Hi Everyone:<br><br>A few years ago, I saw this gallon jar (largest shown in this set) or one very similar to it for sale at a local Wal-Mart - <a href="http://www.walmart.com/ip/Anchor-Hocking-Cracker-Jar-with-Lid/16520333#Item+Description">http://www.walmart.com/ip/Anchor-Hocking-Cracker-Jar-with-Lid/16520333#Item+Description</a> This looks like the same set on the Anchor Hocking site - <a href="http://www.anchorhocking.com/prodd_5623_cat_260_cracker_jar_set.html">http://www.anchorhocking.com/prodd_5623_cat_260_cracker_jar_set.html</a> At that time, the jar had a 120mm opening. It was not as tall at the original, stock 120 mm gallon jars that we used before they were discontinued in glass. The Wal-Mart jar was squarish with rounded corners and seemed like a good size for coiled snakes, turtles, wide-bodied fish as well as multiples of smaller specimens. The jar had an embossed but tasteful design on the exterior. I will buy one of these if it is still available with the 120 mm opening and take a photo of one next to the typical gallon jar whose demise some of us are lamenting. I would imagine that Anchor-Hocking would send a sample to anyone interested in these.<br>
<br>We never looked into buying the Anchor-Hocking jars in quantity because we have a large quantity of the traditional 120 mm glass jars in reserve.<br><div><br>Alan Resetar<br>Acting Divisional Manager & Collection Manager<br>
Division of Amphibians and Reptiles<br>Field Museum of Natural History<br>1400 S. Lake Shore Dr.<br>Chicago, Illinois 60605-2496 USA<br><a>1-312-665-7768</a> - Phone<br><a>1-312-665-7697</a> - Fax<br><a href="mailto:aresetar@fieldmuseum.org" target="_blank">aresetar@fieldmuseum.org</a> - E-mail<br>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Alexandra M Snyder <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:amsnyder@unm.edu" target="_blank">amsnyder@unm.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Andy, I agree that the 120mm gallon jars were nice to<br>
have for (some) wide bodied specimens, and especially<br>
snakes. But I think you would agree with me that specimen<br>
tanks can be a more efficient way organize and conserve<br>
those wide bodied or larger specimens (fishes, amphibians,<br>
and reptiles) without sacrificing rows and rows of shelves<br>
to gallon jars holding single lots that can be tagged and<br>
combined (systematically)into a tank. We have also found<br>
that the (wider "foot print")gallon jars can be readily<br>
replaced by the (narrower "foot print") 3-liter Le Parfait<br>
for large lots of small fishes or tagged frogs and<br>
lizards. Thereby, saving shelf space.<br>
<br>
I would venture a guess that in the long run, budgeting<br>
your annual costs to include the purchase of a few<br>
specimen tanks each year rather than specialty specimen<br>
jars (or even stock jars that can be used for larger<br>
specimens) may prove a better way to spend the money and<br>
conserve the specimens. (I.e., the temptation to fit a<br>
specimen into a larger jar than is good for the specimen<br>
rather than tag it and commit it to a tank, exposure to<br>
light, etc.)<br>
<br>
Best, Lex<br>
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On Mon, 21 May 2012 16:07:05 +0000<br>
"Bentley, Andrew Charles" <<a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a>> wrote:<br>
> Lex<br>
><br>
> We too use the Le Parfait jars but unfortunately they<br>
>have an even smaller opening and given the price of tanks<br>
>nowadays, it was nice to have the 120mm gallons to house<br>
>that class of specimens. The other options mentioned are<br>
>decidedly more expensive and well out of the range of the<br>
>budgets of most collections I know for regular specimen<br>
>containers. They may be doable for a one off "special<br>
>specimen" though.<br>
><br>
> Andy<br>
><br>
> A : A : A :<br>
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> V V V<br>
> Andy Bentley<br>
> Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
> University of Kansas<br>
> Biodiversity Institute<br>
> Dyche Hall<br>
> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
> USA<br>
><br>
> Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" value="+17858643863">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
> Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" value="+17858645335">(785) 864-5335</a><br>
> Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a> <br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
>From: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
>[mailto:<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
>Alexandra M Snyder<br>
> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 9:38 AM<br>
> To: Dirk Neumann; Monaghan, Nigel<br>
> Cc: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon<br>
>jars?<br>
><br>
>For over 25 years, I have used Le Parfait French captive<br>
>lid canning jars for preservation of fishes. In the US<br>
>there are several distributors of these jars. The<br>
>following link lists European distributors:<br>
> <a href="http://leparfait.com/list-of-outlets" target="_blank">http://leparfait.com/list-of-outlets</a><br>
><br>
> Used with the white 55 Duro Buna-N rubber gaskets (US<br>
> manufacturer) instead of the orange gaskets (provided<br>
>with jars), these make excellent specimen jars. The<br>
>orange gaskets will hold up for a year or so but must be<br>
>replaced more frequently than the Buna-N rubber gaskets.<br>
>(Any residue left on the jar lid or rim from the old<br>
>orange gasket must be completely removed before replacing<br>
>with a new gasket.)<br>
><br>
> The size range: 0.5 liter to 3.0 liter. Our practice is<br>
>to put any specimen that is too large for the 3 liter jar<br>
>into the stainless steel tank system rather than trying<br>
>to find jars to fit over-sized specimens.<br>
><br>
> Lex<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On Mon, 21 May 2012 13:10:42 +0200<br>
> Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:Dirk.Neumann@zsm.mwn.de">Dirk.Neumann@zsm.mwn.de</a>> wrote:<br>
>> ... another one would be Stoezle Oberglas; compared to<br>
>>the<br>
>>glass-tube-melting option, prices of both suppliers are<br>
>>considerably<br>
>>higher for comparable large ground stopper glasses ....<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Am <a href="tel:21.05.2012%2012" value="+12105201212">21.05.2012 12</a>:03, schrieb Monaghan, Nigel:<br>
>>> Folks<br>
>>><br>
>>> For those on the other side of the Atlantic there is a<br>
>>>good (not<br>
>>>cheap though) supplier in the UK in Dixon Glass. They<br>
>>>also manufacture<br>
>>>large containers from borosilicate glass.<br>
>>> <a href="http://www.dixonglass.co.uk/bespoke-glassware/" target="_blank">http://www.dixonglass.co.uk/bespoke-glassware/</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> Nigel<br>
>>><br>
>>> Mr Nigel T. Monaghan,<br>
>>> Keeper,<br>
>>> Natural History Division,<br>
>>> National Museum of Ireland,<br>
>>> Merrion Street,<br>
>>> Dublin 2,<br>
>>> IRELAND<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a href="mailto:nmonaghan@museum.ie">nmonaghan@museum.ie</a><br>
>>> <a href="http://www.museum.ie" target="_blank">www.museum.ie</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>> From: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
>>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
>>>Dirk Neumann<br>
>>> Sent: 18 May 2012 07:44<br>
>>> To: Watters, Jessa L.<br>
>>> Cc: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
>>> Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon<br>
>>>jars?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Dear Jessa,<br>
>>><br>
>>> maybe I am coming up with an old idea for replacing<br>
>>>(commercially<br>
>>> produced) glass containers posted here already before,<br>
>>>but perhaps<br>
>>>still an alternative especially for large specimens (max.<br>
>>>width: 300<br>
>>>mm, max.<br>
>>> [stable] hight: 1200 mm): it is possible to melt larger<br>
>>>glass<br>
>>>container from borosilicate glass tubes (see attached -<br>
>>>glass holds<br>
>>>two Australian lungfishes, dimensions of the glass are<br>
>>>250x1000 mm).<br>
>>><br>
>>> These glass tubes are produced by Schott Duran - and as<br>
>>>far as I know<br>
>>>- available in the US.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Smaller glasses are possible either - we order regularly<br>
>>>130x300 mm&<br>
>>> 80x300 mm glasses from a local glassblower specialised<br>
>>>on production<br>
>>>of chemical instruments - these range about<br>
>>>70-80 EUR including the grinded glass lids.<br>
>>><br>
>>> For large rays we recently orderer glasses with 300x600<br>
>>>mm.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Problem surely is to find a glassblower who can handle<br>
>>>this.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Compared to commercially produced glasses much more<br>
>>>expensive, but<br>
>>>offers better glass quality (no weathering / corrosion<br>
>>>like in<br>
>>>soda-lime<br>
>>> glass) and is - compared to plastic drums - still the<br>
>>>better option.<br>
>>>I compared prices on the SPNHC meeting in Leiden with<br>
>>>similar large<br>
>>>glass containers from Dixon glass (UK). Our price was 1/3<br>
>>>of the Dixon<br>
>>>price.<br>
>>> Even though Dixon offered large ground stopper glasses<br>
>>>and "our"<br>
>>>glasses are closed "only" with grounded glass planes,<br>
>>>this option is<br>
>>>very attractive& competitive - regarding price&<br>
>>> dimensions of the<br>
>>>glass.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Best regards<br>
>>> Dirk<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Am 16.05.2012 23:43, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<br>
>>>> Jessa<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Numerous people have tried and failed to get these back<br>
>>>>into<br>
>>>>production. As far as I can tell there is no one out<br>
>>>>there who is<br>
>>>>still producing these and there is not enough volume of<br>
>>>>need from the<br>
>>>>natural history community to get them back into<br>
>>>>production. I have<br>
>>>>contacted our glass supplier (Kols Containers) and they<br>
>>>>have<br>
>>>>researched this without any luck. Only 110mm gallon jars<br>
>>>>available<br>
>>>>now...<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sorry<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Andy<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> A : A : A :<br>
>>>> }<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<(((_°>.,.,.,.}<)))_°><br>
>>>> V V V<br>
>>>> Andy Bentley<br>
>>>> Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
>>>> University of Kansas<br>
>>>> Biodiversity Institute<br>
>>>> Dyche Hall<br>
>>>> 1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
>>>> Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
>>>> USA<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Tel: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-3863" value="+17858643863">(785) 864-3863</a><br>
>>>> Fax: <a href="tel:%28785%29%20864-5335" value="+17858645335">(785) 864-5335</a><br>
>>>> Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a><br>
>>>> <a href="http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu" target="_blank">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</a><br>
>>>> : :<br>
>>>> A : A : A :<br>
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>>>> V V V<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> -----Original Message-----<br>
>>>> From: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
>>>>[mailto:<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] On Behalf Of<br>
>>>>Watters,<br>
>>>>Jessa L.<br>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 4:17 PM<br>
>>>> To: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
>>>> Subject: [Nhcoll-l] vendor for wide-mouth gallon jars?<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Does anyone out there have a current vendor for 1 gallon<br>
>>>>wide-mouth<br>
>>>>(120mm) glass jars? It seems that everyone I talked to<br>
>>>>hasn't<br>
>>>>purchased them for years and those companies don't<br>
>>>>produce them<br>
>>>>anymore. Any help is appreciated!<br>
>>>> Jessa<br>
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------<br>
>>>> Jessa L. Watters<br>
>>>> Collection Manager<br>
>>>> Division of Herpetology<br>
>>>> Sam Noble Oklahoma Museum of Natural History University<br>
>>>>of Oklahoma<br>
>>>> 2401 Chautauqua Ave.<br>
>>>> Norman, OK 73072<br>
>>>> Phone: <a href="tel:405-325-7771" value="+14053257771">405-325-7771</a><br>
>>>> Fax: <a href="tel:405-325-7699" value="+14053257699">405-325-7699</a><br>
>>>> <a href="mailto:jwatters@ou.edu">jwatters@ou.edu</a><br>
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