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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dirk -<br>
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        I agree with you entirely. The effect of Nagoya will be contrary
        to the original purpose of the CBD. Lofty goals (in my opinion)
        get mangled in implementation, much as has been the case with
        CITES and, in the U.S., ESA foreign listings. <br>
        <br>
        There is a time lag at work here. CBD occurred in 2000. Prior to
        2008, money was flowing freely. Easy credit, lots of cash in the
        system...for context, remember that in 2002, the five-year plan
        to double the budget of the National Institutes of Health had
        just been completed and there was a plan to double the budget of
        the National Science Foundation over the next five years. <br>
        <br>
        Governments are no longer willing or able to provide sufficient
        funding, not that funding was ever ample. But did anyone predict
        that things would become this dire? <br>
        <br>
        So here we are in a situation where natural history collections
        are starving for basic operating funds. Smaller collections are
        closing and even some of the most important collections are
        lacking curators or collections managers or adequate number of
        staff. <br>
        <br>
        Where do you get funding if not from government sources? Well,
        of course some have endowments and if you are lucky enough to be
        in the U.S., where the stock market has rebounded, the
        endowments are generating a decent amount of funding. At the
        moment. <br>
        <br>
        So that leaves private sector. Which can loosely be divided into
        two categories - rich people (and corporations,which in the
        U.S., are people) who can be persuaded to make donations and
        private industry who are interested in the properties and
        genetic basis of those properties of the materials in the
        collections. If you have to make a deal with "the devil" as
        corporations are painted - just to keep the doors open and the
        lights on and the collection functioning and accessible - then
        isn't that the lesser of the two evils? <br>
        <br>
        We've been here before:<br>
        <br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/biologists-sought-a-treaty-now-they-fault-it.html">http://www.nytimes.com/2002/05/07/science/biologists-sought-a-treaty-now-they-fault-it.html</a><br>
        <br>
        And I won't go into details, but ornithologists in the U.S. (and
        Canada, Mexico, and Japan) can attest to the way that the noble
        goal to protect birds has led to a system that - for scientific
        research - is often implemented in a manner that actually does
        nothing at all to protect wild birds. <br>
        <br>
        Those who forget the past are condemned to repeat it. <br>
        <br>
        I personally found this section of the White House memo to be
        most amusing:<br>
        <br>
        <i>Clearly describe how the agency will apply its scientific
          collections policy as a term and </i><i><br>
        </i><i> condition, as appropriate, of providing funding for the
          acquisition and stewardship of </i><i><br>
        </i><i> scientific collections that are being managed by a third
          party or that the agency does not </i><i><br>
        </i><i> own, but supports or for which it has oversight
          responsibilities. </i><br>
        <br>
        Yes, there are occasional little dribbles of funding from one
        agency or another for specific projects, but even in the best of
        times, did any federal agency support basic stewardship costs
        for the collections managed by third parties (the museum
        community)? <br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Ellen<br>
        <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ellen Paul
Executive Director
The Ornithological Council
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>
"Providing Scientific Information about Birds<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET">"
http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET"</a>
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        On 3/31/14, 5:59 AM, Dirk Neumann wrote:<br>
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          <br>
          maybe I read this wrong, but in the light of the forthcoming
          ratification of the Nagoya Protocol and Access benefit sharing
          (which the US is not going to ratify), <i>"making collections
            more accessible to [...] researchers, including non-Federal
            scientists, to maximize public benefit"</i>, establishment
          of a clearing house and cooperation with the Smithsonian (that
          established already voluntary ABS-guidelines) directs between
          the lines towards "making collections available for applied
          research and product development". <br>
          <br>
          While national governments of some industrialised countries
          aim to push collections towards commercialisation, Natural
          History Collections have been identified as potential loophole
          in the ABS system and some NGOs accused collections for
          biopiracy if cooperating too close with industry.
          Non-commercial benefits and capacity building are widely
          ignored among policy makers, and shortcoming for global
          biodiversity research may be assumed (see Buck and Hamilton
          2011). Vogel (2013) summarises some of the issues that may be
          anticipated for collections rather cynical but clear.<br>
          <br>
          With ratification of the Nagoya Protocol later this year (the
          EU &amp; Member States will ratify in few weeks completing the
          quorum that enforces the NP), access, accession, transfer and
          sharing of samples will become more difficult, and I doubt
          that this agrees with the original intention of the CBD to
          conserve global biodiversity and to promote biodiversity
          research ...<br>
          <br>
          Dirk<br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
          <br>
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          Am 26.03.2014 21:43, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<br>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">Hi all<o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">The White House
                Office of Science &amp; Technology Policy recently
                issued a new&nbsp;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/microsites/ostp/ostp_memo_scientific_collections_march_2014.pdf">government-wide



                  policy on the management of scientific collections</a>,
                accompanied by&nbsp;</span><span
                style="font-size:11.5pt;color:#1F497D">a&nbsp;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wh.gov/lVJf8">White

                  House blog</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span
                style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">and a&nbsp;<a
                  moz-do-not-send="true"
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                  House Tweet</a>.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">Some very
                interesting reading&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
                lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp; :<br>
&nbsp;}&lt;(((_&deg;&gt;.,.,.,.}&lt;(((_&deg;&gt;.,.,.,.}&lt;)))_&deg;&gt;<br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; V&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; V&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; V<br>
                Andy Bentley<br>
                Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
                University of Kansas<br>
                Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
                lang="EN-AU">Dyche Hall<br>
                1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
                Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
                USA<br>
                <br>
                Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
                Fax: (785) 864-5335 <br>
                Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu"><span style="color:blue">abentley@ku.edu</span></a>&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
                lang="EN-AU"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu/"><span
                    style="color:blue">http://ichthyology.biodiversity.ku.edu</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
                lang="EN-AU"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
                lang="EN-AU">SPNHC President-Elect<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
                lang="EN-AU"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:black"
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                lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
                :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp; :&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A&nbsp; :<br>
&nbsp;}&lt;(((_&deg;&gt;.,.,.,.}&lt;(((_&deg;&gt;.,.,.,.}&lt;)))_&deg;&gt;<br>
                &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; V&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; V&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; V</span><span
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