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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi all,<br>
<br>
two thoughts on this:<br>
<br>
like Andy, I would also rather use internal labels for alcohol
collections instead of external ones; adding to Gretchen's
cautioning, consider that the adhesives do age and that the
stability of the adhesives might also be influenced (in case of
plastic containers) from the plastics itself. At some point they
will fail, which might entail a lot of work keep the data with
specimen lots.<br>
<br>
"Labelling", as well as "printing", is always the combination of
printing medium and imprinting method. Even though you buy the
same brand, the composition might change (especially that of
labels, even if they are of archival quality). So if you want to
introduce new handy labels, it might be worth to test if the new
labels work with your imprinting method.<br>
<br>
Cheap & reliable alternative for internal labels:<br>
Old HP 500&600 DeskJet printers and original HP cartridge hp
45 black in combination with high quality transparent paper as
internal labels. Works not only in alcohol, but also in water
based solutions (e.g. during formalin fixation and are fairly
stable during alcohol ladder specimen transfer)<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
Dirk<br>
<br>
<br>
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Am 26.03.2015 um 22:06 schrieb Anderson, Gretchen:<br>
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that are supposed to be “archival”. There are other pens
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Opitz, Cindy<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 26, 2015 4:57 PM<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">
nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bentley, Andrew Charles<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 26, 2015 3:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Callomon,Paul; NH-COLL listserv (<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a>)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Silly question
but why are you labelling jars and lids instead of placing
labels within the jar using the thermal transfer printing
system available from Alpha Systems being used by a large
number of extant alcoholic collections? The labels are
unaffected by alcohol or formalin and do not yellow, brittle
or fade over time and also do not leach anything into the
fluid. We have been using them for 10+ years and have been
very happy.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Andy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Folks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are starting work on rehousing our
entire alcohol-preserved mollusk collection, comprising about
50,000 bottles. For many years we have used medical tape to
label jars and lids, writing on it with sharpies. This works
pretty well, as the tape stays stuck to glass or plastic for
over 40 years. However, for the next round of rehousing I’d
prefer to use pre-cut labels for the sake of neatness and
speed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone know of a suitable label? It
can be cloth or paper, and should ideally be available in
various sizes and shapes. I’m especially keen on finding a
good circular label for the caps of regular 4- and 6-dram
screw-top vials.
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