<div dir="ltr">In a way, this is what all the digitization projects are seeking to do -- catalog exactly what we all have in the collections. <div>Currently, here we actually are entering specimen data from lands that are now parks -- since I and others have been to many, place names are familiar so we can make educated guesses and when georeferencing is done, they can be placed in or pretty close to parks.</div><div>Does it take more of my time and that of my assistants. Absolutely. Is it good stewardship -- absolutely.</div><div><br></div><div>Anita</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr">__________<br>Anita F. Cholewa, Ph.D.<br>Curator of the UM Herbarium (MIN)<br> and Acting Curator of Lichens <br>J.F. Bell Museum of Natural History<br>University of Minnesota<br>1445 Gortner Ave<br>ST PAUL MN 55108-1095<br><br>campus mail code: 6022<br></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 5:16 PM, Brown, Matthew A <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthewbrown@utexas.edu" target="_blank">matthewbrown@utexas.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> Are you really going to take the time to go back through your collections - every item! - to determine what came from DOI-managed public lands - ever - even though not georeferenced that precisely at the time collected, even though the exact site may or may not have been DOI-managed public land at the time?<br>
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</span>Um... yes. I'd be a pretty poor steward if I couldn't be accountable for what my institution holds in our public trust collections.<br>
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Matthew A. Brown<br>
Head of Collections, Vertebrate Paleontology Laboratory<br>
Lecturer, Department of Geological Sciences<br>
Jackson School of Geosciences<br>
The University of Texas at Austin<br>
R7600, Austin, TX 78758<br>
Office:<a href="tel:%28512%29232-5515" value="+15122325515">(512)232-5515</a><br>
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> On Feb 17, 2015, at 12:25 PM, Ellen Paul <<a href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I hope everyone has read or will read this specific item because it is a big deal for museum collections:<br>
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</span>> <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gpo.gov_fdsys_pkg_FR-2D2015-2D02-2D03_html_2015-2D01880.htm&d=AwIF-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=nOx2v156D8uT1thUwsFwrfYvlGSuQwB5albVTXKh5v8&s=SWv4ecrUIXFG5zsWfnHrFuQJPhIv9KEo92dbsnRymkA&e=" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.gpo.gov_fdsys_pkg_FR-2D2015-2D02-2D03_html_2015-2D01880.htm&d=AwIF-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=nOx2v156D8uT1thUwsFwrfYvlGSuQwB5albVTXKh5v8&s=SWv4ecrUIXFG5zsWfnHrFuQJPhIv9KEo92dbsnRymkA&e=</a><br>
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> Under the Paperwork Reduction Act, federal agencies can't request information from non-federal entities or citizens without permission from the White House Office of Management and Budget. To obtain approval for an Information Collection Request (ICR) they must publish the proposed ICR for comment which is what they are doing here.<br>
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> This request is no doubt in part a result of the reports of the Inspector General (at least two over the past decade) that criticized DOI rather harshly for not having adequate inventories of stuff collected from public lands managed by DOI agencies (USFWS, NPS, BLM).<br>
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> Take a good look at what they are going to require you to do. We've had this discussion in the context of the NPS situation. Are you really going to take the time to go back through your collections - every item! - to determine what came from DOI-managed public lands - ever - even though not georeferenced that precisely at the time collected, even though the exact site may or may not have been DOI-managed public land at the time? You'd have to know the boundaries of each site at the time of collection, assuming it was even designated as a:<br>
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> National Wildlife Refuge<br>
> National Park<br>
> Public land area managed by the BLM<br>
> National wildlife preserve<br>
> Elk refuge<br>
> National bird refuge<br>
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> And they estimate that this will take 2 hrs, 20 minutes per year.<br>
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> THEY RECEIVED NO COMMENTS IN RESPONSE TO THE PRIOR NOTICE PUBLISHED IN MARCH 2014.<br>
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> The Department of the Interior invites comments on: (a) Whether the collection of information is necessary for the proper performance of the functions of the agency, including whether the information will have practical utility; (b) The accuracy of the agency’s estimate of the burden of the collection and the validity of the methodology and assumptions used; (c) Ways to enhance the quality, utility, and clarity of the information to be collected; and (d) Ways to minimize the burden of the collection of information on those who are to respond, including through the use of appropriate automated, electronic, mechanical, or other collection techniques or other forms of information technology. ‘‘Burden’’ means the total time, effort, or financial resources expended by persons to generate, maintain, retain, disclose, or provide information to or for a federal agency. This includes the time needed to review instructions; to develop, acquire, install and utilize technology and systems for the purpose of collecting, validating and verifying information, processing and<br>
> maintaining information, and disclosing and providing information; to train personnel and to be able to respond to a collection of information, to search data sources, to complete and review the collection of information; and to transmit or otherwise disclose the information.<br>
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> Think about the potential consequences of not complying once this goes into effect.<br>
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> I really suggest you read this notice carefully.<br>
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> Ellen<br>
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> Ellen Paul<br>
> Executive Director<br>
> The Ornithological Council<br>
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> <a href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a><br>
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> "Providing Scientific Information about Birds<br>
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