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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Thanks, Jane, for forwarding this.<br>
      <br>
      It is true that this is not regulatory. As I noted in my initial
      alert, "Under the Paperwork Reduction Act, federal agencies can't
      request information from non-federal entities or citizens without
      permission from the White House Office of Management and Budget.
      To obtain approval for an Information Collection Request (ICR)
      they must publish the proposed ICR for comment which is what they
      are doing here."<br>
      <br>
      I don't think the issue is as simple as "there will be no
      repercussions" for failing to submit the information and I'd bet
      my last dollar that no DOI official would be willing to go on the
      record as saying that. I also doubt it is necessarily true. It
      could very well be the basis for refusing to issue or renew a
      permit, for instance.<br>
      <br>
      However, the ICR raises other issues of concern. If your
      institution has already accessioned the materials, then how can
      you submit anything that indicates the item was accessioned into a
      DOI collection? Will you need to de-accession first?<br>
      <br>
      If you review the full proposed ICR (top document here: 
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.reginfo.gov_public_do_PRAViewDocument-3Fref-5Fnbr-3D201412-2D1084-2D001&d=AwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=9KrnUnldcK3ZfHPvPpmPdGu2cGKPd7_h4xpOOunblX4&s=yHSYTaSWJPbmjIxmt4fC0eHMSc9k66rUrPAPEkA9qlg&e=">http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/PRAViewDocument?ref_nbr=201412-1084-001</a>),
      you will see that is clear that they are talking about accession
      into a DOI collection, which is consistent with the claim of DOI
      ownership. It would be inconsistent with that claim of ownership
      by someone other than your institution to accession an item into
      your own collection. You would need a DOI accession number and a
      DOI accession record for each item. <br>
      <br>
      I realize that the different kinds of collections do things
      differently, so perhaps the paleontological and geological
      collections have been using DOI accession numbers and maintaining
      DOI accession books as described in the notice. To the best of my
      knowledge, this not true for biological collections.<br>
      <br>
      I hope this is a start to building better partnerships. Anyone who
      has been reading NH-Coll for even part of the past decade will
      recall that prior, strenuous efforts to do that in the context of
      resolving key issues were unsuccessful.<br>
      <br>
      Ellen Paul<br>
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      On 2/23/15 8:23 AM, Jane MacKnight wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Jackie
            Hoff and I reached out to AAM about the proposed DOI notice.
            Please see Gail Ravnitzky Silberglied’s response below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            C. MacKnight<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Director
            Museum Planning<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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            513-287-7092<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                Gail Ravnitzky Silberglied
                [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:gsilberglied@aam-us.org">mailto:gsilberglied@aam-us.org</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday, February 21, 2015 8:21 PM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jackie Hoff; Jane MacKnight<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Staci Dennison<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> RE: Proposed Dept of Interior
                regulations pertaining to museum collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Please
            see below a message from AAM on DOI:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Dear
            colleagues on the SPNHC and RCAAM listserv,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I
            checked in with my contacts at DOI and thought I would pass
            along some information.  Like many museums, the DOI wants to
            better understand their collections -- mostly basic
            information on what they are and where they are for their
            own accountability purposes.  But it should be noted first
            and foremost that this is
            <i>not</i> a proposed regulation.  Rather, it is DOI asking
            permission from the federal Office of Management and Budget
            (OMB)—required by the federal Paperwork Reduction Act—to ask
            museums for information about the federally owned
            collections they house.  (So for example, without this
            clearance, the Department of the Interior would not be able
            to ask more than nine museums a year for the catalog records
            about their own collections.)  They are hoping for
            cooperation from museums for the benefit of the collections
            that are owned by the feds in stewardship for the American
            public. They are also hoping to build better partnerships
            with museums through knowing more about the DOI collections
            those museums curate. However, if the museums are unable to
            provide the information or only gross estimates, then as I
            understand it, there will not be consequences - DOI will
            have tried and that will be that.  My intention is to gather
            some additional information and post it in the March edition
            of Aviso, but I hope that is helpful information for now. 
            Gail Ravnitzky Silberglied, Vice President for Government
            Relations and Advocacy, American Alliance of Museums (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gsilberglied@aam-us.org">gsilberglied@aam-us.org</a>)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                Ravnitzky Silberglied<o:p></o:p></span></b></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,sans-serif;color:black">Vice
              President of Government Relations and Advocacy<br>
              Direct: 202.218.7705  |  Cell: 202.580.5180  |  Fax:
              202.289.6578<br>
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                Jackie Hoff [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jhoff@smm.org">mailto:jhoff@smm.org</a>]
                <br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, February 20, 2015 9:18 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> Jane MacKnight<br>
                <b>Cc:</b> Gail Ravnitzky Silberglied; Staci Dennison<br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: Proposed Dept of Interior
                regulations pertaining to museum collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Jane... Someone this
                morning finally mentioned a process that hopefully will
                help us all to better understand what might be in our
                near future as it pertains to collecting held in
                museums...<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">I forgot who mentioned it (there has
                been numerous postings on this topic) but when this
                issues comes up in Europe folks gather the questions and
                then send them on to the agency in question as one big
                document for clarification...<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Hope this helps... It sure raised
                blood pressure for many peoples postings!!!!<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Would love to hear what AAM's
                thoughts are....<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Happy Friday!<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Jackie<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Jackie Hoff<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Director of Collection Services<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Science Museum of Minnesota<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">120 West Kellogg Blvd.<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">St. Paul, MN 55102<o:p></o:p></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jhoff@smm.org">jhoff@smm.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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