Amos Belmaker)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:35:53 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Looking for Syrian Ostrich eggs
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Dear all,  Please see message below from a college. If any of you can help please contact her directly through the email listed below:



For research about the Syrian ostrich, we are looking for ostrich eggs curated at museums. Mainly eggs that were collected in the middle-east, the Persian Gulf and north Africa. But other areas are also important. I would greatly appreciate any information regarding this sub-species.

Dr. Ella Tsahar, Department of Natural Science and Environmental Education, Oranim College of Education, Israel.
ella.tsahar at oranim.ac.il<mailto:ella.tsahar at oranim.ac.il>





Best,

Amos Belmaker

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From emily.braker at colorado.edu  Mon May  9 08:44:03 2022
From: emily.braker at colorado.edu (Emily M. Braker)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 12:44:03 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Webinar TOMORROW (May 10) - Managing Parasite, Pathogen,
 and Host Data in Arctos
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This is a reminder for tomorrow?s webinar on Managing Parasite, Pathogen, and Host Data in Arctos. Please see details below.

On May 3, 2022, at 9:44 AM, Emily M. Braker <emily.braker at colorado.edu> wrote:

?
Please join us Tuesday, May 10  for a webinar on Managing Parasite, Pathogen and Host Data in Arctos.

Presenters: Mariel Campbell, Sara Brant, Andrew Doll, Gabor Racz

Abstract: This webinar will address challenges in managing parasite collections and data in natural history collections and will review the suite of tools in the Arctos Collection Management System  (https://arctosdb.org/) that enable management and data linkage of parasites, pathogens, and hosts. One of the primary challenges to managing parasites in any museum collection management system is that parasite specimens have typically been archived in separate collections from the host specimen. Similarly, pathogen specimens, samples, and data have been collected and managed by public health and wildlife disease surveillance researchers, organizations, and databases not historically integrated with museums. Yet host specimens and associated archives managed in natural history museums provide a critical resource to validate the identification, taxonomy, collecting event, and provenance of hosts, parasites and pathogens. Parasites, pathogens, and hosts share a common collecting event, which can be tracked through assigning a unique identifier at the time of collection to follow all derivate specimens and samples as they are processed and archived in separate collections. This webinar will review Arctos tools that enable 1) sharing of collector and collecting event identifiers between parasites and hosts; 2) creation of reciprocal url-based relationships between parasites and hosts archived in the same collection, in different Arctos collections and institutions, and with external institutions and databases; 3) documenting host and parasite relationships when voucher specimens for one or the other were not preserved; 4) testing for presence of different parasites/pathogens, including the ability to document presence/absence; and 5) search and discovery of host/parasite/pathogen relationships in Arctos and through partner databases such as GloBI (https://www.globalbioticinteractions.org/).
When: Tuesday, May 10, 2022 at 3:00pm ET/1:00pm MT (19:00 UTC)
Where: https://cuboulder.zoom.us/j/92851568323 (passcode: arctos)

Can?t Make It?: This webinar will be recorded and made available on the Arctos Youtube station: https://arctosdb.org/learn/webinars/
Best,
Emily

Emily Braker
Vertebrate Collections Manager, Zoology Section
University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
265 UCB, Bruce Curtis Building
Boulder, CO 80309-0218
Phone: 303-492-8466
http://www.colorado.edu/cumuseum/research-collections/vertebrates

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From PALMERL at si.edu  Mon May  9 10:47:12 2022
From: PALMERL at si.edu (Palmer, Lisa)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 14:47:12 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: Ukraine request and updates
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fyi

From: Foley, Lori <lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov>
Sent: Monday, May 9, 2022 10:22 AM
Cc: Booker-Lair, Dixie <dixie.booker-lair at fema.dhs.gov>; Cornelia Viktoria Posch <posch at udel.edu>; Anastasia Matijkiw <amatijkiw at dhpsny.org>; Gay Bindocci <bindocci at mac.com>
Subject: Ukraine request and updates

External Email - Exercise Caution
HENTF members,

Below are three items of interest. Please share widely. Your action, especially regarding the first entry, can make a difference.

Identifying Ukrainian collections under threat
The US Department of State, the Interagency Working Group on Scientific Collections (IWGSC), the US Department of Agriculture (USDA), and the Smithsonian Cultural Rescue Initiative (SCRI) are working together to help identify, and where possible assist with efforts to save/protect priceless Ukrainian archival, cultural, and scientific collections under threat. They are requesting your help in quickly identifying relevant collections in Ukraine and their needs. Please use the Google Form link below to provide information about respective collection(s), including descriptions, locations, special needs, and points of contact. Please submit one form entry for each collection. The data submitted will be stored in a secure database with the US State Department.
Online Information Collection Form:  Ukrainian Archival, Cultural, and Scientific Collections. <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.us%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2Fdocs.google.com%2Fforms%2Fd%2Fe%2F1FAIpQLScBnWs-76C6fLzSHhej5jw6GEBG9B6wKFIFDYpjS-TACUFocQ%2Fviewform%3Fusp%3Dsf_link__%3B!!BClRuOV5cvtbuNI!VKAJIvuNMJhntO31mvBsnMek-b61scB4JNiSO6jv_xCeDnlkdEQnBl6WPV9ghWU8hlYfEg%24&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cfa5f2400483046817eba08da31c76413%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637877030113577159%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1PM8s4H5U0WVNZlmGG%2F%2BrnRXqQSY9uQ%2FJxraxEorOFc%3D&reserved=0> Alternatively, you may complete the attached Excel file and return it to ukrainiancollections at state.gov<mailto:ukrainiancollections at state.gov>. This may be most helpful if you will submit information on a large number of collections.
Please distribute to your networks as appropriate. If you have any questions, please reach out to Katelynn Averyt, Smithsonian Cultural Rescue Initiative via AverytK at si.edu<mailto:AverytK at si.edu>.

Webinar now available: A Dialogue with Ukrainian Museum Leaders on Defending and Preserving Culture and Identity in a Time of War <https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.us%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2Fr20.rs6.net%2Ftn.jsp%3Ff%3D0014Xu4Z7U_fCVMQqfNW7GVYusyzZpXRLhYmYU1-39xDtvh69DzKDDTZYjz9bLOOtXs8MoTX_0Wr1k1yVilb0DiZE3mtdE7JuGtzqV_ssgkKnKHXe8v6cNKwrpNily3fhIqRNQPt6d_wr6Kz2EuhKW77UX-mvYne1C7sZUlRsN7re3kDvevBpDDZRuZSUgCKGDI-fH5NSA1TKr8MsYoLyk7XgCSz8fcyONkvfjbc7Yf-Cf-mYUJaihB6hv3CNAsQVj8_7My2mjHlow%3D%26c%3DtdPZ2FEm96vTJJeq8fd7EtrMXMQNKLyE6k5A9hvPYiJk0utIbVCZlg%3D%3D%26ch%3DlB8kdsl0F1RPhd-WieU_kgN5lYs8z60HOLELKpVAaRz-ZhrdF8arRg%3D%3D__%3B!!BClRuOV5cvtbuNI!QfNICMbA9RdehfmLfkVXZ3q7i_k_HjXhRUcBlyKdntaUWvRrI_SaSpcZBJVWC5pEz3B3RQ%24&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cfa5f2400483046817eba08da31c76413%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637877030113577159%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=e1Ms8u1UseSRvOAhMjw7HuJFJkqVegbJA5lqY0uNZaY%3D&reserved=0>

On May 2, the National Museum of American Diplomacy hosted a discussion with Ukrainian museum leaders who reported on efforts to protect their collections and preserve Ukraine's identity and cultural heritage threatened by Vladimir Putin's unprovoked war. The recording is now available at A Dialogue with Ukrainian Museum Leaders - YouTube<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DbEXKOSgyv0Q%26t%3D1s&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cfa5f2400483046817eba08da31c76413%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637877030113577159%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=lVGBtkyuJj0it6Too%2BE9Uxsp6RBNmnWbFR8%2B075GNNo%3D&reserved=0>.



CERF+: Protecting Ukraine's Cultural Heritage

On April 26, Dr. Richard Kurin, SCRI founder and Smithsonian Distinguished Scholar and Ambassador-at-Large, joined the CERF+ board for lunch during their spring meeting in Washington, DC. For a report on the insight he shared regarding Russia's attack on Ukrainian culture and our collective responsibility to protect Ukrainian heritage, see Protecting Ukraine's Cultural Heritage: A Special Report on Cultural Recovery - CERF+ (cerfplus.org)<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcerfplus.org%2Fprotecting-ukraines-cultural-heritage-a-special-report-on-cultural-recovery%2F%3Forg%3D808%26lvl%3D100%26ite%3D3589%26lea%3D6738265%26ctr%3D0%26par%3D1%26trk%3Da185a00002RGPRgAAP&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cfa5f2400483046817eba08da31c76413%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637877030113577159%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=ToX2XW2JrnJFlWIo9l%2BcSJe8Kb1hjNExeUTg0o9xVAs%3D&reserved=0>.


Thank you,
Lori

Lori Foley
Coordinator | Heritage Emergency National Task Force
Office of Environmental Planning & Historic Preservation
Federal Insurance and Mitigation Administration | Resilience
Mobile: (202) 826-6303
lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov<mailto:lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov>
culturalrescue.si.edu/hentf<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fculturalrescue.si.edu%2Fhentf%2F&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7Cfa5f2400483046817eba08da31c76413%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637877030113577159%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=CGgvjQkr50MxvUUuDnz2VwIbz2h7eAeWMzjCflISsXs%3D&reserved=0>

Federal Emergency Management Agency
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From abentley at ku.edu  Mon May  9 16:42:30 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Mon, 9 May 2022 20:42:30 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FedEx shipping to Canada and usage of broker
Message-ID: <SN6PR01MB419114B6AC33ADA79E735208B2C69@SN6PR01MB4191.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Hi all (especially Canadian colleagues)

We (University of Kansas Biodiversity Institute) have recently had a couple of FedEx specimen packages going to Canada held up in Canadian customs due to us not including broker information on our USFWS 3-177 export declarations.  We have never had to include broker information before for any international packages (not even Canadian) and so I am wondering whether something has changed recently or whether there is something we have been missing all along.  It was my understanding that a broker was not needed and that FedEx acted as our broker during transit.

Could someone clarify the situation in Canada or generally please?  This is not an inexpensive addition to our shipping costs and also causes unwanted delays.

Thanks

Andy
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Dyche Hall
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USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>

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Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258
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From D.Neumann at leibniz-lib.de  Tue May 10 02:19:20 2022
From: D.Neumann at leibniz-lib.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 06:19:20 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FedEx shipping to Canada and usage of broker
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Message-ID: <c73166bca50e4475955de31a7ec1d266@leibniz-lib.de>

Hi Andy,

usually, when ordering transportation services through postal carrier companies, you do also mandate this company to act as customs broker for the respective shipment. As far as I can recall at least the handwritten FedEx airwaybills have a tick box you actively need to cross to mandate them.

It might be worth checking if recent (?) updates of the browser-based FedEx shipping software now has a similar box you need to activate. At least I know such boxes from DHL software (both, DHL worldpost and DHL Express). But this is just a guess. Unless there were recent changes to the NAFTA agreement (which is designed to reduce customs barriers) it would not be intuitive that these hassles where caused by regulatory amendments to customs and/or Canadian import laws.

It might also be worth checking the FedEx invoice carefully; we had repeatedly cases where overambitious FedEx staff flagged parcels mistakenly and corresponding costs that were charged where rather additional internal FedEx handling fees (which, in some cases FedEx in advance payed mistakenly) instead of costs or fees that were charged by authorities to clear respective shipments. If this was an internal misrouting, FedEx in any case will try to charge these costs from either the shipper or consignee. We have this problem here constantly with imports via Cologne/Bonn airport which is the main air hub for FedEx here in Europe (similar to Memphis in the US).

In such cases my advice is to claim the costs and see what happens. As soon as you claim the costs, FedEx accounting internally reviews fees and charges.

Hope this helps
Dirk

Von: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> Im Auftrag von Bentley, Andrew Charles
Gesendet: Montag, 9. Mai 2022 22:43
An: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Betreff: [Nhcoll-l] FedEx shipping to Canada and usage of broker

Hi all (especially Canadian colleagues)

We (University of Kansas Biodiversity Institute) have recently had a couple of FedEx specimen packages going to Canada held up in Canadian customs due to us not including broker information on our USFWS 3-177 export declarations.  We have never had to include broker information before for any international packages (not even Canadian) and so I am wondering whether something has changed recently or whether there is something we have been missing all along.  It was my understanding that a broker was not needed and that FedEx acted as our broker during transit.

Could someone clarify the situation in Canada or generally please?  This is not an inexpensive addition to our shipping costs and also causes unwanted delays.

Thanks

Andy
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Ichthyology Collection Manager
University of Kansas
Biodiversity Institute
Dyche Hall
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>

Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
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From Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk  Tue May 10 09:34:45 2022
From: Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk (Mike Rutherford)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 13:34:45 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Thresher shark model value
Message-ID: <CWLP265MB4756816A0F858BB457F2BAC2B7C99@CWLP265MB4756.GBRP265.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM>

Hi,

I'm hoping someone can help. We have a plaster model of a thresher shark from the Hunterian collections at the University of Glasgow, it was purchased from Wards Natural History Establishment, Rochester, N.Y. USA in 1920 and was on display for a while before ending up in a neighbouring museum's store room as part of a long term loan. I'm either looking for an idea of what it would cost to get a new life size thresher shark model or an idea of what this original plaster model would be worth.

I've been in touch with Ward's but am still waiting for a reply.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

Cheers,
Mike

Mike G. Rutherford
Curator of Zoology & Anatomy

The Hunterian
University of Glasgow
Glasgow G12 8QQ
Scotland

E-mail: mike.rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk<mailto:mike.rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk>
Mob: +44(0)7988 383 219

The Hunterian Museum, Hunterian Art Gallery and Mackintosh House are open Tue-Sun 10am-5pm.
The Zoology Museum is open Mon-Fri 9am-5pm
The Anatomy Museum remains closed for now.
Find out more on our website<https://www.gla.ac.uk/hunterian/visit/notices/>.

www.glasgow.ac.uk/hunterian
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Facebook @HunterianGlasgow
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From sswann at coa.edu  Tue May 10 16:19:25 2022
From: sswann at coa.edu (Scott Swann)
Date: Tue, 10 May 2022 16:19:25 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Thresher shark model value
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Ooh, I am on this one. My brilliant student Tess White just did a brilliant
Thesher shark necropsy last week. Tess can send you photos. Tess is
preparing to do a model next fall. We now know all about Thesher sharks.

Scott

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:35 AM Mike Rutherford <
Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk> wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> I?m hoping someone can help. We have a plaster model of a thresher shark
> from the Hunterian collections at the University of Glasgow, it was
> purchased from Wards Natural History Establishment, Rochester, N.Y. USA in
> 1920 and was on display for a while before ending up in a neighbouring
> museum?s store room as part of a long term loan. I?m either looking for an
> idea of what it would cost to get a new life size thresher shark model or
> an idea of what this original plaster model would be worth.
>
>
>
> I?ve been in touch with Ward?s but am still waiting for a reply.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts much appreciated.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> *Mike G. Rutherford*
>
> Curator of Zoology & Anatomy
>
>
>
> *The Hunterian*
>
> University of Glasgow
>
> Glasgow G12 8QQ
>
> Scotland
>
>
>
> E-mail: mike.rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk
>
> Mob: +44(0)7988 383 219
>
>
>
> The Hunterian Museum, Hunterian Art Gallery and Mackintosh House are open
> Tue?Sun 10am?5pm.
> The Zoology Museum is open Mon?Fri 9am?5pm
>
> The Anatomy Museum remains closed for now.
>
> Find out more on our website
> <https://www.gla.ac.uk/hunterian/visit/notices/>.
>
>
> www.glasgow.ac.uk/hunterian
>
> Twitter @hunterian
>
> Facebook @HunterianGlasgow
>
> Instagram @hunterianglasgow
>
>
>
> Search our collections at http://collections.gla.ac.uk
>
>
>
> The Entire Collection cared for by The Hunterian is a Recognised
> Collection of National Significance to Scotland
>
>
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From achinn at royalbcmuseum.bc.ca  Wed May 11 12:25:26 2022
From: achinn at royalbcmuseum.bc.ca (Chinn, Anna RBCM:EX)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 16:25:26 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Refrigeration for tanned skins
Message-ID: <aa68bec7c33742cebea1df793c05bf80@royalbcmuseum.bc.ca>

Hello all,

We are planning storage conditions for a new collections building. In our current building, all tanned mammal skins are stored in a refrigerated, locked room. Recently, the fridge unit malfunctioned and the room had to be completely emptied. We are considering eliminating the fridge in the new building and integrating the tanned hides with the rest of the collection to avoid the risk of future melt down.

I would love to hear your experiences with tanned hides. Have you found refrigeration to be a net benefit to preservation? We have been storing some mounted taxidermy in the fridge room, as well. I am a little concerned that the fridge might make these specimens more prone to drying and cracking. Do other people have experience with this?

Thank you for all of your thoughts,

Anna
______________________________________________________________________________________________
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ROYAL BC MUSEUM
Traditional Territory of the Lekwungen (Songhees and Xwsepsum Nations)
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From HawksC at si.edu  Wed May 11 12:33:29 2022
From: HawksC at si.edu (Hawks, Catharine)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 16:33:29 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Refrigeration for tanned skins
In-Reply-To: <aa68bec7c33742cebea1df793c05bf80@royalbcmuseum.bc.ca>
References: <aa68bec7c33742cebea1df793c05bf80@royalbcmuseum.bc.ca>
Message-ID: <BL1PR12MB5111A8DE9EBB2DC3E243C920BFC89@BL1PR12MB5111.namprd12.prod.outlook.com>

As Mary Lou Florian noted long ago, the rate of lipid oxidation increases as temperature decreases, so can be detrimental to skin (tanned or untanned) materials  as a long-term storage solution.

Cathy
Catharine Hawks (she, her)
Conservator
Collections Program
MRC 170 Rm M85-J
National Museum of Natural History
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Washington DC 20560
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Chinn, Anna RBCM:EX
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2022 12:25 PM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Refrigeration for tanned skins

External Email - Exercise Caution
Hello all,

We are planning storage conditions for a new collections building. In our current building, all tanned mammal skins are stored in a refrigerated, locked room. Recently, the fridge unit malfunctioned and the room had to be completely emptied. We are considering eliminating the fridge in the new building and integrating the tanned hides with the rest of the collection to avoid the risk of future melt down.

I would love to hear your experiences with tanned hides. Have you found refrigeration to be a net benefit to preservation? We have been storing some mounted taxidermy in the fridge room, as well. I am a little concerned that the fridge might make these specimens more prone to drying and cracking. Do other people have experience with this?

Thank you for all of your thoughts,

Anna
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From kamakos at verizon.net  Wed May 11 13:15:38 2022
From: kamakos at verizon.net (Kathryn Makos)
Date: Wed, 11 May 2022 13:15:38 -0400
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Thresher Shark Models and asbestos plaster
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Greetings,

 

The University of Glasgow must have an Occupational/Environmental Health and
Safety Department so I would contact them promptly before you disturb much
art plaster on that shark model.  There are well established ANSI & NIOSH
standards for bulk sampling that they will be best equipped to both safely
collect and analyze for you.  That is their job.no need for you to try this
one on your own.

 

Plaster models of a certain age (say,pre-1980) almost certainly have
chrysotile asbestos because that form was such a perfectly moldable yet
strong and unbreakable additive to plaster. I don't know if/when Scotland
banned the sale of asbestos products, but many places of employment (or
taxidermy-model making shops) may have hung on to supplies even though
banned for sale now.

 

Kathryn Makos, MPH CIH 

(Retired:Smithsonian Institution OSHEM)

Chair, AIHA Museum & Cultural Heritage Industry Working Group

 

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From gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu  Thu May 12 08:49:18 2022
From: gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu (Nelson,Gil)
Date: Thu, 12 May 2022 12:49:18 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Register Now: 6th Annual Digital Data Conference: May
 23-25
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The Field Museum in collaboration with iDigBio and the Natural Science Collections Alliance is pleased to announce the sixth annual Digital Data in Biodiversity Research Conference, to be hosted May 23-25, 2022. This year's event with be a virtual meeting. The conference will again provide an important opportunity to explore digital data tools, techniques, research protocols, discoveries, and outcomes across all biodiversity research domains.

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From atrox at berkeley.edu  Fri May 13 20:49:23 2022
From: atrox at berkeley.edu (Carol Spencer)
Date: Fri, 13 May 2022 17:49:23 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] California museums-Thank you for your Support of
 Biorepositories! Can You Share with One Colleague Today?
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For those of us in California collections, you can sign the letter via
putting your information on google doc bitly link below, to tell State
legislators we need money for bio collections.


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From: Vicki Moore <vickimoore1345 at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, May 13, 2022 at 11:36 AM
Subject: Thank you for your Support of Biorepositories! Can You Share with
One Colleague Today?
To: Vicki Moore <vickimoore1345 at gmail.com>


Dear Friend,



Thank you so much for joining all the others in support of Biorepository
Funding from the State of California.



Because our deadline is fast approaching (Monday), we have one more request
of you as a leader.  Can you share the letter with at least one other
friend, colleague, or coworker with a quick note to ask them to join?  The
more supporters presented to the State Legislators, the better our
chances. Bonus
points if you can share to a listserv or social media!



Vicki Moore

on behalf of the California Institute for Biodiversity



*Letter below*:



Dear Friend,



You?ve probably heard: the state is flush and there is the potential to
fund long-overlooked budget priorities.



Biorepositories, natural history collections, have been underfunded for
years.  Now, scientists are asking legislators to use some of the budget
surplus to fund them. To make sure scientists are heard, we?re circulating
a simple letter from scientists like you.



*You can be included along with all the others* by adding your name here:
https://bit.ly/3MXY8Uv.  The letter is from us as individual constituents,
not on behalf of our institutions, and so everyone can add their voice
?even scientists who work for the State.



As a California scientist your voice is key.  But even more important is
your leadership, so please get the word out to other California
scientists.  However you decide best ?email, listserves, social media?*please
share widely with your coworkers and friends and colleagues*.



If we can get legislators a letter from hundreds of scientists, they will
hear us and they will make good on this opportunity.



Will you please make sure you are included? It takes 30 seconds, so don?t
add it to the ?to do? list.  Do it now!  *Our deadline is Monday, May 16th
to get our letters to State legislators before the final budget decisions
are made.*



Many thanks,

Vicki Moore

on behalf of the California Institute for Biodiversity
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From Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk  Mon May 16 07:36:49 2022
From: Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk (Mike Rutherford)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 11:36:49 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Thresher shark model value
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Thanks to all for the many comments and replies, much useful information was gained, although some quite disturbing stuff too, such as checking for potential asbestos in old plaster models. Lots of work to do as a result but it will be all for the best.

No definitive value for the shark but a good idea of what it might cost to get a new model and some good leads on resources connected to Ward?s such as this https://wardproject.org/

Cheers,
Mike

From: Scott Swann <sswann at coa.edu>
Sent: 10 May 2022 21:19
To: Mike Rutherford <Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk>; Jasper White <jwhite22 at coa.edu>; Tess Moore <gmoore23 at coa.edu>
Cc: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Thresher shark model value

Ooh, I am on this one. My brilliant student Tess White just did a brilliant Thesher shark necropsy last week. Tess can send you photos. Tess is preparing to do a model next fall. We now know all about Thesher sharks.

Scott

On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 9:35 AM Mike Rutherford <Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk<mailto:Mike.Rutherford at glasgow.ac.uk>> wrote:
Hi,

I?m hoping someone can help. We have a plaster model of a thresher shark from the Hunterian collections at the University of Glasgow, it was purchased from Wards Natural History Establishment, Rochester, N.Y. USA in 1920 and was on display for a while before ending up in a neighbouring museum?s store room as part of a long term loan. I?m either looking for an idea of what it would cost to get a new life size thresher shark model or an idea of what this original plaster model would be worth.

I?ve been in touch with Ward?s but am still waiting for a reply.

Any thoughts much appreciated.

Cheers,
Mike

Mike G. Rutherford
Curator of Zoology & Anatomy

The Hunterian
University of Glasgow
Glasgow G12 8QQ
Scotland

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Mob: +44(0)7988 383 219

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From abentley at ku.edu  Mon May 16 16:20:31 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Mon, 16 May 2022 20:20:31 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Job posting - Specify Collections Consortium (SCC)
 Technical Support Manager, Biodiversity Institute, University of Kansas
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https://sjobs.brassring.com/TGnewUI/Search/home/HomeWithPreLoad?PageType=JobDetails&partnerid=25752&siteid=5541&AReq=22108BR#jobDetails=4528279_5541



Salary: $50,000 minimum

Start date: 13 June 2022

Application review begins: 24 May 2022

Work location:  Hybrid, Lawrence campus and remote



Position Overview



The Technical Support Manager's primary responsibility will be managing the help desk support services of the Specify Collections Consortium (SCC), an international organization of natural history museums. The Manager will exercise independent judgment and professional discretion in performing their duties with fulfillment and member relationship activities.

The Technical Support Manager will report to the SCC Membership and Fulfillment Officer and will interact daily with SCC staff members. The Manager will communicate extensively with collection scientists from SCC member institutions to provide front-line technical support and problem-solving. The Manager will configure and customize Specify software and provide guidance and training for Specify users in its function and use. The successful candidate will supervise part-time student employees who will help provide technical support. The Manager will help evaluate requested software features, test new software releases and will represent the Consortium in virtual member and community forum meetings and in occasional webinars.

The ideal candidate will have strong interpersonal and project management skills and a working knowledge of computing and databases. Prior experience with Specify software or museum data is not required, and training will be provided. Depending on public health conditions, the position may require occasional travel to member sites or conferences.

The University of Kansas offers a generous benefits package including robust health plan options, retirement plan contribution matching, up to 176 hours of paid vacation earned per year, 96 hours of sick leave earned per year, 9 paid holidays plus one discretionary day. KU is located in the lovely, bucolic college town of Lawrence, Kansas with outstanding schools and cultural activities.


Required Qualifications

  1.  Bachelor's degree in STEM or business-related field or Associate's degree in STEM or business-related field and 1 year related experience.
  2.  Proficient at task prioritizing and time management, ability to track and accomplish tasks to meet deadlines as evidenced by previous work experience.
  3.  Proficient with desktop computing as evidenced by previous work experience.
  4.  Proficient writing and editing skills as evidenced by application materials and past writing projects.
  5.  Demonstrable highly collaborative work habits, team collaboration and communication skills as evidenced by interview and referees.

Preferred Qualifications

  1.  Experience working in a customer fulfillment/service position.
  2.  Experience working with databases in a museum or science context, especially MySQL or MariaDB databases.
  3.  Bachelor's degree in STEM, collections, or business discipline.
  4.  Working knowledge of Specify Software, and structure and syntax of XML documents.
  5.  Enthusiasm for problem-solving and for learning new skills and for completing tasks, as evidenced in interview and in application materials.


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From cindy-opitz at uiowa.edu  Tue May 17 13:33:19 2022
From: cindy-opitz at uiowa.edu (Opitz, Cindy E)
Date: Tue, 17 May 2022 17:33:19 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] display case intrusion sensors
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Hello! Does anyone have recommendations for vibration/shock sensors for plexiglass exhibit case tops? Our old ones are failing, and our new security equipment company inherited these old, previously installed sensors and isn't aware of workable replacement options. We have contact sensors to alert us when the tops are lifted off, but we're looking for sensors that trigger an alarm when the display tops are broken open.

Cindy Opitz (she/her)
Director of Research Collections
Museum of Natural History and Old Capitol Museum
Instructor, Museum Studies Certificate Program
The University of Iowa
11 Macbride Hall, Iowa City, Iowa 52242
Office: 319.335.0481
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From Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca  Wed May 18 07:55:32 2022
From: Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca (Mary Sollows)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 11:55:32 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don't want to run the risk of "Alphabet soup" in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d'histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

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From PALMERL at si.edu  Wed May 18 08:30:04 2022
From: PALMERL at si.edu (Palmer, Lisa)
Date: Wed, 18 May 2022 12:30:04 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: HENTF: Two items to note
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From: Foley, Lori <lori.foley at fema.dhs.gov>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 8:28 AM
Subject: HENTF: Two items to note

External Email - Exercise Caution
Dear HENTF members,

I hope this email finds you well. Please disseminate these two items of interest to your colleagues, members, and constituents.


1.       The Conflict Observatory
The U.S. Department of State has announced the launch of a new Conflict Observatory to capture, analyze, and make widely available evidence of Russia-perpetrated war crimes and other atrocities in Ukraine. The program encompasses the documentation, verification, and dissemination of open-source evidence regarding the actions of Russia's forces during President Putin's brutal war of choice. The Conflict Observatory will analyze and preserve publicly and commercially available information, including satellite imagery and information shared via social media, consistent with international legal standards, for use in ongoing and future accountability mechanisms. The Smithsonian Cultural Rescue Initiative is among the entities collaborating on the Conflict Observatory. For more information, see Promoting Accountability for War Crimes and Other Atrocities in Ukraine - United States Department of State<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.state.gov%2Fpromoting-accountability-for-war-crimes-and-other-atrocities-in-ukraine%2F&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C85338bfa36024bdc292308da38c9e7e6%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637884737211745429%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=JosdLCiMz6coTOpFE%2FHaSP5kxKEPIgXaEGpRjRcm8iA%3D&reserved=0>.



2.       Free Webinar: Weathering the Storm: 2022 Hurricane Preparations for Cultural Institutions
Thursday, May 26, 10:00 - 11:30 am CT | 11:00 am - 12:30 pm ET
Dan Reilly, Warning Coordination Meteorologist, National Weather Service Houston/Galveston
Rebecca Kennedy, Collections Care Specialist, Curae Collections Care LLC
Rik Chapman, Spokesperson, American Red Cross

As the 2022 Gulf Coast hurricane season begins, it's time for cultural institutions to review their plans for preparation and response. Dan Reilly, Warning Coordination Meteorologist at National Weather Service Houston/Galveston, will discuss the hurricane season forecast and how to prepare for the wind, rain, flooding, and tornadoes that are associated with Gulf Coast hurricanes. Rebecca Kennedy, Collections Care Specialist with Curae Collections Care LLC, will provide important details on how to conduct a risk assessment prior to a hurricane. Rik Chapman, Spokesperson for the American Red Cross, will discuss how the Red Cross evaluates a site before deploying to that location. This Texas Historical Commission<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thc.texas.gov%2Fmuseumwebinars&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C85338bfa36024bdc292308da38c9e7e6%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637884737211745429%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1c5wrf3fjKehdZnVUX26X3%2F6cYJt%2BCqHIy%2FhOVM4a%2BI%3D&reserved=0> webinar is presented in collaboration with the Texas Collections Emergency Resource Alliance<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.txcera.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C85338bfa36024bdc292308da38c9e7e6%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637884737211745429%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=KIC2VsWspcshSIU9VTg63s6InMktfSX1%2Fc96EQFeJeQ%3D&reserved=0> (TX-CERA) and the National Center for Preservation Technology and Training<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fncptt.nps.gov%2F&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C85338bfa36024bdc292308da38c9e7e6%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637884737211745429%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=zwyPOBR%2FE0tbGz%2F2cseKWQ6Dg%2FSoASX6Shn780C4aQQ%3D&reserved=0> (NCPTT).


Registration: https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/8733342117460520460<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.us%2Fv3%2F__https%3A%2Fattendee.gotowebinar.com%2Fregister%2F8733342117460520460__%3B!!BClRuOV5cvtbuNI!VEfOGZ8IK02gliTljegZWDzwxgBUEBgANnekyETc2ybf_aiTBhipS14fx6GriI2_KpEgBQ%24&data=05%7C01%7CPalmerL%40si.edu%7C85338bfa36024bdc292308da38c9e7e6%7C989b5e2a14e44efe93b78cdd5fc5d11c%7C0%7C0%7C637884737211745429%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=kPSspOa00If%2BlKjlQo47tS82q2SYLqHKXcdqOcSG1IQ%3D&reserved=0>


Thank you. Please stay safe.

Lori

Lori Foley
Coordinator | Heritage Emergency National Task Force
Office of Environmental Planning & Historic Preservation
Federal Insurance and Mitigation Administration | Resilience
Mobile: (202) 826-6303
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From tschioette at snm.ku.dk  Thu May 19 04:55:55 2022
From: tschioette at snm.ku.dk (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Tom_Schi=F8tte?=)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 08:55:55 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] NHMD collections portal
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Dear all NhColl readers,

Last year the Natural History Museum of Denmark (NHMD) implemented a new virtual collections portal, https://collections.snm.ku.dk/en.

The portal is designed to service both the international, scientific users and the Danish public. It is based on information from our Specify database and channeled through GBIF, meaning that all NHMD data are also available and searchable on GBIF.org. The NHMD portal, however, is arranged differently including deep zoom in photos, IUCN status, maps and trivial names.

We would very much like NhColl users to have a look at the portal and give us your feed back, positive and negative. We are up and running with the first version, but we would like to have response on what to improve/clarify/change/add in our future development.

Please send any answers/input to:

Tom Schi?tte, TSchioette at snm.ku.dk<mailto:TSchioette at snm.ku.dk> and
Anders Drud Jordan, adjordan at snm.ku.dk<mailto:adjordan at snm.ku.dk>.

Good luck and best wishes

Tom

Tom Schi?tte

Collection manager, Echinodermata & Mollusca
Natural History Museum of Denmark (Zoology)
Universitetsparken 15
DK 2100 Copenhagen OE

+45 35 32 10 48
TSchioette at snm.ku.dk<mailto:TSchioette at snm.ku.dk>

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From gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu  Thu May 19 17:53:24 2022
From: gnelson at floridamuseum.ufl.edu (Nelson,Gil)
Date: Thu, 19 May 2022 21:53:24 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Next Week: 6th Annual Digital Data in Biodiversity
 Research Conference
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A Message from the Host:

Thank you to everyone who registered for this year's Sixth Annual Digital Data conference hosted virtually by the Field Museum!

We are delighted by the overwhelming interest this conference has generated. This is destined to be another fantastic event.



A few helpful hints for navigating the conference next week:

- The conference wiki page (https://www.idigbio.org/wiki/index.php/6th_Annual_Digital_Data_Conference,_Field_Museum<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__clicks.eventbrite.com_f_a_Szmrkjt8ArtEAn5Fh7CEmQ-7E-7E_AAQxAQA-7E_RgRkZ9ktP0RXaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuaWRpZ2Jpby5vcmcvd2lraS9pbmRleC5waHAvNnRoX0FubnVhbF9EaWdpdGFsX0RhdGFfQ29uZmVyZW5jZSxfRmllbGRfTXVzZXVtVwNzcGNCCmKGraWGYmYXF1VSHWduZWxzb25AZmxvcmlkYW11c2V1bS51ZmwuZWR1WAQAAAAA&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=-DeN3HZj0Hb0vKtqmNM6xJyvWlG-EW6_J4YBXE1_ai4&m=EhhO665HTY9SazBgmynglIzg64TIfiXlDFkwCJbhSgkDoHl2z0Gb9pwnfrNYuNie&s=AEKKb-Xo5PnIebfyWiyTYoM1YnTbszjH9q514Z5KmLQ&e=>) will be your guide to the conference and will house all the Zoom links for viewing the conference live.

- From the wiki, a quick ?registration? will let you into the session, we?re hoping to not bombard people with links to everything, so please just ?register? for the Zoom webinar sessions that you?re interested in attending.

- After you submit your name and email (in an effort to reduce bot/Zoombomber discovery and allow for participant tracking), you?ll be taken directly to the webinar.

- You will not need to switch ?rooms? if you?re hoping to join presentations by people in the same session (e.g. Concurrent Session 6), but you?ll need to switch to a different Zoom ?room? if you want to jump from Concurrent Session 1 over to Concurrent Session 2.

- If you cannot attend the concurrent sessions live, pre-recorded presentations will be linked to the each oral presentation before the start of the conference.

- Plenary sessions will be recorded and later posted on the wiki page.

- Please submit your questions for each speaker using the Q&A feature in Zoom, we won?t be focusing on the chat for questions to direct to the speaker, that?s for you to communicate with one another!



Socializing in Kumospace

We will hosting informal meeting space at https://www.kumospace.com/digidata<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__clicks.eventbrite.com_f_a_m4JPZ3yFQV3gBjHIV-5Fn7LQ-7E-7E_AAQxAQA-7E_RgRkZ9ktP0QiaHR0cHM6Ly93d3cua3Vtb3NwYWNlLmNvbS9kaWdpZGF0YVcDc3BjQgpihq2lhmJmFxdVUh1nbmVsc29uQGZsb3JpZGFtdXNldW0udWZsLmVkdVgEAAAAAA-7E-7E&d=DwMFaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=-DeN3HZj0Hb0vKtqmNM6xJyvWlG-EW6_J4YBXE1_ai4&m=EhhO665HTY9SazBgmynglIzg64TIfiXlDFkwCJbhSgkDoHl2z0Gb9pwnfrNYuNie&s=RWImWedjRa1oxXyeHeGfDMRd_4kprBnMt_8EdsDx5Gk&e=>. Rooms will be open for the duration for the conference to utilize during breaks, poster sessions, and after the evening collection tours. We hope you will all join us for this fun opportunity to network and socialize!





Virtual Tours of the Field Museum?s collections
Join us Monday and Tuesday evening for digital collection tours hosted by Field museum staff and collaborating institutions.

Monday Tours:
 - Selections of Linne's works from the Rare Book Room and Biodiversity Heritage Library (BHL)
- Fossil Invertebrates
- Critical Curation for a Critical Collection: Insights into miniature forests - the liverwort of the esteemed botanist R. M. Schuster - supported by the National Science Foundation
- Tiny, Irreplaceable Things: Preserving the Ruth Marshall Collection
- Chicago Academy of Sciences
- Insects, Arachnids, and Myriapods of the FMNH
- Chicago Botanic Garden

Tuesday Tours:
- Extant Mammals of the FMNH
- Fossil Vertebrate Collection
- Fishes and Amphibians & Reptiles Collections at FMNH
- Organization and Digitization of the Invertebrate Collection
- Overview of Field Museum collections



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Monday, May 23, 2022 at 8:00 AM - Wednesday, May 25, 2022 at 6:00 PM (CDT)

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From d.neumann at leibniz-lib.de  Fri May 20 16:33:18 2022
From: d.neumann at leibniz-lib.de (Dirk Neumann)
Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 22:33:18 +0200
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] BERLIN Declaration on Biodiversity loss - call to co-sign
In-Reply-To: <ba0d081943584bd58be176395b0ded49@leibniz-lib.de>
References: <ba0d081943584bd58be176395b0ded49@leibniz-lib.de>
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Dear NHColl community,


usually, I do not share petitions asking others to co-sign it. Things with this one are a bit different, yesterday, there was a high ranking public meeting with, among others,  the Minister of Environment in Germany, Mrs. Steffi Lemke from the Green Party, and the directors of the Natural History museums and Leibniz Institutes in Frankfurt, Clement Tockner (Senckenberg), the Leibniz Institute for the Analysis of Biodiversity Change, Bernhard Misof (i.e. the newly fused Museum Alexander Koenig, Bonn, and the Museum of Nature, Hamburg), and the Museum f?r Naturkunde in Berlin, Johannes Vogel.


The English version of the declaration is attached, it calls political leaders 30 years after the before the 1992 Rio Convention on Biodiversity for ambitious action to comabt biodiversity loss. This declaration comes shortly before the CBD-preparatory meeting in Nairobi in June, and before the G7 summit in Germany end of June. Apparently, as a result of the CBD-preparatory in Geneva in March, key CBD countries wish to water down the indicators for the monitoring of biodiversity, with the IUCN Red List being currently considered as only 'scientific' indicators.


It would surely be good if this declaration would broad support not only from German scientists, but also international attention.


This link<https://berliner-erklaerung.eu/> guides you to the website, if you wish to sign. The Website currently is available only in German, I am afraid. When scrolling down, you will find a big blue bar, asking you to sign in German ("Sie m?chten diese Erkl?rung auch unterzeichnen?" - see screenshot)

[cid:part1.yxt17Hsc.NBCqwrDW at leibniz-lib.de]

You would only need to enter your sure and last name in the first field, followed by your institution, and your email (see second screen shot), klick the "Einverstanden" button, and hit the blackish "Absenden" field below.

[cid:part2.au02SrdH.TveC51qE at leibniz-lib.de]

Would surely be good if some would sign and if this petition would receive wide attention. Sadly no presents other then "attention" offered in return, except for hopefully raising the bar a bit for policy makers...



With best wishes
Dirk



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Betreff:        WG: DRINGEND - BERLINER ERKL?RUNG - Wissenschaftliche Mitunterzeichner*innen gesucht!
Datum:  Fri, 20 May 2022 10:19:38 +0200
Von:    Vorzimmer <secretary at leibniz-lib.de><mailto:secretary at leibniz-lib.de>




________________________________
Von: SGN Generaldirektion <generaldirektion at senckenberg.de<mailto:generaldirektion at senckenberg.de>>
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 19. Mai 2022 15:04
An: SGN Generaldirektion
Betreff: DRINGEND - BERLINER ERKL?RUNG - Wissenschaftliche Mitunterzeichner*innen gesucht!

Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren,

liebe Kolleg*innen,

die drei Naturforschungsmuseen der Leibniz-Gemeinschaft haben aus aktuellem Anlass, dem Internationalen Tag der Erhaltung der Artenvielfalt am 22.5.2022, die so genannte Berliner Erkl?rung verfasst. Dieses Positionspapier kommt von Seiten der Wissenschaft und richtet sich im Vorfeld des Weltnaturgipfels im August in Kunming an die Politik und fordert konkrete, mutige und konsequente Schritte, um die Zwillingskrisen Klimawandel und R?ckgang der biologischen Vielfalt schnellstm?glich und effektiv einzud?mmen.

Die Berliner Erkl?rung erh?lt umso mehr Gewicht und Sichtbarkeit, desto mehr Wissenschaftler*innen sie unterst?tzen und mittragen. Wir w?rden uns daher sehr freuen, wenn Sie die Erkl?rung unter diesem Link mitzeichnen ( http://berliner-erklaerung.eu/ ) .

Leiten Sie diesen Aufruf gerne an Ihre eigenen wissenschaftlichen Netzwerke weiter, um dieses wichtige Anliegen zu verbreiten.

Die Berliner Erkl?rung finden Sie als Anhang zu dieser Mail in deutscher und englischer Sprache.

Wenn nicht jetzt, wann dann? Es ist h?chste Zeit zu handeln,

Ihr

Klement Tockner


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Stiftung Leibniz-Institut zur Analyse des Biodiversit?tswandels
Postanschrift: Adenauerallee 127, 53113 Bonn, Germany

Stiftung des ?ffentlichen Rechts;
Generaldirektion: Prof. Dr. Bernhard Misof (Generaldirektor), Adrian Gr?ter (Kaufm. Gesch?ftsf?hrer)
Sitz der Stiftung: Adenauerallee 160 in Bonn
Vorsitzender des Stiftungsrates: Dr. Michael Wappelhorst
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From lschlenk at ku.edu  Tue May 24 11:35:52 2022
From: lschlenk at ku.edu (Schlenker, Lori Bryn)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 15:35:52 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Entomology Collection Manager position announcement - KU
 Biodiversity Institute
Message-ID: <DM5PR0102MB3414FF30883859FC14E2D7EBA6D79@DM5PR0102MB3414.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Please share with friends and colleagues:

COLLECTION MANAGER IN ENTOMOLOGY
Biodiversity Institute
University of Kansas

A Collections Manager in the Division of Entomology of the Biodiversity Institute at The University of Kansas administers a world-class collection consisting of nearly five million recent and fossil insect specimens in a wide range of preservation states. Tasks include preservation and curation of the physical collection; the management of data, records, and transactions of the collection; the maintenance and development of the collection's specimen-level database in Specify; and facilitation of the use of the collection by University faculty, staff, students and the external research community. In addition, the Collection Manager trains and oversees graduate and undergraduate students as well as other grant-funded personnel in collections work-flow operations such as specimen preparation and digitization. This full-time, state-funded position reports to the Biodiversity Institute Assistant Director for Collections and Facilities.

For additional information and to apply, go to: employment.ku.edu/staff/22225BR<http://www.employment.ku.edu/staff/22225BR>

A complete application will include a letter of application addressing qualifications, a CV, a statement of collection management philosophy, names and contact information for three references, and representative publications (optional). Salary range starting at $45,000 contingent upon qualifications. Initial review of applications begins July 18, 2022.
Job Description
1.   Collection management, conservation, and divisional operations (45%)

*         Ensure long-term integrity and preservation of collection and collection-storage environment.

*         Maintain and improve collection-care protocols.

*         Continue to develop and maintain Specify collection database.

*         Maintain and organize records of collection activity, use, and status for annual reports, grant submittals, and other documentation.

*         Process specimen loans, exchanges, and gifts; oversee specimens moving into and out of the collection; maintain appropriate records of such activities.

*         Collaborate with curators to plan and implement divisional goals, priorities, and programs.

*         Collaborate with other museum collection managers to achieve high quality collections care and economy of scale in all collections-related activities.

*         Assist and supervise users of the collection, including students, and help to train them as appropriate.

*         Respond to inquiries from scientists, governmental and consulting agencies, the public, and other users.

*         Participate in the museum's public programming by providing information and specimens and assisting in exhibit design; assist in museum public functions.

2. Collection strategic development, improvement, and acquisition (20%)
*         Organize and prepare documentation necessary for specimen accession, including national and international permits and associated documentation.
*         Oversee the preparation and staging of newly accessioned specimens, and the digital capture of associated data for their integration into the collection and collection database, respectively.
*         Foster research use of the collection by qualified researchers.
*         Improve the curatorial state of the collection as research use suggests and time permits.
*         Participate in acquisition of specimens by facilitating gifts and exchanges, and by occasional fieldwork and expeditions as approved by the curators.

3.   Supervision (20%)
*         Train and supervise graduate student curatorial assistant(s).
*         Hire, train, and supervise undergraduate assistants.
*         Train and supervise volunteers working in the collection.

4.   Professional development (10%)
*         Work closely with the entire BI collection management staff to ensure consistency of practice.
*         Participate in collection-management training and development through professional societies.
*         Undertake research in area of expertise when not in conflict with collection management duties.
*         Participate in relevant professional societies and workshops.

5. Other Divisional and Institutional duties as appropriate (5%)


Required qualifications:

  1.  Master's degree or other advanced degree in biology, entomology, museum studies or related field from an accredited university.
  2.  Working knowledge of the taxonomy and identification of insects.
  3.  Demonstrable knowledge of care and management of natural history collections, with a special emphasis on preventative conservation and collection-storage environments.
  4.  Familiarity with biodiversity informatics, including relational databases (e.g., Specify), web-based applications, and distributed networks.

Preferred qualifications:

  1.  Previous collection-management experience in a natural history collection, with a special emphasis on entomological collections.
  2.  Expertise in one or more taxa that constitute divisional strengths and programmatic priorities.
  3.  Working knowledge of specimen photography and associated equipment.
  4.  Experience supervising and training students and volunteers.

Position requirements:
Ability to lift up to 25 pounds and utilize ladders to reach cabinets and shelves with or without accommodations. This position is required to work on-site.

KU is an EO/AAE. All qualified applicants will receive consideration for employment without regard to race, color, religion, sex, age, national origin, disability, genetic information or protected Veteran status.  http://policy.ku.edu/IOA/nondiscrimination




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From ahendy at nhm.org  Tue May 24 12:02:13 2022
From: ahendy at nhm.org (Austin Hendy)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 09:02:13 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Job - Collections Manager of Invertebrate Paleontology,
 Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
Message-ID: <D2E3F1DF-0BDF-494C-80E5-B43FD23B77AB@nhm.org>

Dear colleagues

The Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County invites applications for a regular, full-time Collections Manager position. Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until the position is filled. To apply please follow the link here https://nhm.org/careers-our-museums/careers-natural-history-museum <https://nhm.org/careers-our-museums/careers-natural-history-museum> for Collection Manager - Invertebrate Paleontology.

________________________________
Austin Hendy
Curator
Invertebrate Paleontology
Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County
900 Exposition Blvd
Los Angeles, CA 90007



Collections Manager, Invertebrate Paleontology
Regular Full-Time
Los Angeles, CA, US

The Natural History Museum of LA County (NHMLAC) seeks a Collections Manager of Invertebrate Paleontology (IP). NHMLAC?s IP collection consists of approximately 450,000 lots and about 6-7 million fossil specimens that span the Phanerozoic, but with strengths in Cretaceous and Cenozoic marine invertebrates (particularly mollusks) of western North America.  NHMLAC  was the first museum in L.A. to open its doors 109 years ago and is poised for an exciting new era as it plans for the future. Having recently completed a new strategic framework, the Natural History Museums of Los Angeles County?including NHM at Exposition Park, La Brea Tar Pits and museum in mid-Wilshire, and the William S. Hart Museum in Newhall?is looking forward to new collections and research initiatives, building projects and campaigns, exhibitions, community outreach, and innovative audience engagement.

The Collections Manager will oversee the day-to-day operations of the IP collection, including processing loans and acquisitions, maintaining and improving database records, conserving and organizing specimens, managing physical improvements and digitization projects, facilitating the use of the collection by researchers, and supporting the needs of other NHMLAC department.  The Collections Manager will also train and supervise volunteers, students, and other personnel; this position is directly supervised by the Curator of Invertebrate Paleontology.  The primary work location for this position is the IP collection facility in Carson, CA, but some time will be spent at the main NHMLAC building in Exposition Park.  

The Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County values and endeavors to support diversity, equity, inclusion, and access within its organization and communities. Candidates who identify as Black, Indigenous, or a Person of Color (BIPOC), neurodiverse, a woman, a person with a disability, a veteran, and/or a part of the LGBTQAI+ community are welcome and encouraged to apply.  We are especially interested in candidates whose background and experience have prepared them to contribute to our commitment to engage and include culturally diverse audiences in museums and in science.  It is an exciting time as we embark on new journeys of becoming a museum of, for, and with L.A.

RESPONSIBILITIES:

	? Cares for the Invertebrate Paleontology collection on a day-?to-?day basis, including organizing and conserving specimens, preparing and processing loans and acquisitions, and facilitating collection visits.  Proposes, develops, and implements plans for collection growth and improvement. 

	? Provides documentation for the collection, including cataloging, entering/updating database records, inventorying, and enhancing documentation through digitization.  Responds to requests for information about the collection and shares collection records through external repositories.  

	? Participates in education and other public program activities of the Museum including but not limited to collection tours, supporting exhibitions, and participation in public museum events. Handles inquiries from the public and researchers.

	? Stays current with trends and techniques in collections management, collection-based research, conservation, digitization, biodiversity informatics, government regulations, and documentation relevant to the management of the IP collection. May lead or participate in ongoing or original research related to the collection.

	? Trains, supervises, and manages collections personnel, including interns, students and volunteers.

REQUIRED QUALIFICATIONS:

	? 3-5 years experience in the collection, organization, care and/or conservation of natural history specimens/collections; relevant experience may have been gained through work as a student or professional.  We expect qualified applicants will have either a substantial history of museum work or a bachelor?s or graduate degree in a related field and some museum work experience, but we encourage applicants in their cover letters to explain how their particular combination of education and experience qualifies them for the position.
	? Working knowledge of invertebrate taxonomy, geology, and the organization and management of invertebrate paleontology collections.
	? Experience with database software and common principles of biodiversity informatics.
	? Experience writing reports, grants, professional correspondence, and/or procedure manuals.
	? Experience effectively presenting information to and responding to questions from individuals or groups of managers, scientists, and the general public.

OTHER INFORMATION

The primary location for this job is at NHMLA?s Invertebrate Paleontology Collections & Research facility in Carson, CA.  Travel to the central NHM location in Exposition Park in Los Angeles will sometimes be required. Some offsite travel will be required. 

Applicants and employees are invited to identify reasonable accommodations that can be made to assist them to perform the essential functions of the position they seek or occupy. The incumbent must be able to perform this job safely, with reasonable accommodation if necessary, without endangering the health or safety of him/herself or others.

Review of applications will begin immediately and continue until the position is filled.  Submit a current CV, a cover letter describing how your experience, knowledge, and interest qualify you for this position, and the names and contact information of three professional references through the Museum?s employment site at https://nhm.org/careers-our-museums/careers-natural-history-museum <https://nhm.org/careers-our-museums/careers-natural-history-museum>.

The Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County is an Equal Opportunity Employer. Please contact jobs at nhm.org <mailto:jobs at nhm.org> for any application inquiries.

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From jwatters at ou.edu  Tue May 24 15:21:34 2022
From: jwatters at ou.edu (Watters, Jessa L.)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 19:21:34 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
In-Reply-To: <b5edcbc0091345afada5d455ad261ae6@NBMEX01.NBM.local>
References: <b5edcbc0091345afada5d455ad261ae6@NBMEX01.NBM.local>
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We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh

It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


___________________________________________________
Jessa Watters, M.S.
Collection Manager, Herpetology
Sam Noble Museum
2401 Chautauqua Ave.
Norman, OK 73072
jwatters at ou.edu
https://jessawatters.weebly.com/
405-325-7771 (phone)
405-325-7699 (fax)
https://samnoblemuseum.ou.edu/collections-and-research/herpetology/
pronouns: she, her, hers



From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
tel: (506) 643-2365
fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt

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From kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu  Tue May 24 16:03:12 2022
From: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu (Katrina Derieg)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 20:03:12 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won't grab it. I don't recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn't). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren't saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: "I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels..." because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I'm becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh

It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster...)
  3.  It doesn't seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly "standard" and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the "official" Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels...

Jessa


___________________________________________________
Jessa Watters, M.S.
Collection Manager, Herpetology
Sam Noble Museum
2401 Chautauqua Ave.
Norman, OK 73072
jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>
https://jessawatters.weebly.com/
405-325-7771 (phone)
405-325-7699 (fax)
https://samnoblemuseum.ou.edu/collections-and-research/herpetology/
pronouns: she, her, hers



From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don't want to run the risk of "Alphabet soup" in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d'histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
tel: (506) 643-2365
fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt

http://www.nbm-mnb.ca/<https://urldefense.com/v3/__http:/www.nbm-mnb.ca/__;!!GNU8KkXDZlD12Q!56lbnZS1_foWfdh4wFFp1XbQkvZdItQGWx5EXTsbPhqk0anZvrN-h7tLM6Tg7xB1Z_PgAMJR9rsNcZULXkyQmt2dGw$>



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From abentley at ku.edu  Tue May 24 16:17:13 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 20:17:13 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk%2Findustrial%2Fzx430i&data=05%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637890195649026577%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=n5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a%2BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c%3D&reserved=0>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
she/her

From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cdwg.com%2Fproduct%2Fhoneywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer%2F5712690%3Fpfm%3Dsrh&data=05%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637890195649026577%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=m5t0ehml6bj07HBfDvkrEp%2FKcF%2FwJ16bKcy%2FbDwATNU%3D&reserved=0>

It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


___________________________________________________
Jessa Watters, M.S.
Collection Manager, Herpetology
Sam Noble Museum
2401 Chautauqua Ave.
Norman, OK 73072
jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>
https://jessawatters.weebly.com/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjessawatters.weebly.com%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637890195649026577%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=QZEIqmq%2BjYFdx75jEL1lN2Y5yiuocS4UWxEy55kz5kA%3D&reserved=0>
405-325-7771 (phone)
405-325-7699 (fax)
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
tel: (506) 643-2365
fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt

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From rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu  Tue May 24 16:27:49 2022
From: rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu (Rob Robins)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 20:27:49 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
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Search the Collection:
http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/

Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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Sam Noble Museum
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

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From dina.clark at colorado.edu  Tue May 24 17:39:55 2022
From: dina.clark at colorado.edu (Dina Clark)
Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 21:39:55 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] processing and storing gymnosperm collections
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Good Afternoon,

We are reassessing how we both process and house our gymnosperm collections, especially specimens with larger cones. Curious to know if other institutions keep cones with their associated specimen sheets or are they curated separately in the collection? If entire specimens are kept together, what are your storage methods since the specimens are so bulky?

Thanks in advance for your replies.

Dina


Dina Clark
Collection Manager, Herbarium COLO
University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
Boulder, CO  80309
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From Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca  Wed May 25 08:09:05 2022
From: Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca (Mary Sollows)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:09:05 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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Thermal printer update at the New Brunswick  Museum: 
We have just placed an order for a Cab Squix 4 thermal printer and I will post a progress report to the listserve in a  couple of months. Thank you so much for the feedback to date. This listserve is a great resource.

Thanks,
Mary Sollows
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From: Rob Robins [rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 5:27 PM
To: Bentley, Andrew Charles; Katrina Derieg; Watters, Jessa L.; Mary Sollows; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: RE: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
[FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
Florida Museum
1659 Museum Rd.
Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
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Search the Collection:
http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/

Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

[External Email]

Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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Jessa Watters, M.S.
Collection Manager, Herpetology
Sam Noble Museum
2401 Chautauqua Ave.
Norman, OK 73072
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
tel: (506) 643-2365
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From Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov  Wed May 25 08:51:51 2022
From: Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov (Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS])
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:51:51 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway, it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a  couple vertical lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time, after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that point there wasn?t much we could do.
Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell, and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us. I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a few weeks.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
USA

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Rob Robins
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:28 PM
To: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>; Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

Robert H. Robins
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Division of Ichthyology
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Florida Museum
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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Sam Noble Museum
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

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From: cindy-opitz at uiowa.edu (Opitz, Cindy E)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 13:30:10 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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Our Datamax printer also ?printed? blank lines across labels, but our IT folks adjusted the print density, which took care of the problem.

Cindy Opitz (she/her)
Director of Research Collections
Museum of Natural History and Old Capitol Museum
Instructor, Museum Studies Certificate Program
The University of Iowa
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 7:52 AM
To: Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>; Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>; Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway, it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a  couple vertical lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time, after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that point there wasn?t much we could do.
Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell, and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us. I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a few weeks.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
USA

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I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

Robert H. Robins
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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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Jessa Watters, M.S.
Collection Manager, Herpetology
Sam Noble Museum
2401 Chautauqua Ave.
Norman, OK 73072
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
tel: (506) 643-2365
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From Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov  Wed May 25 09:58:25 2022
From: Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov (Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS])
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 13:58:25 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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Oh, we tried that too. It improved the print quality, but never fully got rid of the lines. I don?t exaggerate when I say we worked on the issue for weeks (maybe even months), on the phone with Datamax, and we tried several different fixes. We cleaned the print head, we tried switching ribbons, loaded and unloaded multiple times, adjusted the print speed, darkness/density, etc. I think we tried every fix down their flow chart until the ?defective printhead? box was reached, but because I let the ticket sit for a few weeks and it got closed, and by then we were out of warranty, we were told we?d have to pay for the replacement and shipping of the printer to their tech division. At that point we were on the wrong end of the fiscal year and all out of money. It was an ongoing issue that was never resolved, but they had the loophole of having automatically closed the support ticket because I failed to keep it open.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
USA

Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us<mailto:Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us>
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Our Datamax printer also ?printed? blank lines across labels, but our IT folks adjusted the print density, which took care of the problem.

Cindy Opitz (she/her)
Director of Research Collections
Museum of Natural History and Old Capitol Museum
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 7:52 AM
To: Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>>; Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>>; Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway, it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a  couple vertical lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time, after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that point there wasn?t much we could do.
Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell, and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us. I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a few weeks.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
USA

Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us<mailto:Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us>
From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Rob Robins
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:28 PM
To: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>>; Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

Robert H. Robins
Collection Manager
Division of Ichthyology
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Florida Museum
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Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
Office: (352) 273-1957
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

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From JMGAGNON at nature.ca  Wed May 25 10:55:41 2022
From: JMGAGNON at nature.ca (Jean-Marc Gagnon)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 14:55:41 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] [EXT]Re:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
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Rodrigo,

I was glad our experience with the Zebra Thermal Printer, especially the writing of procedures to make it work well, served you well. I?ll be happy to share this document with anyone else who has a similar Zebra printer.

But I also wanted to point out, if I haven?t done so already in the past, that we had a very similar experience as you did with one of our two Datamax; one worked perfectly from the start and the other never did. We actually did get the printhead replace under the warranty but it did not change anything, and by the time we had diagnosed the problem again, the warranty had run out. The only thing we can do with it is print 1-inch wide microscopic slide labels. Only 1 inch out of the 4-inch printhead width works decently.

My impression, after trying to make it work with two different printhead, is that the current regulation was defective. I am not an electronic engineer but that was my best guess. And from what I hear, what ever the problem, it is not uncommon. It looks like every other thermal printer has serious challenges (and I would not exclude Zebra or any other make).

Best of luck,

Jean-Marc

Jean-Marc Gagnon, Ph.D. (he/him/his) (il/lui)
Curator, Invertebrate Collections / Chief Scientist
Conservateur, Collection des invert?br?s / Expert scientifique en chef
Canadian Museum of Nature / Mus?e canadien de la nature
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]
Sent: May 25, 2022 9:58 AM
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Subject: [EXT]Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Oh, we tried that too. It improved the print quality, but never fully got rid of the lines. I don?t exaggerate when I say we worked on the issue for weeks (maybe even months), on the phone with Datamax, and we tried several different fixes. We cleaned the print head, we tried switching ribbons, loaded and unloaded multiple times, adjusted the print speed, darkness/density, etc. I think we tried every fix down their flow chart until the ?defective printhead? box was reached, but because I let the ticket sit for a few weeks and it got closed, and by then we were out of warranty, we were told we?d have to pay for the replacement and shipping of the printer to their tech division. At that point we were on the wrong end of the fiscal year and all out of money. It was an ongoing issue that was never resolved, but they had the loophole of having automatically closed the support ticket because I failed to keep it open.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
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From: Opitz, Cindy E <cindy-opitz at uiowa.edu<mailto:cindy-opitz at uiowa.edu>>
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To: Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS] <Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov<mailto:Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov>>; Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>>; Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>>; Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Our Datamax printer also ?printed? blank lines across labels, but our IT folks adjusted the print density, which took care of the problem.

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway, it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a  couple vertical lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time, after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that point there wasn?t much we could do.
Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell, and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us. I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a few weeks.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

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Katrina

I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

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From abentley at ku.edu  Wed May 25 10:57:44 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 14:57:44 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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We too had issues with streaking on or labels (areas of non-printing) and eventually chalked it down to the ribbon return spool.  If the return spool is not in perfect alignment with the feed spool, it causes the ribbon to wrinkle as it goes through the print head and thus cause these areas of non-printing.  We eventually cut the ribbon off the return spool and let it feed out the front of the printer with the media.  This had the added bonus of allowing more time for the print to ?settle? on the media which produced a much more consistent print.  Granted, you have to peel the ribbon off every label, but that is a small price to pay for consistent, good labels.  Another factor is the cleanliness of the print head.  If your printer is in a dusty environment it is always advisable to clean the print head every so often to remove any dust or debris that has accumulated and may cause similar non-printing streaks.  We use a cotton swab with 95% ethanol to lightly swab the print head every so often to clean it.  Just make sure that the printer is turned off when you do it.

Andy
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Subject: RE: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

Oh, we tried that too. It improved the print quality, but never fully got rid of the lines. I don?t exaggerate when I say we worked on the issue for weeks (maybe even months), on the phone with Datamax, and we tried several different fixes. We cleaned the print head, we tried switching ribbons, loaded and unloaded multiple times, adjusted the print speed, darkness/density, etc. I think we tried every fix down their flow chart until the ?defective printhead? box was reached, but because I let the ticket sit for a few weeks and it got closed, and by then we were out of warranty, we were told we?d have to pay for the replacement and shipping of the printer to their tech division. At that point we were on the wrong end of the fiscal year and all out of money. It was an ongoing issue that was never resolved, but they had the loophole of having automatically closed the support ticket because I failed to keep it open.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
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Our Datamax printer also ?printed? blank lines across labels, but our IT folks adjusted the print density, which took care of the problem.

Cindy Opitz (she/her)
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Museum of Natural History and Old Capitol Museum
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway, it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a  couple vertical lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time, after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that point there wasn?t much we could do.
Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell, and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us. I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a few weeks.

Rod

Rodrigo Pellegrini
Registrar, Natural History Bureau
New Jersey State Museum
PO Box 530
Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
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I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.

We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and this is helpful.

I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and reliable synched with your systems and up and running.

Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.

Best,

Rob

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I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and operate?

Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II somewhere.  They are really good ?

Thanks

Andy
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To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i: https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Furldefense.proofpoint.com%2Fv2%2Furl%3Fu%3Dhttps-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0%26d%3DDwMGaQ%26c%3DsJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg%26r%3DMCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ%26m%3DsTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC%26s%3DUHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I%26e%3D&data=05%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7Cbe45bd1ccb944fa3e08e08da3e56a7ce%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637890839169616096%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=DrvJK3iLBpkmFqsj3x9EJLL36qdlVhG65nqpZywQDZA%3D&reserved=0>
Pros:

  *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
  *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
  *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.

Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t). I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the settings were before.

I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.

I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.

Best of luck to you!

Katrina Derieg
Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
301 Wakara Way
Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
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It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand dollars. Details are as follows:

  1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
  2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting with cause it to die out faster?)
  3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels worth of media after each label.
  4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the company seemed confused by this concept)
  5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)

We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the company.

In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10 labels?

Jessa


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Jessa Watters, M.S.
Collection Manager, Herpetology
Sam Noble Museum
2401 Chautauqua Ave.
Norman, OK 73072
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
Hello,

I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB, SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.

Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.

I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.

Best regards,

Mary Sollows
Invertebrate Zoology
Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
277 Douglas Ave.
Saint John, New Brunswick
Canada  E2K 1E5

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From dyanega at gmail.com  Wed May 25 11:51:12 2022
From: dyanega at gmail.com (Douglas Yanega)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 08:51:12 -0700
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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A model no one has mentioned (perhaps very few institutions use one 
aside from us and the AMNH) is the SATO M-84Pro.

This machine is very old, very clunky, requires very old software to run 
(we have a dedicated Windows 2000 machine, without which we can't 
interface with it), and is astonishingly slow. We use it to print 
barcode labels for specimens, and it prints 13 labels in a row each 
iteration. Each iteration takes ~100 seconds. That's something like 7 or 
8 labels a minute, and we often print thousands of labels in one job, so 
it sometimes prints all day long to finish a job. It uses datamax 
rolls/ribbons ("Datamax 4x500 poly tag continuous"), which we have been 
sourcing from Alpha Systems (alphasystemsva.com).

The plus side is that it is *very* low-tech, and rarely has need of any 
form of maintenance. It's nearly 20 years old, and the few problems 
we've had with it were all something we were able to fix ourselves.

I keep expecting it to die, and I do read threads here regarding other 
printers, planning for the eventuality of replacing it, but it hasn't 
happened yet. Perhaps the one thing I'd be curious about is whether 
there are other places besides Alpha Systems where folks have found the 
pricing significantly better for the same printing supplies, since it 
looks like our printer uses the same rolls and ribbons that many others 
are using. It's been a long time since we've needed to re-order, but 
it's in the foreseeable future.

Peace,

-- 
Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
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From abentley at ku.edu  Wed May 25 13:15:50 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 17:15:50 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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Doug

In answer to your question about supplies, I get the impression that the ribbon pricing from Alpha Systems is pretty standard.  The SDR5+ ribbon is a specialty item that is not easy to source from traditional vendors.  The media on the other hand is another story.  Alpha Systems has been fairly cagey about the makeup of the media.  All we know is that it is matt spun bound polyester.  I have tried sourcing it from other vendors without much luck and when I have found it they are unable to supply it in the 4 inch wide variety that we need without additional cost.  I must admit that I have not tried extremely hard to source other vendors as we have been very happy with the service we have received from Alpha Systems.

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Douglas Yanega
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 10:51 AM
To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.


A model no one has mentioned (perhaps very few institutions use one aside from us and the AMNH) is the SATO M-84Pro.

This machine is very old, very clunky, requires very old software to run (we have a dedicated Windows 2000 machine, without which we can't interface with it), and is astonishingly slow. We use it to print barcode labels for specimens, and it prints 13 labels in a row each iteration. Each iteration takes ~100 seconds. That's something like 7 or 8 labels a minute, and we often print thousands of labels in one job, so it sometimes prints all day long to finish a job. It uses datamax rolls/ribbons ("Datamax 4x500 poly tag continuous"), which we have been sourcing from Alpha Systems (alphasystemsva.com).

The plus side is that it is very low-tech, and rarely has need of any form of maintenance. It's nearly 20 years old, and the few problems we've had with it were all something we were able to fix ourselves.

I keep expecting it to die, and I do read threads here regarding other printers, planning for the eventuality of replacing it, but it hasn't happened yet. Perhaps the one thing I'd be curious about is whether there are other places besides Alpha Systems where folks have found the pricing significantly better for the same printing supplies, since it looks like our printer uses the same rolls and ribbons that many others are using. It's been a long time since we've needed to re-order, but it's in the foreseeable future.

Peace,

--

Doug Yanega      Dept. of Entomology       Entomology Research Museum

Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314     skype: dyanega

phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)

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From lls94 at cornell.edu  Wed May 25 13:35:24 2022
From: lls94 at cornell.edu (Leslie L Skibinski)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 17:35:24 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Community standards for 3-D models for research purposes
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of any community standards for producing 3-D models for research purposes?  What types of software? What types of hardware?  Price? How/where do you store them?   We are exploring the option of producing research grade models of our Type specimens to use for loans in conjunction with good, high-quality photographs.  Our Science Education department doses produce photogrammetry models for educational use.  You can see them on the Digital Atlas of Ancient Life  https://www.digitalatlasofancientlife.org/  We know that these are not of high enough quality for research, but they are very useful for education and possible identification.

Any thoughts, caveats, advice, or knowledge would be appreciated.  You can contact me off list if you would like.  Details below. Thanks

--Leslie


Leslie L. Skibinski
Collection Manager

Paleontological Research Institution
1259 Trumansburg Road
Ithaca, New York  14850
Phone:  (607) 273-6623  ext. 128
Fax:  (607) 273-6620
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From abentley at ku.edu  Wed May 25 13:46:20 2022
From: abentley at ku.edu (Bentley, Andrew Charles)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 17:46:20 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Community standards for 3-D models for research
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Leslie

There were a couple of good talks given at the iDigBio Digital Data meeting the last couple of days that address some of these issues - https://www.idigbio.org/wiki/index.php/6th_Annual_Digital_Data_Conference,_Field_Museum.  There will be recordings of all talks that will be posted soon.

Andy
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From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Leslie L Skibinski
Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 12:35 PM
To: NHCOLL-L (nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu) <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Community standards for 3-D models for research purposes

Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of any community standards for producing 3-D models for research purposes?  What types of software? What types of hardware?  Price? How/where do you store them?   We are exploring the option of producing research grade models of our Type specimens to use for loans in conjunction with good, high-quality photographs.  Our Science Education department doses produce photogrammetry models for educational use.  You can see them on the Digital Atlas of Ancient Life  https://www.digitalatlasofancientlife.org/<https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalatlasofancientlife.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0de5eb278c53437b484e08da3e74f766%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637890969338835110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gTNCR6d4PKNIIQBMDFKTZ1OXcHmL8ep0M96NJeRhWk0%3D&reserved=0>  We know that these are not of high enough quality for research, but they are very useful for education and possible identification.

Any thoughts, caveats, advice, or knowledge would be appreciated.  You can contact me off list if you would like.  Details below. Thanks

--Leslie


Leslie L. Skibinski
Collection Manager

Paleontological Research Institution
1259 Trumansburg Road
Ithaca, New York  14850
Phone:  (607) 273-6623  ext. 128
Fax:  (607) 273-6620
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From ewommack at uwyo.edu  Wed May 25 15:34:16 2022
From: ewommack at uwyo.edu (Elizabeth Wommack)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 13:34:16 -0600
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Community standards for 3-D models for research
 purposes
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Hi Lesley,

There was also a really nice iDigBio seminar on 3D scanning and the
recording as available now: https://vimeo.com/709544469

cheers
Beth

On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 11:46 AM Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>
wrote:

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> There were a couple of good talks given at the iDigBio Digital Data
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> https://www.idigbio.org/wiki/index.php/6th_Annual_Digital_Data_Conference,_Field_Museum.
> There will be recordings of all talks that will be posted soon.
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>
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> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> USA
>
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> *Subject:* [Nhcoll-l] Community standards for 3-D models for research
> purposes
>
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
>
>
> Does anyone know of any community standards for producing 3-D models for
> research purposes?  What types of software? What types of hardware?  Price?
> How/where do you store them?   We are exploring the option of producing
> research grade models of our Type specimens to use for loans in conjunction
> with good, high-quality photographs.  Our Science Education department
> doses produce photogrammetry models for educational use.  You can see them
> on the Digital Atlas of Ancient Life
> https://www.digitalatlasofancientlife.org/
> <https://nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalatlasofancientlife.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cabentley%40ku.edu%7C0de5eb278c53437b484e08da3e74f766%7C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a%7C0%7C0%7C637890969338835110%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=gTNCR6d4PKNIIQBMDFKTZ1OXcHmL8ep0M96NJeRhWk0%3D&reserved=0>
> We know that these are not of high enough quality for research, but they
> are very useful for education and possible identification.
>
>
>
> Any thoughts, caveats, advice, or knowledge would be appreciated.  You can
> contact me off list if you would like.  Details below. Thanks
>
>
>
> --Leslie
>
>
>
>
>
> Leslie L. Skibinski
>
> Collection Manager
>
>
>
> Paleontological Research Institution
>
> 1259 Trumansburg Road
>
> Ithaca, New York  14850
>
> Phone:  (607) 273-6623  ext. 128
>
> Fax:  (607) 273-6620
>
> lls94 at cornell.edu
>
> skibinski at priweb.org
>
>
>


-- 
Elizabeth Wommack, PhD
Curator and Collections Manager of Vertebrates
University of Wyoming Museum of Vertebrates
Berry Biodiversity Conservation Center
University of Wyoming,
Laramie, WY 82071
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From Brian.Sidlauskas at oregonstate.edu  Wed May 25 15:44:15 2022
From: Brian.Sidlauskas at oregonstate.edu (Sidlauskas, Brian)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 19:44:15 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Community standards for 3-D models for research
 purposes
Message-ID: <E38E168B-8B7A-45B0-B77D-821E58DE3C3D@oregonstate.edu>

Hi Leslie,

Thaddaeus Buser led a workflow paper in 2020 that addresses some of these topics, particularly with respect to recommended open-access software.  Here?s a citation and link that might be of interest.  I hope it is helpful!

T J Buser, O F Boyd, ? Cort?s, C M Donatelli, M A Kolmann, J L Luparell, J A Pfeiffenberger, B L Sidlauskas, A P Summers, The Natural Historian's Guide to the CT Galaxy: Step-by-Step Instructions for Preparing and Analyzing Computed Tomographic (CT) Data Using Cross-Platform, Open Access Software, Integrative Organismal Biology, Volume 2, Issue 1, 2020, obaa009, https://doi.org/10.1093/iob/obaa009

Best Fishes,

--- Brian

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Department of Fisheries, Wildlife and Conservation Sciences
Oregon State University
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Hi everyone,

Does anyone know of any community standards for producing 3-D models for research purposes?  What types of software? What types of hardware?  Price? How/where do you store them?   We are exploring the option of producing research grade models of our Type specimens to use for loans in conjunction with good, high-quality photographs.  Our Science Education department doses produce photogrammetry models for educational use.  You can see them on the Digital Atlas of Ancient Life  https://www.digitalatlasofancientlife.org/<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.digitalatlasofancientlife.org%2F&data=05%7C01%7Cbrian.sidlauskas%40oregonstate.edu%7C0fbb5f90f0eb4b7d491808da3e74f7a4%7Cce6d05e13c5e4d6287a84c4a2713c113%7C0%7C0%7C637890969343503281%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C2000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=IxXmjVdcsUxkbL%2ByS3rL4o2Ou5rRf4ayNXcX5%2BoxZWs%3D&reserved=0>  We know that these are not of high enough quality for research, but they are very useful for education and possible identification.

Any thoughts, caveats, advice, or knowledge would be appreciated.  You can contact me off list if you would like.  Details below. Thanks

--Leslie


Leslie L. Skibinski
Collection Manager

Paleontological Research Institution
1259 Trumansburg Road
Ithaca, New York  14850
Phone:  (607) 273-6623  ext. 128
Fax:  (607) 273-6620
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From cniezgoda at fieldmuseum.org  Wed May 25 21:39:45 2022
From: cniezgoda at fieldmuseum.org (Christine Niezgoda)
Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 20:39:45 -0500
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 120, Issue 7
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Dina Clark <dina.clark at colorado.edu>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] processing and storing gymnosperm collections
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Field Museum has a large cone collection associated with our herbarium
specimens.  We keep them in a separate storage system of drawers that is
adjacent to the herbarium cases housing  the gymnosperm sheets.  They are
all databased and imaged.    We add a small label "Cone Collection" to the
sheet and in the database we have a field that specifies Herbarium
Sheet/Cone Collection as an alert.  The cones are kept in  archival
polyethylene bags  vs. boxes due to them occupying less space with this
type of storage.  Within the plastic bag is a copy of the herbarium label ;
outside it is labeled with the catalog number of the sheet and color coded
with our geographic color code (e.g., Orange/SA, Red/CA,  etc..).  The
database has images of both the sheet and cones attached to the
original record.  The cones are filed in the same way as in the herbarium
and each of the drawers has configurable slots to accommodate different
sizes of cones.

Let me know if you have questions and/or need some pictures of our system.

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> To: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>, Katrina Derieg
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> I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so
> thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.
>
> We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and
> this is helpful.
>
> I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and
> reliable synched with your systems and up and running.
>
> Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> Robert H. Robins
> Collection Manager
> Division of Ichthyology
> [FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
> Florida Museum
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> Office: (352) 273-1957
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> Search the Collection:
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> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
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> [cid:image002.jpg at 01D86F8B.348C5920]
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley,
> Andrew Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
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> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> [External Email]
> Katrina
>
> I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old
> model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a
> day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity
> of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new
> printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the
> Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the
> part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon
> and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been
> using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have
> been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They
> have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as
> attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any
> experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and
> operate?
>
> Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II
> somewhere.  They are really good ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
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> Dyche Hall
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> USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258<
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
> To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i:
> https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<
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> >
> Pros:
>
>   *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter
> (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
>   *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
>   *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
> Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.
>
> Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to
> hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or
> else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it
> curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will
> cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the
> second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t).
> I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer
> off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer
> on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the
> settings were before.
>
> I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week
> printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have
> been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.
>
> I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way
> to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
> Katrina Derieg
> Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
> 301 Wakara Way
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
> Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
> Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
> she/her
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
>
> https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh
> <
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> >
>
> It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand
> dollars. Details are as follows:
>
>   1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our
> in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
>   2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and
> it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting
> (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting
> with cause it to die out faster?)
>   3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly
> ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to
> open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into
> recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels
> worth of media after each label.
>   4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if
> that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the
> company seemed confused by this concept)
>   5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels
> there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do
> weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)
>
> We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue
> (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media
> sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing
> multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a
> month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy
> it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the
> company.
>
> In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10
> labels?
>
> Jessa
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Jessa Watters, M.S.
> Collection Manager, Herpetology
> Sam Noble Museum
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
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> 405-325-7699 (fax)
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> pronouns: she, her, hers
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal
> label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
> VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB,
> SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND
> TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.
>
> Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year
> because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned
> it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been
> offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the
> HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have
> thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate
> media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in
> the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a
> large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the
> past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mary Sollows
> Invertebrate Zoology
> Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
> New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
> 277 Douglas Ave.
> Saint John, New Brunswick
> Canada  E2K 1E5
>
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> tel: (506) 643-2365
> fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt
>
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> Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 21:39:55 +0000
> From: Dina Clark <dina.clark at colorado.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] processing and storing gymnosperm collections
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> Good Afternoon,
>
> We are reassessing how we both process and house our gymnosperm
> collections, especially specimens with larger cones. Curious to know if
> other institutions keep cones with their associated specimen sheets or are
> they curated separately in the collection? If entire specimens are kept
> together, what are your storage methods since the specimens are so bulky?
>
> Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
> Dina
>
>
> Dina Clark
> Collection Manager, Herbarium COLO
> University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
> Boulder, CO  80309
> 303-492-3216
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> Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:09:05 +0000
> From: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL
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> Thermal printer update at the New Brunswick  Museum:
> We have just placed an order for a Cab Squix 4 thermal printer and I will
> post a progress report to the listserve in a  couple of months. Thank you
> so much for the feedback to date. This listserve is a great resource.
>
> Thanks,
> Mary Sollows
> ________________________________________
> From: Rob Robins [rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 5:27 PM
> To: Bentley, Andrew Charles; Katrina Derieg; Watters, Jessa L.; Mary
> Sollows; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: RE: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so
> thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.
>
> We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and
> this is helpful.
>
> I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and
> reliable synched with your systems and up and running.
>
> Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> Robert H. Robins
> Collection Manager
> Division of Ichthyology
> [FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
> Florida Museum
> 1659 Museum Rd.
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
> Office: (352) 273-1957
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
>
> Search the Collection:
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley,
> Andrew Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
> To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <
> jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> [External Email]
>
> Katrina
>
> I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old
> model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a
> day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity
> of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new
> printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the
> Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the
> part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon
> and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been
> using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have
> been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They
> have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as
> attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any
> experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and
> operate?
>
> Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II
> somewhere.  They are really good ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> USA
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258<
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
> To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i:
> https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<
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> >
> Pros:
>
>   *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter
> (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
>   *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
>   *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
> Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.
>
> Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to
> hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or
> else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it
> curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will
> cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the
> second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t).
> I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer
> off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer
> on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the
> settings were before.
>
> I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week
> printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have
> been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.
>
> I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way
> to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
> Katrina Derieg
> Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
> 301 Wakara Way
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
> Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
> Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
> she/her
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
>
> https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh
> <
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> >
>
> It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand
> dollars. Details are as follows:
>
>   1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our
> in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
>   2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and
> it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting
> (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting
> with cause it to die out faster?)
>   3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly
> ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to
> open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into
> recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels
> worth of media after each label.
>   4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if
> that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the
> company seemed confused by this concept)
>   5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels
> there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do
> weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)
>
> We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue
> (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media
> sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing
> multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a
> month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy
> it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the
> company.
>
> In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10
> labels?
>
> Jessa
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Jessa Watters, M.S.
> Collection Manager, Herpetology
> Sam Noble Museum
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
> jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>
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> 405-325-7771 (phone)
> 405-325-7699 (fax)
> https://samnoblemuseum.ou.edu/collections-and-research/herpetology/<
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> pronouns: she, her, hers
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal
> label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
> VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB,
> SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND
> TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.
>
> Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year
> because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned
> it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been
> offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the
> HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have
> thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate
> media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in
> the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a
> large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the
> past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mary Sollows
> Invertebrate Zoology
> Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
> New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
> 277 Douglas Ave.
> Saint John, New Brunswick
> Canada  E2K 1E5
>
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> tel: (506) 643-2365
> fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt
>
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> Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:51:51 +0000
> From: "Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]" <Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov>
> To: Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>, "Bentley, Andrew Charles"
>         <abentley at ku.edu>, Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>,
> "Watters,
>         Jessa L." <jwatters at ou.edu>, Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca
> >,
>         "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
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> We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it
> never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from
> Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations
> are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway,
> it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a  couple vertical
> lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced
> the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time,
> after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the
> support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective
> print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live
> with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that
> point there wasn?t much we could do.
> Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a
> replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell,
> and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up
> with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
> We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at
> first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are
> spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the
> ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple
> weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra
> takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
> Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has
> been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it
> than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us.
> I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality
> of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t
> treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a
> few weeks.
>
> Rod
>
> Rodrigo Pellegrini
> Registrar, Natural History Bureau
> New Jersey State Museum
> PO Box 530
> Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
> USA
>
> Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us<mailto:
> Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Rob Robins
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:28 PM
> To: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>; Katrina Derieg <
> kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows
> <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER
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> I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so
> thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.
>
> We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and
> this is helpful.
>
> I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and
> reliable synched with your systems and up and running.
>
> Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> Robert H. Robins
> Collection Manager
> Division of Ichthyology
> [FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
> Florida Museum
> 1659 Museum Rd.
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
> Office: (352) 273-1957
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
>
> Search the Collection:
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
> To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>>;
> Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows
> <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> [External Email]
> Katrina
>
> I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly.  We have an old
> model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years.  Not a
> day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity
> of the labels produced.  I suspect this may be growing pains with new
> printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the
> Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the
> part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX.  It may also be a bad combination of ribbon
> and media as his is important for good print quality.  We have also been
> using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have
> been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs.  They
> have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as
> attached since Datamax went off the market.  Does anyone have any
> experience with these?  Are they more reliable, easier to set up and
> operate?
>
> Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II
> somewhere.  They are really good ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
> To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i:
> https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=
> >
> Pros:
>
>   *   Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter
> (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
>   *   Prints tiny characters very clearly
>   *   Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
> Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.
>
> Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to
> hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or
> else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it
> curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will
> cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the
> second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t).
> I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer
> off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer
> on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the
> settings were before.
>
> I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week
> printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have
> been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.
>
> I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way
> to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
> Katrina Derieg
> Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
> 301 Wakara Way
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
> Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
> Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
> she/her
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
>
> https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh
> <
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> >
>
> It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand
> dollars. Details are as follows:
>
>   1.  Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our
> in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
>   2.  It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and
> it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting
> (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting
> with cause it to die out faster?)
>   3.  It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly
> ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to
> open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into
> recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels
> worth of media after each label.
>   4.  There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if
> that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the
> company seemed confused by this concept)
>   5.  We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels
> there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do
> weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)
>
> We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue
> (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media
> sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing
> multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a
> month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy
> it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the
> company.
>
> In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10
> labels?
>
> Jessa
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Jessa Watters, M.S.
> Collection Manager, Herpetology
> Sam Noble Museum
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
> jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>
> https://jessawatters.weebly.com/<
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> >
> 405-325-7771 (phone)
> 405-325-7699 (fax)
> https://samnoblemuseum.ou.edu/collections-and-research/herpetology/<
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> >
> pronouns: she, her, hers
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal
> label printer for collections stored in ethanol:  HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
> VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB,
> SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND
> TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.
>
> Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year
> because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option.  We returned
> it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been
> offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the
> HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have
> thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate
> media and SDR ribbon?  I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in
> the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a
> large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the
> past 2 years.  As always, I really appreciate your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mary Sollows
> Invertebrate Zoology
> Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
> New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
> 277 Douglas Ave.
> Saint John, New Brunswick
> Canada  E2K 1E5
>
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> tel: (506) 643-2365
> fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt
>
> http://www.nbm-mnb.ca/<
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From vmathis at flmnh.ufl.edu  Thu May 26 13:17:04 2022
From: vmathis at flmnh.ufl.edu (Mathis,Verity L)
Date: Thu, 26 May 2022 17:17:04 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Vertebrate Paleontology Collections Manager position
 announcement- Florida Museum of Natural History, University of Florida
Message-ID: <BN6PR22MB04975EFB46FA090FAFCDD41CECD99@BN6PR22MB0497.namprd22.prod.outlook.com>

Apologies for any cross-posting, please share widely!  The Florida Museum of Natural History is hiring a full-time Vertebrate Paleontology Collections Manager. You can read the job announcement and find the link to apply here: https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/nhdept/vertebrate-paleontology-collections-manager-ii/ or also see below.  Applications will be accepted until 11:55 p.m. (ET) on June 24, 2022.

******************************
Verity L. Mathis, Ph.D.
Mammal Collections Manager
Florida Museum of Natural History
University of Florida
1659 Museum Road
Gainesville FL 32611
Phone: (352) 273-2114
Email: vmathis at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:vmathis at flmnh.ufl.edu>
Website: https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/mammals/
Google Scholar for FLMNH Mammal Collection: https://tinyurl.com/flmnh-mammals

Vertebrate Paleontology Collections Manager
Florida Museum of Natural History, University of Florida

The Florida Museum of Natural History (FM)<https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/> is hiring an experienced full-time Vertebrate Paleontology Collections Manager within the Department of Natural History<https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/nhdept/>. The Vertebrate Paleontology<https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/vertpaleo/> division currently consists of two curators, three full-time staff, and 10 graduate students. It has an extensive collection (~1,000,000 specimens) of primarily Cenozoic vertebrate fossils that form the basis for a wide variety of paleontological research. This full-time, TEAMS exempt staff position will manage all aspects of the vertebrate paleontology research collections, supervise local annual fossil digs, oversee the Vertebrate Paleontology Permit Program, participate in public outreach, and contribute to the research goals of the institution.

Job Description

  *   Manage all aspects of an active vertebrate paleontology research collection and library. This includes curation, conservation, organization, digitization, loans, and accessions of fossils, books, and related items; maintaining the Vertebrate Paleontology collection in an orderly and well-organized manner; purchasing equipment and supplies to perform these tasks and managing UFF endowment funding for collections and library.
  *   Coordinate and assist research by students, curators, and visiting scholars.
  *   Supervise other UF collections and preparation staff assigned to Vertebrate Paleontology as well as students and volunteers.
  *   Respond to requests for fossil identifications and loans as well as use of/downloads of 2D & 3D image data.
  *   Assist VP curators in writing reports and grants in support of the collection.
  *   Work with curators and staff to organize and participate in outreach events for the public, amateur fossil collectors, school children and educators, and other interested groups.
  *   Work with curators and staff to run fossil digs open to public with volunteers and students.
  *   Oversee Vertebrate Paleontology Permit Program (fossil collecting permits).
  *   Generate, edit, manage, and update content on the division's public web sites.
  *   Maintain an independent research program in vertebrate paleontology

Expected salary: $55,000-$62,000 commensurate with education and experience.

Minimum Requirements
Bachelor's degree in an appropriate area of specialization and five (5) years of appropriate experience working with vertebrate paleontology collections. Specific knowledge of the discipline is required.

Preferred Qualifications

  *   Experience managing vertebrate paleontology collections or in a similar leadership role supervising staff.
  *   Ph.D. degree in an appropriate area of specialization such as geology or biology and at least five (5) years of experience in identification, care, analysis and cataloging of vertebrate paleontology collections.
  *   Extensive knowledge and experience with the field of vertebrate paleontology and curatorial procedures in a modern museum including standards of conservation, computer cataloging, and virtual 3D collections.???
  *   Physically able to safely collect, move and handle vertebrate fossils.
  *   Experience with identification of North American Cenozoic vertebrate fossils from a broad range of classes, in particular Mammalia and Reptilia. As most of the collection is from either the Neogene or Pleistocene, preference for someone whose expertise and experience includes fossils from either or both of those time intervals.
  *   Experience using a computer database for curation of museum specimens, especially Specify.
  *   Experience working with or supervising students and volunteers in museum and field settings.

Special Instructions to Applicants

Interested applicants must apply online at https://explore.jobs.ufl.edu/en-us/job/522115/museum-collection-manager-ii. In order to be considered you must upload 1) a professional CV or resum?, 2) a cover letter highlighting relevant experience in vertebrate paleontology, collections management, public fossil digs and other outreach programs, and other professional background, and 3) a statement, no more than two pages, describing your approach to collections management in a university-based museum. The statement should also address the applicant's past and current contributions to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) and/or future aspirations for increasing DEI within the context of the FM and UF. Application must be submitted by 11:55 p.m. (ET) on June 24, 2022.

The Florida Museum's Commitment to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion
At FM, we strive to create a more diverse and inclusive student, faculty, and staff experience at the University of Florida. As a university-based museum, we believe it is essential that we, as educators, develop pathways for learners of all ages and wide-ranging audiences toward increased diversity, equity, accessibility, and inclusion in STEM and Social Science disciplines and workforces. We are committed to the ongoing self-reflection and work needed to serve students from historically underrepresented groups within the greater University of Florida community, especially through student mentorship, teaching, public outreach, and experiential learning opportunities. Candidates who, through their job duties, teaching, and/or service, will contribute to the diversity and excellence of the UF community are encouraged to apply.

The University of Florida<https://www.ufl.edu/> is an Equal Opportunity Employer dedicated to building a broadly diverse and inclusive faculty and staff. The University of Florida invites all qualified applicants, including minorities, women, veterans, and individuals with disabilities. The University of Florida is a public institution and subject to all requirements under the Florida Sunshine and Public Records laws.


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From mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu  Fri May 27 09:37:34 2022
From: mphillips at flmnh.ufl.edu (Phillips,Molly)
Date: Fri, 27 May 2022 13:37:34 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] SPNHC Natural History Education DemoCamp Deadline for
 Presenters Extended to June 6
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We have extended the SPNHC Natural History Education DemoCamp presenter registration deadline to June 6th. Please help us spread the word about this free, virtual, and informal event to promote the amazing educational materials from our community!

Here is a link to our press kit for an email template, social media post, graphics and a flyer: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_93JV0O_bTdKr3jtSUODA-M1qhSeVXS9?usp=sharing See below for our standard announcement!



The Society for the Preservation of Natural History Collections Education Sessional Committee is hosting a virtual Natural History Collection Education DemoCamp

The goal is to share, discover, and discuss educational materials that have a framework in natural history. This is building upon our previous iterations of the 'education share fair' that were hosted at the annual meeting.



Where: Zoom, of course!

When: 22nd and 23rd of June, the amount of time blocks will be dependent on the number of presenters.

Cost: Free!



Presenter registration [https://bit.ly/2022_PresenterReg] is open until June 6th.  and general attendee registration [https://bit.ly/2022_NHEDemoCampReg] will be open up until the event. Please see the website [https://spnhc.org/education-democamp/] for additional details and reach out to us with any questions: educationdemocamp at gmail.com<mailto:educationdemocamp at gmail.com>



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From Kareen.Schnabel at niwa.co.nz  Mon May 30 22:16:17 2022
From: Kareen.Schnabel at niwa.co.nz (Kareen Schnabel)
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 02:16:17 +0000
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Please join us for the 10th International Crustacean
 Congress in Wellington, May 2023
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For all our crustacean-loving colleagues, please join us at the 10th International Crustacean Congress in Wellington, New Zealand, in May 2023 for our first international in-person meeting in a long time  (visit www.icc10.org<http://www.icc10.org> for more information).
We currently accept suggestions for special sessions and symposia (Call for symposia + complete short survey to enter prize draw (mailchi.mp)<https://mailchi.mp/c40490e1698f/call-for-symposia-complete-short-survey-to-enter-prize-draw> and be in to win a free registration if you complete a short survey!), a call for abstracts will be made later this year.
Please share, your support is greatly appreciated.
Kia ora, thank you,
Kareen

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Dr Kareen Schnabel
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