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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Christian,<br>
<br>
perfect summary!<br>
<br>
The key question - as you said - is "valuable collection" goods.
(without wanting to re-fuel the heated debating on putting a price
on collections).<br>
<br>
The other point - which will be more crucial for us & as
detailed in my other email - is import checks. I addressed this to
Mike Reich & his working group. We already discussed this
informally within our administration, as Mike also belongs to
"our" decentralised collections united under the umbrella of the
Bavarian Natural History Collections (SNSB), he is a colleague of
mine (even though I haven't met him in person yet)<br>
<br>
All the best<br>
Dirk<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 11.11.2015 um 10:14 schrieb Christian Baars:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
Genevieve,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thank
you for sharing this, although I believe there has been a
fair amount of misinformation about this piece of German
legislation. There was a discussion on the British
Geological Curators Group list <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:GEO-CURATORS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK">
GEO-CURATORS@JISCMAIL.AC.UK</a>, and I am aware of Mike
Reich et al.’s preprint. I took the opportunity last night
to read up on the issue and responded to the GCG list, which
am copying below.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">While,
as a native German speaker, I am able to read the associated
debates, being based in the UK I am not involved with the
discussion directly, but I hope my little analysis will help
clarify the issue a little. I cannot see, from the letter or
the spirit of the legislation, how natural science
collections will be impacted on negatively. The main concern
appears to arise from the fact that, yet again, natural
science collections were overlooked and museum folk not
consulted during the preparation of this legislation, and
may inadvertently be caught up in increased beaurocracy. But
the aim of the legislation is, as outlined below, the
prevention of looting (particularly in the Middle East) and
the illicit trade in cultural objects into Germany, as well
as the prevention of loss of important cultural property
from Germany.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">This
was my reply to the GCG discussion:
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Perhaps
I might offer some linguistic assistance to contribute to
the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">debate
about this new legislation, and hopefully will be able to
calm the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">waters
a little. I have just taken some time to delve into the
available<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">literature,
which, I must say, is quite extensive (in newspapers,
magazines<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">and
on TV).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Firstly,
the new law was passed by the German government last week,
so the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">petition
is now unnecessary.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Secondly,
a very public debate in Germany during the summer affected
some<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">alterations
to two early, unofficial versions which had been leaked in<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">July.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A
quick summary: the purpose of this legislation is not to
limit private<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">collecting,
far from it. The same law has existed since 1955 and
protects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">German
cultural objects of particular importance. The "new" law is
merely<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">an
update of this existing legislation. This may be all you
need to know,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">but
if you care to read on I'll outline some details below.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
reason for the update is two-fold:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A)
The currently enormous problem of looting and appearance of
objects on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">the
international market of objects from the Middle East (and
other areas),<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">which
funds terror organisations and results in a loss of cultural
objects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">from
the countries affected by looting - the update will make it
more<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">difficult
to import illegally acquired objects into Germany. Hence an<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">enhanced
requirement for proof of provenance and ownership of objects<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">imported
into Germany. This is regarded as one contribution by the
German<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">government
to the international protection of cultural property. There
were<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">already
provisions for this under the old law which have now been
enhanced.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">B)
New to the law is that it will, in future, be more difficult
to export<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">cultural
property from Germany into European countries. It was
previously<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">already
difficult to export into non-European countries, but the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">regulations
are now stricter. As a general rule, the export of objects
on<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">the
"national register of objects of national importance", which
are less<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">than
70 years old and more valuable (in monetary terms) than
300.000 Euros,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">will
require the approval of the culture minister.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
law covers primarily art and archaeological objects (the
financial<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">value
limits of different object classes differ somewhat, so the
above is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">just
a general rule). My own cynical view is that, once again,
culture is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">equated
with paintings and sculptures. However, going into the text
of the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.bundesregierung.de_Webs_Breg_DE_Bundesregierung_BeauftragtefuerKulturundMedien_kultur_kulturgutschutz_-5Fnode.html&d=AwMFAw&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=p1phI-xxHE7G7aLFEoVPeyovfrUColYcIsodKkKM46U&s=SwzoIuIBfuqXSzHpX9mh91WJAo4LUy0x7a2kat8xyqk&e="><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.bundesregierung.de/Webs/Breg/DE/Bundesregierung/BeauftragtefuerKulturundMedien/kultur/kulturgutschutz/_node.html">http://www.bundesregierung.de/Webs/Breg/DE/Bundesregierung/BeauftragtefuerKulturundMedien/kultur/kulturgutschutz/_node.html</a></a>,
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">on
page 81 there is a an explanatory note to paragraph 7/2
which may be of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">relevance
to natural science museums: some objects are regarded in the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">context
of an entire collection, particularly books, natural science<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">collections
and archives, when being valued. In the example given, this<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">means
that a collection of beetles may be regarded as a single
object, even<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">if
an individual specimen would not be regarded worthy of
inclusion in the<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">national
register. However, this assumes that someone decided a
particular<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">collection
should be included in the national register, which involves
a<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">procedure
and assessment by a commission (well, we are talking Germany<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">here...).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
people who have been most vociferously opposing it are art
collectors<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">who
are concerned about a drop in value of their collections;
the logic is<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">that
if the market for the paintings is now restricted to
Germany, rather<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">than
all of Europe, in essence a limited market, there is less
likelihood<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">of
fetching a price as high as at auctions in London.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In
my interpretation of the law (as far as I have read it) and
the debate<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">around
its implementation, there is nothing to suggest that private<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">collections
will be illegal, or that trade shows will be made
impossible.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">On
the contrary, it appears a very sensible and timely update
of a piece of<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">legislation
that had already been around for 60 years.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I
hope the above helps.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Best
wishes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Christian<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"
lang="EN-US"> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Tocci (Lewis-Gentry), Genevieve<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 10 November 2015 20:22<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] FW: REPOST: New law regarding
collecting and collections in Germany<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"
lang="EN-US">A colleague sent me this and I don’t think I’ve
seen it come across this list. If it has, my apologies.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"
lang="EN-US">Genevieve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#7F7F7F"
lang="EN-US">=================================================<br>
Genevieve E. Tocci (née Lewis-Gentry)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif;color:#7F7F7F"
lang="EN-US">Curatorial Assistant<br>
Harvard University Herbaria<br>
22 Divinity Ave., Cambridge, MA 02138 U.S.A.<br>
Phone: 617-495-2365 Fax: 617-495-9484<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:glewis-g@oeb.harvard.edu">glewis-g@oeb.harvard.edu</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Georgia",serif"
lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> Forum for marine, freshwater and
terrestrial algae. [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ALGAE-L@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE">ALGAE-L@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE</a>] on
behalf of Guiry, Michael
[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:michael.guiry@NUIGALWAY.IE">michael.guiry@NUIGALWAY.IE</a>]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 09, 2015 4:11 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:ALGAE-L@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE">ALGAE-L@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> REPOST: New law regarding collecting
and collections in Germany</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">REPOST: This matter
could have Europe-wide implications if the EU were
to move in the same direction, as has happened
previously.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">Dear colleagues,</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">There has been a quite strange
movement in Germany and a new law which will
strongly impact private and institutional
collecting/collections. While I do see the
problem with private collecting, specifically
when it concerns archaeological artefacts the
present formulation of the new law seems to
apply for palaeontological, geological and
even (!) biological objects too as our
colleague from the Stuttgart Museum and the
Munich University found out. </span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#FF4013"
lang="EN-US">Apparently the new law will
impose numerous additional obligations (loans
of scientific material will be needed to be
approved of by the ministry; retrospective
proof of acquisition; destructive sampling
will apparently be prohibited; etc.).</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"
lang="EN-US"> [My emphasis, Mike Guiry]</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">This would seriously impact both
biodiversity and palaeontological research.
Our German colleagues try to fight the new law
and appeal for a revised formulation of the
term “national cultural heritage”.</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"> </span><span style="color:black"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">More information can be found
here (in German unfortunately):</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.researchgate.net_publication_283346678-5FDie-5FKulturgutschutz-2DNovelle-5F-5FBehinderung-5Ffr-5Fdie-5Fwissenschaftliche-5FPalontologie-5Fund-5Fpalontologische-5FSammlungen-5F-5FThe-5Fnew-5Fdraft-5Fact-5Fto-5Fprotect-5Fcultural-5Fproperty-5F-5FObstruction-5Fof-5Fscientific-5Fpalaeontology-5Fand-5Fpalaeontological-5Fcollections&d=CwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=DIsuBb5t5bVW9F_2zlAmGeRoCQx2KceZP-3k9VQb_6s&m=C32OFdAw8Aka8fUQ8IorOjOR7GhRCPMl1t68AgkxOxI&s=EiD6jIAyG7Pm_UCNzElafMTyLVPGEG1SLZ4LRjrM0qg&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">http://www.researchgate.net/publication/283346678_Die_Kulturgutschutz-Novelle__Behinderung_fr_die_wissenschaftliche_Palontologie_und_palontologische_Sammlungen__The_new_draft_act_to_protect_cultural_property__Obstruction_of_scientific_palaeontology_and_palaeontological_collections</span></a></span><span
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">There is also petition against
this law:</span><span style="color:black"
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.openpetition.de_petition_online_fuer-2Dden-2Derhalt-2Ddes-2Dprivaten-2Dsammelns&d=CwMGaQ&c=WO-RGvefibhHBZq3fL85hQ&r=DIsuBb5t5bVW9F_2zlAmGeRoCQx2KceZP-3k9VQb_6s&m=C32OFdAw8Aka8fUQ8IorOjOR7GhRCPMl1t68AgkxOxI&s=-2I-7NvuWh5TjmhxZ1A6Sa-dOZiaXax4jbfhhh_5ftU&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/fuer-den-erhalt-des-privaten-sammelns">https://www.openpetition.de/petition/online/fuer-den-erhalt-des-privaten-sammelns</a></span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="EN-US">All the best</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">Andreas</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="DE"><br>
</span><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Narrow",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="DE">Dr. Andreas Kroh</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Narrow",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"
lang="DE"><br>
Annalen des Naturhistorischen Museums in Wien,
Serie A, Editor-in-Chief</span><span
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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EU<b><br>
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