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    Those who asked about how the new USFWS policy on ivory will affect
    interstate movement of ivory for non-commercial purposes, i.e., for
    scientific research...here is the official answer. As I suggested,
    there is no change. Please note that this same underlying policy -
    no permits needed for interstate movement if there is no commerce -&nbsp;
    pertains to all ESA/CITES material that originated within the U.S.
    or that was imported legally.<br>
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    Ellen<br>
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          <div>Ellen, that's correct.&nbsp; Most of the changes that will
            result from the Director's Order pertain to commerce,
            particularly within the United States, including intra-state
            commerce for items that were imported subject to a
            prohibition on commercial use.<br>
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        Robert R. Gabel
        <div>Chief, Division of Management Authority</div>
        <div>U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service</div>
        <div>4401 N. Fairfax Drive, Room 212</div>
        <div>Arlington, Virginia &nbsp;22203, USA</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 3, 2014 at 2:31 PM, Ellen
          Paul <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>&gt;</span>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi, Roddy,<br>
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            Per many conversations with DMA staffers over the years, I
            have learned that it has always been the interpretation of
            the USFWS as to movement of<br>
            ESA/CITES material that was legally imported, if there is no
            commerce involved (in the common parlance of that word, not
            the legal sense),<br>
            then no permits are needed to ship across state lines from
            one museum/research institution to another. Similarly, if
            the source of the ivory was a deceased zoo animal (from a
            zoo in the U.S.) and the material was going to a museum or
            research institution for research (no sale or other
            commercial transaction involved), that no permit was needed
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            ship across state lines.<br>
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            I'm not seeing anything in the Director's Order re: ivory
            that would change that interpretation/practice but I wanted
            to double-check with you.<br>
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            Thanks.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br>
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                Ellen<br>
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                -- <br>
                Ellen Paul<br>
                Executive Director<br>
                The Ornithological Council<br>
                Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a><br>
                Phone (301) 986 8568<br>
                "Providing Scientific Information about Birds"<br>
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                  href="http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET" target="_blank">http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET</a>"<br>
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