[Nhcoll-l] Nhcoll-l Digest, Vol 120, Issue 7
Christine Niezgoda
cniezgoda at fieldmuseum.org
Wed May 25 21:39:45 EDT 2022
Dina Clark <dina.clark at colorado.edu>
To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
Subject: [Nhcoll-l] processing and storing gymnosperm collections
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Field Museum has a large cone collection associated with our herbarium
specimens. We keep them in a separate storage system of drawers that is
adjacent to the herbarium cases housing the gymnosperm sheets. They are
all databased and imaged. We add a small label "Cone Collection" to the
sheet and in the database we have a field that specifies Herbarium
Sheet/Cone Collection as an alert. The cones are kept in archival
polyethylene bags vs. boxes due to them occupying less space with this
type of storage. Within the plastic bag is a copy of the herbarium label ;
outside it is labeled with the catalog number of the sheet and color coded
with our geographic color code (e.g., Orange/SA, Red/CA, etc..). The
database has images of both the sheet and cones attached to the
original record. The cones are filed in the same way as in the herbarium
and each of the drawers has configurable slots to accommodate different
sizes of cones.
Let me know if you have questions and/or need some pictures of our system.
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> 1. Re: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> (Rob Robins)
> 2. processing and storing gymnosperm collections (Dina Clark)
> 3. HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC. (Mary Sollows)
> 4. Re: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> (Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS])
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 May 2022 20:27:49 +0000
> From: Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
> To: "Bentley, Andrew Charles" <abentley at ku.edu>, Katrina Derieg
> <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>, "Watters, Jessa L." <jwatters at ou.edu>,
> Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>, "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu"
> <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL
> LIC.
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> I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so
> thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.
>
> We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and
> this is helpful.
>
> I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and
> reliable synched with your systems and up and running.
>
> Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> Robert H. Robins
> Collection Manager
> Division of Ichthyology
> [FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
> Florida Museum
> 1659 Museum Rd.
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
> Office: (352) 273-1957
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
>
> Search the Collection:
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley,
> Andrew Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
> To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <
> jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> [External Email]
> Katrina
>
> I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly. We have an old
> model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years. Not a
> day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity
> of the labels produced. I suspect this may be growing pains with new
> printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the
> Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the
> part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX. It may also be a bad combination of ribbon
> and media as his is important for good print quality. We have also been
> using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have
> been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs. They
> have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as
> attached since Datamax went off the market. Does anyone have any
> experience with these? Are they more reliable, easier to set up and
> operate?
>
> Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II
> somewhere. They are really good ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
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> Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
> To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i:
> https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=
> >
> Pros:
>
> * Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter
> (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
> * Prints tiny characters very clearly
> * Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
> Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.
>
> Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to
> hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or
> else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it
> curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will
> cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the
> second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t).
> I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer
> off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer
> on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the
> settings were before.
>
> I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week
> printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have
> been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.
>
> I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way
> to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
> Katrina Derieg
> Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
> 301 Wakara Way
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
> Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
> Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
> she/her
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
>
> https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh
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> >
>
> It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand
> dollars. Details are as follows:
>
> 1. Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our
> in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
> 2. It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and
> it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting
> (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting
> with cause it to die out faster?)
> 3. It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly
> ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to
> open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into
> recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels
> worth of media after each label.
> 4. There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if
> that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the
> company seemed confused by this concept)
> 5. We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels
> there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do
> weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)
>
> We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue
> (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media
> sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing
> multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a
> month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy
> it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the
> company.
>
> In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10
> labels?
>
> Jessa
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Jessa Watters, M.S.
> Collection Manager, Herpetology
> Sam Noble Museum
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
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> 405-325-7771 (phone)
> 405-325-7699 (fax)
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> pronouns: she, her, hers
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal
> label printer for collections stored in ethanol: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
> VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB,
> SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND
> TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.
>
> Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year
> because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option. We returned
> it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been
> offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the
> HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have
> thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate
> media and SDR ribbon? I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in
> the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a
> large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the
> past 2 years. As always, I really appreciate your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mary Sollows
> Invertebrate Zoology
> Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
> New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
> 277 Douglas Ave.
> Saint John, New Brunswick
> Canada E2K 1E5
>
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> tel: (506) 643-2365
> fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt
>
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> From: Dina Clark <dina.clark at colorado.edu>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] processing and storing gymnosperm collections
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> Good Afternoon,
>
> We are reassessing how we both process and house our gymnosperm
> collections, especially specimens with larger cones. Curious to know if
> other institutions keep cones with their associated specimen sheets or are
> they curated separately in the collection? If entire specimens are kept
> together, what are your storage methods since the specimens are so bulky?
>
> Thanks in advance for your replies.
>
> Dina
>
>
> Dina Clark
> Collection Manager, Herbarium COLO
> University of Colorado Museum of Natural History
> Boulder, CO 80309
> 303-492-3216
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> Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:09:05 +0000
> From: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> To: "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL
> LIC.
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> Thermal printer update at the New Brunswick Museum:
> We have just placed an order for a Cab Squix 4 thermal printer and I will
> post a progress report to the listserve in a couple of months. Thank you
> so much for the feedback to date. This listserve is a great resource.
>
> Thanks,
> Mary Sollows
> ________________________________________
> From: Rob Robins [rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 5:27 PM
> To: Bentley, Andrew Charles; Katrina Derieg; Watters, Jessa L.; Mary
> Sollows; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: RE: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so
> thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.
>
> We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and
> this is helpful.
>
> I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and
> reliable synched with your systems and up and running.
>
> Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> Robert H. Robins
> Collection Manager
> Division of Ichthyology
> [FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
> Florida Museum
> 1659 Museum Rd.
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
> Office: (352) 273-1957
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
>
> Search the Collection:
> http://specifyportal.flmnh.ufl.edu/fishes/
>
> Search samples suitable for dna analysis:
> https://www.floridamuseum.ufl.edu/grr/holdings/
>
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Bentley,
> Andrew Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
> To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <
> jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> [External Email]
>
> Katrina
>
> I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly. We have an old
> model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years. Not a
> day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity
> of the labels produced. I suspect this may be growing pains with new
> printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the
> Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the
> part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX. It may also be a bad combination of ribbon
> and media as his is important for good print quality. We have also been
> using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have
> been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs. They
> have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as
> attached since Datamax went off the market. Does anyone have any
> experience with these? Are they more reliable, easier to set up and
> operate?
>
> Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II
> somewhere. They are really good ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
> A : A : A :
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> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561
> USA
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863
> Fax: (785) 864-5335
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258<
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>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
> To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i:
> https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=
> >
> Pros:
>
> * Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter
> (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
> * Prints tiny characters very clearly
> * Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
> Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.
>
> Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to
> hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or
> else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it
> curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will
> cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the
> second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t).
> I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer
> off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer
> on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the
> settings were before.
>
> I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week
> printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have
> been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.
>
> I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way
> to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
> Katrina Derieg
> Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
> 301 Wakara Way
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
> Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
> Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
> she/her
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
>
> https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh
> <
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> >
>
> It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand
> dollars. Details are as follows:
>
> 1. Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our
> in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
> 2. It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and
> it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting
> (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting
> with cause it to die out faster?)
> 3. It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly
> ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to
> open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into
> recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels
> worth of media after each label.
> 4. There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if
> that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the
> company seemed confused by this concept)
> 5. We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels
> there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do
> weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)
>
> We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue
> (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media
> sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing
> multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a
> month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy
> it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the
> company.
>
> In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10
> labels?
>
> Jessa
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Jessa Watters, M.S.
> Collection Manager, Herpetology
> Sam Noble Museum
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
> jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>
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> >
> 405-325-7771 (phone)
> 405-325-7699 (fax)
> https://samnoblemuseum.ou.edu/collections-and-research/herpetology/<
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> >
> pronouns: she, her, hers
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal
> label printer for collections stored in ethanol: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
> VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB,
> SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND
> TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.
>
> Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year
> because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option. We returned
> it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been
> offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the
> HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have
> thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate
> media and SDR ribbon? I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in
> the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a
> large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the
> past 2 years. As always, I really appreciate your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mary Sollows
> Invertebrate Zoology
> Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
> New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
> 277 Douglas Ave.
> Saint John, New Brunswick
> Canada E2K 1E5
>
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> tel: (506) 643-2365
> fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt
>
> http://www.nbm-mnb.ca/<
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 12:51:51 +0000
> From: "Pellegrini, Rodrigo [DOS]" <Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.nj.gov>
> To: Rob Robins <rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>, "Bentley, Andrew Charles"
> <abentley at ku.edu>, Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>,
> "Watters,
> Jessa L." <jwatters at ou.edu>, Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca
> >,
> "nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu" <nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL
> LIC.
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> We had an I-Class Datamax O?Neill printer until recently. I?m afraid it
> never worked quite right. It?s a long story, but we didn?t purchase it from
> Alpha Systems (we are a State of NJ agency and our purchasing regulations
> are as big a pain in the neck as you can imagine, and then some). Anyway,
> it kept printing (or rather, ?not printing? or blanking) a couple vertical
> lines on each label. Customer Support tried to help out, but were convinced
> the issue was the ribbon was wrinkled when I loaded it?not so. One time,
> after months of trying, I got busy with other projects and they closed the
> support ticket. I called again and was informed it was probably a defective
> print head but I was now out of manufacturer?s warranty. We learned to live
> with the blank lines and spaced the labels as best we could, since at that
> point there wasn?t much we could do.
> Fast forward to last year, when the printer was old enough to request a
> replacement, and we found out Datamax-O?Neill was bought out by Honeywell,
> and the I-Class printer was no longer an option. We searched and ended up
> with two candidates, the Honeywell PX4E and the Zebra ZT411.
> We decided to give the Zebra ZT411 a try. There were growing pains at
> first, the biggest of them all finding out the SDR3 and SDR5 ribbons are
> spun in the opposite direction than the way the Zebra ZT411 takes/loads the
> ribbon roll, but we have been printing very good labels for the last couple
> weeks--after finding out we could order the ribbon spun the way the Zebra
> takes it from Alpha Systems thanks to Jean-Marc Gagnon.
> Granted, we have been using it only for a few weeks, but Jean-Marc has
> been using a Zebra for a while, now. We at the NJSM are happier with it
> than we were with the Datamax I-class, which never worked properly for us.
> I realize this is a bad experience that doesn?t reflect the overall quality
> of that model, but I still feel their customer support/warranty didn?t
> treat us fairly, even if I did drop the ball by letting the issue sit for a
> few weeks.
>
> Rod
>
> Rodrigo Pellegrini
> Registrar, Natural History Bureau
> New Jersey State Museum
> PO Box 530
> Trenton, NJ 08625-0530
> USA
>
> Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us<mailto:
> Rodrigo.Pellegrini at sos.state.nj.us>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu> On Behalf Of Rob Robins
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:28 PM
> To: Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley at ku.edu>; Katrina Derieg <
> kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>; Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu>; Mary Sollows
> <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>; nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER
> W/PERPETUAL LIC.
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> I appreciate the negative reviews at least as much as the positives ? so
> thank you, Mary, Jessa, and Katrina.
>
> We are researching printers for barcode printing right now (media too) and
> this is helpful.
>
> I also echo Andy?s assessment of the datamax line of printers. Solid and
> reliable synched with your systems and up and running.
>
> Sorry to hear they are hard to obtain at present.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> Robert H. Robins
> Collection Manager
> Division of Ichthyology
> [FLMNH Fishes logo email small]
> Florida Museum
> 1659 Museum Rd.
> Gainesville, FL 32611-7800
> Office: (352) 273-1957
> rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu<mailto:rhrobins at flmnh.ufl.edu>
>
> Search the Collection:
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> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Bentley, Andrew Charles
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 4:17 PM
> To: Katrina Derieg <kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>>;
> Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary Sollows
> <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> [External Email]
> Katrina
>
> I would not be so quick to write them off so quickly. We have an old
> model Datamax that has been a workhorse for us for about 10 years. Not a
> day of problems in that time and e have been very happy with the longevity
> of the labels produced. I suspect this may be growing pains with new
> printer models (it did take us some time to find the ?sweet spot? for the
> Datamax to print good quality labels at first) or bad manufacturing on the
> part of Honeywell and/or GoDEX. It may also be a bad combination of ribbon
> and media as his is important for good print quality. We have also been
> using the attached ribbon and media supplied by Alpha Systems, who have
> been the go to for museum solution thermal transfer printer needs. They
> have now started supplying and recommending the CAB Squix printers as
> attached since Datamax went off the market. Does anyone have any
> experience with these? Are they more reliable, easier to set up and
> operate?
>
> Last resort ? see if you can still find a Datamax I-Class Mark II
> somewhere. They are really good ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Andy
> A : A : A :
> }<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<(((_?>.,.,.,.}<)))_?>
> V V V
> Andy Bentley
> Ichthyology Collection Manager
> University of Kansas
> Biodiversity Institute
> Dyche Hall
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
> USA<x-apple-data-detectors://9/>
>
> Tel: (785) 864-3863<tel:%28785%29%20864-3863>
> Fax: (785) 864-5335<tel:%28785%29%20864-5335>
> Email: abentley at ku.edu<mailto:abentley at ku.edu>
> ORCID: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-3093-1258<
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__orcid.org_0000-2D0002-2D3093-2D1258&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=MkNZm2P7-XfuepHZMPiFfNlhoy_rbzLa3SBG-VFUzxo&e=
> >
> http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu<
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> V V V
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Katrina Derieg
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 3:03 PM
> To: Watters, Jessa L. <jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>>; Mary
> Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I also was unable to buy a Datamax, but we ended up with a GoDEX ZX430i:
> https://www.godexprinters.co.uk/industrial/zx430i<
> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__nam10.safelinks.protection.outlook.com_-3Furl-3Dhttps-253A-252F-252Fwww.godexprinters.co.uk-252Findustrial-252Fzx430i-26data-3D05-257C01-257Cabentley-2540ku.edu-257C58b94bf4f90a423be79b08da3dc08423-257C3c176536afe643f5b96636feabbe3c1a-257C0-257C0-257C637890195649026577-257CUnknown-257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0-253D-257C3000-257C-257C-257C-26sdata-3Dn5zXotcV0rkgDgDxlaM51a-252BPfDUxgin7wEozh7p1n6c-253D-26reserved-3D0&d=DwMGaQ&c=sJ6xIWYx-zLMB3EPkvcnVg&r=MCIx6IevDpZN7oPx8SAIb6_HvqHJFo2if2SZHHR4kiQ&m=sTy-G_CVxQngMqv9WkYc4pmzS6nFX5nbNhUYYxQVK0v5suODUUJNO0cgjlaGsFpC&s=UHMIdPp78Mn7XzwviBVqGBL1V_o6cKjMeEb9Y01gs3I&e=
> >
> Pros:
>
> * Much cheaper than the Honeywell printers, even with the cutter
> (which cost almost as much as the printer itself)
> * Prints tiny characters very clearly
> * Connecting and setting up drivers was easy
> Cons: an absolute pain in the neck to use in almost every way.
>
> Not once have I printed a label successfully on the first try. I have to
> hand feed the label paper (we use Tyvek Brillion) every time I print or
> else the rollers won?t grab it. I don?t recommend using this medium; it
> curls on the edges after some time in ethanol. Frequently, the cutter will
> cut the label before it finished printing it, and then will print the
> second half of the label and then claim that it is jammed (when it isn?t).
> I have wasted so much of that pricy Tyvek paper. When I turn the printer
> off, half of the settings aren?t saved, so I just have to leave the printer
> on all the time unless I want to spend 30 minutes figuring out what all the
> settings were before.
>
> I really identify with the statement: ?I just spent ~1 hr last week
> printing 10 labels?? because this is usually what happens to me too. I have
> been putting off labeling jars because it is so frustrating to print labels.
>
> I?m becoming increasingly convinced that thermal printers are not the way
> to go. Seems like everyone has horror stories, regardless of the brand.
>
> Best of luck to you!
>
> Katrina Derieg
> Vertebrate Zoology Collections Manager
> Natural History Museum of Utah (UMNH)
> 301 Wakara Way
> Salt Lake City, Utah 84108
> Email: kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu<mailto:kderieg at nhmu.utah.edu>
> Mobile: (801) 707-4819 | Office: (801) 587-5787
> she/her
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> On Behalf Of Watters, Jessa L.
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2022 1:22 PM
> To: Mary Sollows <Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>;
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> We bought the following machine last Fall: Honeywell PX940
>
> https://www.cdwg.com/product/honeywell-px940-3-core-300-dpi-thermal-industrial-printer/5712690?pfm=srh
> <
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> >
>
> It has been a total disaster and we all feel like we wasted a few thousand
> dollars. Details are as follows:
>
> 1. Connecting it to a device was harder than it should have been (our
> in-house IT could not do it without Honeywell customer service help).
> 2. It prints very faintly. We have it turned up to maximum density and
> it is just barely at the darkness our old Datamax was on a regular setting
> (and we have been informed by Honeywell that printing at darkest setting
> with cause it to die out faster?)
> 3. It doesn?t seem to recognize the media we already had (supposedly
> ?standard? and can fit any thermal printer). This results in us having to
> open and shut the print head before every label, just to trick it into
> recognizing there is media present. It also ejects/feeds about 4-5 labels
> worth of media after each label.
> 4. There is no built-in cutter to cut your labels for you (not sure if
> that is just a model issue or none of these Honeywell ones have it; the
> company seemed confused by this concept)
> 5. We use FileMaker as our specimen database and our presets on labels
> there print ok, but the ones in Excel do not (and we basically have to do
> weird re-formatting things in Excel every time we create a new label)
>
> We have tried a new printhead, thinking it would fix the faintness issue
> (#2), but it did not. We also requested the ?official? Honeywell media
> sample thinking maybe it would start to recognize it (perhaps fixing
> multiple issues in #3). They have not sent the media yet (requested over a
> month ago), so I assume we will have to eventually break down and just buy
> it ourselves, hoping it fixes the problem. See attached specs from the
> company.
>
> In the meantime, as an example, I just spent ~1 hr last week printing 10
> labels?
>
> Jessa
>
>
> ___________________________________________________
> Jessa Watters, M.S.
> Collection Manager, Herpetology
> Sam Noble Museum
> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.
> Norman, OK 73072
> jwatters at ou.edu<mailto:jwatters at ou.edu>
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> >
> 405-325-7771 (phone)
> 405-325-7699 (fax)
> https://samnoblemuseum.ou.edu/collections-and-research/herpetology/<
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> >
> pronouns: she, her, hers
>
>
>
> From: Nhcoll-l <nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:
> nhcoll-l-bounces at mailman.yale.edu>> on behalf of Mary Sollows <
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>>
> Date: Wednesday, May 18, 2022 at 6:55 AM
> To: nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu> <
> nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu<mailto:nhcoll-l at mailman.yale.edu>>
> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
> Hello,
>
> I would like to know if anyone has experience using the following thermal
> label printer for collections stored in ethanol: HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER,
> VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC., FULL TOUCH DISPLAY, UNIVERSAL FW, ETH, USB,
> SERIAL, LOW POWER BLUETOOTH, RIBBON INK IN/OUT, MEDIA CORE 3 INCH, DT AND
> TT, 300 DPI, US POWER CORD.
>
> Our efforts to purchase a Datamax or CAB/Squix were unsuccessful last year
> because of supply issues so we purchased a Honeywell option. We returned
> it to Honeywell in January because it was defective and we have now been
> offered the option to replace it with a slightly different model, the
> HONEYWELL, PX940 PRINTER, VERIFIER W/PERPETUAL LIC.
>
> I am also curious if anyone knows of a museum service available to have
> thermal labels printed by an external organization using the appropriate
> media and SDR ribbon? I don?t want to run the risk of ?Alphabet soup? in
> the jars of ethanol caused but incorrect ribbon. We need to deal with a
> large backlog of labels to be printed that have been accumulating over the
> past 2 years. As always, I really appreciate your advice.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Mary Sollows
> Invertebrate Zoology
> Department of Natural History / D?partement d?histoire naturelle
> New Brunswick Museum / Mus?e du Nouveau-Brunswick
> 277 Douglas Ave.
> Saint John, New Brunswick
> Canada E2K 1E5
>
> Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca<mailto:Mary.Sollows at nbm-mnb.ca>
> tel: (506) 643-2365
> fax: (506) 643-2360 t was defectivt
>
> http://www.nbm-mnb.ca/<
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