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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Agreed, but giving up is not an option. We need to keep hammering away at the edges and hope that the message gets across at some point. Do not give in to the
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 25, 2016 12:35 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Bentley, Andrew Charles <abentley@ku.edu>; Barry OConnor <bmoc@umich.edu><br>
<b>Cc:</b> nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Another excellent article on the value of collections<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I wish you were right but this has little to do with being uninformed (though it is true, they are uninformed). This is purely an irrational, emotional reaction and they do not wish to be informed.
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<p class="MsoNormal">Ellen Paul<o:p></o:p></p>
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On 1/25/16 1:32 PM, Bentley, Andrew Charles wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I think the opposite is true. We should be working on them even more and publishing like crazy while educating the uninformed as to why we do what we do and
the benefits to society as a whole while also educating the scientists as to how to convey their message. There was some very unfortunate language used in that piece that caused the outcry that it did. If it had been worded differently I doubt the same would
be true and maybe those few naysayers would be much the wiser now.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif">Dyche Hall<br>
1345 Jayhawk Boulevard<br>
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Tel: (785) 864-3863<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a> [<a href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Barry OConnor<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, January 25, 2016 12:23 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ellen Paul <a href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net"><ellen.paul@verizon.net></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l@mailman.yale.edu</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Nhcoll-l] Another excellent article on the value of collections</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I suppose there are two ways to deal with pretty birds: 1. don't work with them; 2: publish in very obscure journals and don't publicize the work. Prevailing wisdom says if you find a new bird, don't kill it. - Barry<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Ellen Paul <<a href="mailto:ellen.paul@verizon.net" target="_blank">ellen.paul@verizon.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">This is a great article. Unfortunately, there is an even bigger problem when it comes to vertebrates and especially cute or pretty vertebrates. The reaction to the collection of a single bird by Chris Filardi
was appalling to say the least. You can run articles like this until the end of time and people will still get hysterical over the collection of cute/pretty vertebrates.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">This reporter has it spot on.<o:p></o:p></p>
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