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<br><div><div>On 19 Mar 2016, at 09:43, Dirk Neumann <<a href="mailto:dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de">dirk.neumann@zsm.mwn.de</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">... agree with Paul; especially against aggressive denaturants plastic<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>bags might turn out to fail. We have been using tea bags (e.g. to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>protect remove gill arches of larger fishes) - the larger ones which,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>you can buy at a supermarket to fill in open (not pre-bagged) tea.<br><br>Disadvantage: you have to tear the bag if you want to remove contained<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>specimens / parts again; not a good solution if contained<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>samples/specimens are highly frequented<br>Advantage: bolsters included specimen<br><br>Cotton plugs: to avoid this, the colleagues in Berlin changed to very<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>fine, high-quality Japan paper, if I am not completely wrong.<br><br>All the best<br>Dirk<br><br><br>Am 18.03.2016 um 19:46 schrieb Callomon,Paul:<br><blockquote type="cite">My reservation about trying the bags-in-jars method would be that we don't know what long-term effects the plastic might have on the fluid, or vice-versa.<br>Some while back one of my predecessors submerged hundreds of glass vials with phenolic resin screw caps in jars of ethanol. 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