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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">"so anyone who maintains a database
like this should be able to add DOI numbers just as easily as we
did."<br>
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Prospectively, right?<br>
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Ellen<br>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">Ellen Paul
Executive Director
The Ornithological Council
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On 2/25/15 2:06 PM, Doug Yanega wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">However, the ICR raises other
issues of concern. If your institution has already accessioned
the materials, then how can you submit anything that indicates
the item was accessioned into a DOI collection? Will you need
to de-accession first?<br>
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If you review the full proposed ICR (top document here: <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.reginfo.gov_public_do_PRAViewDocument-3Fref-5Fnbr-3D201412-2D1084-2D001&d=AwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=9KrnUnldcK3ZfHPvPpmPdGu2cGKPd7_h4xpOOunblX4&s=yHSYTaSWJPbmjIxmt4fC0eHMSc9k66rUrPAPEkA9qlg&e=">http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/PRAViewDocument?ref_nbr=201412-1084-001</a>),
you will see that is clear that they are talking about
accession into a DOI collection, which is consistent with the
claim of DOI ownership. It would be inconsistent with that
claim of ownership by someone other than your institution to
accession an item into your own collection. You would need a
DOI accession number and a DOI accession record for each item.
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FYI: we recently worked with the staff at Joshua Tree National
Park on a series of "Bioblitzes" during which we collected over
1000 insect specimens, almost none of which were identifiable
beyond family level during the event(s). There were numerous
exchanges between us, where they requested the standard
boilerplate kinds of information, and talked about labeling and
accession numbers and such, before I was able to explain how those
regulations don't work for unidentified specimens of insects,
whose labels are 7 x 15 mm. They eventually agreed to ignore that
the specimens are not identified, and the compromise we worked out
regarding labeling and accessioning is this: as a matter of
routine, we put a globally unique ID number on every specimen as
we label it (e.g., "UCRC ENT 314695"), and all of these records
are in our database. For all of the specimens that come from the
JTNP events, they insisted on giving us unique DOI numbers
*anyway*, rather than using our GUIDs; these DOI accession numbers
are linked ONLY in the database, and there are no printed labels
added to these specimens. As specimens from among this material
are IDed, we can report back as to which ones they are,
cross-referencing the DOI numbers when doing so, in a nice tidy
spreadsheet output (e.g., UCRC ENT 314695 is also JOTR 33261, now
IDed as <i>Diadasia rinconis</i> in the spreadsheet). This allows
them to get the information they want, using their accession
numbers, without interfering with our curatorial practices. Having
multiple "unique" numbers on a specimen is certainly difficult if
there are physical labels involved, and thousands of specimens,
but not so hard when in a database, so anyone who maintains a
database like this should be able to add DOI numbers just as
easily as we did.<br>
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Peace,<br>
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Doug Yanega Dept. of Entomology Entomology Research Museum
Univ. of California, Riverside, CA 92521-0314 skype: dyanega
phone: (951) 827-4315 (disclaimer: opinions are mine, not UCR's)
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