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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Jessica,<br>
<br>
I agree with Nikolaj for two reasons (for European Collestions):<br>
<br>
1. US collections mainly use undenatured alcohol, this is
different in Europe; check for your denaturing agent spoiling the
ethanol: if there are any ketones included (such as MEK), I would
avoid any plastic printer medium and imprinting methods, because
the ketones may corrode the plastics (both the printing ribbon
& the "paper" itself)<br>
<br>
2. For "normal" printers (ink jet, laser), printing in always a
combination of printer <u>and</u> printing medium. So there are
no general recommendations for printers without testing this with
your paper / available paper that can be supplied. Transparent
paper has no fibres and is more or less waterproof (both can be
disadvantageous because the paper is not stabilised with fibres
and chemicals may leak from the paper). Archival Paper surely is
the better option, however, if you would use the labels also for
formaldehyde preserved specimens, it may be worth testing if the
formaldehyde may react with the pulp of the paper (I observed a
swelling of archival paper that turned sticky upon initial contact
with diluted formaldehyde solution). Old ink jet printers (e.g. HP
600 series) use a different printing method (heating &
shooting of ink bubbles onto paper), so in case results of a
modern Epson or HP printers would not be satisfactory, it might be
worth trying one of the old ones (we are still using HP 600
printers). But as said before, you should test this with your
paper.<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
Dirk<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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Am 03.04.2013 15:51, schrieb Nikolaj Scharff:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I
would personally be worried that such labels will not last
long enough. Most polyester will, I think, in the long run
become brittle and crack. In Copenhagen we now have problems
with old lids made of varies kinds of plastic. These lids
were introduced in the 60’ies and have worked well until now
when a large number starts to crack (after 50 years!). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">We
use regular archival quality paper or Byron Weston Resistall
Paper and we print the labels with ethanol resistant ink
from Canon or HP. Obviously, we don’t know the ink formula
of these inks, and thereby the longevity of labels produced
this way, but we have been using such a system here in
Copenhagen since 1994. I have printed labels sitting on my
window shelves and there is no obvious aging to be observed.
I regularly rub them gently with my fingers and there is
still no ink-smear. I would feel better using “regular paper
and ink”, instead of thermo printing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">It
would be interesting to hear other opinions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Best
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Nikolaj</span><span
style="color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">.....................................................................<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Nikolaj
Scharff<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Director
of Collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Associate
Professor, Curator of Arachnida<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Department
of Entomology<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Natural
History Museum of Denmark<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Zoological
Museum, University of Copenhagen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Universitetsparken
15, DK-2100 Copenhagen<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">DENMARK<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Tel.
+45 35321107 Email. </span><span style="color:#1F497D"><a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nscharff@snm.ku.dk"><span
lang="EN-US">nscharff@snm.ku.dk</span></a></span><span
style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Webpage:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">………………………………………………………………………..<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] <b>On Behalf
Of </b>Bentley, Andrew Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 3. april 2013 15:28<br>
<b>To:</b> Utrup, Jessica; <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Labelling of
alcohol-preserved specimens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">Jessica,
Marta</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">The
system of choice now for wet collections appears to be
thermal transfer printing using a thermal transfer printer
and spun bound polyester labels. We have been using such a
system for about 10 years now in our wet collections and
have had very good results so far – no yellowing,
britteling, fading or any other physical signs or aging on
the labels or print. The thermal transfer printers have
come down in price substantially lately making such a system
affordable to most. Alpha Systems in Virginia sells a
“museum solution” which consists of a Datamax thermal
transfer printer, media (4 inch wide, 600 foot long roll of
spun bound polyester) and ribbon (wax/resin composite) which
is now used by numerous collections around the world.</span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US"> </span><span
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D" lang="EN-US">I
would be happy to send you pdf’s of printer specs, pricing
from Alpha Systems and an article I wrote for the SPNHC
newsletter if you are interested. I can also send you
samples of labels to look at.</span><span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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University of Kansas<br>
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lang="EN-US"> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Utrup, Jessica<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, April 03, 2013 7:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Labelling of
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Hello dear colleagues,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">An old question: best
system for labeling of alcohol-preserved specimens: inks,
printers, papers... Any new answers/solutions? We still use
manual system with Indian ink on bill paper, this is secure
but labored. Any mechanized system more efficient and long
term reliable?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US">Thank you<br clear="all">
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><span style="color:#006600">Marta Pérez Azcárate<br>
Laboratori de Conservació Preventiva i Restauració</span></b><span
style="color:#006600"><br>
<b>Museu de Ciències Naturals de Barcelona / GROP S.L.<br>
Passeig Picasso s/n. 08003 BARCELONA<br>
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