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I agree with Paul, freezing amber is generally a bad idea. My question to you is why are the entomologists freezing amber? If it standard protocol for pest control, they need to understand that specimens that are not sensitive to pest damage, such as amber,
do not need to be frozen. It could cause damage, and it is also a waste of resources (time and money). Freezing resins can be done safely (double bagging etc) but why do it if you don't have to.
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I suggest that the protocols be adapted to make amber the exception rather than the rule.
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Good luck!<br>
Gretchen<br>
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Paul, - thanks for the article! <br>
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Hi Jean,<br>
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Freezing amber is a bad idea. Amber pieces often contain bubbles of liquid. Because water expands when frozen, freezing and thawing amber will likely crack and damage pieces along with their arthropod inclusions. It is even possible for inclusions themselves
to contain liquid. And due to the chemical nature of fossil resins (as natural polymers), freezing and thawing could have other deleterious effects. In fact, it is a general rule that significant temperature fluctuations will compromise amber specimens over
time.<br>
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I've attached a paper on deterioration in fossil resins that addresses conservation protocols. Hope this helps, and please feel free to contact me if you have further questions.<br>
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Regards, Paul<br>
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<div>P.C. Nascimbene <br>
Paleoentomological Research and Collections<br>
Division of Invertebrate Zoology <br>
American Museum of Natural History<br>
79th Street at Central Park West<br>
New York, NY 10024 USA<br>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Friday, March 28, 2014 2:24 PM<br>
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<div class="yiv4967147964MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Most of our amber is held by the Entomology department, who freeze everything before putting it in the collection room. Every time anything goes out, it gets refrozen.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4967147964MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">I am looking for information or references on the effects of freezing and/or repeated freezing on amber.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4967147964MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Assume the conditions are: 48 hours at <0<sup>o</sup> C.</span></div>
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<div class="yiv4967147964MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.</span></div>
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