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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Yes, sure it would. I would be happy to send you some labels and have you immerse them and test it out.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">In the mail today.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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USA<br>
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Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:windowtext"> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 14, 2014 9:03 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">... I see, I should have brought a mouthful with me to Cardiff ...<br>
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Tervuren/MRAC is using a similar system but not exactly the same at there we had peeling ribbon that came off. But good point to test it. Could you send 2-3 of your labels ? I will immerse them in MEK - let's see what happens. Happy to place a jar at the window
for direct exposure.<br>
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What do you think ? Would it be worth trying ?<br>
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All the best<br>
Dirk<br>
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Am 14.07.2014 15:45, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Dirk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Don’t knock it until you have tried it
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"> Has anyone using MEKI denatured alcohol tried using this labelling system and found it to fail?
I would be interested in hearing from anyone who has.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">We have been using this system for over 10 years now plus I have had an informal test going on my windowsill in full sunlight in 95% ethanol, and conc formalin
for over 7 years now without any visible adverse effects. There are also the accelerated aging tests done on the material that I published in my newsletter article.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The only negative effects I have seen are when the incorrect ribbon is used with the media which causes the print to flake off.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Ichthyology Collection Manager<br>
University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
USA<br>
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Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
Fax: (785) 864-5335 <br>
Email: <a href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu">abentley@ku.edu</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dirk Neumann<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 14, 2014 2:27 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Dorothy, (Patrick),<br>
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always bickering with Andy here (Hi Andy ;-) <br>
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- again, know your settings: this method works well for fluid collections which e.g. use undenatured alcohol or were the denaturing agent is not reactive against plastics. I would definitely refrain to use this labelling method in our fish collection as we
have to use MEK denatured alcohol. MEK is a highly aggressive and reactive ketone, which is very well known to cracks down polymer-chains.
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European collections should be very careful here, especially in the light of the new EU-directive EU No. 162/2013 which prescribes even higher amounts of MEK for denaturing and prescribes usage of MEK in those countries which used different denaturing agents
prior to 2013 (e.g. IMS / camphor).<br>
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All the best<br>
Dirk<br>
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Am 11.07.2014 17:51, schrieb Bentley, Andrew Charles:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>Wet collections have been using this system for some time now for alcohol labels with very good results. We are printing on to a spun bound polyester using a thermal transfer printer and wax/resin ribbon. This is obviously not a sticky backed label kind of media but I am sure a similar kind of thing could be sourced. Attached is some information on the system and printer that we use as well as a price list from Alpha Systems, the company through we which we buy our supplies.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Happy to provide further information or label samples if needed<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>From: <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Sweeney, Patrick<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 10:36 AM<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Cc: Dorothy Allard<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Subject: [Nhcoll-l] FW: [HERBARIA] polypropylene annotation labels?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>On 7/10/14 9:45 AM, "Dorothy J. Allard" <a href="mailto:djallard@uvm.edu"><djallard@uvm.edu></a> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>We are looking for a print-on-demand (printing one label at a time) <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>method of annotating herbarium sheets. Can anyone share their <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>experience with thermal transfer label printers (_not_ direct thermal) <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>using wax resin ribbons and polypropylene labels? I am particularly <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>interested in the community's opinion on the likelihood that such <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>labels will be readable for the long term and will not break down.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>We are considering the purchase of a Zebra GC420t printer, wax/resin <o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></pre>
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