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<div>The GUID would not replace the traditional catalog number and collection code but would augment it.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Mark O'Brien <<a href="mailto:mfobrien@umich.edu">mfobrien@umich.edu</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, October 15, 2012 8:27 AM<br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>"<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>" <<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>><br>
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<div>Reading that whole blog entry gave me a headache. We have had unique museum identifiers for many years, starting with printed lists back in the 1960s. If you dissociate a museum acronym from a specimen number, it will cause confusion and perhaps cause
more problems. Let's say that someone uses a specimen from the UMMZ that has a record number UMMZI-0023578. In the resulting publication, it becomes a part of a type series, and anyone reading that paper would be able to determine (without even having to
go online) that it is from the Univ. Michigan Museum of Zoology Insect collection. If it was coded instead with 081-211118-87650 it means nothing without an intermediary decoding via some online portal. I know the old KISS (Keep it Simple, Stupid) adage
means more now than it ever did, since people have a tendency to make very complex systems because they can.
<div>Just my two cents.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Robert Guralnick <span dir="ltr">
<<a href="mailto:Robert.Guralnick@colorado.edu" target="_blank">Robert.Guralnick@colorado.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Dear List --- I have been curious about something, and hope you<br>
won't mind taking a moment to at least cogitate (or perhaps even<br>
respond) with some thoughts. As digitization efforts continue to ramp<br>
up in collections, there is clearly an impetus to have global unique<br>
identifiers on physical specimens and downstream derivates such as<br>
images, metadata records, etc. There are a fair number of arguments<br>
about how to do this, and lots of recommendations etc. One could argue<br>
there are TOO MANY recommendations and arguments!<br>
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The key question is: If there was a service that provided you, free<br>
of charge, with digital object identifiers (DOIs - those global unique<br>
identifiers associated with publications) that could be associated<br>
with your specimens, would you use it?<br>
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More details on why I am asking (and what we view as a needed "reset"<br>
on the conversation) can be found in a recent blog post by the<br>
BiSciCol (pronounced "bicycle" and standing for Biological Science<br>
Collections Tracker) group: <a href="http://biscicol.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://biscicol.blogspot.com/</a><br>
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Appreciate thoughts! Will summarize here and on the blog!<br>
Best, Rob<br>
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Dr. Rob Guralnick<br>
Curator and Assoc. Prof.<br>
CU Museum of Nat. Hist. and Dept. of Ecol. and Evol. Biol.<br>
University of Colorado, Boulder etc etc etc<br>
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