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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">We use HDPE wide mouth screw lid
containers; these are UN approved, airtight and made from food
grade material (which should exclude at least too much softeners
leaking into the fluid). We also use these drums in the field
& for returning of formalin fixed fishes in the checked
luggage; never had any problems, even under harsh field conditions
(I personally use the same 3 drums I bought back at the end of the
1990ies). Especially the smaller drums easily fit into a suitcase
or aluminium case. Lids have a massive gasket inside.<br>
<br>
The Manufacturer is CurTec, Netherlands:<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.curtec.com_en_products_drums_wide-2Dneck-2Ddrums&d=AwMD-g&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=1JaDEImzK_7UHpEbZUgSETxp_zZxi0sbRq5UBD9Jw28&s=UwsQgq4p6tVZ-Lk6v7tKmj_g9cfEGRwV8aPPuYgsuKc&e=">http://www.curtec.com/en/products/drums/wide-neck-drums</a><br>
<br>
They do have a USA branch, CurTec USA Inc., but apparently offer
no separate website. Containers are available from US based
resellers, I guess, might be worth to check outdoor equipment
stores as well (these drums a used a lot for kayaking, as they are
watertight, too).<br>
<br>
Several European Collections (Berlin, Stuttgart, Cardiff, Paris,
Munich) are using those containers in the fluid collections for
considerable time now, without any issues or problems. Only
disadvantage: they are not clear, which is a handicap for
monitoring.<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
Dirk <br>
<br>
<br>
Am 12.03.2015 um 00:33 schrieb Curtis J Schmidt:<br>
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<div>Our herpetology division uses 5 gallon plastic buckets with
gamma seal lids. Do a simple google search for "gamma seal
lids" and you will see numerous distributors for such. They
work great!</div>
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<div>Curtis<br>
<br>
______________________________<br>
<br>
Curtis J. Schmidt<br>
Zoological Collections Manager<br>
Sternberg Museum of Natural History<br>
Fort Hays State University <br>
3000 Sternberg Drive<br>
Hays, KS 67601<br>
(785) 628-5504 (collections)<br>
(785) 650-2447 (cell)<br>
______________________________</div>
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style="padding-right:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left:solid
black 2px;">To: "'Bentley, Andrew Charles'"
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:abentley@ku.edu"><abentley@ku.edu></a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu"><nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu></a><br>
From: "Laura Abraczinskas" <abraczi1@msu.edu><br>
Sent by: nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu<br>
Date: 03/11/2015 05:23PM<br>
Subject: Re: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about polycarbonate pails
and glass pickle jars for fluid-preserved specimens<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Thank you
very much Andy.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">I’ll try to
contact the/a person about the “large size lids”.<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>A search on
the <span class="SpellE">O.Berk</span> website
shows that their largest plastic closure with screw
threads is 120mm size.<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>(I believe <span class="SpellE">Kols</span>
<span style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>is now part
of <span class="SpellE">O.Berk</span>). <span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">And, it has
been pointed out that the Anchor<span
style="mso-spacerun:yes"> </span>Hocking glass
pickle barrel jar (2.5<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>gallon size) has a lid that does not screw
down and does not seal (even though the lid has
threads)!<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Best,<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Laura<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d">Laura
Abraczinskas, Collections Manager<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d">Vertebrate
Collections<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d">Michigan
State University Museum<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d">409 West
Circle Drive, Room 103<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d">East
Lansing, Michigan<span style="mso-spacerun:yes">
</span>48824<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Times
New Roman', serif;"><font color="#1f497d">517/355-1290
Office Phone<o:p></o:p></font></span></p>
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New Roman"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New Roman""> Bentley, Andrew Charles
[mailto:abentley@ku.edu] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:29 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Laura Abraczinskas;
nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about
polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for
fluid-preserved specimens<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Laura<o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Our
herpetology division has been using the
polycarbonate pails for temporary storage of
incoming material from the field. They are great in
that they are clear and as such contents are visible
easily (not sure what effect light has on specimens
due to this) BUT they do not seal well at all - no
gasket or positive seal of any kind. They leak if
tipped. Not sure if a gasket could be inserted into
the lid to create such a seal – maybe a modified
tank gasket from Delta or Steel Fixtures? <o:p></o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d"><o:p> </o:p></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">As for lids
for oversized jars, you may want to check Kols
Containers who have, in the past, indicated that
these are still available. Try contacting Judy
Bounds at (401) 646-2300 or <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jbounds@kolscontainers.com">jbounds@kolscontainers.com</a>.
We too have some of those larger glass crocks that
we guard with our life as they are not available
anywhere </font><span style="font-family:
Wingdings;"><font color="#1f497d">J</font></span><font
color="#1f497d"><o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Hope that
helps<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="#1f497d">Andy<o:p></o:p></font></p>
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Andy Bentley<br>
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University of Kansas<br>
Biodiversity Institute<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
Lawrence, KS, 66045-7561<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-outline-level:1"><b>From:</b>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Laura Abraczinskas<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:18 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] Inquiry about
polycarbonate pails and glass pickle jars for
fluid-preserved specimens<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">We need to replace some of our
white plastic/HDPE buckets (2 to 5 gallon size) that
hold fluid-preserved vertebrate specimens. We also
have some large glass pickle jars from the 1960s
(approx 3 gallon size with neck handles). These have
metal lids that need replacing. The old lids are
larger than 120mm size. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I am wondering if anyone has
experienced problems with or has further advice about
polycarbonate plastic pails and lids that were
recommended several years ago? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.spnhc.org_media_assets_SPNHC-5FNewsletter-5F2004-5FV18-5FN1.pdf&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=khLlX2t10BThoKk45QKbZ5MyyXYa-G4OnjNEpK8Zxf0&s=b_pMTTR12FsAZ5H7JJKQg4zAfM2RP3TRErRTtjGOsyM&e=">http://www.spnhc.org/media/assets/SPNHC_Newsletter_2004_V18_N1.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I see that Anchor Hocking makes a
glass pickle barrel jar (2.5 gallon size) but the lid
is aluminum.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">See for example<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.amazon.com_Anchor-2DHocking-2D85679-2D2-2DGallon-2DBrushed-2DAluminum_dp_B000M9NMJA&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=khLlX2t10BThoKk45QKbZ5MyyXYa-G4OnjNEpK8Zxf0&s=jqlpD1pba4O1XynjeP7hN0UWG7V1bAdtRlXeNDVBP6Q&e=">http://www.amazon.com/Anchor-Hocking-85679-2-Gallon-Brushed-Aluminum/dp/B000M9NMJA</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">(Also available from other sources
at lower cost). <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone know of sources for
replacement plastic lids for large glass containers
such as these? <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thank you very much,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Laura<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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