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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">... seems that the radical interceptors
      (white powder) that is used to stop the oxidisation (together with
      the impressive shock wave) would contaminate a considerable area,
      too (as far as I know these agents are special waste)?<br>
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      Am 02.03.2016 um 18:54 schrieb Hawks, Catharine:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Hi Steve<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Not sure that
            this would work as well for a gas/vapor fire, which is what
            is at issue in a fluid collection – also, would clearly do
            mechanical damage.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">That kind of
            mechanical damage is what made gaseous fire suppression
            unpopular for museums, they work with a similar explosive
            impact – well-maintained sprinklers do much less damage.
            <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">No one should
            be using a fire extinguisher in a room full of flammable
            liquids, they should immediately vacate the space and go
            pull a fire alarm.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Cathy<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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              <b>From:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>
              [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu">mailto:nhcoll-l-bounces@mailman.yale.edu</a>]
              <b>On Behalf Of </b>Steve Sullivan<br>
              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, March 02, 2016 12:34 PM<br>
              <b>To:</b> 'NH-COLL listserv'
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:NHCOLL-L@mailman.yale.edu">&lt;NHCOLL-L@mailman.yale.edu&gt;</a><br>
              <b>Subject:</b> [Nhcoll-l] fire control device<o:p></o:p></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone have experience or opinions
          about the Elide Fire Ball?  There are a variety of videos
          online that make it look like a potentially useful supplement
          in places like wet collections.  While it looks like it might
          have some objectionable residue, several videos show it
          extinguishing fires quickly and, at the end of the video,
          shows that the explosion doesn’t damage anything, including
          people.  In conditions where the specimens are protected from
          the dust, it seems this could be a useful product.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Here’s one example on Youtube, Universal
          Elide Fire Ball:<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.youtube.com_watch-3Fv-3Dc6kfvq-2DERr0-26ebc-3DANyPxKpqSHputLe0VJSqu4-5F1BEADLRrTb5awEI2wOl23SqpHhfc43kGVmLxs0beMGcmuAFJKyb3Too-5FP7xGyOfpVafXkIEvexA&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=91ZI7xM9df9AT9hesHEMcbqCz4SdwplM85MtPbeiOf0&s=DevmaGCvJ2d22Tetc4SmfI-FMTK8_2fDTi1N1EU-SRc&e=">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6kfvq-ERr0&amp;ebc=ANyPxKpqSHputLe0VJSqu4_1BEADLRrTb5awEI2wOl23SqpHhfc43kGVmLxs0beMGcmuAFJKyb3Too_P7xGyOfpVafXkIEvexA</a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">And one of the websites:  <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.elide-2Dfire.com_en_&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=91ZI7xM9df9AT9hesHEMcbqCz4SdwplM85MtPbeiOf0&s=c5vGb6hF_ySSkdxGyfDGhe7w4E92429GisuqS_YWBcs&e="><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.elide-fire.com/en/">http://www.elide-fire.com/en/</a></a><o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">--Steve<o:p></o:p></p>
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          Steven M. Sullivan  |  Senior Curator of Urban Ecology<o:p></o:p></p>
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          The Chicago Academy of Sciences and its Peggy Notebaert Nature
          Museum<span style="font-size:8.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          Museum|2430 North Cannon Drive|Chicago Illinois 60614|<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.naturemuseum.org_&d=AwMFAg&c=-dg2m7zWuuDZ0MUcV7Sdqw&r=CLFZJ3fvGSmDp7xK1dNZfh6uGV_h-8NVlo3fXNoRNzI&m=91ZI7xM9df9AT9hesHEMcbqCz4SdwplM85MtPbeiOf0&s=W5lK63PqhWasMLep0fufBvOeg5SSlEDAaGulC2PjSKo&e=">naturemuseum.org</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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