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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dear Leanne,<br>
      <br>
      assuming that you have to rely on top-marking of tubes, this
      surely offers no solution for your problem but might be a good
      alternative worth mentioning in this context:<br>
      <br>
      If it is OK that labels are sitting on the tubes rather then on
      the caps (with the disadvantage that you need to pull out tubes
      out of racks to read the labels), sufficiently high quality paper
      tags (e.g. used to mark slides in the old analogous days) with
      desk jet printers using pigmented ink might offer a solution. Pro:
      allows pre-configurated computer based printing of labels (capable
      to include more information than just a tube ID), no time
      consuming handwriting and readability issues, ID stays with the
      tube rather than with the cap that might get interchanged. Con:
      tubes need to be pulled out to read information, repeated handling
      of tubes might damage labels, labels might fail below -25°C.<br>
      <br>
      Some tubes offer a variety of different cap inlays which allow
      colour coding (e.g. for different collections under storage); some
      inlays are PE and thus more stable than PVC inlays (which might
      deteriorate faster)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.thermoscientific.com_en_product_nunc-2Dstorage-2Dvials-2Dcaps.html&d=AwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=kEY-vxWWw-1IC3GNgJQcotc2YRUaQUVZHoCdV1uJ3NQ&s=9v0rqjzCbIttBbBq6o35EqSQYFZ4l3WT19HFIVBnukg&e=">http://www.thermoscientific.com/en/product/nunc-storage-vials-caps.html</a><br>
      <br>
      Another option is to look for specific solutions offered for
      clinical biobanks and blood banks: for long-term storage e.g. for
      huge cohort studies which need to keep samples for decades, and
      those need to be properly marked. We received a offer from a
      French supplier few years ago, but didn't order. The homepage only
      offers information in French, but there are surely similar
      companies (e.g. Thermo Fisher) which offer similar solutions. <br>
      <br>
      Al the best<br>
      Dirk  <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Am 16.01.2015 um 18:37 schrieb Vanessa Rhue:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">You may also be interested in reading through an
        article by Amy Davidson, Samantha Alderson, and Marilyn Fox. You
        will find some good pointers on labeling technique and excellent
        illustrations.  It's a great go to reference when training 
        students or volunteers to label specimens.  The article has a
        paleontological focus, but the principles would transfer to
        other disciplines.  We've had good results using the white
        acrylic paint as a base with Pigma pens for writing on plastic
        vial caps and corks.<br>
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        Link to article by Davidson etal:<br>
        <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__vertpaleo.org_PDFS_7f_7f3a76e9-2De87c-2D4b0a-2Da893-2D8e9b53a6efec.pdf&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=nAU23P6OIhIrr6ZWVPZpi53eDTKQocB1aU7wZAxUq_c&s=P5KLbxcWl7z_1gokxYRsxdbgKxFF_e7vz8IkYCU9gyE&e=">Assembling
          an Archival Marking Kit for Paleontological Specimens</a><br>
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        <div>Cheers,<br>
          <br>
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        <div>VRR<br>
          <br>
          Vanessa R. Rhue<br>
          Assistant Collections Manager<br>
          Department of Vertebrate Paleontology<br>
          <br>
          Natural History Museum of Los Angeles County<br>
          900 Exposition Blvd<br>
          Los Angeles, CA 90007<br>
          Tel. (213) 763-3248<br>
          Fax (213) 746-7431<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 9:10 AM, John E
          Simmons <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com" target="_blank">simmons.johne@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
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              <div>Paul's advice is good, but I don't recommend using
                White-Out because most of the brands available are not
                archivally stable. Instead, use a good
                conservation-approved acrylic base such as:<br>
                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gaylord.com_Preservation_Artifact-2D-2526-2DCollectibles-2DPreservation_Labeling-2D-2526-2DSupplies_White-2DAcrylic-2DFluid_p_51003&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=YqqVLOReUthShm1JrmJ7jl6txZ_p0GKSefbqLnvZdo8&s=A5GrjHGawx4cCnZ1THlCZlvF2ZbDk7Z3NdfPPnevJrQ&e=" target="_blank">http://www.gaylord.com/Preservation/Artifact-%26-Collectibles-Preservation/Labeling-%26-Supplies/White-Acrylic-Fluid/p/51003</a><br>
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              --John<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">John E. Simmons<br>
                    Museologica<br>
                    128 E. Burnside Street<br>
                    Bellefonte, Pennsylvania 16823-2010<br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:simmons.johne@gmail.com" target="_blank">simmons.johne@gmail.com</a><br>
                    <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:303-681-5708" value="+13036815708" target="_blank">303-681-5708</a><br>
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                    and<br>
                    Adjunct Curator of Collections<br>
                    Earth and Mineral Science Museum &amp; Art Gallery<br>
                    Penn State University<br>
                    University Park, Pennsylvania<br>
                    and<br>
                    Instructor, Museum Studies<br>
                    School of Library and Information Science<br>
                    Kent State University<br>
                    and<br>
                    Lecturer in Art<br>
                    Juniata College<br>
                    Huntingdon, Pennsylvania<br>
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                  <div class="h5">On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:54 AM,
                    Callomon,Paul <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:prc44@drexel.edu" target="_blank">prc44@drexel.edu</a>&gt;</span>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#1f497d">If
                              the vials have phenolic (black hard
                              plastic) caps, you should get good results
                              by sanding them lightly, coating them with
                              white-out and writing on them with Pigma
                              pens. This is a standard geology
                              technique, and lasts for at least several
                              decades.</span></p>
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                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Elder, Leanne<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 16, 2015
                                  10:08 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Best pen
                                  for tough spot labels</span></p>
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                                      everyone,
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                                      Does anyone use microtube
                                      tough-spots (by diversified
                                      biotech) to put labels on the tops
                                      of 1 dram vials? I tried archival
                                      ink pens but they smear, and
                                      sharpie is slowly fading. I was
                                      hoping for a suggestion on what to
                                      use to write on them.
                                      Alternatively does anyone have a
                                      preferred small circle label for
                                      vials that does work with archival
                                      ink pens?<br>
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                                      Thanks so much for the help. <br>
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                                      Kind Regards, <br>
                                      Leanne</span></p>
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                                                      Elder, PhD<br>
                                                      Laboratory Manager<br>
                                                      Department of
                                                      Geology and
                                                      Geophysics<br>
                                                      Yale University<br>
                                                      Environmental
                                                      Science Center,
                                                      Room 250<br>
                                                      21 Sachem Street<br>
                                                      New Haven,
                                                      Connecticut 06511<br>
                                                      Lab: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:203-432-7383" value="+12034327383" target="_blank">203-432-7383</a><br>
                                                      Cell: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="tel:860-805-2211" value="+18608052211" target="_blank">860-805-2211</a><br>
                                                      email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:Leanne.elder@yale.edu" target="_blank">Leanne.elder@yale.edu</a><br>
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Dirk Neumann

Tel: 089 / 8107-111
Fax: 089 / 8107-300
email: Dirk.Neumann(a)zsm.mwn.de

Postanschrift:

Staatliche Naturwissenschaftliche Sammlungen Bayerns
Zoologische Staatssammlung München
Dirk Neumann, Sektion Ichthyologie / DNA-Labor
Münchhausenstr. 21
81247 München

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Dirk Neumann

Tel: +49-89-8107-111
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email: Dirk.Neumann(a)zsm.mwn.de

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Bavarian Natural History Collections
The Bavarian State Collection of Zoology
Dirk Neumann, Section Ichthyology / DNA-Lab
Muenchhausenstr. 21
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