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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Doug, Nicolas,<br>
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with upcoming legislation regulation access to genetic resources,
an entirely online collection database might be feasible for US
collections as the US is a non-signatory nation to the CBD and the
Nagoya Protocol. European collections face legal challenges and
should abstain from entirely online / cloud based databases for
the following reasons:<br>
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1. With the exception of specimens collected inside the Europe
Union (including Switzerland, Norway and Iceland that are as
associated Schengen countries "members" of an enlarged European
Union with a harmonised legislation), all non-European collection
materials "offered" online may be in conflict with different
European laws and regulations (marketing and possession
restrictions of species protected under European law and CITES).
Offering those samples for loaning would (currently) be understood
as offering for marketing (especially CITES) and could provoke
legal action. Even though this is completely stupid and the EU
spends a lot of money to digitalise collections (GBIF, Europeana,
etc.), we have no legal certainty for providing this data online
at the moment.<br>
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2. The European Union will implement a quite restrictive Access
Benefit Legislation on genetic resources next year. Even "genetic
resources" that are not utilised (e.g. specimens used only as
morphological reference, which, however, could potentially be
extracted at any later point) will fall under this regulation. At
the moment we receive different opinions on materials
(DNAs/tissues vs. collection specimens), time of application
(retroactivity), reporting requirements and the planned EU-wide
online-register that - as currently drafted - would violate laws
mentioned above (sic!). Even though Switzerland is not part of the
European Union, it is leading in developing a sound ABS
legislation. Until we have legal certainty here, European
Collections should avoid providing non-European collections
materials online.<br>
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So yes, collections should provide access to specimen data of
in-house databases on such data portals as GBIF, we are active to
receive the required legal certainty, but a clear <u><b>no</b></u>
for entirely online / cloud based collection databases (at least
for European Collections).<br>
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All the best<br>
Dirk<br>
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Am 28.10.2013 18:24, schrieb Doug Yanega:<br>
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I agree with James in recommending a
collections database that is<br>
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1) entirely online so you interface it via a
web-browser from anywhere (no software to
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2) low-cost<br>
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<div>but also would like to emphasize another
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<div>3) serves data to GBIF<br>
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There are only three that I am aware of that fit
these criteria but there may be more:<br>
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- Arctos, which I have been using for over a year now,
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href="http://arctos.database.museum/home.cfm">http://arctos.database.museum/home.cfm</a><br>
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- Symbiota <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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- The Ohio State University Triplehorn Insect Collection
Database - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://osuc.osu.edu/databasing.html">http://osuc.osu.edu/databasing.html</a>
(the developer, Norm Johnson, has worked with others to
mobilize their data onto the web)<br>
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To some degree, the examples Derek points out mix two things; the
database itself, plus a data portal. Most folks get their data
online by using an in-house database and then linking that
database to a data portal. A good example is the American Museum
of Natural History, who runs an online database (fitting criteria
1, at least) that serves its data to the Discover Life data
portal, which also exports all of its data to GBIF. A number of
similar institutions, including my own, use FileMaker as our
database; it has remarkable flexibility, very easy to use and
customize, works on PC and Mac, and can be remote-accessed. The
only point about which I'm not entirely certain is that the server
version can in fact be configured so that people who do NOT have
FileMaker installed can use the interface. I *believe* this is
possible (I'm fairly sure this is how the AMNH system works), but
do not myself know how this is accomplished.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314 skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
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