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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">You know, I'm trying to think of a
      National Wildlife Refuge that I've visited that has more than two
      people on duty at any particular time, even during "tourist
      season." The parks, refuges, and other DOI-managed public lands
      are generally understaffed, with the possible exception of the big
      parks like Yellowstone or Glacier. And most of the staff are
      public safety types.<br>
      <br>
      It is hard to imagine the staff at these places having the time to
      research the unit boundaries at any point in time for every museum
      in the U.S. that needs this information. Sorry but I think you are
      being unrealistic. <br>
      <br>
      Ellen<br>
      <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ellen Paul
Executive Director
The Ornithological Council
Email: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>
"Providing Scientific Information about Birds<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nmnh.si.edu_BIRDNET&d=AwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=o-kHA8BbB3oKdydmfZ9Jbpnie2pND789t71CZPOC3I4&s=1hT8SEfe5W0M2aUOChvSYTDR1BXxrJ2bFXaifOk7K2k&e=">"
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      On 2/18/15 2:05 PM, Michelle Pinsdorf wrote:<br>
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      cite="mid:1380437325.820218.1424286307949.JavaMail.yahoo@mail.yahoo.com"
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        <div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_90290"
          dir="ltr">I don't believe it's up to individual collections
          workers to research the history of every land management unit
          - that information is readily available from the units
          themselves, including the history of the area prior to it
          changing to park/refuge/etc. The unit's archivists/collections
          managers/other staff should be aware of their responsibility
          to assist in clarifying records where they can. Even defunct
          units (Cycad National Monument, for example) or situations of
          changed stewardship (shifting public/tribal/private patchworks
          on reservations, for example) still have well-documented
          histories and current stewards of that information to keep it
          in public access.</div>
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          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_103019" dir="ltr"><br>
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        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_103020" dir="ltr">Technology
          and the ability to combine maps and GPS data on-site in the
          field are a huge benefit to modern collecting. The requirement
          to record and report this data improves legal validity
          and scientific value of specimens for both the collecting
          institution and the permitting land management agency.
          Nowadays, there should be no shrugged shoulders as to land
          ownership at the time of collection, particularly when it
          comes to legal responsibilities/trespassing concerns/etc. on
          the boundaries between public and private land.</div>
        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_112034" dir="ltr"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_111590" dir="ltr">However, for
          specimens collected in the past, of course all museum
          collections have the problem of 'bad data' and 'no data'
          specimens. As others have said, the need to put the work in to
          rectify those records as much as possible is part of
          collections management as a whole - not an undue burden
          imposed by this particular request. Say, for example, a
          specimen may have been collected from a site prior to its
          inclusion within the boundary of a park/refuge/etc. The
          specimen locality is known, but the collecting date is not.
          Filling in that blank is important to resolving a slew of
          potential stewardship issues, and the onus is on the
          collecting institution to do so. This is why the request
          includes specimens that 'may have' been collected from public
          land, not just the ones previously known to have been.</div>
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          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_133438" dir="ltr"><br>
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        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_133437" dir="ltr">Working with
          the staff of the land management unit of concern is the best
          way to take the 'guess' out of 'educated guess', improve
          records and data across the board, and reduce the work
          required by the collecting institution.</div>
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          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_140426" dir="ltr"><br>
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        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_140427" dir="ltr">Michelle
          Pinsdorf</div>
        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_140428" dir="ltr">Fossil
          Preparator</div>
        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_141302" dir="ltr">Department of
          Paleobiology</div>
        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_140429" dir="ltr">Smithsonian
          Institution National Museum of Natural History</div>
        <div class="qtdSeparateBR"
          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_142177" dir="ltr"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pinsdorfm@si.edu">pinsdorfm@si.edu</a></div>
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                  id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_90288" face="Arial"
                  size="2"> On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 12:55 PM,
                  Ellen Paul <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">&lt;ellen.paul@verizon.net&gt;</a> wrote:</font><br>
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                        <div class="yiv1345363178moz-cite-prefix"
                          id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_89855">How do
                          you know that the specific place was within a
                          park (or refuge, or whatever) when the
                          specimen was collected? Even if already
                          declared as a protected area, the boundaries
                          were likely different. Most parks and other
                          protected areas were created and then land was
                          added as it became available. Many had - and
                          still have - inholdings. When I walk down the
                          trails in Shenandoah National Park, I often
                          see signs that state that the trail will cross
                          through private lands, but the actual
                          boundaries are not marked. How do I know,
                          then, when I collect something, if I am inside
                          the park boundaries or if I am on the private
                          property? Yes, if I have a good gps, I can
                          check later. <br>
                          <br>
                          The first national park was created in 1916.
                          Prior to that time, it was part of the Wyoming
                          and Montana territories. Congress reserved the
                          area for Yellowstone in 1872. In theory, you
                          would have to go back to the Louisiana
                          Purchase (1803) because that is when it became
                          U.S. land.<br>
                          <br>
                          The first national wildlife refuge was created
                          in 1903. Not sure who owned it prior to the
                          creation of the refuge. <br>
                          <br>
                          You would have to trace the history of each
                          park, refuge, etc. to know if it was public
                          land at the time the specimen was collected
                          and then trace the acquisition of each piece
                          of land or change in boundaries. <br>
                          <br>
                          Why would you include something simply because
                          the place is now a park if it wasn't a park at
                          the time the specimen was collected? This is
                          of particular concern given the stance on
                          ownership and the implications that ownership
                          carries. <br>
                          <br>
                          Is "educated guess" the appropriate and
                          accepted standard?<br>
                          <br>
                          Note that the Inspector General report that
                          this measure addresses states that "<span
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                            normal;">...DOI says it will take 20 yrs to
                            complete full cataloguing." The IG says that
                            DOI will need to allocate resources.<br>
                            <br>
                            Yet the non-feds are supposed to do it in 2
                            hrs 20 minutes and of course have loads of
                            money and staff to do it with. <br>
                          </span><br>
                          <br>
                          Ellen<br>
                          <br>
                          <pre class="yiv1345363178moz-signature">Ellen Paul
Executive Director
The Ornithological Council
Email: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="yiv1345363178moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>
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http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET"</a>
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                          On 2/18/15 8:59 AM, Anita Cholewa wrote:<br>
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                          <div id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_146566"
                            dir="ltr">In a way, this is what all the
                            digitization projects are seeking to do --
                            catalog exactly what we all have in the
                            collections.  
                            <div>Currently, here we actually are
                              entering specimen data from lands that are
                              now parks -- since I and others have been
                              to many, place names are familiar so we
                              can make educated guesses and when
                              georeferencing is done, they can be placed
                              in or pretty close to parks.</div>
                            <div>Does it take more of my time and that
                              of my assistants.  Absolutely.  Is it good
                              stewardship -- absolutely.</div>
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                            <div>Anita</div>
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                                  dir="ltr">__________<br>
                                  Anita F. Cholewa, Ph.D.<br>
                                  Curator of the UM Herbarium (MIN)<br>
                                     and Acting Curator of Lichens <br>
                                  J.F. Bell Museum of Natural History<br>
                                  University of Minnesota<br>
                                  1445 Gortner Ave<br>
                                  ST PAUL MN 55108-1095<br>
                                  <br>
                                  campus mail code: 6022<br>
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                              id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_110437">On
                              Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Brown,
                              Matthew A <span
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                                dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_110441" href="mailto:matthewbrown@utexas.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:matthewbrown@utexas.edu">matthewbrown@utexas.edu</a>&gt;</span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                  id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_110440">&gt;
                                  Are you really going to take the time
                                  to go back through your collections -
                                  every item! - to determine what came
                                  from  DOI-managed public lands - ever
                                  - even though not georeferenced that
                                  precisely at the time collected, even
                                  though the exact site may or may not
                                  have been DOI-managed public land at
                                  the time?<br>
                                  <br>
                                </span>Um... yes.  I'd be a pretty poor
                                steward if I couldn't be accountable for
                                what my institution holds in our public
                                trust collections.<br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                <br>
                                Matthew A. Brown<br>
                                Head of Collections, Vertebrate
                                Paleontology Laboratory<br>
                                Lecturer, Department of Geological
                                Sciences<br>
                                Jackson School of Geosciences<br>
                                The University of Texas at Austin<br>
                                R7600, Austin, TX 78758<br>
                                Office:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href=""
                                  rel="nofollow">(512)232-5515</a><br>
                                <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:matthewbrown@utexas.edu" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:matthewbrown@utexas.edu">matthewbrown@utexas.edu</a><br>
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                                  <br>
                                  &gt; On Feb 17, 2015, at 12:25 PM,
                                  Ellen Paul &lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true" id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_140424" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>&gt;



                                  wrote:<br>
                                  &gt;<br>
                                  &gt; I hope everyone has read or will
                                  read this specific item because it is
                                  a big deal for museum collections:<br>
                                  &gt;<br>
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                                    id="yui_3_16_0_1_1424265065912_111049">&gt;<br>
                                    &gt; Under the Paperwork Reduction
                                    Act, federal agencies can't request
                                    information from non-federal
                                    entities or citizens without
                                    permission from the White House
                                    Office of Management and Budget. To
                                    obtain approval for an Information
                                    Collection Request (ICR) they must
                                    publish the proposed ICR for comment
                                    which is what they are doing here.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; This request is no doubt in
                                    part a result of the reports of the
                                    Inspector General (at least two over
                                    the past decade) that criticized DOI
                                    rather harshly for not having
                                    adequate inventories of stuff
                                    collected from public lands managed
                                    by DOI agencies       (USFWS, NPS,
                                    BLM).<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; Take a good look at what they
                                    are going to require you to do.
                                    We've had this discussion in the
                                    context of the NPS situation. Are
                                    you really going to take the time to
                                    go back through your collections -
                                    every item! - to determine what came
                                    from  DOI-managed public lands -
                                    ever - even though not georeferenced
                                    that precisely at the time
                                    collected, even though the exact
                                    site may or may not have been
                                    DOI-managed public land at the time?
                                    You'd have to know the boundaries of
                                    each site at the time of collection,
                                    assuming it was even designated as
                                    a:<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; National Wildlife Refuge<br>
                                    &gt; National Park<br>
                                    &gt; Public land area managed by the
                                    BLM<br>
                                    &gt; National wildlife preserve<br>
                                    &gt; Elk refuge<br>
                                    &gt; National bird refuge<br>
                                    &gt; etc.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; at the time of collection.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; And they estimate that this
                                    will take 2 hrs, 20 minutes per
                                    year.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; THEY RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN
                                    RESPONSE TO THE PRIOR NOTICE
                                    PUBLISHED IN MARCH 2014.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; The Department of the Interior
                                    invites comments on: (a) Whether the
                                    collection of information is
                                    necessary for the proper performance
                                    of the functions of the agency,
                                    including whether the information
                                    will have practical utility; (b) The
                                    accuracy of the agency’s estimate of
                                    the burden of the collection and the
                                    validity of the methodology and
                                    assumptions used; (c) Ways to
                                    enhance the quality, utility, and
                                    clarity of the information to be
                                    collected; and (d) Ways to minimize
                                    the burden of the collection of
                                    information on those who are to
                                    respond, including through the use
                                    of appropriate automated,
                                    electronic, mechanical, or other
                                    collection techniques or other forms
                                    of information technology.
                                    ‘‘Burden’’ means the total time,
                                    effort, or financial resources
                                    expended by persons to generate,
                                    maintain, retain, disclose, or
                                    provide information to or for a
                                    federal agency. This includes the
                                    time needed to review instructions;
                                    to develop, acquire, install and
                                    utilize technology and systems for
                                    the purpose       of collecting,
                                    validating and verifying
                                    information, processing and<br>
                                    &gt; maintaining information, and
                                    disclosing and providing
                                    information; to train personnel and
                                    to be able to respond to a
                                    collection of information, to search
                                    data sources, to complete and review
                                    the collection of information; and
                                    to transmit or otherwise disclose
                                    the information.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; Think about the potential
                                    consequences of not complying once
                                    this goes into effect.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; I really suggest you read this
                                    notice carefully.<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; Ellen<br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; Ellen Paul<br>
                                    &gt; Executive Director<br>
                                    &gt; The Ornithological Council<br>
                                    &gt; Email:<br>
                                    &gt; <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a><br>
                                    &gt;<br>
                                    &gt; "Providing Scientific
                                    Information about Birds<br>
                                    &gt; "<br>
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