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<DIV>I agree. If the specimen is physically separated from its host it becomes an entity and should be catalogued separately. The host would become essentially a part of its "locality" information so would be cross-referenced to the original specimen. I would think that the person who isolated the new specimen would be considered the preparator rather than the collector.</DIV>
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<DIV>Departmental Associate<BR>Department of Natural History - Palaeobiology<BR>Royal Ontario Museum<BR>100 Queen's Park<BR>Toronto, ON<BR>Canada M5S 2C6<BR>Phone (416) 586-5593 Fax (416) 586-5553<BR>Email janetw@rom.on.ca</DIV>>>> Gregory Schneider <ges@umich.edu> 2/28/2013 11:05 AM >>><BR>In my opinion, the collecting event is exactly the same. It is analogous to finding a whole identifiable specimen (ie. a lizard) in the stomach contents of a previously catalogued snake. I would catalogue the lizard separately with the same collecting data as the snake, and cross reference the new entry to the original.<BR><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Thu, Feb 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Lewis-Gentry, Genevieve <SPAN dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:glewis-g@oeb.harvard.edu" target=_blank>glewis-g@oeb.harvard.edu</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">We are running into an interesting collections issue for databasing in the Farlow Herbarium and we were wondering how other natural history collections are handling the issue.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">Our example:<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">Insect specimens were collected, identified, and stored in an entomological collection. Later, the insects were checked for a type of fungus (Laboulbeniales) and when found they were removed and mounted on permanent slides in the fungal collections. What counts as the collecting information? The original collection information for locality etc? (Which is our thought.) Who is the collector? The person who collected the insect or the person who collected the fungus? There are collector numbers for both.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">We assume things like this across other types of natural history collections. (Birds and mites are an example we thought could exist.) We are having it happen here between our herbarium and the entomological collections in the department as well as from loans from other entomology collections who are letting us keep and deposit the fungal material here.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">We want to have the best data we can within our system capabilities as well as match how other collections are handling this type of issue.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">Any thoughts, suggestions or help would be greatly appreciated. I am sure that we are not the only ones with cross collections issues like this.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">Thank you so much and let me know if you want more information.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'">Genevieve<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Georgia','serif'; COLOR: #7f7f7f; FONT-SIZE: 10pt">=================================================<BR>Genevieve Lewis-Gentry, Curatorial Assistant<BR>Farlow Herbarium, Harvard University Herbaria<BR>22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138 U.S.A.<BR>Phone: <A href="tel:617-495-2365" target=_blank value="+16174952365">617-495-2365</A> Fax: <A href="tel:617-495-9484" target=_blank value="+16174959484">617-495-9484</A><BR><A href="mailto:glewis-g@oeb.harvard.edu" target=_blank>glewis-g@oeb.harvard.edu</A><U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
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