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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">I would add to Liz’s comment that anyone who has had experience with gas-phase fire suppression systems (various gasses) can verify that thesenot only pose a risk to human health, but when they discharge, they
do a tremendous amount of physical damage to collections.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Water-based mist systems are gaining in popularity and based on testing at the National Gallery of Art, seem to work well. They are a variant on standard water-based, wet-pipe systems that may merit exploration.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Dietrich, Elizabeth<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 25, 2014 5:27 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Majken Them Tøttrup; nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Fire prevention and fire fighting in collection halls<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Keep in mind that fire fighters will deluge a building with millions of liters of water if a fire is not suppressed by your suppression system, so opting against a water
based system may not save your collection from water damage. Look at the performance of various sprinklers systems before choosing-a wet pipe system may be more reliable in putting out a fire when it first starts than a dry pipe system.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Something to keep in mind with low oxygen storage is that it creates a similar risk to humans as a confined space are you going to be able to let people (visitors as well
as staff) access the collection? would an elderly staff member with lung disease be able to work in the space. If not, would the objects have to be removed from the room for use by researcher? Would this be detrimental to the collection?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">The more combustible/flammable liquids you have stored in a room, the less likely fire fighters will want to risk entering the room/facility in a fire situation. Wet
collections therefore require a lot of engineering in the design of the space to reduce the risk of ignition and spread of fire.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">You need to include users, fire engineers, industrial hygienists and safety specialists in discussion of strategies for housing wet collections. The best design will
acknowledge the needs of the users in the design so that staff can work within the constraints imposed by the design and not try to circumvent the design features. One example is the use of electrical equipment inside the space. Do users need to use camera
and lights, laptops, wireless antennae, Stryker saws, electric pumps, etc.? How can these needs be accommodated? If they are not included in the design will staff run multiple extension cords into the space and connect regular electrical devices in order
to accomplish their work, thus creating a bigger hazard? Or can and air compressor be used to run some equipment, can repeaters be located outside the room with just the antennae protruding into the room, can military grade explosion proof laptops be used?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">From:</span></b><span lang="DA" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu] on behalf of Majken Them Tøttrup [mtottrup@snm.ku.dk]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 23, 2014 5:20 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Fire prevention and fire fighting in collection halls</span><span lang="DA" style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear all</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">We are planning for new storage facilities in Copenhagen and we would like some input on the different ways to prevent and fight fire.
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We have discussed the following methods; sprinkling, low oxygen, inert gas.</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="color:black">Are there any other ways/methods to prevent and actively fight fire?</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="color:black">What do you use – and what are your experiences?</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span><span style="color:black">Do you prevent/fight fire differently in dry and wet collections?</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="DA" style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">All input are highly appreciated </span>
<span style="font-family:Wingdings;color:black">J</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Best regards,</span><span lang="DA" style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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