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<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Thanks Nikolaj,</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Interesting aside about the Grathwol
(presumably?) jars as I have worked with these for a long time as well and found
that the lids do eventually deteriorate over time, especially if they are
slightly too small for the jar and require 'thumbing round the lid' to attach
them. Earlier examples had problems with plasticizers and became rigid and
brittle within a few years appearing either slightly transparent or becoming
yellowed. The later formulation for the lids (1980s) seemed much better
and more stable, longer-lasting but by then people were finding them unreliable
as they didn't seem to stand the test of time.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>I have heard that Grathwol no longer
produce these, which is a shame, they are good for storage and easier to remove
the lids than most other jars.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>With all good wishes, Simon
</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><STRONG><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Simon Moore MIScT, RSci, FLS,
ACR<BR>Conservator of Natural Sciences and Cutlery Historian,<BR><A
href="http://www.natural-history-conservation.com">www.natural-history-conservation.com</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=NScharff@snm.ku.dk href="mailto:NScharff@snm.ku.dk">Nikolaj
Scharff</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=abentley@ku.edu
href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">Bentley, Andrew Charles</A> ; <A
title=jessica.bazeley@yale.edu href="mailto:jessica.bazeley@yale.edu">Utrup,
Jessica</A> ; <A title=nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 03, 2013 2:51
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Labelling of
alcohol-preserved specimens</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>I would personally
be worried that such labels will not last long enough. Most polyester will, I
think, in the long run become brittle and crack. In Copenhagen we now have
problems with old lids made of varies kinds of plastic. These lids were
introduced in the 60’ies and have worked well until now when a large number
starts to crack (after 50 years!). <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>We use regular
archival quality paper or Byron Weston Resistall Paper and we print the labels
with ethanol resistant ink from Canon or HP. Obviously, we don’t know the ink
formula of these inks, and thereby the longevity of labels produced this way,
but we have been using such a system here in Copenhagen since 1994. I have
printed labels sitting on my window shelves and there is no obvious aging to
be observed. I regularly rub them gently with my fingers and there is still no
ink-smear. I would feel better using “regular paper and ink”, instead of
thermo printing.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>It would be
interesting to hear other opinions.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Best
wishes<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Nikolaj</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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lang=EN-US>.....................................................................<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Nikolaj
Scharff<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Director of
Collections<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Associate
Professor, Curator of Arachnida<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Department of
Entomology<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Natural History
Museum of Denmark<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Zoological Museum,
University of Copenhagen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Universitetsparken
15, DK-2100 Copenhagen<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US>DENMARK<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Tel. +45 35321107
Email. </SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><A
href="mailto:nscharff@snm.ku.dk"><SPAN
lang=EN-US>nscharff@snm.ku.dk</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Webpage:
</SPAN><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"><A
href="http://snm.ku.dk/people/nscharff"><SPAN
lang=EN-US>http://snm.ku.dk/people/nscharff</SPAN></A></SPAN><SPAN
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nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<B>On Behalf Of </B>Bentley, Andrew Charles<BR><B>Sent:</B> 3. april 2013
15:28<BR><B>To:</B> Utrup, Jessica;
nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Labelling of
alcohol-preserved specimens<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Jessica,
Marta</SPAN><SPAN lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>The system of
choice now for wet collections appears to be thermal transfer printing using a
thermal transfer printer and spun bound polyester labels. We have been
using such a system for about 10 years now in our wet collections and have had
very good results so far – no yellowing, britteling, fading or any other
physical signs or aging on the labels or print. The thermal transfer
printers have come down in price substantially lately making such a system
affordable to most. Alpha Systems in Virginia sells a “museum solution”
which consists of a Datamax thermal transfer printer, media (4 inch wide, 600
foot long roll of spun bound polyester) and ribbon (wax/resin composite) which
is now used by numerous collections around the world.</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US> </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>I would be happy to
send you pdf’s of printer specs, pricing from Alpha Systems and an article I
wrote for the SPNHC newsletter if you are interested. I can also send
you samples of labels to look at.</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d" lang=EN-US>Andy</SPAN><SPAN
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Utrup, Jessica<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, April 03, 2013
7:53 AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[Nhcoll-l] Labelling of alcohol-preserved specimens</SPAN><SPAN
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Hello dear
colleagues,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>An old question: best system for labeling
of alcohol-preserved specimens: inks, printers, papers... Any new
answers/solutions? We still use manual system with Indian ink on bill paper,
this is secure but labored. Any mechanized system more efficient and long term
reliable?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US>Thank you<BR
clear=all><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN lang=EN-US><BR>-- <BR><B><SPAN
style="COLOR: #006600">Marta Pérez Azcárate<BR>Laboratori de Conservació
Preventiva i Restauració</SPAN></B><SPAN style="COLOR: #006600"><BR><B>Museu
de Cičncies Naturals de Barcelona / GROP S.L.<BR>Passeig Picasso s/n. 08003
BARCELONA<BR>93 256 22 09<BR><A href="mailto:marta.perez.cr@gmail.com"
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