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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">There is a massive online list of biographical information on shell collectors – see<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<i><a href="mailto:callomon@ansp.org" target="_blank">callomon@ansp.org</a> Tel 215-405-5096 - Fax 215-299-1170</i></span><span style="font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu [mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eli Wyman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2015 4:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Shippee, Jodi<br>
<b>Cc:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] E.R Wagner: Insect collector<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">While it would certainly be handy to have a database with a comprehensive list of collectors across taxa, sortable by geographic region and be able to delimit it by years they were known to be active, I have
never heard of such a thing. As you pointed out, for those who have never been published it would be especially difficult to track them down in the first place. Knowing anything of their life histories will be nearly impossible in any case, but increasingly
so as the traditional taxonomist (aka person buried in the collection drawers and reprints) becomes rarer and rarer. So many people (myself included) often collect well outside of their taxa of greatest interest, lending our names to specimens which it would
be hard to make an obvious connection with. Look at old E.R. Wagner, who was an archaeologist. I doubt I would have felt as confident as I did in saying it was him if his wiki page didn't explicitly say he was also passionate about entomology.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 3:38 PM, Shippee, Jodi <<a href="mailto:Jodi.Shippee@vermont.gov" target="_blank">Jodi.Shippee@vermont.gov</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Whenever a question like this comes up I wonder, isn’t there a shared database of collector biographical
data? Even in Wikipedia (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Category-3ANatural-5Fhistory-5Fcollectors&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=fbKSsuF19BrG00x8WyfF1tUNJE9L6NWix71pX3MJnaU&s=HItwwB2g12b6PLoTHCQttcsAZc96-6y5Sy1WwJ24BDo&e=" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Natural_history_collectors</a>
or <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__en.wikipedia.org_wiki_Category-3AZoological-5Fcollectors&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=fbKSsuF19BrG00x8WyfF1tUNJE9L6NWix71pX3MJnaU&s=VWTvv67XvcYck9Km4qvG8-bZY8pTyQMLhv_Jgj4QDI4&e=" target="_blank">
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Zoological_collectors</a>)? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">By the way, Emilio Roger Wagner is in VIAF (<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__viaf.org_viaf_23557943_-23skos-3AConcept&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=fbKSsuF19BrG00x8WyfF1tUNJE9L6NWix71pX3MJnaU&s=xJTV23hKsMfhitQ_5783uq5vUE6Gf2O--rrkv1pjf8c&e=" target="_blank">http://viaf.org/viaf/23557943/#skos:Concept</a>)
(via Library of Congress Authority file <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__id.loc.gov_authorities_names_n84239804.html&d=AwMGaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=fbKSsuF19BrG00x8WyfF1tUNJE9L6NWix71pX3MJnaU&s=aT5B0FW6EbfM95bBfIeRETGmjH8jeb_ldnGwG1n9koc&e=" target="_blank">
http://id.loc.gov/authorities/names/n84239804.html</a>, and others) but I wouldn’t guess it’s a reliable source of this information unless the person has either published or been the subject of a publication, which would leave many collectors out.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jodi Shippee</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Eli Wyman<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 14, 2015 2:25 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Christopher Kemp<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu" target="_blank">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] E.R Wagner: Insect collector</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"> E.R. Wagner is almost certainly Emilio Roger Wagner, who was an Argentinian archaeologist, who also had a passion for entomology. He was active in that period and died in 1949. Here
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<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__es.wikipedia.org_wiki_Emilio-5Fy-5FDuncan-5FWagner&d=AwMFaQ&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=4VUJyfc-BwqeQic36EN6cQRo8n_uBdsthvYkYEnfGb4&s=OB2oM_i6_mwuWi6WWdRGqKmDyZu-E_C8WL2ug_cbCvw&e=" target="_blank">https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emilio_y_Duncan_Wagner</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Christopher Kemp <<a href="mailto:cjkemp@gmail.com" target="_blank">cjkemp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm looking at a paper about a beautiful species of large fly just described:
<i>Gauromydas papavero</i>. A great species with a long shelf life. It was first collected in Argentina in 1930-something by a collector called E.R. Wagner. I've searched for him and he's collected an awful lot of stuff, 1903, 1911, active for decades in South
America. But I don't have any biographical information at all. Don't know what E or R stand for, or where he was from, or when he died. Anything, folks?<o:p></o:p></p>
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