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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Arsenic is not just a “sensitizer”. It can be taken into the body through respiration, ingestion and absorption through the skin and its toxic. If folks are
working with taxidermy, museum mounts, feathers or skins they should assume the presence of arsenic unless they have documentation of the prep methods available that show it or other toxic materials such as mercuric chloride, DDT, flour of lead, etc. were
not used. Spot testing is not a really great test as noted by some of the responses because it depends on where you sample and if the arsenic etc. is leaching out or not. So if you don’t know, PPE should be worn, bearing in mind that a proper respirator
needs to be fit tested by a professional and all potential contaminants need to be identified so that the best cartridges are selected for the job. In addition, it’s important to cover skin and clothing so that you don’t end up absorbing it or taking it home
to the family on your clothing.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">If a person thinks they have been exposed, they can have urine or hair sampled to check.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’m attaching an SOP that we use, developed after we performed air sampling performed during representative work sessions, and instructions for handling the
potentially contaminated waste from the HEPA filtered vacuums. To determine if the vacuum bags must be treated as hazardous waste TCLP samples must be taken from representative waste. The presence of arsenic or other pesticides or paint flakes does not necessarily
make the waste hazardous, the TCLP sample looks at how much of the hazardous material can leach into the soil at the land fill.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Kirsten Nicholson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 26, 2014 3:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Anderson, Gretchen<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Arsenic testing and general safety standards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I hear you, Gretchen, and agree. That's what I find really perplexing - the apparent lack of concern regarding safety by some folks. But I took it originally as "I must be wrong or overblowing the issue", but now I'm not so sure. Just wish
I could reconcile the approach. We have someone here that just became sensitized to formalin and being anywhere NEAR some of it has nearly catastrophic effects to her life. So I agree its probably best to (a) know what hazards you have in the collections,
(b) always protect yourself with PPE (you might not be sensitive now, but you never know and you don't want to find out the hard way), and (c) if possible, quarantine your collections for possibly contaminated clean specimens.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Thanks all for your comments and I'm looking forward to hearing any more that folks have to offer!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Kirsten<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Anderson, Gretchen <<a href="mailto:AndersonG@carnegiemnh.org" target="_blank">AndersonG@carnegiemnh.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Hi Kristen, et. al.,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Both Fran and Matt make very good points. We know these hazards are present, and it is our responsibility to protect ourselves, our staff and the public. There are lots of ways to do this. We tested our cleaning methods (wearing PPE) and found that even
when cleaning arsenic laden taxidermy in open displays we were not breathing much arsenic – but we were breathing it (or would have been had we not been wearing our HEPA masks). The good news is that the risk was virtually non-existent for the visitor – but
we were up close and personal. Hence the PPE. Our Health and Safety Officer insisted that we wear it.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I have been working with arsenic mounts for three decades. At one institution, I briefly worked
with a technician who was responsible for maintaining taxidermy and study skin collections. She was not wearing her PPE (this was before the concern was wide spread), even though I had recommended it. She had to leave the field because of dermatitis and related
problems. We are all individual – and some of us are more sensitized than others to these hazards. And we are the ones handling the collections. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Arsenic has been applied to specimens in any number of ways- ranging from the arsenic soaps to dusting
specimens. And there are other pesticides that we might not be aware of. We need to be careful. It is our health that is at risk. There are many hazards when working with natural history collections – some applied by our predecessors and others, like radon,
inherent to the specimens. It is worth it to take the precautions. Wear PPE.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D">Gretchen Anderson</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D">Conservator</span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="mailto:Andersong@CarnegieMNH.org" target="_blank">Andersong@CarnegieMNH.org</a></span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cambria","serif";color:#1F497D"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v1/url?u=http://www.carnegiemnh.org&k=diZKtJPqj4jWksRIF4bjkw%3D%3D%0A&r=Fg8uxBA2IYsyw9X3MwZMhg%3D%3D%0A&m=DGo7AMa%2BmiYzQKA%2BrXN%2FpGa2aPz%2Ftq54IMJzLrhthNo%3D%0A&s=d4a8150c746d6eb5e0523870f3e0c95a015da62b168fd89122d5124566962b2a" target="_blank">http://www.carnegiemnh.org</a></span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Fran Ritchie<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 26, 2014 2:53 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Brown, Matthew A<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Arsenic testing and general safety standards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi Kirsten, <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I can see their point--since we're not the ones applying the arsenic anymore, the dangers are quite different than in the past. I worked in one museum where specimens on open display
had arsenic and we weren't concerned for the public safety because they weren't licking them (or, uh, well, they weren't supposed to be). The risk was so small. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">However, I've also worked with collections that had a variety of pesticides added and I developed rashes on exposed areas of skin. I don't think that it harmed me in the long run,
but I had to suit up each day in lab coat, gloves, and tyvex sleeves (I had been missing the sleeves the day of the rashes). <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Even Montagu Browne, a taxidermist who wrote practical manuals in 1884 and 1896 discouraged the use of arsenic because even "a single particle under a fingernail will aggravate"
(pg 64). He also was skeptical that adding arsenic would deter pests. He was right--although many collections are pristine because of pesticides, I have seen an entire (forgotten about) collegiate ornithology collection eaten, despite the fact that the remains
tested positive for arsenic and mercury. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I'll still wear my PPE. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#666666">[references: Browne, Montagu. 1884. Practical Taxidermy: a manual of instruction to the amateur in collecting, preserving, and setting up natural history
specimens of all kinds. To which is added a chapter upon the pictorial arrangement of museums. London: L. Upcott Gill, London and County Printing Works. (Available on-line
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="color:#666666">Browne, Montagu. 1896. Artistic and Scientific Taxidermy and Modeling: a manual of instruction in the methods of reserving and reproducing the correct
form of all natural objects, including a chapter on the modeling of foliage. London: Adam and Charles Black.]</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Brown, Matthew A <<a href="mailto:matthewbrown@utexas.edu" target="_blank">matthewbrown@utexas.edu</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Related to Kirsten's question, I've recently had similar conversations with our Environmental Health and Safety people regarding radon exposure. Radon test kits placed in some of
our cabinets have yielded test results 60x EPA action levels. Yet, when our Radiation Safety office came out to look at it, the inspector had virtually no concerns. He stated that we'd have to live in the cabinet before he'd be worried about it. That didn't
really reassure me, but seems to be the consensus among our EHS team. I still ask my staff to take reasonable precautions when working with hot material.<br>
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Best,<br>
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Matt<br>
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Matthew A. Brown<br>
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Lecturer, Department of Geosciences<br>
The University of Texas at Austin<br>
R7600, Austin, TX 78758<br>
Lab:<a href="tel:%28512%29232-5516" target="_blank">(512)232-5516</a><br>
Office:<a href="tel:%28512%29232-5515" target="_blank">(512)232-5515</a><br>
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On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:10 AM, Kirsten Nicholson <<a href="mailto:norops@gmail.com" target="_blank">norops@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I have a related question to this arsenic thread. Our OSHA and Safety people on campus told me when we were arsenic testing and had concerns that there is very little information available on dermal toxicity of arsenic. In their minds, therefore, since we
weren't using it ourselves or at risk of ingesting it or inhaling it, then there wasn't much concern from their standpoint. I mentioned that (at that time) we had discovered some contaminated specimens in our teaching collection (they were enclosed in tubes,
but still; we've replaced them with clean specimens) and that we were concerned that folks might handle the birds and then either eat afterwards or whatever, and they seemed relatively unconcerned, claiming that an individual would have to consume a large
amount of arsenic to be affected.<br>
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> Can anybody speak to this? Clearly we're all concerned in the museum world for containing affected specimens, yet our health officials really aren't concerned.<br>
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> Thanks,<br>
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> Kirsten<br>
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> On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 9:21 AM, Lena Hernandez <<a href="mailto:LHernandez@themosh.org" target="_blank">LHernandez@themosh.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi all,<br>
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> Recently I attempted testing for arsenic in the mounted specimens of our collection. My issues, that I hope some of you can help with, is that I am getting a negative result on specimens that I am sure have arsenic. Has anyone else run into this problem?
If so how did you solve it? I am following the protocol developed by NPS in their Conserve-o-Gram 2/3 and using Hach’s arsenic test kit, since the one recommended by NPS is no longer made. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Feel free to contact me off
list if you would prefer.<br>
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> Lena Hernandez<br>
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