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<div>Hi John,</div>
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<div>This may not apply to you, but in Australia both total volume and the volume contained in individual storage containers is used to determine whether an EtOH collection (whether frozen or room temperature) requires specialised housing.</div>
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<div>For example, if you have a total of 52 litres per freezer in a SINGLE container then it would merit requiring a flammable material freezer. However, if your total of 52 L is comprised of thousands of tiny vials then the risk is much lower. This is based
on the premise that IF a fire started in that freezer, then each container would need to be breached for the EtOH to become hazardous. </div>
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<div>We have an EtOH collection at room temperature that equates to many hundreds of litres of EtOH but have been advised that, because each vial is only a maximum of 10mL at most, that this does not require any special provision. Whether we should anyway is
another question… :)</div>
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<div>It might be worth checking if this rule also applies in your State/the US.</div>
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<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Beth</div>
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Subject: [Nhcoll-l] Freezer storage of EtoH tissue samples<br>
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<div class="">I am curious to know how people on this list deal with cold storage for DNA samples in ethanol.</div>
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<div class="">We have thousands of tissue samples and fish fin clips preserved in 95% EtOH in 2ml Sarstedt screw cap vials. We typically store 16 boxes of 81 tubes per freezer rack and can fit 20 racks in a refrigerator/freezer. This makes for a maximum of
52 liters or 13.7 gallons of EtOH stored in such a refrigerator/freezer.</div>
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<div class="">We have been informed by Environmental Health and Safety at our institution that it is improper to store these in regular freezers (as opposed to prohibitively expensive, specialized “flammable material” freezers).</div>
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<div class="">This person cited <span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 15px;" class="">NFPA 45 10.5.2 and 12.2.2 and Article 501 of code 70 the National Electrical code.</span></div>
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<div class="">Here are links to EH&S pages at several institutions that seem to indicate ethanol storage requires flammable material freezers:</div>
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<div class="">However, my informal polling of colleagues on Facebook suggests that many of them do in fact store screw-top tubes with tissue samples in ethanol in regular freezers (though perhaps without the approval/oversight of their EH&S departments). My
view is that fire/explosion risk from storage of these vials must be negligible to non-existent. The flashpoint of pure EtoH is 16.6°C. This temp would only be reached if a freezer failed and no action was taken for a long period of time. The risk of EtOH
vapors concentrating in any quantity near internal mechanisms that could spark are minimal since tubes are sealed.</div>
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<div class="">My questions are: Has anyone here received explicit clearance from their EH&S to store EtOH tissue samples in regular freezers? If you got this, what was required to obtain it? If you have ethanol-preserved tissue samples, how do you store
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