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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Oops. CBD went into force in 1993. What
      can I say? It is Monday morning.<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ellen Paul
Executive Director
The Ornithological Council
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>
"Providing Scientific Information about Birds<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET">"
http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET"</a>
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      On 3/31/14, 10:16 AM, Ellen Paul wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk -<br>
          <br>
          I agree with you entirely. The effect of Nagoya will be
          contrary to the original purpose of the CBD. Lofty goals (in
          my opinion) get mangled in implementation, much as has been
          the case with CITES and, in the U.S., ESA foreign listings. <br>
          <br>
          There is a time lag at work here. CBD occurred in 2000. Prior
          to 2008, money was flowing freely. Easy credit, lots of cash
          in the system...for context, remember that in 2002, the
          five-year plan to double the budget of the National Institutes
          of Health had just been completed and there was a plan to
          double the budget of the National Science Foundation over the
          next five years. <br>
          <br>
          Governments are no longer willing or able to provide
          sufficient funding, not that funding was ever ample. But did
          anyone predict that things would become this dire? <br>
          <br>
          So here we are in a situation where natural history
          collections are starving for basic operating funds. Smaller
          collections are closing and even some of the most important
          collections are lacking curators or collections managers or
          adequate number of staff. <br>
          <br>
          Where do you get funding if not from government sources? Well,
          of course some have endowments and if you are lucky enough to
          be in the U.S., where the stock market has rebounded, the
          endowments are generating a decent amount of funding. At the
          moment. <br>
          <br>
          So that leaves private sector. Which can loosely be divided
          into two categories - rich people (and corporations,which in
          the U.S., are people) who can be persuaded to make donations
          and private industry who are interested in the properties and
          genetic basis of those properties of the materials in the
          collections. If you have to make a deal with "the devil" as
          corporations are painted - just to keep the doors open and the
          lights on and the collection functioning and accessible - then
          isn't that the lesser of the two evils? <br>
          <br>
          We've been here before:<br>
          <br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/biologists-sought-a-treaty-now-they-fault-it.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/biologists-sought-a-treaty-now-they-fault-it.html</a><br>
          <br>
          And I won't go into details, but ornithologists in the U.S.
          (and Canada, Mexico, and Japan) can attest to the way that the
          noble goal to protect birds has led to a system that - for
          scientific research - is often implemented in a manner that
          actually does nothing at all to protect wild birds. <br>
          <br>
          Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. <br>
          <br>
          I personally found this section of the White House memo to be
          most amusing:<br>
          <br>
          <i>Clearly describe how the agency will apply its scientific
            collections policy as a term and </i><i><br>
          </i><i> condition, as appropriate, of providing funding for
            the acquisition and stewardship of </i><i><br>
          </i><i> scientific collections that are being managed by a
            third party or that the agency does not </i><i><br>
          </i><i> own, but supports or for which it has oversight
            responsibilities. </i><br>
          <br>
          Yes, there are occasional little dribbles of funding from one
          agency or another for specific projects, but even in the best
          of times, did any federal agency support basic stewardship
          costs for the collections managed by third parties (the museum
          community)? <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          Ellen<br>
          <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ellen Paul
Executive Director
The Ornithological Council
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>
"Providing Scientific Information about Birds<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET">"
http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET"</a>
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          On 3/31/14, 5:59 AM, Dirk Neumann wrote:<br>
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            <br>
            maybe I read this wrong, but in the light of the forthcoming
            ratification of the Nagoya Protocol and Access benefit
            sharing (which the US is not going to ratify), <i>"making
              collections more accessible to [...] researchers,
              including non-Federal scientists, to maximize public
              benefit"</i>, establishment of a clearing house and
            cooperation with the Smithsonian (that established already
            voluntary ABS-guidelines) directs between the lines towards
            "making collections available for applied research and
            product development". <br>
            <br>
            While national governments of some industrialised countries
            aim to push collections towards commercialisation, Natural
            History Collections have been identified as potential
            loophole in the ABS system and some NGOs accused collections
            for biopiracy if cooperating too close with industry.
            Non-commercial benefits and capacity building are widely
            ignored among policy makers, and shortcoming for global
            biodiversity research may be assumed (see Buck and Hamilton
            2011). Vogel (2013) summarises some of the issues that may
            be anticipated for collections rather cynical but clear.<br>
            <br>
            With ratification of the Nagoya Protocol later this year
            (the EU &amp; Member States will ratify in few weeks
            completing the quorum that enforces the NP), access,
            accession, transfer and sharing of samples will become more
            difficult, and I doubt that this agrees with the original
            intention of the CBD to conserve global biodiversity and to
            promote biodiversity research ...<br>
            <br>
            Dirk<br>
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            Am 26.03.2014 21:43, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hi all<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  Office of Science &amp; Technology Policy recently
                  issued a new&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                    policy on the management of scientific collections</a>,
                  accompanied by&nbsp;</span><span
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                    House blog</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span
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                    House Tweet</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">Some very
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                  style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                  Andy Bentley<br>
                  Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
                  University of Kansas<br>
                  Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                  lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
                  1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
                  Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
                  USA<br>
                  <br>
                  Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
                  Fax: (785) 864-5335 <br>
                  Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu"><span
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